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22nd September 2013, 14:25
Sitting on a major fault line, Oregon is "like an eight-and-a-half-month pregnancy, due any time now" for a major earthquake, a geologist with the Oregon Office of Emergency Management told an overflow crowd Friday in Medford.

"We're in the zone, and we'd darn well better get ourselves ready for it," said Althea Rizzo, geology hazard coordinator for OEM. "A lot of you may have moved here from California to escape them, but the fact is, Oregon is earthquake country."

About half the hands went up when Rizzo asked how many had been through a California earthquake.


Rizzo said there's a 37 percent chance the Big One will happen in the next 50 years.

A major earthquake would cripple transportation on Interstate 5 as bridges and overpasses collapse from two to four minutes of ground shaking, possible very severe, with stressful aftershocks for weeks.

"It's going to shake here," she said. "Single-family homes will bounce off their foundations. Landslides will cause transportation between I-5 and (Highway) 101 on the coast to be cut off for three to five years."

A big quake will cause liquefaction, in which the ground, if saturated with water, will "turn to pudding," causing hardware, such as sewer systems, septic lines and gas tanks, to rise up out of the earth.

Lines from Washington state gasoline refineries cross 15 rivers, leaving them vulnerable to quake tremors, she says. Most of these were built in the mid-20th century, with no thought to making them quake-resistant, she says, adding that they would be offline for at least six months.

Electrical power would be down from one to three months until transformers and the electrical grid get going again, she says.

A region's markets have food enough for only three days, so families should store at least three weeks of nonperishable food — tuna, beans, freeze-dried items — and other vital commodities, such as toilet paper.

Rizzo advocates planning on the household, regional and statewide levels before the inevitable quake emanates from the "big, bad, ugly" Cascadia Subduction Zone, which runs 600 miles from about Eureka, Calif., to the north end of Vancouver Island.

The North American tectonic plate, on which the Rogue Valley rests, is moving southwesterly a couple of inches a year, overriding oceanic plates and building up tension. When the tension is released, she said, it causes far-reaching land quakes and lifts an enormous amount of sea water, which will slam the Oregon Coast with tsunamis.

Partial quakes happen on an average of every 240 years. The last one was in 1700, so it's been 213 years. Quakes of the entire length of the zone come every 500 to 600 years and governments should expect those to be 9.0 or more on the Richter scale — tremendously devastating.

They cannot be predicted, Rizzo said.

Another blow to Oregon would come if vital utilities and transportation were cut off for so long that major businesses left the state and took jobs and money with them.

A dozen years ago, Oregon authorized $2 billion in bonds to bolster infrastructure in schools, community colleges and emergency services, but the recession, she said, took that off-track.

Rizzo urged several hundred local residents to spread the word to family and friends to take first-aid and Community Emergency Response Team training, store supplies and get to know your neighbors and people who have training and tools.

Communities must assess risks to buildings, roads, power, water and sewer lines, she said, adding that people should learn to "drop, cover and hold" and practice getting to safe places in their homes. Wall art should be screwed down, big furniture, water heater and bookcases secured, and heavy items kept close to the floor, not up high where they could fall on people.

"You need to practice this over and over because when it's happening you're not going to be able to think," she said.

The Great Oregon Shake-Out will be held at 10:17 a.m. Oct. 17 to do the "drop, cover and hold on" drill. Details of this and all other quake information can be found at www.oregon.gov/omd/oem.

Source (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130921/NEWS/309210314)

22nd September 2013, 16:04
Thank you for posting this. It's very vital, very underplayed, and very real.
Many of us with an interest in quakes have been worried about Juan de Fuca.
Ever since 2007-2008 I have lived on or near the fault line and something woke me up to the fact that we need to watch it closely.
A few years back, there were severe offshore quakes near Eureka CA, Portland, OR, Vancouver Island.
I wrote to USGS and the Seattle Times hoping journalists and scientists would do their best to prepare the people.

I can't stop wondering what could happen if we DID get a megaquake and it compromised Rainier.
It's an elevated composite cone and it would be a BAD BAD deal.

Hopefully that won't happen. The Cascadia "big one" will be bad enough without Lahars and lateral blasts.

p.s. i can't imagine the states being cut off from each other for 5 years! Holy moly, and that's an expert saying so!

22nd September 2013, 18:14
it's in the meier predictions, a seaquake off the coast of oregon 9.0 lasting for five minutes creating a tidal wave that will kill thousands on the west coast ...

22nd September 2013, 23:23
Hmm, you're right, check this out.


Swiss Man's Prediction of 9.0 NW Earthquake Now Echoed by U.S. Scientists
Government officials in the designated areas urged to immediately create evacuation plans for the predicted resulting tsunami.
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Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) September 22, 2008

Recent findings by scientific experts echo a prediction, from 2005, of a mammoth earthquake that will be centered in the Pacific Northwest. The prediction by Billy Meier, a 71-year old Swiss man with a remarkable, 58-year record of specific, accurate predictions, and the report from 2008 by Oregon State University scientists (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080826124413.htm) agree on the likelihood of an enormous natural disaster occurring. However, Meier's warning also specifically mentioned a gigantic tsunami that would produce unimaginably devastating consequences for residents of the Pacific coast.
On June 25, 2005, over three years before the OSU report was issued, Meier published the following warning, "According to our preview there will be a seaquake of 9 points on the Richter Scale in the region of the North Pacific not far from the American coast, from Portland to the south of California up to Washington in the north. As a result there will be a gigantic fault of several hundred kilometers, when as never before, a seaquake-tsunami will spread in a ring form and produce immense devastation on the main land and on the islands, which will cost many human lives. The seaquake will last for about five minutes, to be followed by additional and less forceful quakes, which will trigger another but less severe tsunami. Some facts about this threatening danger are known to terrestrial scientists, but they are not capable of realizing the really/factually developing catastrophe."
OSU scientists don't foresee a tsunami and have a lower estimate of the magnitude of the quake than Meier. Neither they, nor Meier gave a specific date for the predicted events. Even with advance warning and monitoring of natural disasters like hurricanes and tornadoes, the resulting damage and loss of life can be massive. But since the exact time, location and magnitude of earthquakes and tsunamis is rarely, if ever, precisely predicted, the resulting losses in life and property are often far more catastrophic.
It is incumbent upon all pertinent government agencies and officials in the designated areas to immediately create evacuation plans and to warn the population in the areas most at risk of the possibility of a tsunami, so that they can make their own escape plans for their families and themselves.
Links to Some of Meier's Prophetic Information:
The fall of the U.S. dollar, dangers of attacking Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29wnpEy2DY4
Meier beating NASA by 32 years regarding Mars discoveries:
The Russia-Georgia scenario:
From 1951: Ozone destruction, climate change, weather disasters, mega-quakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, illegal immigration, home computers, etc.:
From 1958: Iraq Wars, AIDS, cell phones, credit cards, moon launches, global terrorism, European Union, bio-chipping, global warming, internet, two planets beyond Pluto, crystal meth epidemic, etc:
From 1975-1987: Jupiter's moons, Saturn's moon, Venus details, destruction of WTC, more U.S. wars, fall of Catholic Church, fall of France to Islam and invasion, fall of England, military movements of Russia, Mad Cow Disease, Chinese attack on India, civil wars and fall of U.S., etc.: http://theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm

23rd September 2013, 00:08
In fact wasn't a book on the 9.0M published this year by a Seattle Times journalist???????????????


lemme find it.

'Full Rip 9.0' review: The next big thing- Warnings of a megaquake
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on June 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM, updated June 15, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Sandi Doughton
Sasquatch Books
$23.95, 288 pages

If ever a book risked being labeled "unsuitable for beach reading," it might well be "Full Rip 9.0: The Next Big Earthquake in the Pacific Northwest." Author Sandi Doughton surveys the science and implications of the mega-earthquake certain to strike along the 750-mile Cascadia Subduction Zone fault that parallels the coastline of Oregon and Washington, and the tsunami it will send into our shores.

The first popular account of earthquake and tsunami risk to the Pacific Northwest published since Japan's Tohoku disaster in March of 2011, Doughton's book traces the 30-year burst of discoveries in the geosciences shaping expert consensus that Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have experienced, and will experience again, temblors as powerful as any on earth.

Ninety years ago, a prominent geologist declared the Puget Sound area "earthquake-proof." No credible scientist would repeat that claim today.

"Piece by piece, scientists have re-created a history fraught with mayhem," Doughton writes. "If there's one thing geologists grasp that most people don't, it's that what happened before will happen again."

An award-winning science writer for The Seattle Times, Doughton keeps a tight focus on the scientists whose work has shaped this new assessment of the Cascadia fault. A central narrative is the story of University of Washington geologist Brian Atwater, whose painstaking study of soil profiles in the bays and estuaries of western Washington revealed sand layers left by recurrent tsunamis and helped to prove that the most recent full-rip earthquake struck our region at around 9 p.m. on Jan. 26, 1700.

Doughton recounts traveling with Atwater to the "ghost forest" of the Copalis River. Rot-resistant dead cedar trees there supplied smoking-gun proof that sections of the Northwest Coast dropped as much as six feet during the 1700 earthquake, consistent with the behavior of other subduction zones around the world.

If Atwater's story deserves to be more widely known, so, too, does the work of Oregon State University professor Chris Goldfinger, whose sampling of ocean sediments has confirmed 19 full-rip Cascadia megaquakes during the last 10,000 years, and revealed another 23 temblors affecting only Oregon and Northern California. Goldfinger's findings suggest that the average interval separating major Cascadia quakes is 250 years. With the current quiet interval at 313 years and counting, Seattle is scarcely the only Northwest ZIP code whose residents have reason to be sleepless.

The outlook for the coast, where vulnerability to ground-shaking and inundation is described as a "mirror image" of Japan's, is grim. Doughton's account of the tsunami vulnerability shared by Cannon Beach, Seaside and Washington's Long Beach Peninsula supplies ample reason for every weekend visitor to seek evacuation routes and be prepared to move -- quickly and on foot -- to the nearest high ground in the event the ground shakes.

Doughton mentions state-sponsored planning efforts to prioritize upgrades to Northwest buildings, roads, bridges and public utilities, but "Full Rip 9.0" does not delve deeply into personal preparedness. The author repeats the conventional wisdom: prepare water and emergency supplies for a 72-hour period. Many emergency planners now urge citizens to provision for at least a week of disruption, possibly more.

"Full Rip 9.0" is a worthy addition to the small shelf of books about the greatest natural hazard facing the Pacific Northwest. Doughton balances the excitement of scientific discovery with the grave risks that recent findings have revealed. Every Oregonian should learn and heed this Cascadia story.

If copies of the book beat the odds and find their way into a beach bag or two this summer, they will assuredly help spread the informed awareness that is the first step toward a more resilient Pacific Northwest.

-- Edward Wolf's recent reviews for The Oregonian include Bill McKibben's "EAARTH" and John Daniel's "Rogue River Journal."

Reading: Doughton reads from "Full Rip 9.0" at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Powell's City of Books, 1005 W. Burnside St.

23rd September 2013, 00:22
I told ST that a wave could come right into the Juan de Fuca straight from SW vancouver island seabed

23rd September 2013, 00:33
Hi Tesla_WTC and the Group. Watch the skies.

I pointed out in another location I believe, that there is a pattern that starts to appear in the clouds when the fault zones are under extreme pressure and "breaking".

There is also an electrical field which can be picked up by sensors, basically under the 20 kilohertz frequency range. These coils can be hooked up the the mike input of a notebook PC and simple freeware software run to monitor. There is a characteristic spike pattern which starts to appear up to 24 hours before an event. I monitored similar type of signals in the 80's over the New Madrid fault. Below is what I was looking at (the New Madrid)


Below is the Juan de Fuca seismicity


23rd September 2013, 01:00
Althea Rizzo tells it like it is and I wonder if she will lose her job because of the potential that businesses and residents might move out of state? I imagine lots of political types will calm the people into not reacting because it could still be 50 years off. Sounds like a terrible fate when it comes.

Given the Federal government's reaction to the Gulf Oil spill, levee breaks in New Orleans and the hurricane problems in NJ, NY, etc., people should know better than to expect Federal government help.

23rd September 2013, 03:29
Thanks for this thread. Much to think about.

It is scary. I live in the Willamette Valley about 50 miles south of Portland. The prospect of a mega earthquake makes a person feel a bit helpless. I could stock enough food for 6 weeks but what if I'm not home when it happens? What if family members are scattered around the city? How 'bout my neighbors who live in apartments made of toothpicks? I should know, I watched them being built.

This is a situation that will require much faith and balance along with basic preparedness.

May we all sleep well tonight.


23rd September 2013, 11:08
See also:

projectavalon.net/Scientists-Say-California-Mega-Quake-Imminent (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24364-Scientists-Say-California-Mega-Quake-Imminent)

projectavalon.net/US-Mega-Quake-Coming-Warn-Russian-Scientists (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16430-US-Mega-Quake-Coming-Warn-Russian-Scientists)

projectavalon.net/Prophets-Planets-and-Physicists-Align-On-California-Quake (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17466-Prophets-Planets-and-Physicists-Align-On-California-Quake-26-March-2011-01-24)

Nick Matkin
23rd September 2013, 14:57
A promising earthquake predictor is the newly discovered phenomenon of increased electron density in the ionosphere above an earthquake zone about an hour before one strikes.
A longer video here. (http://vimeo.com/69901703)

A fascinating accidental discovery if it turns out to be a genuine, repeatable effect.

(It was reported by the BBC so it must be true! :rolleyes:)


Bill Ryan
20th April 2016, 18:18

I'm bumping this thread after an interesting conversation today with a very perceptive and psychic friend in Oregon, who says that her intuition is 'screaming' at her that a major Cascadia Subduction Zone event is 'imminent'.

I asked her what 'imminent' meant, and she said 'some time in the next several months'.

Three days ago (17 April, 2016) Oregon Governor Kate Brown published a formal 'Be prepared, not scared' video, here (recommending that all Oregonians have food and water for two weeks)...


...and, interestingly, a planned major emergency drill has been brought forward from August to early June.

Here's an official (rather dramatic!) image:


The Ring of Fire is really very active at the moment: the latest major earthquake was 7.8, on the Northern Ecuador coast, a few days ago. (That's big.)

To anyone living in Oregon and who might be affected by this: what are you hearing / sensing / intuiting? This is not a scaremongering post... just a request for the pooling and sharing of a bit more information.

20th April 2016, 18:36
Fox News broadcast this news segment in July of 2015. It's not just Oregon, it's anywhere along the Juan de Fuca/North American Plate Subduction Zone.


21st April 2016, 04:54

The Shaking Continues: “There is Great Reason For Concern” Over Recent Earthquakes and Volcanic Eruptions

The Shaking Continues: The Most Dangerous Volcano In Mexico Has Erupted In Spectacular Fashion

More than 25 million people live in the vicinity of Mt. Popocatepetl, including Mexico City’s 18 million residents. At 2:32 local time on Tuesday morning, the most dangerous volcano in Mexico roared to life in spectacular fashion, and this has many experts extremely concerned about what is coming next. Popocatepetl is an Aztec word that means “smoking mountain”, and historians tell us that once upon a time entire Aztec cities were buried in super-heated mud from this volcano. In fact, the super-heated mud flows were so deep that they buried entire Aztec pyramids. A full-blown eruption of Mt. Popocatepetl would be a catastrophe unlike anything that modern Mexico has ever experienced before, and considering what has been happening in Ecuador (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/17/americas/ecuador-deadly-earthquake/), Japan (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/dozens-of-large-earthquakes-strike-as-speculation-mounts-that-japans-southern-island-may-be-splitting) and at Yellowstone (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/yellowstone-eruption-in-2016-shocking-new-video-shows-what-is-really-going-on-at-yellowstone) over the past week, I believe that there is great reason for concern.

The eruption of Mt. Popocatepetl very early this morning took residents of the area very much by surprise. The following is how one Mexican news course reported the news (http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/ash-blankets-puebla-and-closes-airport/)…

The volcano Popocatépetl came to life at 2:32 this morning, sending out a column of ash that fell on much of the city of Puebla and closed the airport.

The National Disaster Prevention Center, Cenapred, said the volcano spewed ash to an altitude of about three kilometers above the crater.

The explosion was accompanied by the emission of incandescent fragments which were reported to be landing up to 1.6 kilometers away, northeast of the volcano, which is commonly known as El Popo.
But words cannot really describe just how spectacular this eruption was. If you are interested, you can view video footage of the moment when Popocatepetl erupted right here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEc5DeS9DE)…

Meanwhile, seismologists all over the globe are speculating about which area of our planet may be hit next.

For example, scientists in India believe that the tremendous amount of tectonic strain that has built up out there could ultimately produce a magnitude 8 or magnitude 9 earthquake, and they are convinced that this quake “can come at any time” (http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/ecuador-earthquake-a-megathrust-is-brewing-in-india-say-experts-2759957/)…

A subduction process similar to the one that caused the Ecuadorean quake is happening under the Himalayan region as well, where the Indian plate is getting inside the Chinese landmass.

This northward push has been creating a huge amount of tectonic strain in the region, making it particularly prone to earthquakes.

Scientists believe there is so much energy stored in the area that an earthquake of magnitude greater than 8, possibly even 9, would be needed to release it. This earthquake can come at any time.
Here in the United States, some experts are deeply concerned that the west coast is particularly vulnerable. One of those experts is former USGS scientist Jim Berkland. The following is what Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland) has to say about him…

Jim Berkland studied geology at the University of California, Berkeley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley) earning the Bachelor of Arts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) degree in 1958. Thereafter he worked for the United States Geological Survey while pursuing graduate study. In 1964, he took a position at the United States Bureau of Reclamation.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland#cite_note-3) After further graduate study, he taught for a year at Appalachian State University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_State_University), 1972–1973, then returned to California to work as County Geologist for Santa Clara County from 1973 until he retired in 1994.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland#cite_note-4)
During a recent interview with Bobby Powell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZFc3xLSjQ), Berkland explained that most “megaquakes” take place either during a new moon or a full moon, and he pointed to the San Andreas Fault and the Cascadia Subduction Zone as areas that he is particularly concerned about at the moment…

Is “The Big One” imminent? Famed USGS scientist Jim Berkland, the man who predicted the Loma Prieta “World Series Earthquake,” has a terrifying warning for the West Coast of the US in the wake of massive earthquakes in Ecuador and Japan that have left hundreds dead, awakened volcanoes around the Pacific Ocean’s “Ring of Fire,” and kicked off earthquake swarms in Hawaii, Arizona, and Yellowstone National Park.

“Beware the new and full moons,” Berkland says in this exclusive interview. The “maverick geologist” says that 20 of the last 25 “megaquakes” have occurred on the dates of new and full moons, the result of “equinoctal tides,” extreme gravitational forces that cause solid earth to expand and contract much as ocean tides rise and fall.

Berkland says that he is particularly worried about the San Andreas Fault in the LA Basin and the Cascadia Subduction Zone along the coast of Oregon and Washington State, where a long overdue earthquake would undoubtedly be accompanied by a massive tsunami that could kill thousands and cause billions of dollars in property damage.
Even though I recently wrote a major article about the vulnerability of the Cascadia Subduction Zone (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/coming-soon-this-is-what-would-happen-if-a-9-0-earthquake-hit-the-cascadia-subduction-zone), I want to make it clear that I am not forecasting that any particular disaster will hit any particular area at any particular time.

But what we can say with certainty is that the crust of our planet is becoming increasingly unstable. Our world is being pummeled by dozens of earthquakes of magnitude 4.0 or greater, and as you read this article a total of 38 volcanoes are erupting worldwide.

And it is quite interesting to note that in 1906 there were major earthquakes in Ecuador and Japan that preceded the historic San Francisco earthquake.

On January 31st, 1906 an enormous magnitude 8.8 earthquake hit Ecuador (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_Ecuador%E2%80%93Colombia_earthquake), and that was followed by a magnitude 7.1 earthquake in Japan on March 17th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_Meishan_earthquake).

Of course most Americans have already heard about the magnitude 7.8 earthquake that hit San Francisco on April 18th of that year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake), but most people don’t understand that it came in the context of these other major quakes.

Could we be witnessing a similar pattern today?

In Matthew 24, Jesus warned us that earthquakes in diverse places would be one of the signs that His return was drawing near (http://amzn.to/26e2QDC). He also explained that the time immediately preceding His return would be the worst time in all of human history.

Could it be possible that we are now entering that period of time?

21st April 2016, 05:11
Yes, In a nutshell, Mt. Popocatepetl erupting like this straight after the Japan & Equador Earthquakes should be a major wake-up call. It is right on the San Andreas faultline.

Bill Ryan
21st April 2016, 12:07
This very interesting new video from Durchsinse explains a LOT. He's convinced, and explains in detail why, that geophysicists' statements that major earthquakes located great distances from one another are unrelated, are entirely wrong.


21st April 2016, 12:33
Am I the only one who sees this connection?

Cross-posting a comment from another thread:


Move the timer over to 17 min: 45 sec. mark; listen to what Dr. Farrell has to say about counter-rotational magnetic fields being produced at CERN that are 15,000 times stronger than the local magnetic field strength of the Earth !!! He goes on to say, "it's possible you have a machine that is manipulating magnetic fields on a planetary scale that has nothing to do with particle physics".

What's happening on a global basis.... no, on a solar system basis.... rather, on a galactic basis, all converges-back on CERN. These Reptilian Monsters are fu<king with magnetic fields so powerful, that they are able to create solar conditions which are causing the entire planet to erupt!!! This is all by design. This is all a long term agenda, which they've been building-up to for the past 50 years!!!

Doesn't anyone get it? CERN has nothing to do with particle physics. That's all smoke-and-mirrors. CERN is an Extinction Machine, and all systems are designed to conceal that fact....

21st April 2016, 16:34
No, observer, you're not the only one who sees this connection.

From Dutchsinse's facebook page:



April 15 at 11:11pm ·

CERN pumping high power beams again at same time the large earthquakes begin striking.

At the same time they're pumping TeV of power via high power microwave beams ( the beams translate to power which ultimately goes to ground - ground being the Earth's core).... we see swarms of large earthquakes strike globally.

Coincidence yet again? This is now the 5th time since we've been keeping official track.

I'm getting a bit "conCERNed" at this point. So are other people who are paying attention to the connection between CERN operations and large earthquake + volcanic activity.

27th April 2016, 15:14

Nick Matkin
27th April 2016, 20:15
I can't find any confirmation of Russian troop movements due to expected 'global catastrophe'.

Redstar Kachina
27th April 2016, 20:33

Bill Ryan
15th May 2016, 12:39
The FEMA disaster drill that's been brought forward from August to June:

From http://fema.gov/cascadia-rising-2016

Cascadia Rising 2016


A 9.0 magnitude earthquake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone (CSZ) and the resulting tsunami is the most complex disaster scenario that emergency management and public safety officials in the Pacific Northwest could face. Cascadia Rising is an exercise to address that disaster.

June 7-10, 2016 Emergency Operations and Coordination Centers (EOC/ECCs) at all levels of government and the private sector will activate to conduct a simulated field response operation within their jurisdictions and with neighboring communities, state EOCs, FEMA, and major military commands.

Conducting successful life-saving and life-sustaining response operations in the aftermath of a Cascadia Subduction Zone disaster will hinge on the effective coordination and integration of governments at all levels – cities, counties, state agencies, federal officials, the military, tribal nations – as well as non-government organizations and the private sector. One of the primary goals of Cascadia Rising is to train and test this whole community approach to complex disaster operations together as a joint team.

Recent subduction zone earthquakes around the world underscore the catastrophic impacts we will face when the next CSZ earthquake and tsunami occurs in our region:

Indonesia (2004): M9.1 --- 228,000 fatalities
Chile (2010): M8.8 --- 500 fatalities
Japan (2011): M9.0 --- 18,000 fatalities


The Cascadia Subduction Zone off the coast of North America spans from northern California to southern British Columbia. This subduction zone can produce earthquakes as large as magnitude 9 and corresponding tsunamis. Scientific evidence indicates that a magnitude 8.0-9.0 earthquake occurs along the 800-mile long fault on average once every 200 to 500 years. The last major earthquake and tsunami along the fault occurred over 300 years ago in 1700. (Download Image (https://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/images/115834))

15th May 2016, 15:10
Hia Bill - I've had discussions with first responders on various levels.. The issue still is lack of coordination, and who will be the "ruling agency" that will take over.. , And will the local responders fully comply when someone who has no LOCAL experience comes in to dictate "what will be done by the book.." I've been a first responder myself back in the 1970 era from the emergency search and rescue.. watched the "drills", and the scuttlebutt/splashback.. Nobody being in the same radio frequency band, outdated equipment.. Then the "plan" afterwards, who will take over..

The Fort McMurray fires can be a micro-example of what one may expect - evacuation, as no doubt there will be fires during a 'cascadia event'. Could an eruption happen? The relatively "small" 7.8 event off NW coast of Ecuador is still creating instability.. A "big one" in the upper NW of the US would continue to rock and roll for quite some time. Natural gas pipelines leaking and having to be shut off, and underground storage of the natural gas leaking (look at the disaster outside of LA in the hills where natural gas was leaking forcing evacuation). Nobody is going to be able to pump out the stored gas safely in a disaster zone, and the continual leaking may create continual hazardous conditions..

Conducting successful life-saving and life-sustaining response operations in the aftermath of a Cascadia Subduction Zone disaster will hinge on the effective coordination and integration of governments at all levels – cities, counties, state agencies, federal officials, the military, tribal nations – as well as non-government organizations and the private sector. One of the primary goals of Cascadia Rising is to train and test this whole community approach to complex disaster operations together as a joint team.

I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.. They may believe they do, but if they were to actually GO to Ecuador for instance, get in there, start digging for bodies, survivors, and then try to help the survivors with food water shelter medical and continual medical aid (Like recall the cholera in Haiti, lack of shelter).. The traumatic shock takes a toll on the survivors. Something else to deal with.

Bill Ryan
15th May 2016, 15:34
I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.

Right. It's kind of hard to simulate!

Reported in this video (at 3:54), Chris Goldfinger (http://ceoas.oregonstate.edu/profile/goldfinger), a paleo-seismologist at Oregon State University, states:

"We're not completely unprepared, but we're pretty darn close. On a scale of 1 to 10, we're probably a little shy of 1 at this point."


15th May 2016, 15:49
I always get a bit nervous when FEMA conducts these kind of "drills"; look what happened with 9-11? :facepalm:

If I recall, 10,000 deaths was a best case scenario. Worst case was upward of 250,000!

15th May 2016, 18:58
I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.

Right. It's kind of hard to simulate!

Reported in this video (at 3:54), Chris Goldfinger (http://ceoas.oregonstate.edu/profile/goldfinger), a paleo-seismologist at Oregon State University, states:

"We're not completely unprepared, but we're pretty darn close.

On a scale of 1 to 10, we're probably a little shy of 1 at this point."

Seems to me, when confronted with mass injury, mass death of one's own community the first responders will get emotionally hit. From experience what first happens with the first 10 bodies one comes across, when taking a break, "Let's go get a hamburger.." (alluding to the "fresh meat" makes one hungry), seriously, that IS said amongst the troops, to try to come up with a COPE strategy.

Then a weariness sets in.. The first responder starts to NUMB out.. Appearing uncaring, it is really quite the opposite.. its an overload, overwhelm..

After a while the weariness starts to turn to "taking chances".. 'forgetting' to tighten the straps on the full face mask..

I'll just bring up a fictional character, "Captain Hawk-Eye Pierce" from the long running TV series MASH. Watching "Hawk-Eye" (Alan Alda actor), the "cope" reaction was seen frequently - in the end Pierce cracked emotionally..

Between the folks called in to try to recover, and the injured.. the most amazing reactions happen.

Being in the mash of the things, what happens to consciousness is a very abrupt disconnect, and now and then, unbelievable acts of kindness will spontaneously appear - miracles happen..

Bill Ryan
22nd July 2016, 13:13
From http://lagrandeobserver.com/news/local/4505919-151/personal-preparedness-will-be-key-in-big-earthquake

Personal preparedness will be key in ‘big’ earthquake event

Cascadia earthquake projected to hit Pacific Northwest


By Cherise Kaechele
The Observer, 15 July 2016

The massive earthquake and the ensuing tsunami that hit Japan in 2011 killed thousands and caused damage that took years to repair. Geologists say a similar event is likely along the Northwest Coast, and emergency managers urge residents to prepare.

The earthquake would be the biggest natural disaster the nation has ever seen,
according to a June 4 story by The Associated Press.

The Cascadia Subduction Zone is a convergent plate boundary that runs between northern Vancouver Island and Northern California. Geologists claim there is a large-scale earthquake, approximately 9.0 in magnitude, looming in the region’s future. It’s been 315 years since the last Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake. These earthquakes tend to hit the Oregon coast every 234 years on average, according to an Oregon Public Broadcasting article.

More than 8 million people live in the area that is vulnerable to a quake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone, according to The Associated Press story. In the Grande Ronde Valley, there will likely be some isolated areas of damage, but nothing like the destruction that such a quake would cause on the west side of the state, said J.B. Brock, emergency services director for Union County.

The projections created by geologists of estimated fatalities and the lasting effects of this earthquake are available — but that’s the important thing to keep in mind, Brock said. They’re just projections.

“It’s best guess modeling,” he said.

He said the strongest shaking the county would see is predominantly in the valley, according to projections.

“There’s a little bit (of shaking) in La Grande, along the river, some in Elgin,” he said. “Most of Cove looks good. The good news is we’re not going to see a significant amount of shaking. The bad news is, we’ll see some.”

The major potential effects on residents, Brock said, include power outages and a loss of natural gas.

The phone systems won’t be down immediately, he said. He said should the earthquake hit, social media would be the best way to communicate with family and friends.

“Have a communication plan. Not only for your family, but anyone else you’re concerned about,” Brock said. “Especially on the west side. How are you going to communicate with each other?”

Brock suggested using the Red Cross Safe and Well system, a registry that people can check to see if family has registered on the website.

As Brock pointed out, the extent of the damage naturally depends on the magnitude of the quake.

“There are different classifications of earthquakes,” he said. “The 7.0 magnitude is just clearing its throat. The 9.0 is the ‘big bad’. Either one of those could happen.”

The longer term effects of a large-scale quake could cause more trouble for our region, he said. Many bridges on the west side of the Cascades will likely be destroyed, which will affect the delivery of goods and services that come out of that area.

“Not only will there be immediate damage to transportation infrastructure, but the rail lines and barge traffic as well,” Brock said. “Because of the tsunami, those ports will receive significant damage. The economic long term is more concerning than the emergency.”

It’s all projections though, he said. The only way to deal with the possibility of a cataclysmic event is to be prepared.

“Personal preparedness is key,” Brock said. “The emergency federal sites recommend 72 hours’ worth of food. However, I’d say, at a minimum, (you should have on hand) 10 days’ worth of fuel, food, water and medications to be fully self-sustaining.”

He also emphasized people need to know that it’s crucial to store plenty of water. Brock said we should be prepared for the quake happening in any season. If it hits in the midst of winter, having the proper clothing and shelter to keep warm will be essential.

Last month, first responders in Union County took part in a training exercise with the Cascadia earthquake as their model. Three different scenes were set up with casualties, including fatalities, to ready the emergency responders for this incident.

The first responders have an inkling of what’s going to be required of them when this earthquake hits, but the more prepared people are for this scenario, the better off the community will be, Brock said.

For significant injuries, the Grande Ronde Hospital would stabilize the patients and fly them to a higher level of care. That’s the model pushed down by the federal government for a situation like this. However, with an event like the earthquake, that model, and the resources required, may not be possible or available.

“A lot of people in the state will be transferring their patients to the same hospital,” Brock said.

There’s really no way of knowing what resources are going to be available. The earthquake will affect the entire Pacific Northwest and the communities won’t be able to rely on each other for their resources, he said.

“We have to keep in mind where we live and what sort of help we’ll be getting here,” Brock said. “The federal government and Red Cross will take about 72 hours to respond. The resources that will be coming into help will not be coming to the Grande Ronde Valley first. They’ll be going to the I-5 corridor. We need to have a higher level of preparedness. We live in a rural area for a reason. We’re more self-sufficient. We should be more prepared.”

Brock said there are resources online that talk about what should be in an emergency kit and how and what to stockpile. A good place to start is to think about what the family needs on a day-to-day basis to sustain themselves.

“If you’re not part of the solution, you’re not prepared, (and) you’re directly affecting those who need help,” Brock said. “(Emergency responders) won’t want to give food to all 26,000 people in the county.”

Above all, Brock said, the community should realize that it’s not a question of whether this earthquake will take place, but when.

“I think that’s important, because that defines the threat. There is historical evidence this will happen,” he said. “It has happened many times before. And there’s significant evidence we’re overdue for it.”

22nd July 2016, 14:07
Simon Parkes has said recently ( I think it was in the last Connecting Consciousness show with Jay Pee that the cabal are planning to create a 7 point earthquake along the West Coast on the San Andreas soon.
He said some want it just before the next election and some want it just after.
I think it was in the same talk he mentioned that there is a lot of dark energy around Seattle, and a lot of underground bases there, so it would seem that there might not be any deliberate strikes in that area, though the Cascadian fault, of course, could still go ioff at any time, not to mention the San Andreas.
He is working on organizing the Connecting Consciousness group to do a mediation to see if they can prevent the deliberate strikes, the same group that did a group meditation to prevent CERN from operating recently (when it broke down).