The Pacific NW Cascadia Big One is Due, Quake Expert Says

[rgray222]

Sitting on a major fault line, Oregon is "like an eight-and-a-half-month pregnancy, due any time now" for a major earthquake, a geologist with the Oregon Office of Emergency Management told an overflow crowd Friday in Medford.

"We're in the zone, and we'd darn well better get ourselves ready for it," said Althea Rizzo, geology hazard coordinator for OEM. "A lot of you may have moved here from California to escape them, but the fact is, Oregon is earthquake country."

About half the hands went up when Rizzo asked how many had been through a California earthquake.


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Rizzo said there's a 37 percent chance the Big One will happen in the next 50 years.

A major earthquake would cripple transportation on Interstate 5 as bridges and overpasses collapse from two to four minutes of ground shaking, possible very severe, with stressful aftershocks for weeks.

"It's going to shake here," she said. "Single-family homes will bounce off their foundations. Landslides will cause transportation between I-5 and (Highway) 101 on the coast to be cut off for three to five years."

A big quake will cause liquefaction, in which the ground, if saturated with water, will "turn to pudding," causing hardware, such as sewer systems, septic lines and gas tanks, to rise up out of the earth.

Lines from Washington state gasoline refineries cross 15 rivers, leaving them vulnerable to quake tremors, she says. Most of these were built in the mid-20th century, with no thought to making them quake-resistant, she says, adding that they would be offline for at least six months.

Electrical power would be down from one to three months until transformers and the electrical grid get going again, she says.

A region's markets have food enough for only three days, so families should store at least three weeks of nonperishable food — tuna, beans, freeze-dried items — and other vital commodities, such as toilet paper.

Rizzo advocates planning on the household, regional and statewide levels before the inevitable quake emanates from the "big, bad, ugly" Cascadia Subduction Zone, which runs 600 miles from about Eureka, Calif., to the north end of Vancouver Island.

The North American tectonic plate, on which the Rogue Valley rests, is moving southwesterly a couple of inches a year, overriding oceanic plates and building up tension. When the tension is released, she said, it causes far-reaching land quakes and lifts an enormous amount of sea water, which will slam the Oregon Coast with tsunamis.

Partial quakes happen on an average of every 240 years. The last one was in 1700, so it's been 213 years. Quakes of the entire length of the zone come every 500 to 600 years and governments should expect those to be 9.0 or more on the Richter scale — tremendously devastating.

They cannot be predicted, Rizzo said.

Another blow to Oregon would come if vital utilities and transportation were cut off for so long that major businesses left the state and took jobs and money with them.

A dozen years ago, Oregon authorized $2 billion in bonds to bolster infrastructure in schools, community colleges and emergency services, but the recession, she said, took that off-track.

Rizzo urged several hundred local residents to spread the word to family and friends to take first-aid and Community Emergency Response Team training, store supplies and get to know your neighbors and people who have training and tools.

Communities must assess risks to buildings, roads, power, water and sewer lines, she said, adding that people should learn to "drop, cover and hold" and practice getting to safe places in their homes. Wall art should be screwed down, big furniture, water heater and bookcases secured, and heavy items kept close to the floor, not up high where they could fall on people.

"You need to practice this over and over because when it's happening you're not going to be able to think," she said.

The Great Oregon Shake-Out will be held at 10:17 a.m. Oct. 17 to do the "drop, cover and hold on" drill. Details of this and all other quake information can be found at www.oregon.gov/omd/oem.

Source (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130921/NEWS/309210314)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Thank you for posting this. It's very vital, very underplayed, and very real.
Many of us with an interest in quakes have been worried about Juan de Fuca.
Ever since 2007-2008 I have lived on or near the fault line and something woke me up to the fact that we need to watch it closely.
A few years back, there were severe offshore quakes near Eureka CA, Portland, OR, Vancouver Island.
I wrote to USGS and the Seattle Times hoping journalists and scientists would do their best to prepare the people.

I can't stop wondering what could happen if we DID get a megaquake and it compromised Rainier.
It's an elevated composite cone and it would be a BAD BAD deal.

Hopefully that won't happen. The Cascadia "big one" will be bad enough without Lahars and lateral blasts.

p.s. i can't imagine the states being cut off from each other for 5 years! Holy moly, and that's an expert saying so!

[ghostrider]

it's in the meier predictions, a seaquake off the coast of oregon 9.0 lasting for five minutes creating a tidal wave that will kill thousands on the west coast ...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Hmm, you're right, check this out.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/9/prweb1365754.htm


Swiss Man's Prediction of 9.0 NW Earthquake Now Echoed by U.S. Scientists
Government officials in the designated areas urged to immediately create evacuation plans for the predicted resulting tsunami.
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Los Angeles, CA (PRWEB) September 22, 2008

Recent findings by scientific experts echo a prediction, from 2005, of a mammoth earthquake that will be centered in the Pacific Northwest. The prediction by Billy Meier, a 71-year old Swiss man with a remarkable, 58-year record of specific, accurate predictions, and the report from 2008 by Oregon State University scientists (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080826124413.htm) agree on the likelihood of an enormous natural disaster occurring. However, Meier's warning also specifically mentioned a gigantic tsunami that would produce unimaginably devastating consequences for residents of the Pacific coast.
On June 25, 2005, over three years before the OSU report was issued, Meier published the following warning, "According to our preview there will be a seaquake of 9 points on the Richter Scale in the region of the North Pacific not far from the American coast, from Portland to the south of California up to Washington in the north. As a result there will be a gigantic fault of several hundred kilometers, when as never before, a seaquake-tsunami will spread in a ring form and produce immense devastation on the main land and on the islands, which will cost many human lives. The seaquake will last for about five minutes, to be followed by additional and less forceful quakes, which will trigger another but less severe tsunami. Some facts about this threatening danger are known to terrestrial scientists, but they are not capable of realizing the really/factually developing catastrophe."
OSU scientists don't foresee a tsunami and have a lower estimate of the magnitude of the quake than Meier. Neither they, nor Meier gave a specific date for the predicted events. Even with advance warning and monitoring of natural disasters like hurricanes and tornadoes, the resulting damage and loss of life can be massive. But since the exact time, location and magnitude of earthquakes and tsunamis is rarely, if ever, precisely predicted, the resulting losses in life and property are often far more catastrophic.
It is incumbent upon all pertinent government agencies and officials in the designated areas to immediately create evacuation plans and to warn the population in the areas most at risk of the possibility of a tsunami, so that they can make their own escape plans for their families and themselves.
Links to Some of Meier's Prophetic Information:
The fall of the U.S. dollar, dangers of attacking Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29wnpEy2DY4
Meier beating NASA by 32 years regarding Mars discoveries:
http://theyfly.com/newsflash94/UFO_Skeptics_Throw_in_the_Towel.htm
The Russia-Georgia scenario:
http://theyfly.com/newsflash94/Meier_Warned_About_Russia_Georgia.pdf
From 1951: Ozone destruction, climate change, weather disasters, mega-quakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, illegal immigration, home computers, etc.:
http://theyfly.com/lost/sfath.prophecies.1951.htm
From 1958: Iraq Wars, AIDS, cell phones, credit cards, moon launches, global terrorism, European Union, bio-chipping, global warming, internet, two planets beyond Pluto, crystal meth epidemic, etc:
http://theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm
From 1975-1987: Jupiter's moons, Saturn's moon, Venus details, destruction of WTC, more U.S. wars, fall of Catholic Church, fall of France to Islam and invasion, fall of England, military movements of Russia, Mad Cow Disease, Chinese attack on India, civil wars and fall of U.S., etc.: http://theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

In fact wasn't a book on the 9.0M published this year by a Seattle Times journalist???????????????

lol!

lemme find it.


'Full Rip 9.0' review: The next big thing- Warnings of a megaquake
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FULL RIP 9.0
Sandi Doughton
Sasquatch Books
$23.95, 288 pages

If ever a book risked being labeled "unsuitable for beach reading," it might well be "Full Rip 9.0: The Next Big Earthquake in the Pacific Northwest." Author Sandi Doughton surveys the science and implications of the mega-earthquake certain to strike along the 750-mile Cascadia Subduction Zone fault that parallels the coastline of Oregon and Washington, and the tsunami it will send into our shores.

The first popular account of earthquake and tsunami risk to the Pacific Northwest published since Japan's Tohoku disaster in March of 2011, Doughton's book traces the 30-year burst of discoveries in the geosciences shaping expert consensus that Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have experienced, and will experience again, temblors as powerful as any on earth.

Ninety years ago, a prominent geologist declared the Puget Sound area "earthquake-proof." No credible scientist would repeat that claim today.

"Piece by piece, scientists have re-created a history fraught with mayhem," Doughton writes. "If there's one thing geologists grasp that most people don't, it's that what happened before will happen again."

An award-winning science writer for The Seattle Times, Doughton keeps a tight focus on the scientists whose work has shaped this new assessment of the Cascadia fault. A central narrative is the story of University of Washington geologist Brian Atwater, whose painstaking study of soil profiles in the bays and estuaries of western Washington revealed sand layers left by recurrent tsunamis and helped to prove that the most recent full-rip earthquake struck our region at around 9 p.m. on Jan. 26, 1700.

Doughton recounts traveling with Atwater to the "ghost forest" of the Copalis River. Rot-resistant dead cedar trees there supplied smoking-gun proof that sections of the Northwest Coast dropped as much as six feet during the 1700 earthquake, consistent with the behavior of other subduction zones around the world.

If Atwater's story deserves to be more widely known, so, too, does the work of Oregon State University professor Chris Goldfinger, whose sampling of ocean sediments has confirmed 19 full-rip Cascadia megaquakes during the last 10,000 years, and revealed another 23 temblors affecting only Oregon and Northern California. Goldfinger's findings suggest that the average interval separating major Cascadia quakes is 250 years. With the current quiet interval at 313 years and counting, Seattle is scarcely the only Northwest ZIP code whose residents have reason to be sleepless.

The outlook for the coast, where vulnerability to ground-shaking and inundation is described as a "mirror image" of Japan's, is grim. Doughton's account of the tsunami vulnerability shared by Cannon Beach, Seaside and Washington's Long Beach Peninsula supplies ample reason for every weekend visitor to seek evacuation routes and be prepared to move -- quickly and on foot -- to the nearest high ground in the event the ground shakes.

Doughton mentions state-sponsored planning efforts to prioritize upgrades to Northwest buildings, roads, bridges and public utilities, but "Full Rip 9.0" does not delve deeply into personal preparedness. The author repeats the conventional wisdom: prepare water and emergency supplies for a 72-hour period. Many emergency planners now urge citizens to provision for at least a week of disruption, possibly more.

"Full Rip 9.0" is a worthy addition to the small shelf of books about the greatest natural hazard facing the Pacific Northwest. Doughton balances the excitement of scientific discovery with the grave risks that recent findings have revealed. Every Oregonian should learn and heed this Cascadia story.

If copies of the book beat the odds and find their way into a beach bag or two this summer, they will assuredly help spread the informed awareness that is the first step toward a more resilient Pacific Northwest.

-- Edward Wolf's recent reviews for The Oregonian include Bill McKibben's "EAARTH" and John Daniel's "Rogue River Journal."

Reading: Doughton reads from "Full Rip 9.0" at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Powell's City of Books, 1005 W. Burnside St.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I told ST that a wave could come right into the Juan de Fuca straight from SW vancouver island seabed

[Bob]

Hi Tesla_WTC and the Group. Watch the skies.

I pointed out in another location I believe, that there is a pattern that starts to appear in the clouds when the fault zones are under extreme pressure and "breaking".

There is also an electrical field which can be picked up by sensors, basically under the 20 kilohertz frequency range. These coils can be hooked up the the mike input of a notebook PC and simple freeware software run to monitor. There is a characteristic spike pattern which starts to appear up to 24 hours before an event. I monitored similar type of signals in the 80's over the New Madrid fault. Below is what I was looking at (the New Madrid)

http://endoftheamericandream.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/New-Madrid-Fault-Earthquake-Zone.jpg

Below is the Juan de Fuca seismicity

http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/hs/Juan-de-fuca-plate-md.jpg

[grannyfranny100]

Althea Rizzo tells it like it is and I wonder if she will lose her job because of the potential that businesses and residents might move out of state? I imagine lots of political types will calm the people into not reacting because it could still be 50 years off. Sounds like a terrible fate when it comes.

Given the Federal government's reaction to the Gulf Oil spill, levee breaks in New Orleans and the hurricane problems in NJ, NY, etc., people should know better than to expect Federal government help.

[Heartsong]

Thanks for this thread. Much to think about.

It is scary. I live in the Willamette Valley about 50 miles south of Portland. The prospect of a mega earthquake makes a person feel a bit helpless. I could stock enough food for 6 weeks but what if I'm not home when it happens? What if family members are scattered around the city? How 'bout my neighbors who live in apartments made of toothpicks? I should know, I watched them being built.

This is a situation that will require much faith and balance along with basic preparedness.

May we all sleep well tonight.

Nancy

[Atlas]

See also:


projectavalon.net/Scientists-Say-California-Mega-Quake-Imminent (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24364-Scientists-Say-California-Mega-Quake-Imminent)



projectavalon.net/US-Mega-Quake-Coming-Warn-Russian-Scientists (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16430-US-Mega-Quake-Coming-Warn-Russian-Scientists)



projectavalon.net/Prophets-Planets-and-Physicists-Align-On-California-Quake (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17466-Prophets-Planets-and-Physicists-Align-On-California-Quake-26-March-2011-01-24)

[Nick Matkin]

A promising earthquake predictor is the newly discovered phenomenon of increased electron density in the ionosphere above an earthquake zone about an hour before one strikes.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17487482)
A longer video here. (http://vimeo.com/69901703)

A fascinating accidental discovery if it turns out to be a genuine, repeatable effect.

(It was reported by the BBC so it must be true! :rolleyes:)

Nick

[justntime2learn]

" This type of event is usually followed by a massive upward movement of the North American Plate causing a very severe earthquake."

Can Superstation.com be trusted or is it another hoax channel ?

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/779

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/1.jpg

"An ocean data buoy is alerting to an "event" in the Cascadia Subduction Zone off the west coast of Oregon. This is where a magnitude 9 earthquake hit in 1700.

According to the data buoy, the water column height (depth) fell sharply within minutes off the coast of Oregon, signaling the land beneath the ocean has suddenly "sunk." Here are the graphs showing what the ocean data buoy recorded

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/2.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/3.jpg

As of 0231:30, the initial water column height is 2738.80 Meters deep (8985.56 feet). Two minutes and thirty seconds later, that same water column height had dropped to 2738.66 Meters deep (8985.10 feet). Where did the four inches of water disappear to? Answer: The earth sunk; and continued to sink for the next several HOURS. As you can see from the second chart above, from 0230 GMT to 0600 GMT, the ocean continued to sink to 2737.7 meters deep (8981.95 feet). The buoy is too far away from shore to be affected by high/low tide, so where did the four feet of ocean water disappear to?

This means a Tectonic Plate in the Ocean named the "Juan de Fuca Plate" has made a sudden, eastward movement and slipped beneath another Tectonic Plate named the "North American Plate." This type of event is usually followed by a massive upward movement of the North American Plate causing a very severe earthquake.

Here's a map of the relevant Tectonic Plates:

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/5.jpg

In the year 1700, a similar movement of plates is believed to have been the cause of a Magnitude 9.0 earthquake, which devastated the west coast of north America, and generated an ocean Tsunami that washed inland upwards of ten MILES!

FOUR MEAGER FEET OF WATER?

Lest you think that four feet of ocean depth is nothing to be concerned about, be reminded that the entire column of water . . . all 8985 feet of it . . . is what dropped four feet. And it did so over an area several miles wide!

When the tectonic plate snaps back upward, it can launch that entire 8985 foot column of water upward and toward the shore!

As the continental shelf rises toward the shore (the ocean gets more shallow) that 8985 foot column of water starts accumulating upon itself as it moves toward shore, becoming one massive wave, perhaps 45-50 feet tall, that hits the shore for twenty minutes!

Now do you see why this is a big deal?

If such a thing were to happen today, hundreds-of-thousands of people would be killed as a fifteen meter (45 foot) wall of water came ashore well inland passing Interstate 5 and destroying everything its path from the beach to Interstate 5.

Here is a map of I-5, everything to the left of it (to the west) would be wiped out:

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/5.jpg

Mount Hood Volcano Can Be Triggered to Erupt

This type of Tectonic Movement has a direct effect upon the volcanos in the Cascadia Volcanic Chain, in particular, Mount Hood.

When the Juan de Fuca tectonic plate goes beneath the North American plate, it begins to get crushed. The heat from the friction of the two massive plates rubbing together, melts the Juan de Fuca plate into Magma (lava).

Directly next to the Cascadia Subduction Zone is the Mount Hood Volcano. Here's a graphic to show you the relevant details:

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/6.jpg

All along the Cascadia Subduction Zone are volcanoes. Most of them are inactive, but some are quite active. Here is a map of the volcanoes in the Cascade Mountains Range, so you have an understanding of the pressure relief valves (volcanoes) created over millions of years by these two tectonic plates scraping together. Mount Hood is to the right (east of) Portland, Oregon . . .

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/7.jpg

There is a magma tunnel leading directly from the Cascadia Subduction Zone straight up into Mount Hood! As the Juan de Fuca tectonic plate is being crushed (right now) it is melting into magma (lava). Whether or not there is enough magma to cause Mount Hood to erupt is unknown.

DO NOT PANIC - There is no tsunami or volcanic eruption at this time.

There has merely been an "event" in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Oregon in the Cascadia Subduction Zone. This is a very rare occurrence with serious implications. It is worthy of very close monitoring by persons in the potentially-affected areas. This event is a potential warning of a POSSIBLE pending large earthquake on the west coast. There could also be an eruption at Mount Hood.

Folks in Washington, Oregon and northern California as well as in Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA, should make certain they are prepared to take emergency action in the event a major quake does strike.

Full Historic Background and Detailed Explanation - Scary Stuff

Most people in the United States know just one fault line by name: the San Andreas, which runs nearly the length of California and is perpetually rumored to be on the verge of unleashing “the big one.” That rumor is misleading, no matter what the San Andreas ever does. Every fault line has an upper limit to its potency, determined by its length and width, and by how far it can slip. For the San Andreas, one of the most extensively studied and best understood fault lines in the world, that upper limit is roughly an 8.2—a powerful earthquake, but, because the Richter scale is logarithmic, only six per cent as strong as the 2011 event in Japan.

Just north of the San Andreas, however, lies another fault line. Known as the Cascadia subduction zone, it runs for seven hundred miles off the coast of the Pacific Northwest, beginning near Cape Mendocino, California, continuing along Oregon and Washington, and terminating around Vancouver Island, Canada. The “Cascadia” part of its name comes from the Cascade Range, a chain of volcanic mountains that follow the same course a hundred or so miles inland. The “subduction zone” part refers to a region of the planet where one tectonic plate is sliding underneath (subducting) another. Tectonic plates are those slabs of mantle and crust that, in their epochs-long drift, rearrange the earth’s continents and oceans. Most of the time, their movement is slow, harmless, and all but undetectable. Occasionally, at the borders where they meet, it is not.

Take your hands and hold them palms down, middle fingertips touching. Your right hand represents the North American tectonic plate, which bears on its back, among other things, our entire continent, from One World Trade Center to the Space Needle, in Seattle. Your left hand represents an oceanic plate called Juan de Fuca, ninety thousand square miles in size. The place where they meet is the Cascadia subduction zone. Now slide your left hand under your right one. That is what the Juan de Fuca plate is doing: slipping steadily beneath North America. When you try it, your right hand will slide up your left arm, as if you were pushing up your sleeve. That is what North America is not doing. It is stuck, wedged tight against the surface of the other plate.

Without moving your hands, curl your right knuckles up, so that they point toward the ceiling. Under pressure from Juan de Fuca, the stuck edge of North America is bulging upward and compressing eastward, at the rate of, respectively, three to four millimeters and thirty to forty millimeters a year. It can do so for quite some time, because, as continent stuff goes, it is young, made of rock that is still relatively elastic. (Rocks, like us, get stiffer as they age.) But it cannot do so indefinitely. There is a backstop—the craton, that ancient unbudgeable mass at the center of the continent—and, sooner or later, North America will rebound like a spring. If, on that occasion, only the southern part of the Cascadia subduction zone gives way—your first two fingers, say—the magnitude of the resulting quake will be somewhere between 8.0 and 8.6. That’s the big one. If the entire zone gives way at once, an event that seismologists call a full-margin rupture, the magnitude will be somewhere between 8.7 and 9.2. That’s the very big one.

Flick your right fingers outward, forcefully, so that your hand flattens back down again. When the next very big earthquake hits, the northwest edge of the continent, from California to Canada and the continental shelf to the Cascades, will drop by as much as six feet and rebound thirty to a hundred feet to the west—losing, within minutes, all the elevation and compression it has gained over centuries. Some of that shift will take place beneath the ocean, displacing a colossal quantity of seawater. (Watch what your fingertips do when you flatten your hand.) The water will surge upward into a huge hill, then promptly collapse. One side will rush west, toward Japan. The other side will rush east, in a seven-hundred-mile liquid wall that will reach the Northwest coast, on average, fifteen minutes after the earthquake begins. By the time the shaking has ceased and the tsunami has receded, the region will be unrecognizable. Kenneth Murphy, who directs FEMA’s Region X, the division responsible for Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and Alaska, says, “Our operating assumption is that everything west of Interstate 5 will be toast.”

In the Pacific Northwest, the area of impact will cover some hundred and forty thousand square miles, including Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, Eugene, Salem (the capital city of Oregon), Olympia (the capital of Washington), and some seven million people. When the next full-margin rupture happens, that region will suffer the worst natural disaster in the history of North America. Roughly three thousand people died in San Francisco’s 1906 earthquake. Almost two thousand died in Hurricane Katrina. Almost three hundred died in Hurricane Sandy. FEMA projects that nearly thirteen thousand people will die in the Cascadia earthquake and tsunami. Another twenty-seven thousand will be injured, and the agency expects that it will need to provide shelter for a million displaced people, and food and water for another two and a half million. “This is one time that I’m hoping all the science is wrong, and it won’t happen for another thousand years,” Murphy says.

In fact, the science is robust, and one of the chief scientists behind it is Chris Goldfinger. Thanks to work done by him and his colleagues, we now know that the odds of the big Cascadia earthquake happening in the next fifty years are roughly one in three. The odds of the very big one are roughly one in ten. Even those numbers do not fully reflect the danger—or, more to the point, how unprepared the Pacific Northwest is to face it. The truly worrisome figures in this story are these: Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed.

In May of 1804, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, together with their Corps of Discovery, set off from St. Louis on America’s first official cross-country expedition. Eighteen months later, they reached the Pacific Ocean and made camp near the present-day town of Astoria, Oregon. The United States was, at the time, twenty-nine years old. Canada was not yet a country. The continent’s far expanses were so unknown to its white explorers that Thomas Jefferson, who commissioned the journey, thought that the men would come across woolly mammoths. Native Americans had lived in the Northwest for millennia, but they had no written language, and the many things to which the arriving Europeans subjected them did not include seismological inquiries. The newcomers took the land they encountered at face value, and at face value it was a find: vast, cheap, temperate, fertile, and, to all appearances, remarkably benign.

A century and a half elapsed before anyone had any inkling that the Pacific Northwest was not a quiet place but a place in a long period of quiet. It took another fifty years to uncover and interpret the region’s seismic history. Geology, as even geologists will tell you, is not normally the sexiest of disciplines; it hunkers down with earthly stuff while the glory accrues to the human and the cosmic—to genetics, neuroscience, physics. But, sooner or later, every field has its field day, and the discovery of the Cascadia subduction zone stands as one of the greatest scientific detective stories of our time.

The first clue came from geography. Almost all of the world’s most powerful earthquakes occur in the Ring of Fire, the volcanically and seismically volatile swath of the Pacific that runs from New Zealand up through Indonesia and Japan, across the ocean to Alaska, and down the west coast of the Americas to Chile.

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/8.jpg

Japan, 2011, magnitude 9.0; Indonesia, 2004, magnitude 9.1; Alaska, 1964, magnitude 9.2; Chile, 1960, magnitude 9.5—not until the late nineteen-sixties, with the rise of the theory of plate tectonics, could geologists explain this pattern. The Ring of Fire, it turns out, is really a ring of subduction zones. Nearly all the earthquakes in the region are caused by continental plates getting stuck on oceanic plates—as North America is stuck on Juan de Fuca—and then getting abruptly unstuck. And nearly all the volcanoes are caused by the oceanic plates sliding deep beneath the continental ones, eventually reaching temperatures and pressures so extreme that they melt the rock above them.

The Pacific Northwest sits squarely within the Ring of Fire. Off its coast, an oceanic plate is slipping beneath a continental one. Inland, the Cascade volcanoes mark the line where, far below, the Juan de Fuca plate is heating up and melting everything above it. In other words, the Cascadia subduction zone has, as Goldfinger put it, “all the right anatomical parts.” Yet not once in recorded history has it caused a major earthquake—or, for that matter, any quake to speak of. By contrast, other subduction zones produce major earthquakes occasionally and minor ones all the time: magnitude 5.0, magnitude 4.0, magnitude why are the neighbors moving their sofa at midnight. You can scarcely spend a week in Japan without feeling this sort of earthquake. You can spend a lifetime in many parts of the Northwest—several, in fact, if you had them to spend—and not feel so much as a quiver. The question facing geologists in the nineteen-seventies was whether the Cascadia subduction zone had ever broken its eerie silence.

In the late nineteen-eighties, Brian Atwater, a geologist with the United States Geological Survey, and a graduate student named David Yamaguchi found the answer, and another major clue in the Cascadia puzzle. Their discovery is best illustrated in a place called the ghost forest, a grove of western red cedars on the banks of the Copalis River, near the Washington coast. When I paddled out to it last summer, with Atwater and Yamaguchi, it was easy to see how it got its name. The cedars are spread out across a low salt marsh on a wide northern bend in the river, long dead but still standing. Leafless, branchless, barkless, they are reduced to their trunks and worn to a smooth silver-gray, as if they had always carried their own tombstones inside them.

What killed the trees in the ghost forest was saltwater. It had long been assumed that they died slowly, as the sea level around them gradually rose and submerged their roots. But, by 1987, Atwater, who had found in soil layers evidence of sudden land subsidence along the Washington coast, suspected that that was backward—that the trees had died quickly when the ground beneath them plummeted. To find out, he teamed up with Yamaguchi, a specialist in dendrochronology, the study of growth-ring patterns in trees. Yamaguchi took samples of the cedars and found that they had died simultaneously: in tree after tree, the final rings dated to the summer of 1699. Since trees do not grow in the winter, he and Atwater concluded that sometime between August of 1699 and May of 1700 an earthquake had caused the land to drop and killed the cedars. That time frame predated by more than a hundred years the written history of the Pacific Northwest—and so, by rights, the detective story should have ended there.

But it did not. If you travel five thousand miles due west from the ghost forest, you reach the northeast coast of Japan. As the events of 2011 made clear, that coast is vulnerable to tsunamis, and the Japanese have kept track of them since at least 599 A.D. In that fourteen-hundred-year history, one incident has long stood out for its strangeness. On the eighth day of the twelfth month of the twelfth year of the Genroku era, a six-hundred-mile-long wave struck the coast, levelling homes, breaching a castle moat, and causing an accident at sea. The Japanese understood that tsunamis were the result of earthquakes, yet no one felt the ground shake before the Genroku event. The wave had no discernible origin. When scientists began studying it, they called it an orphan tsunami.

Finally, in a 1996 article in Nature, a seismologist named Kenji Satake and three colleagues, drawing on the work of Atwater and Yamaguchi, matched that orphan to its parent—and thereby filled in the blanks in the Cascadia story with uncanny specificity. At approximately nine o’ clock at night on January 26, 1700, a magnitude-9.0 earthquake struck the Pacific Northwest, causing sudden land subsidence, drowning coastal forests, and, out in the ocean, lifting up a wave half the length of a continent. It took roughly fifteen minutes for the Eastern half of that wave to strike the Northwest coast. It took ten hours for the other half to cross the ocean. It reached Japan on January 27, 1700: by the local calendar, the eighth day of the twelfth month of the twelfth year of Genroku.

Once scientists had reconstructed the 1700 earthquake, certain previously overlooked accounts also came to seem like clues. In 1964, Chief Louis Nookmis, of the Huu-ay-aht First Nation, in British Columbia, told a story, passed down through seven generations, about the eradication of Vancouver Island’s Pachena Bay people. “I think it was at nighttime that the land shook,” Nookmis recalled. According to another tribal history, “They sank at once, were all drowned; not one survived.” A hundred years earlier, Billy Balch, a leader of the Makah tribe, recounted a similar story. Before his own time, he said, all the water had receded from Washington State’s Neah Bay, then suddenly poured back in, inundating the entire region. Those who survived later found canoes hanging from the trees. In a 2005 study, Ruth Ludwin, then a seismologist at the University of Washington, together with nine colleagues, collected and analyzed Native American reports of earthquakes and saltwater floods. Some of those reports contained enough information to estimate a date range for the events they described. On average, the midpoint of that range was 1701.

It does not speak well of European-Americans that such stories counted as evidence for a proposition only after that proposition had been proved. Still, the reconstruction of the Cascadia earthquake of 1700 is one of those rare natural puzzles whose pieces fit together as tectonic plates do not: perfectly. It is wonderful science. It was wonderful for science. And it was terrible news for the millions of inhabitants of the Pacific Northwest. As Goldfinger put it, “In the late eighties and early nineties, the paradigm shifted to ‘uh-oh.’ ”

Goldfinger told me this in his lab at Oregon State, a low prefab building that a passing English major might reasonably mistake for the maintenance department. Inside the lab is a walk-in freezer. Inside the freezer are floor-to-ceiling racks filled with cryptically labelled tubes, four inches in diameter and five feet long. Each tube contains a core sample of the seafloor. Each sample contains the history, written in seafloorese, of the past ten thousand years. During subduction-zone earthquakes, torrents of land rush off the continental slope, leaving a permanent deposit on the bottom of the ocean. By counting the number and the size of deposits in each sample, then comparing their extent and consistency along the length of the Cascadia subduction zone, Goldfinger and his colleagues were able to determine how much of the zone has ruptured, how often, and how drastically.

Thanks to that work, we now know that the Pacific Northwest has experienced forty-one subduction-zone earthquakes in the past ten thousand years. If you divide ten thousand by forty-one, you get two hundred and forty-three, which is Cascadia’s recurrence interval: the average amount of time that elapses between earthquakes. That timespan is dangerous both because it is too long—long enough for us to unwittingly build an entire civilization on top of our continent’s worst fault line—and because it is not long enough. Counting from the earthquake of 1700, we are now three hundred and fifteen years into a two-hundred-and-forty-three-year cycle.
It is possible to quibble with that number. Recurrence intervals are averages, and averages are tricky: ten is the average of nine and eleven, but also of eighteen and two. It is not possible, however, to dispute the scale of the problem. The devastation in Japan in 2011 was the result of a discrepancy between what the best science predicted and what the region was prepared to withstand. The same will hold true in the Pacific Northwest—but here the discrepancy is enormous. “The science part is fun,” Goldfinger says. “And I love doing it. But the gap between what we know and what we should do about it is getting bigger and bigger, and the action really needs to turn to responding. Otherwise, we’re going to be hammered. I’ve been through one of these massive earthquakes in the most seismically prepared nation on earth. If that was Portland”—Goldfinger finished the sentence with a shake of his head before he finished it with words. “Let’s just say I would rather not be here.”

The first sign that the Cascadia earthquake has begun will be a compressional wave, radiating outward from the fault line. Compressional waves are fast-moving, high-frequency waves, audible to dogs and certain other animals but experienced by humans only as a sudden jolt. They are not very harmful, but they are potentially very useful, since they travel fast enough to be detected by sensors thirty to ninety seconds ahead of other seismic waves. That is enough time for earthquake early-warning systems, such as those in use throughout Japan, to automatically perform a variety of lifesaving functions: shutting down railways and power plants, opening elevators and firehouse doors, alerting hospitals to halt surgeries, and triggering alarms so that the general public can take cover. The Pacific Northwest has no early-warning system. When the Cascadia earthquake begins, there will be, instead, a cacophony of barking dogs and a long, suspended, what-was-that moment before the surface waves arrive. Surface waves are slower, lower-frequency waves that move the ground both up and down and side to side: the shaking, starting in earnest.

Soon after that shaking begins, the electrical grid will fail, likely everywhere west of the Cascades and possibly well beyond. If it happens at night, the ensuing catastrophe will unfold in darkness. In theory, those who are at home when it hits should be safest; it is easy and relatively inexpensive to seismically safeguard a private dwelling. But, lulled into nonchalance by their seemingly benign environment, most people in the Pacific Northwest have not done so. That nonchalance will shatter instantly. So will everything made of glass. Anything indoors and unsecured will lurch across the floor or come crashing down: bookshelves, lamps, computers, cannisters of flour in the pantry. Refrigerators will walk out of kitchens, unplugging themselves and toppling over. Water heaters will fall and smash interior gas lines. Houses that are not bolted to their foundations will slide off—or, rather, they will stay put, obeying inertia, while the foundations, together with the rest of the Northwest, jolt westward. Unmoored on the undulating ground, the homes will begin to collapse.

Across the region, other, larger structures will also start to fail. Until 1974, the state of Oregon had no seismic code, and few places in the Pacific Northwest had one appropriate to a magnitude-9.0 earthquake until 1994. The vast majority of buildings in the region were constructed before then. Ian Madin, who directs the Oregon Department of Geology and Mineral Industries (DOGAMI), estimates that seventy-five per cent of all structures in the state are not designed to withstand a major Cascadia quake. FEMA calculates that, across the region, something on the order of a million buildings—more than three thousand of them schools—will collapse or be compromised in the earthquake. So will half of all highway bridges, fifteen of the seventeen bridges spanning Portland’s two rivers, and two-thirds of railways and airports; also, one-third of all fire stations, half of all police stations, and two-thirds of all hospitals.

Certain disasters stem from many small problems conspiring to cause one very large problem. For want of a nail, the war was lost; for fifteen independently insignificant errors, the jetliner was lost. Subduction-zone earthquakes operate on the opposite principle: one enormous problem causes many other enormous problems. The shaking from the Cascadia quake will set off landslides throughout the region—up to thirty thousand of them in Seattle alone, the city’s emergency-management office estimates. It will also induce a process called liquefaction, whereby seemingly solid ground starts behaving like a liquid, to the detriment of anything on top of it. Fifteen per cent of Seattle is built on liquefiable land, including seventeen day-care centers and the homes of some thirty-four thousand five hundred people. So is Oregon’s critical energy-infrastructure hub, a six-mile stretch of Portland through which flows ninety per cent of the state’s liquid fuel and which houses everything from electrical substations to natural-gas terminals. Together, the sloshing, sliding, and shaking will trigger fires, flooding, pipe failures, dam breaches, and hazardous-material spills. Any one of these second-order disasters could swamp the original earthquake in terms of cost, damage, or casualties—and one of them definitely will. Four to six minutes after the dogs start barking, the shaking will subside. For another few minutes, the region, upended, will continue to fall apart on its own. Then the wave will arrive, and the real destruction will begin.

http://projectavalon.net/Cascadia_Subduction_Zone/9.jpg

Among natural disasters, tsunamis may be the closest to being completely unsurvivable. The only likely way to outlive one is not to be there when it happens: to steer clear of the vulnerable area in the first place, or get yourself to high ground as fast as possible. For the seventy-one thousand people who live in Cascadia’s inundation zone, that will mean evacuating in the narrow window after one disaster ends and before another begins. They will be notified to do so only by the earthquake itself—“a vibrate-alert system,” Kevin Cupples, the city planner for the town of Seaside, Oregon, jokes—and they are urged to leave on foot, since the earthquake will render roads impassable. Depending on location, they will have between ten and thirty minutes to get out. That time line does not allow for finding a flashlight, tending to an earthquake injury, hesitating amid the ruins of a home, searching for loved ones, or being a Good Samaritan. “When that tsunami is coming, you run,” Jay Wilson, the chair of the Oregon Seismic Safety Policy Advisory Commission (OSSPAC), says. “You protect yourself, you don’t turn around, you don’t go back to save anybody. You run for your life.”

The time to save people from a tsunami is before it happens, but the region has not yet taken serious steps toward doing so. Hotels and businesses are not required to post evacuation routes or to provide employees with evacuation training. In Oregon, it has been illegal since 1995 to build hospitals, schools, firehouses, and police stations in the inundation zone, but those which are already in it can stay, and any other new construction is permissible: energy facilities, hotels, retirement homes. In those cases, builders are required only to consult with DOGAMI about evacuation plans. “So you come in and sit down,” Ian Madin says. “And I say, ‘That’s a stupid idea.’ And you say, ‘Thanks. Now we’ve consulted.’ ”

These lax safety policies guarantee that many people inside the inundation zone will not get out. Twenty-two per cent of Oregon’s coastal population is sixty-five or older. Twenty-nine per cent of the state’s population is disabled, and that figure rises in many coastal counties. “We can’t save them,” Kevin Cupples says. “I’m not going to sugarcoat it and say, ‘Oh, yeah, we’ll go around and check on the elderly.’ No. We won’t.” Nor will anyone save the tourists. Washington State Park properties within the inundation zone see an average of seventeen thousand and twenty-nine guests a day. Madin estimates that up to a hundred and fifty thousand people visit Oregon’s beaches on summer weekends. “Most of them won’t have a clue as to how to evacuate,” he says. “And the beaches are the hardest place to evacuate from.”

Those who cannot get out of the inundation zone under their own power will quickly be overtaken by a greater one. A grown man is knocked over by ankle-deep water moving at 6.7 miles an hour. The tsunami will be moving more than twice that fast when it arrives. Its height will vary with the contours of the coast, from twenty feet to more than a hundred feet. It will not look like a Hokusai-style wave, rising up from the surface of the sea and breaking from above. It will look like the whole ocean, elevated, overtaking land. Nor will it be made only of water—not once it reaches the shore. It will be a five-story deluge of pickup trucks and doorframes and cinder blocks and fishing boats and utility poles and everything else that once constituted the coastal towns of the Pacific Northwest.

To see the full scale of the devastation when that tsunami recedes, you would need to be in the international space station. The inundation zone will be scoured of structures from California to Canada. The earthquake will have wrought its worst havoc west of the Cascades but caused damage as far away as Sacramento, California—as distant from the worst-hit areas as Fort Wayne, Indiana, is from New York. FEMA expects to coördinate search-and-rescue operations across a hundred thousand square miles and in the waters off four hundred and fifty-three miles of coastline. As for casualties: the figures I cited earlier—twenty-seven thousand injured, almost thirteen thousand dead—are based on the agency’s official planning scenario, which has the earthquake striking at 9:41 A.M. on February 6th. If, instead, it strikes in the summer, when the beaches are full, those numbers could be off by a horrifying margin.
Wineglasses, antique vases, Humpty Dumpty, hip bones, hearts: what breaks quickly generally mends slowly, if at all. OSSPAC estimates that in the I-5 corridor it will take between one and three months after the earthquake to restore electricity, a month to a year to restore drinking water and sewer service, six months to a year to restore major highways, and eighteen months to restore health-care facilities. On the coast, those numbers go up. Whoever chooses or has no choice but to stay there will spend three to six months without electricity, one to three years without drinking water and sewage systems, and three or more years without hospitals. Those estimates do not apply to the tsunami-inundation zone, which will remain all but uninhabitable for years.

How much all this will cost is anyone’s guess; FEMA puts every number on its relief-and-recovery plan except a price. But whatever the ultimate figure—and even though U.S. taxpayers will cover seventy-five to a hundred per cent of the damage, as happens in declared disasters—the economy of the Pacific Northwest will collapse. Crippled by a lack of basic services, businesses will fail or move away. Many residents will flee as well. OSSPAC predicts a mass-displacement event and a long-term population downturn. Chris Goldfinger didn’t want to be there when it happened. But, by many metrics, it will be as bad or worse to be there afterward.

There you have it. This is serious stuff. What took place today in the Cascadia Subduction Zone must be paid attention to. Your life may literally depend on it.

[lucidity]

I just love the emotional apex it reaches at the end, it's so funny.



This is serious stuff. What took place today in the Cascadia Subduction Zone must be paid attention to. Your life may literally depend on it.


LOL ... It's hysterical.
It's just routine disaster porn.

No one will die.
No continents will fall into the sea...
Maybe a crack will appear in a road surface somewhere.. maybe a minor tremor... maybe.

If this story is isn't a hoax, then it's probably just a measurement error.

be happy

lucidity

[Rocky_Shorz]

I always check DutchSinse for accurate Earthquake predictions...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93LzNi7Icg

he sounds more worried about the east coast and midwest

at 9 minutes in he does point out a BC to Washington Quake is expected...

[Bill Ryan]

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Actually, this is a scary-dramatic but well-written article. I've just read the entire thing (it's long!), and it held my interest to the end. I learned stuff, too. (Might be easier to read on its source page, http://superstation95.com/index.php/world/779, which is punctuated by useful diagrams.)

These major events can, do, and will happen. The last one in that area was in January 1700, and we're currently 316 years into a 243-year [average] cycle. That means that the next event is overdue.

[Bob]

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Actually, this is a scary-dramatic but well-written, scientifically-founded article. I've just read the entire thing (it's long!), and it held my interest to the end. I learned stuff, too. (Might be easier to read on its source page, http://superstation95.com/index.php/world/779, which is punctuated by useful diagrams.)

These major events can, do, and will happen. The last one in that area was in January 1700, and we're currently 316 years into a 243-year [average] cycle. That means that the next event is overdue. And the buoy that suddenly dropped does mean something... this isn't invented nonsense.

What happens in Ecuador, and northward on the ring of fire (which is why I am monitoring so closely the Ecuadorian volcano activity), shows what is "ringing". Tracking to solar activity, one gets an idea if larger quakes could happen on the north central and south American pacific shores.

[Hervé]

The buoy is too far away from shore to be affected by high/low tide, so where did the four feet of ocean water disappear to? No tides, eh!

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_dart.php?station=46404&uom=M&width=400&height=220&start=20160114000000&end=20160118235959

Above from this page: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46404 which seems to give indications that said station has had some troubles with its water column measurements :)

Here is how these stations work (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-ocean_Assessment_and_Reporting_of_Tsunamis):


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/DART_II_System_Diagram.jpg


... maybe some unfortunate whale or a Chinese submarine caught on that 75 meter line and dragged the station up a 4-foot pedestal?

Sounds like a call for research financing and/or grant $$! (see this webpage: La Palma Tsunami: The mega-hyped tidal wave story (http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/notes.html) ) since the article main assumption is this one:


When the tectonic plate snaps back upward, it can launch that entire 8985 foot column of water upward and toward the shore!

[ghostrider]

The ocean floor sank\cracked ... The entire plate will move , hence a huge seaquake 9.0 lasting five minutes creating a ring shaped tsunami is on the way any day , long overdue...

[Hym]

DutchSinse, as a very skeptical researcher, is a very good educator. He is one of a valuable and ever increasing number of independent researchers who show us how we can investigate, step by step, scientific assumption by accepted "fact" and possibly come up with some important truths.

He began by investigating the manipulation of weather in the states, then worldwide, by artificial means of HAARP. From my memory of reading his journey, he began investigating because he thought the idea of weather manipulation was ridiculous and completely made out of conspiracy nonsense, thus not based on science. His insights and proofs saved lives by showing how some weather manipulations would cause severe storms in the next day or two from the appearance of unnatural geometric shapes, circles then rectangles, within the weather videos available from weather sites on the net.

Then, he branched out. His initial skepticism, then, and his skepticism to this day, is one of his greatest strengths. I would also note that it is the support he receives from those skeptics, who walk the journey with him and then take it out into their daily lives, that keeps us learning. There are some within eyesight of this thread who would do well by us all by taking that research passion for the truth into their own field of study and educating us also. Thank You, Professor DS ! Much Love Indeed!!!!!

[DeDukshyn]

I just love the emotional apex it reaches at the end, it's so funny.



This is serious stuff. What took place today in the Cascadia Subduction Zone must be paid attention to. Your life may literally depend on it.


LOL ... It's hysterical.
It's just routine disaster porn.

No one will die.
No continents will fall into the sea...
Maybe a crack will appear in a road surface somewhere.. maybe a minor tremor... maybe.

If this story is isn't a hoax, then it's probably just a measurement error.

be happy

lucidity

The main point being ... Even if the "Big one" does strike, no one can do anything about it. So even predicting 'the big one" by 2 or three days, will do nothing to help the overall situation.

[Valley]

Any 'stories', these days, that are clearly trying to put folks into a state of fear or panic (like this article)... Is automatically a suspect for some kind of 'mind-manipulation game'. This is definitely not an unbiased report, when they use words like "your life may depend on it" and go into so much disaster visualizations.

I see that these kinds of 'fear-inducing' stories are quite common now these days... as the 'powers that were' are 'grasping at straws', as they feel their whole power-structure crumbling into the rising consciousness of the People (Us).

[ghostrider]

Hopefully those in San Francisco will hear loud and clear , it's time to move away from danger. .. the more the big prophecies fufill , the more people should get up to speed on events yet to come and be better prepared ... we have blueprints for the future written down to help us see the truth ... a future viewing showed the 9.0 sea quake , and also the entire city of San Francisco completely destroyed ... 2 big world changing events are on the horizon ...

[Heartsong]

Still don't understand how they figure a Tsunami is going to come inland 50 miles. There is the Coast Range with peaks in the 2,000 and 3,000 ft elevation between the pacific shoreline and the Willamette Valley .

[Curiosity]

I'm in northern Ca in the pacific coast Mtn at 3,000 feet above the Redwoods, Avenue Of The Giants. Just a few miles east of me the mountains go up to 5,200 feet. There is another range of mountains between here and hwy 101 that is over 4,000 feet. Between here and I-5 there is two more mountain ranges equally high with valleys in-between everywhere. I just don't see any thing getting to far passed hwy 101 into the pacific coast mountains except up the river channels.

With any luck it wont happen tomorrow because I will be traveling as far north as Arcata from the redwoods and back. I'll be praying it waits till I get back in the mountains.

[Heartsong]

They announced on the Portland, OR TV news that the whole thing was a hoax. Yes, Tsunami's are a concern, Earthquakes are a concern. But no buoy dropped 4 feet and if it did it wouldn't be significant.

[Bob]

They announced on the Portland, OR TV news that the whole thing was a hoax. Yes, Tsunami's are a concern, Earthquakes are a concern. But no buoy dropped 4 feet and if it did it wouldn't be significant.

Do you have that link, I couldn't find it on a search.



I found this from KOIN (http://koin.com/2016/01/18/nws-buoy-event-off-oregon-coast-a-non-event/) news which may be the station you heard from?


PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — A web report about an impending earthquake and tsunami in the Pacific Northwest is alarming Oregonians and causing a frenzy online.

Despite the thousands of shares and retweets the article has received, the National Weather Service wants people to know the information is misleading and there’s nothing to worry about.

The article “US West Coast Earthquake Warning as Cascadia Subduction Zone Surges” posted on the website SuperStation95 claims a data buoy in the Cascadia Subduction Zone recorded a sharp drop in water depth on Monday.

“According to the data buoy, the water column height (depth) fell sharply within minutes off the coast of Oregon, signaling the land beneath the ocean has suddenly ‘sunk,'” the article states.

It went on to say that this type of event is usually followed by a massive earthquake.

But the National Weather Service says not only are these drops normal — happening many times a day — this particular one was only 1 meter, or about 3 feet.

So it is not really a HOAX, but the data said the water column height fell.. HOW it was interpreted was in error. (LACK of proper EDUCATION apparently not understanding data reports.. , the lack of education issue is something that I harp on frequently)

For those interested in researching the various Buoy's in the Network, reporting stations, go here:
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/maps/Northwest.shtml

each buoy has a historical record and one can check through those records to see on the date(s) in question what the original data was.


http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/images/maps/NorthWest.gif

As to a change in apparent water column, there were periods of high wave (and low trough) values -

some examples from buoy (http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/realtime2/46015.spec)

Steep waves were indicated:
2016 01 13 at 07 00AM 7.3 meters height (almost 24 feet high)

Where normal wave action was typically 2.3-4 meters over the days surrounding the peak event.

For the buoy in question - the historical mean is listed here:
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/realtime2/46404.dart

Posted Data for the 17th for the full day -

YEAR Month day - Time (HR Min Sec) - Sampling Period - Water Column Height (Meters)
2016 01 17 23 45 00 1 2738.068
2016 01 17 23 30 00 1 2737.996
2016 01 17 23 15 00 1 2737.911
2016 01 17 23 00 00 1 2737.828
2016 01 17 22 45 00 1 2737.749
2016 01 17 22 30 00 1 2737.676
2016 01 17 22 15 00 1 2737.619
2016 01 17 22 00 00 1 2737.556
2016 01 17 21 45 00 1 2737.521
2016 01 17 21 30 00 1 2737.483
2016 01 17 21 15 00 1 2737.459
2016 01 17 21 00 00 1 2737.449
2016 01 17 20 45 00 1 2737.444
2016 01 17 20 30 00 1 2737.452
2016 01 17 20 15 00 1 2737.474
2016 01 17 20 00 00 1 2737.509
2016 01 17 19 45 00 1 2737.558
2016 01 17 19 30 00 1 2737.612
2016 01 17 19 15 00 1 2737.681
2016 01 17 19 00 00 1 2737.758
2016 01 17 18 45 00 1 2737.845
2016 01 17 18 30 00 1 2737.940
2016 01 17 18 15 00 1 2738.054
2016 01 17 18 00 00 1 2738.158
2016 01 17 17 45 00 1 2738.270
2016 01 17 17 30 00 1 2738.386
2016 01 17 17 15 00 1 2738.501
2016 01 17 17 00 00 1 2738.618
2016 01 17 16 45 00 1 2738.730
2016 01 17 16 30 00 1 2738.844
2016 01 17 16 15 00 1 2738.954
2016 01 17 16 00 00 1 2739.062
2016 01 17 15 45 00 1 2739.141
2016 01 17 15 30 00 1 2739.215
2016 01 17 15 15 00 1 2739.286
2016 01 17 15 00 00 1 2739.342
2016 01 17 14 45 00 1 2739.390
2016 01 17 14 30 00 1 2739.407
2016 01 17 14 15 00 1 2739.443
2016 01 17 14 00 00 1 2739.451
2016 01 17 13 45 00 1 2739.441
2016 01 17 13 30 00 1 2739.423
2016 01 17 13 15 00 1 2739.375
2016 01 17 13 00 00 1 2739.326
2016 01 17 12 45 00 1 2739.273
2016 01 17 12 30 00 1 2739.198
2016 01 17 12 15 00 1 2739.122
2016 01 17 12 00 00 1 2739.034
2016 01 17 11 45 00 1 2738.936
2016 01 17 11 30 00 1 2738.835
2016 01 17 11 15 00 1 2738.726
2016 01 17 11 00 00 1 2738.617
2016 01 17 10 45 00 1 2738.498
2016 01 17 10 30 00 1 2738.385
2016 01 17 10 15 00 1 2738.283
2016 01 17 10 00 00 1 2738.163
2016 01 17 09 45 00 1 2738.060
2016 01 17 09 30 00 1 2737.950
2016 01 17 09 15 00 1 2737.860
2016 01 17 09 00 00 1 2737.777
2016 01 17 08 45 00 1 2737.714
2016 01 17 08 30 00 1 2737.650
2016 01 17 08 15 00 1 2737.604
2016 01 17 08 00 00 1 2737.549
2016 01 17 07 45 00 1 2737.524
2016 01 17 07 30 00 1 2737.510
2016 01 17 07 15 00 1 2737.506
2016 01 17 07 00 00 1 2737.507
2016 01 17 06 45 00 1 2737.526
2016 01 17 06 30 00 1 2737.566
2016 01 17 06 15 00 1 2737.611
2016 01 17 05 59 00 2 2737.666
2016 01 17 05 58 00 2 2737.646
2016 01 17 05 57 00 2 2737.673
2016 01 17 05 56 00 2 2737.678
2016 01 17 05 55 00 2 2737.663
2016 01 17 05 54 00 2 2737.676
2016 01 17 05 53 00 2 2737.673
2016 01 17 05 52 00 2 2737.685
2016 01 17 05 51 00 2 2737.684
2016 01 17 05 50 00 2 2737.687
2016 01 17 05 49 00 2 2737.697
2016 01 17 05 48 00 2 2737.708
2016 01 17 05 47 00 2 2737.705
2016 01 17 05 46 00 2 2737.704
2016 01 17 05 45 00 2 2737.704
2016 01 17 05 44 00 2 2737.720
2016 01 17 05 43 00 2 2737.722
2016 01 17 05 42 00 2 2737.725
2016 01 17 05 41 00 2 2737.728
2016 01 17 05 40 00 2 2737.734
2016 01 17 05 39 00 2 2737.737
2016 01 17 05 38 00 2 2737.743
2016 01 17 05 37 00 2 2737.751
2016 01 17 05 36 00 2 2737.758
2016 01 17 05 35 00 2 2737.754
2016 01 17 05 34 00 2 2737.758
2016 01 17 05 33 00 2 2737.764
2016 01 17 05 32 00 2 2737.772
2016 01 17 05 31 00 2 2737.768
2016 01 17 05 30 00 2 2737.778
2016 01 17 05 29 00 2 2737.790
2016 01 17 05 28 00 2 2737.785
2016 01 17 05 27 00 2 2737.793
2016 01 17 05 26 00 2 2737.797
2016 01 17 05 25 00 2 2737.791
2016 01 17 05 24 00 2 2737.810
2016 01 17 05 23 00 2 2737.816
2016 01 17 05 22 00 2 2737.815
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2016 01 17 02 34 00 2 2738.677
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2016 01 17 02 33 30 3 2738.673
2016 01 17 02 33 15 3 2738.677
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2016 01 17 02 31 30 3 2738.730
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2016 01 17 01 45 00 1 2738.790
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2016 01 17 01 43 00 2 2738.811
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2016 01 17 01 40 00 2 2738.811
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2016 01 17 01 37 00 2 2738.817
2016 01 17 01 36 00 2 2738.812
2016 01 17 01 35 00 2 2738.789
2016 01 17 01 34 00 2 2738.812
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2016 01 17 01 32 00 2 2738.807
2016 01 17 01 31 00 2 2738.808
2016 01 17 01 30 00 2 2738.813
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2016 01 17 01 29 00 2 2738.815
2016 01 17 01 28 00 2 2738.813
2016 01 17 01 27 00 2 2738.802
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2016 01 17 01 25 00 2 2738.805
2016 01 17 01 24 00 2 2738.815
2016 01 17 01 23 00 2 2738.815
2016 01 17 01 22 00 2 2738.807
2016 01 17 01 21 00 2 2738.806
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2016 01 17 01 19 00 2 2738.806
2016 01 17 01 18 00 2 2738.803
2016 01 17 01 17 00 2 2738.809
2016 01 17 01 16 00 2 2738.803
2016 01 17 01 15 00 2 2738.811
2016 01 17 01 15 00 1 2738.810
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2016 01 17 01 09 00 2 2738.801
2016 01 17 01 08 00 2 2738.811
2016 01 17 01 07 00 2 2738.802
2016 01 17 01 06 00 2 2738.803
2016 01 17 01 05 00 2 2738.806
2016 01 17 01 04 00 2 2738.795
2016 01 17 01 03 00 2 2738.792
2016 01 17 01 02 00 2 2738.796
2016 01 17 01 01 00 2 2738.786
2016 01 17 01 00 00 2 2738.801
2016 01 17 01 00 00 1 2738.802
2016 01 17 00 45 00 1 2738.780
2016 01 17 00 30 00 1 2738.726
2016 01 17 00 15 00 1 2738.677
2016 01 17 00 00 00 1 2738.636

If we take the highest HIGH on the 17th and the lowest LOW on the 17th and compute the range of tidal (assuming it is tidal) swing and not a situation of HIGH SWELLS in the area at that time of high high and low low...

2739.451 peak high water column at 1400 time
2737.444 peak low water column at 2045 time

Column length change through-out the day: 2.007 meters or 6.584 feet

My feeling would be ocean swells.

A comment from the recording service says, that data should be averaged, is used for weather prediction although some look at the data for potential TSUMANI reporting..


Data for last 5 days:These real time data have undergone gross error checking only. Please use with discretion.

Real time water column height (Tsunami) (DART) data and their description.

Data for last 45 days:These real time data have undergone gross error checking only. Please use with discretion.

Real time water column height (Tsunami) (DART) data and their description.

For the recording interval - significance of the NUMBERS 1, 2, 3
Measurement Type:
1 = 15-minute measurement;
2 = 1-minute measurement; and
3 = 15-second measurement.

[justntime2learn]

I't's very difficult for me to listen to or trust MSM as I have been lied to so many times I can't trust a thing they say. ( fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice...)

Here is just one quote from the article I posted: " This type of event is usually followed by a massive upward movement of the North American Plate causing a very severe earthquake."

KGW:"The article said the drop indicated the “earth sunk” and the tectonic plate will soon snap “back upward,” resulting in a catastrophic earthquake."

Article says "usually" and KGW says the article says "will soon snap back"

Who to believe when It's all word salad ?

PORTLAND, Ore. – An article predicting an imminent Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake is a hoax, according to a Portland State University geologist.

The article was published Sunday and has circulated widely on Facebook and Twitter, prompting many KGW viewers to ask whether the information is credible.

The article, published by Superstation95.com, says an ocean data buoy detected a sudden drop in water depth off Oregon’s west coast. The article said the drop indicated the “earth sunk” and the tectonic plate will soon snap “back upward,” resulting in a catastrophic earthquake.

While there is a chance a Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake will strike along the Juan de Fuca plate, scientists say there is no evidence that the process has begun.

KGW talked with Scott Burns, a geologist with PSU. Burns said he confirmed with the National Weather Service that the article was a hoax, and the weather service debunked the article.

The National Weather Service tweeted that tides naturally change water column height each day.

Link:http://www.kgw.com/news/local/geologist-debunks-nw-earthquake-article/18328115

Also, local MSM has been reporting to be prepare for the big one and how to be ready for weeks now. Hmmm

[Hervé]

Here is where the switcheroo occurred (someone misreading graphs)as well as the source of the confusion that ensued:


As of 0231:30, the initial water column height is 2738.80 Meters deep (8985.56 feet). Two minutes and thirty seconds later, that same water column height had dropped to 2738.66 Meters deep (8985.10 feet). Where did the four inches of water disappear to? Answer: The earth sunk; and continued to sink for the next several HOURS.See?

The data are not indicating a depth from a computed average sea surface, the data record the height of the water column above the ocean floor station (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88280-US-West-Coast-Earthquake-Warning-as-Cascadia-Subduction-Zone-Surges&p=1038821&viewfull=1#post1038821) (converted from the measured pressure of said water column (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-ocean_Assessment_and_Reporting_of_Tsunamis)). All the graphs in this thread show that it is the Water Column Height that is recorded and graphed.

The water column height diminished ("dropped") from 2738.80 Meters deep (8985.56 feet) to 2738.66 Meters deep (8985.10 feet) indicating that either the station rose by 4 feet or the ocean above dimpled by 4 feet... could have been a waterspout... or else the station's manometers went berserk...

[Valley]

Clearly, the water height/depth measurement is a completely different thing than the elevation of the ocean floor... Just because the water depth changes, it doesn't mean that the ocean floor elevation has changed. Not very good logic in that original article... but there sure was plenty of 'doomsday' talk. These kinds of stories are released on a regular basis these days, are easy to spot, and seem to be getting even 'flimsier' as they go. : )

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Even if the worst of worst did happen eventually, one day (hopefully far in the future if ever at all), FEMA's predictions and calculations are a bit optimistic.

In one breath they say "[we] project that nearly thirteen thousand people will die in the Cascadia earthquake and tsunami...Another twenty-seven thousand will be injured."


Then, "...across the region, something on the order of a million buildings—more than three thousand of them schools—will collapse or be compromised in the earthquake. So will half of all highway bridges, fifteen of the seventeen bridges spanning Portland’s two rivers, and two-thirds of railways and airports; also, one-third of all fire stations, half of all police stations, and two-thirds of all hospitals."

It does go on to say that the figures are based on the agency’s official 'planning scenario', and that it could be a lot worse if the event took place during a favourable time of year, ie not in summer, and during the daytime.

Even so, thirteen-thousand seems a tad off. I hope it is in fact off by exactly thirteen-thousand, that casualties will be zero, and this quake never happens.

[Hervé]

The time line that lead to that article about everyone in the alt media is repeating the obvious misinterpretation (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88280-US-West-Coast-Earthquake-Warning-as-Cascadia-Subduction-Zone-Surges&p=1039068&viewfull=1#post1039068) (ocean floor "dropped"):

January 16,2016:

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Pacific Beach, WA mini tsunami / rogue wave January 16, 2016.



... then a "4-foot drop" of the water column is found in NOAA's records for January 17, 2016...


... and the OP article followed on January 17, 2016.


With the rogue wave and that alarmist article, insurance companies are now probably very busy selling their coverage...

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

I'm bumping this thread after an interesting conversation today with a very perceptive and psychic friend in Oregon, who says that her intuition is 'screaming' at her that a major Cascadia Subduction Zone event is 'imminent'.

I asked her what 'imminent' meant, and she said 'some time in the next several months'.

Three days ago (17 April, 2016) Oregon Governor Kate Brown published a formal 'Be prepared, not scared' video, here (recommending that all Oregonians have food and water for two weeks)...

http://statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2016/04/17/prepared-not-scared/82730536

...and, interestingly, a planned major emergency drill has been brought forward from August to early June.

Here's an official (rather dramatic!) image:

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9065941e142eb769bb76794c742e08d1e14ee558/r=300/http/www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/9065941e142eb769bb76794c742e08d1e14ee558/r=300/http/www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/3681baa18b8c9ae5d352ea393abde66263a334c2/c=478-119-1159-800/local/-/media/2016/04/16/Salem/Salem/635964428024596023-big-white-logo.jpg

The Ring of Fire is really very active at the moment: the latest major earthquake was 7.8, on the Northern Ecuador coast, a few days ago. (That's big.)

To anyone living in Oregon and who might be affected by this: what are you hearing / sensing / intuiting? This is not a scaremongering post... just a request for the pooling and sharing of a bit more information.

[observer]

Fox News broadcast this news segment in July of 2015. It's not just Oregon, it's anywhere along the Juan de Fuca/North American Plate Subduction Zone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jB6G08Qgmg

[kerrielea]

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-shaking-continues-there-is-great-reason-for-concern-over-recent-earthquakes-and-volcanic-eruptions_04202016

The Shaking Continues: “There is Great Reason For Concern” Over Recent Earthquakes and Volcanic Eruptions

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/shaking-continues.jpg
The Shaking Continues: The Most Dangerous Volcano In Mexico Has Erupted In Spectacular Fashion

More than 25 million people live in the vicinity of Mt. Popocatepetl, including Mexico City’s 18 million residents. At 2:32 local time on Tuesday morning, the most dangerous volcano in Mexico roared to life in spectacular fashion, and this has many experts extremely concerned about what is coming next. Popocatepetl is an Aztec word that means “smoking mountain”, and historians tell us that once upon a time entire Aztec cities were buried in super-heated mud from this volcano. In fact, the super-heated mud flows were so deep that they buried entire Aztec pyramids. A full-blown eruption of Mt. Popocatepetl would be a catastrophe unlike anything that modern Mexico has ever experienced before, and considering what has been happening in Ecuador (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/17/americas/ecuador-deadly-earthquake/), Japan (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/dozens-of-large-earthquakes-strike-as-speculation-mounts-that-japans-southern-island-may-be-splitting) and at Yellowstone (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/yellowstone-eruption-in-2016-shocking-new-video-shows-what-is-really-going-on-at-yellowstone) over the past week, I believe that there is great reason for concern.

The eruption of Mt. Popocatepetl very early this morning took residents of the area very much by surprise. The following is how one Mexican news course reported the news (http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/ash-blankets-puebla-and-closes-airport/)…



The volcano Popocatépetl came to life at 2:32 this morning, sending out a column of ash that fell on much of the city of Puebla and closed the airport.

The National Disaster Prevention Center, Cenapred, said the volcano spewed ash to an altitude of about three kilometers above the crater.

The explosion was accompanied by the emission of incandescent fragments which were reported to be landing up to 1.6 kilometers away, northeast of the volcano, which is commonly known as El Popo.
But words cannot really describe just how spectacular this eruption was. If you are interested, you can view video footage of the moment when Popocatepetl erupted right here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEc5DeS9DE)…

Meanwhile, seismologists all over the globe are speculating about which area of our planet may be hit next.

For example, scientists in India believe that the tremendous amount of tectonic strain that has built up out there could ultimately produce a magnitude 8 or magnitude 9 earthquake, and they are convinced that this quake “can come at any time” (http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/ecuador-earthquake-a-megathrust-is-brewing-in-india-say-experts-2759957/)…



A subduction process similar to the one that caused the Ecuadorean quake is happening under the Himalayan region as well, where the Indian plate is getting inside the Chinese landmass.

This northward push has been creating a huge amount of tectonic strain in the region, making it particularly prone to earthquakes.

Scientists believe there is so much energy stored in the area that an earthquake of magnitude greater than 8, possibly even 9, would be needed to release it. This earthquake can come at any time.
Here in the United States, some experts are deeply concerned that the west coast is particularly vulnerable. One of those experts is former USGS scientist Jim Berkland. The following is what Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland) has to say about him…



Jim Berkland studied geology at the University of California, Berkeley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley) earning the Bachelor of Arts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) degree in 1958. Thereafter he worked for the United States Geological Survey while pursuing graduate study. In 1964, he took a position at the United States Bureau of Reclamation.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland#cite_note-3) After further graduate study, he taught for a year at Appalachian State University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_State_University), 1972–1973, then returned to California to work as County Geologist for Santa Clara County from 1973 until he retired in 1994.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Berkland#cite_note-4)
During a recent interview with Bobby Powell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZFc3xLSjQ), Berkland explained that most “megaquakes” take place either during a new moon or a full moon, and he pointed to the San Andreas Fault and the Cascadia Subduction Zone as areas that he is particularly concerned about at the moment…



Is “The Big One” imminent? Famed USGS scientist Jim Berkland, the man who predicted the Loma Prieta “World Series Earthquake,” has a terrifying warning for the West Coast of the US in the wake of massive earthquakes in Ecuador and Japan that have left hundreds dead, awakened volcanoes around the Pacific Ocean’s “Ring of Fire,” and kicked off earthquake swarms in Hawaii, Arizona, and Yellowstone National Park.

“Beware the new and full moons,” Berkland says in this exclusive interview. The “maverick geologist” says that 20 of the last 25 “megaquakes” have occurred on the dates of new and full moons, the result of “equinoctal tides,” extreme gravitational forces that cause solid earth to expand and contract much as ocean tides rise and fall.

Berkland says that he is particularly worried about the San Andreas Fault in the LA Basin and the Cascadia Subduction Zone along the coast of Oregon and Washington State, where a long overdue earthquake would undoubtedly be accompanied by a massive tsunami that could kill thousands and cause billions of dollars in property damage.
Even though I recently wrote a major article about the vulnerability of the Cascadia Subduction Zone (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/coming-soon-this-is-what-would-happen-if-a-9-0-earthquake-hit-the-cascadia-subduction-zone), I want to make it clear that I am not forecasting that any particular disaster will hit any particular area at any particular time.

But what we can say with certainty is that the crust of our planet is becoming increasingly unstable. Our world is being pummeled by dozens of earthquakes of magnitude 4.0 or greater, and as you read this article a total of 38 volcanoes are erupting worldwide.

And it is quite interesting to note that in 1906 there were major earthquakes in Ecuador and Japan that preceded the historic San Francisco earthquake.

On January 31st, 1906 an enormous magnitude 8.8 earthquake hit Ecuador (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_Ecuador%E2%80%93Colombia_earthquake), and that was followed by a magnitude 7.1 earthquake in Japan on March 17th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_Meishan_earthquake).

Of course most Americans have already heard about the magnitude 7.8 earthquake that hit San Francisco on April 18th of that year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake), but most people don’t understand that it came in the context of these other major quakes.

Could we be witnessing a similar pattern today?

In Matthew 24, Jesus warned us that earthquakes in diverse places would be one of the signs that His return was drawing near (http://amzn.to/26e2QDC). He also explained that the time immediately preceding His return would be the worst time in all of human history.

Could it be possible that we are now entering that period of time?

[KiwiElf]

Yes, In a nutshell, Mt. Popocatepetl erupting like this straight after the Japan & Equador Earthquakes should be a major wake-up call. It is right on the San Andreas faultline.

[Bill Ryan]

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This very interesting new video from Durchsinse explains a LOT. He's convinced, and explains in detail why, that geophysicists' statements that major earthquakes located great distances from one another are unrelated, are entirely wrong.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Q6YaZ4Ufc

[observer]

Am I the only one who sees this connection?

Cross-posting a comment from another thread:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gcvnvr-cbg

Move the timer over to 17 min: 45 sec. mark; listen to what Dr. Farrell has to say about counter-rotational magnetic fields being produced at CERN that are 15,000 times stronger than the local magnetic field strength of the Earth !!! He goes on to say, "it's possible you have a machine that is manipulating magnetic fields on a planetary scale that has nothing to do with particle physics".

What's happening on a global basis.... no, on a solar system basis.... rather, on a galactic basis, all converges-back on CERN. These Reptilian Monsters are fu<king with magnetic fields so powerful, that they are able to create solar conditions which are causing the entire planet to erupt!!! This is all by design. This is all a long term agenda, which they've been building-up to for the past 50 years!!!

Doesn't anyone get it? CERN has nothing to do with particle physics. That's all smoke-and-mirrors. CERN is an Extinction Machine, and all systems are designed to conceal that fact....

[TeXaR]

No, observer, you're not the only one who sees this connection.

From Dutchsinse's facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/dutchsinseofficial/posts/574388562728288



Dutchsinse

April 15 at 11:11pm ·
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CERN pumping high power beams again at same time the large earthquakes begin striking.

At the same time they're pumping TeV of power via high power microwave beams ( the beams translate to power which ultimately goes to ground - ground being the Earth's core).... we see swarms of large earthquakes strike globally.

Coincidence yet again? This is now the 5th time since we've been keeping official track.

I'm getting a bit "conCERNed" at this point. So are other people who are paying attention to the connection between CERN operations and large earthquake + volcanic activity.

[kerrielea]

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[Nick Matkin]

I can't find any confirmation of Russian troop movements due to expected 'global catastrophe'.

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Bill Ryan]

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The FEMA disaster drill that's been brought forward from August to June:

From http://fema.gov/cascadia-rising-2016

Cascadia Rising 2016


http://clallamares.org/images/CSZ_M.jpg

A 9.0 magnitude earthquake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone (CSZ) and the resulting tsunami is the most complex disaster scenario that emergency management and public safety officials in the Pacific Northwest could face. Cascadia Rising is an exercise to address that disaster.

June 7-10, 2016 Emergency Operations and Coordination Centers (EOC/ECCs) at all levels of government and the private sector will activate to conduct a simulated field response operation within their jurisdictions and with neighboring communities, state EOCs, FEMA, and major military commands.

Conducting successful life-saving and life-sustaining response operations in the aftermath of a Cascadia Subduction Zone disaster will hinge on the effective coordination and integration of governments at all levels – cities, counties, state agencies, federal officials, the military, tribal nations – as well as non-government organizations and the private sector. One of the primary goals of Cascadia Rising is to train and test this whole community approach to complex disaster operations together as a joint team.

Recent subduction zone earthquakes around the world underscore the catastrophic impacts we will face when the next CSZ earthquake and tsunami occurs in our region:


Indonesia (2004): M9.1 --- 228,000 fatalities
Chile (2010): M8.8 --- 500 fatalities
Japan (2011): M9.0 --- 18,000 fatalities


http://allnewspipeline.com/images/map_cascadia_subduction_zone_medium.jpg

The Cascadia Subduction Zone off the coast of North America spans from northern California to southern British Columbia. This subduction zone can produce earthquakes as large as magnitude 9 and corresponding tsunamis. Scientific evidence indicates that a magnitude 8.0-9.0 earthquake occurs along the 800-mile long fault on average once every 200 to 500 years. The last major earthquake and tsunami along the fault occurred over 300 years ago in 1700. (Download Image (https://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/images/115834))

[Bob]

Hia Bill - I've had discussions with first responders on various levels.. The issue still is lack of coordination, and who will be the "ruling agency" that will take over.. , And will the local responders fully comply when someone who has no LOCAL experience comes in to dictate "what will be done by the book.." I've been a first responder myself back in the 1970 era from the emergency search and rescue.. watched the "drills", and the scuttlebutt/splashback.. Nobody being in the same radio frequency band, outdated equipment.. Then the "plan" afterwards, who will take over..

The Fort McMurray fires can be a micro-example of what one may expect - evacuation, as no doubt there will be fires during a 'cascadia event'. Could an eruption happen? The relatively "small" 7.8 event off NW coast of Ecuador is still creating instability.. A "big one" in the upper NW of the US would continue to rock and roll for quite some time. Natural gas pipelines leaking and having to be shut off, and underground storage of the natural gas leaking (look at the disaster outside of LA in the hills where natural gas was leaking forcing evacuation). Nobody is going to be able to pump out the stored gas safely in a disaster zone, and the continual leaking may create continual hazardous conditions..


Conducting successful life-saving and life-sustaining response operations in the aftermath of a Cascadia Subduction Zone disaster will hinge on the effective coordination and integration of governments at all levels – cities, counties, state agencies, federal officials, the military, tribal nations – as well as non-government organizations and the private sector. One of the primary goals of Cascadia Rising is to train and test this whole community approach to complex disaster operations together as a joint team.

I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.. They may believe they do, but if they were to actually GO to Ecuador for instance, get in there, start digging for bodies, survivors, and then try to help the survivors with food water shelter medical and continual medical aid (Like recall the cholera in Haiti, lack of shelter).. The traumatic shock takes a toll on the survivors. Something else to deal with.

[Bill Ryan]

I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.

Right. It's kind of hard to simulate!

Reported in this video (at 3:54), Chris Goldfinger (http://ceoas.oregonstate.edu/profile/goldfinger), a paleo-seismologist at Oregon State University, states:



"We're not completely unprepared, but we're pretty darn close. On a scale of 1 to 10, we're probably a little shy of 1 at this point."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r71-PyVob0

[KiwiElf]

I always get a bit nervous when FEMA conducts these kind of "drills"; look what happened with 9-11? :facepalm:

If I recall, 10,000 deaths was a best case scenario. Worst case was upward of 250,000!

[Bob]

I don't think a joint team has a clue how to deal with the complexity of all the events that can happen with a massive regional disaster.

Right. It's kind of hard to simulate!

Reported in this video (at 3:54), Chris Goldfinger (http://ceoas.oregonstate.edu/profile/goldfinger), a paleo-seismologist at Oregon State University, states:

"We're not completely unprepared, but we're pretty darn close.

On a scale of 1 to 10, we're probably a little shy of 1 at this point."
[..]

Seems to me, when confronted with mass injury, mass death of one's own community the first responders will get emotionally hit. From experience what first happens with the first 10 bodies one comes across, when taking a break, "Let's go get a hamburger.." (alluding to the "fresh meat" makes one hungry), seriously, that IS said amongst the troops, to try to come up with a COPE strategy.

Then a weariness sets in.. The first responder starts to NUMB out.. Appearing uncaring, it is really quite the opposite.. its an overload, overwhelm..

After a while the weariness starts to turn to "taking chances".. 'forgetting' to tighten the straps on the full face mask..

I'll just bring up a fictional character, "Captain Hawk-Eye Pierce" from the long running TV series MASH. Watching "Hawk-Eye" (Alan Alda actor), the "cope" reaction was seen frequently - in the end Pierce cracked emotionally..

Between the folks called in to try to recover, and the injured.. the most amazing reactions happen.

Being in the mash of the things, what happens to consciousness is a very abrupt disconnect, and now and then, unbelievable acts of kindness will spontaneously appear - miracles happen..

[Bill Ryan]

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From http://lagrandeobserver.com/news/local/4505919-151/personal-preparedness-will-be-key-in-big-earthquake

Personal preparedness will be key in ‘big’ earthquake event

Cascadia earthquake projected to hit Pacific Northwest

http://projectavalon.net/Cascdia_earthquake_projected_damage_map.gif

By Cherise Kaechele
The Observer, 15 July 2016

The massive earthquake and the ensuing tsunami that hit Japan in 2011 killed thousands and caused damage that took years to repair. Geologists say a similar event is likely along the Northwest Coast, and emergency managers urge residents to prepare.

The earthquake would be the biggest natural disaster the nation has ever seen,
according to a June 4 story by The Associated Press.

The Cascadia Subduction Zone is a convergent plate boundary that runs between northern Vancouver Island and Northern California. Geologists claim there is a large-scale earthquake, approximately 9.0 in magnitude, looming in the region’s future. It’s been 315 years since the last Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake. These earthquakes tend to hit the Oregon coast every 234 years on average, according to an Oregon Public Broadcasting article.

More than 8 million people live in the area that is vulnerable to a quake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone, according to The Associated Press story. In the Grande Ronde Valley, there will likely be some isolated areas of damage, but nothing like the destruction that such a quake would cause on the west side of the state, said J.B. Brock, emergency services director for Union County.

The projections created by geologists of estimated fatalities and the lasting effects of this earthquake are available — but that’s the important thing to keep in mind, Brock said. They’re just projections.

“It’s best guess modeling,” he said.

He said the strongest shaking the county would see is predominantly in the valley, according to projections.

“There’s a little bit (of shaking) in La Grande, along the river, some in Elgin,” he said. “Most of Cove looks good. The good news is we’re not going to see a significant amount of shaking. The bad news is, we’ll see some.”

The major potential effects on residents, Brock said, include power outages and a loss of natural gas.

The phone systems won’t be down immediately, he said. He said should the earthquake hit, social media would be the best way to communicate with family and friends.

“Have a communication plan. Not only for your family, but anyone else you’re concerned about,” Brock said. “Especially on the west side. How are you going to communicate with each other?”

Brock suggested using the Red Cross Safe and Well system, a registry that people can check to see if family has registered on the website.

As Brock pointed out, the extent of the damage naturally depends on the magnitude of the quake.

“There are different classifications of earthquakes,” he said. “The 7.0 magnitude is just clearing its throat. The 9.0 is the ‘big bad’. Either one of those could happen.”

The longer term effects of a large-scale quake could cause more trouble for our region, he said. Many bridges on the west side of the Cascades will likely be destroyed, which will affect the delivery of goods and services that come out of that area.

“Not only will there be immediate damage to transportation infrastructure, but the rail lines and barge traffic as well,” Brock said. “Because of the tsunami, those ports will receive significant damage. The economic long term is more concerning than the emergency.”

It’s all projections though, he said. The only way to deal with the possibility of a cataclysmic event is to be prepared.

“Personal preparedness is key,” Brock said. “The emergency federal sites recommend 72 hours’ worth of food. However, I’d say, at a minimum, (you should have on hand) 10 days’ worth of fuel, food, water and medications to be fully self-sustaining.”

He also emphasized people need to know that it’s crucial to store plenty of water. Brock said we should be prepared for the quake happening in any season. If it hits in the midst of winter, having the proper clothing and shelter to keep warm will be essential.

Last month, first responders in Union County took part in a training exercise with the Cascadia earthquake as their model. Three different scenes were set up with casualties, including fatalities, to ready the emergency responders for this incident.

The first responders have an inkling of what’s going to be required of them when this earthquake hits, but the more prepared people are for this scenario, the better off the community will be, Brock said.

For significant injuries, the Grande Ronde Hospital would stabilize the patients and fly them to a higher level of care. That’s the model pushed down by the federal government for a situation like this. However, with an event like the earthquake, that model, and the resources required, may not be possible or available.

“A lot of people in the state will be transferring their patients to the same hospital,” Brock said.

There’s really no way of knowing what resources are going to be available. The earthquake will affect the entire Pacific Northwest and the communities won’t be able to rely on each other for their resources, he said.

“We have to keep in mind where we live and what sort of help we’ll be getting here,” Brock said. “The federal government and Red Cross will take about 72 hours to respond. The resources that will be coming into help will not be coming to the Grande Ronde Valley first. They’ll be going to the I-5 corridor. We need to have a higher level of preparedness. We live in a rural area for a reason. We’re more self-sufficient. We should be more prepared.”

Brock said there are resources online that talk about what should be in an emergency kit and how and what to stockpile. A good place to start is to think about what the family needs on a day-to-day basis to sustain themselves.

“If you’re not part of the solution, you’re not prepared, (and) you’re directly affecting those who need help,” Brock said. “(Emergency responders) won’t want to give food to all 26,000 people in the county.”

Above all, Brock said, the community should realize that it’s not a question of whether this earthquake will take place, but when.

“I think that’s important, because that defines the threat. There is historical evidence this will happen,” he said. “It has happened many times before. And there’s significant evidence we’re overdue for it.”

[onawah]

Simon Parkes has said recently ( I think it was in the last Connecting Consciousness show with Jay Pee that the cabal are planning to create a 7 point earthquake along the West Coast on the San Andreas soon.
He said some want it just before the next election and some want it just after.
I think it was in the same talk he mentioned that there is a lot of dark energy around Seattle, and a lot of underground bases there, so it would seem that there might not be any deliberate strikes in that area, though the Cascadian fault, of course, could still go ioff at any time, not to mention the San Andreas.
He is working on organizing the Connecting Consciousness group to do a mediation to see if they can prevent the deliberate strikes, the same group that did a group meditation to prevent CERN from operating recently (when it broke down).

[onawah]

New predictions about the Cascadian Earthquake and what it portends
There is still no way of knowing definitely when the Big One in the Pacific Northwest will occur, but planning continues for when it does.
For most, the problem won't be so much how to survive the quake, but how to survive the aftermath, assuming you survive the quake itself, which is predicted to cause more fatalities and damage than the Japanese quake of 2011.
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What was most striking to me while watching this was how much denial I think people are in who are still living in that danger zone.
Having lived through the Loma Prieta quake of '89 in the San Francisco Bay Area, and knowing how likely it was that there would be more coming, I didn't delay long before moving more inland, away from the West Coast.
Remaining there just felt like madness to me, like tempting fate.
In my case, there wasn't much holding me there, which is not the case for many.
But the kind of trauma that people experience in such disasters is severe.
Even if they survive it, they are never the same, and such trauma can carry over into future incarnations.
I wonder if any kind of research has been done finding out in hindsight how many people who survive such calamities, having known they were coming, regretted remaining in harm's way.

[Bill Ryan]

See this 2013 thread:


The Pacific NW Cascadia Big One is Due, Quake Expert Says (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63638-The-Pacific-NW-Cascadia-Big-One-is-Due-Quake-Expert-Says)

[Pam]

I live right in the middle of the this area. I am in a Tsunami alert area with Tsunami warning signs posted on the roads. I live at sea level. I'm not at all in denial about the quake happening. I accept the possibility of it. There are so many things one can be fearful about, I have just decided not to worry about it. I have taken minimal precautions. The reality is that safety is pretty much an illusion. If I moved from here to be safer from earthquakes I would exchange that for another threat to safety.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

See also this new thread:


The "Big One": The Cascadia Earthquake that has to come (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109676-The-Big-One-The-Cascadia-Earthquake-that-has-to-come)

[Kamikaze]

Quite a comprehensive and precise video on the issue up there with good information.

Should be viewed by the locals in the Northwest USA.

[Bill Ryan]

This is an excellent depiction of the problem, from https://projects.oregonlive.com/maps/earthquakes/timeline. The 'Big One' could literally happen tomorrow.

http://projectavalon.net/10%2C000_years_of_Cascadia_earthquakes.gif

[Ratszinger]

When it does happen the wall of water will wipe the place like a slate washing it out overnight and there is a good chance of serious inland flooding also. No telling how tall that wall of water will be either but some say it could depending on the size of the quake be a 500 or 600 foot wave coming at them at 220 mph!

[Delight]

I live right in the middle of the this area. I am in a Tsunami alert area with Tsunami warning signs posted on the roads. I live at sea level. I'm not at all in denial about the quake happening. I accept the possibility of it. There are so many things one can be fearful about, I have just decided not to worry about it. I have taken minimal precautions. The reality is that safety is pretty much an illusion. If I moved from here to be safer from earthquakes I would exchange that for another threat to safety.

I respect your position. I respect you as a intelligent and thoughtful person. I don't know anyone in that area so you represent "people I feel concern about personally". I will visualize you safe and that all is well for all of you there.

Earth changes happen all the time. The Cascadia events of the past were huge and the tensions still exist that triggered them.

What I do not really comprehend is the disconnect about planning to live as a group of people on this planet and the way the earth operates. This just mystifies me. Actually I think that once we were nomadic groups that were NOT primitive but moved around with intuition about the way the shifts needed to be managed. It really makes no sense to build gigantic and concentrated cities where floods, fires, earth quakes and volcanoes are looming. It makes little sense to concentrate ANY population in ghettos of impoverished shanties. If there is a mind parasite, IMO it made us believe we needed to cling together like biofilm enclosed microbes.

In the new world, IMO there will be a mass revelation that we must release our beliefs about how to live and unfortunately I feel concern that this will be a harsh wake up unless we could THOUGHTFULLY and WILL FULLY approach change...

I loved the Portland arae and know for the moment it must be quite awesome. Maybe we can help collectively relax the earth with our minds? Gentle release of pressures and metanoia are my 21st century mantras....

[Sunny-side-up]

I live right in the middle of the this area. I am in a Tsunami alert area with Tsunami warning signs posted on the roads. I live at sea level. I'm not at all in denial about the quake happening. I accept the possibility of it. There are so many things one can be fearful about, I have just decided not to worry about it. I have taken minimal precautions. The reality is that safety is pretty much an illusion. If I moved from here to be safer from earthquakes I would exchange that for another threat to safety.

Hi peterpam.
Wishing you and all that live in that area the very best of luck.
Sometimes you just have to make a stand where you are, even though too some people it seems
simple to just move, all the best to you if it happens in your/our life time.
Alan
Same goes to all of us if, say, the Yellowstone park mega volcano, or any one of those goes off.
The world gets reset again.

[onawah]

My dearest friends still live in California, very near the coast, also in the areas where fires are likely to occur.
I understand the mindset of many Californians, since I lived in the Bay Area and Santa Cruz for 20 years.
After moving there from the East Coast, in comparison it seemed like such a paradise back in the 70s that I felt, like I think many others did, that even if it went into the ocean, I was willing to go down with it.

But if my friends go down with it, I will certainly feel the loss, even if they don't!
The West Coast has certainly changed a lot, though, and had even changed a lot by '92, when I moved.
My new home felt like paradise[/I] compared to the West Coast, which had become just as crazy, crowded, stressful, expensive and dangerous as the East Coast by that time.
(But then, I am one of those very sensitive people who just need to be in an uncrowded, natural setting to really feel whole.)

It was a gifted psychic who kept having lucid dreams about a tsunami inundating the coast, who knew many others who were having the same premonitions, that finally convinced me to leave.
That and my own lucid dream about it.
I met and worked with a man who became one of my mentors, Viktoras Kulvinskas, and who wrote, quite fittingly, this book 27 years ago that is still in bookstores today:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513SEgWbBDL._SX373_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
He is also quite psychic, and he said that he had done a lot of research before moving from the West Coast, and had determined that Arkansas was going to be relatively safe during the earth changes.
I had to go through a huge amount of personal transition to make that move from CA., but I definitely feel it was worth it.

But when that Big One hits, and if it triggers the San Andreas fault as well, it will be world-changing.
For one thing, there are going to be big food shortages, which will trigger many other problems, not just on the Coast, but in places that have depended on the Coast as a food source.

If I had my druthers now, I'd be living in a self-sustaining, eco-friendly spiritual community, which one of my other mentors, the late Dr. Christopher Hills, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills ...thought would play a very large role in the future paradigm of the planet.
I didn't know anything about Viktoras Kulvinskas when I first met him, but as it turned out, he was a huge fan of Dr. Hills.

I've had a nomadic kind of life, living on both coasts and in between over my lifetime, but each time I pulled up my roots and moved somewhere new, I found a good reason for having done so.
Even though it wasn't always easy, I saw a pattern of connecting dots that made sense of the healing and spiritual discovery journey I was on, in hindsight, if not in foresight.
I think I was probably in Atlantis when it went down, and maybe I just decided on a soul level that I don't want to have to go through all that again!
Maybe that kind of experience has value to it as well, so I am not judging, just musing about it all from my own personal perspective! :nod:

[TomKat]

When it does happen the wall of water will wipe the place like a slate washing it out overnight and there is a good chance of serious inland flooding also. No telling how tall that wall of water will be either but some say it could depending on the size of the quake be a 500 or 600 foot wave coming at them at 220 mph!

If Mother Earth ever wants to get rid of most of humanity, she's probably noticed that most of us live on the coasts or near rivers that connect to the ocean :-)

[Pam]

My dearest friends still live in California, very near the coast, also in the areas where fires are likely to occur.
I understand the mindset of many Californians, since I lived in the Bay Area and Santa Cruz for 20 years.
After moving there from the East Coast, in comparison it seemed like such a paradise back in the 70s that I felt, like I think many others did, that even if it went into the ocean, I was willing to go down with it.

But if my friends go down with it, I will certainly feel the loss, even if they don't!
The West Coast has certainly changed a lot, though, and had even changed a lot by '92, when I moved to Arkansas.
When I got to Arkansas, it felt like paradise compared to the West Coast, which had become just as crazy, crowded, stressful, expensive and dangerous as the East Coast by that time.
(But then, I am one of those very sensitive people who just need to be in an uncrowded, natural setting to really feel whole.)

It was a gifted psychic who kept having lucid dreams about a tsunami inundating the coast, who knew many others who were having the same premonitions, that finally convinced me to leave.
That and my own lucid dream about it.
My first home in Arkansas was in Hot Springs, where I met and worked with one of my mentors, Viktoras Kulvinskas, who wrote, quite fittingly, this book 27 years ago that is still in bookstores today:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513SEgWbBDL._SX373_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
He is also quite psychic, and he said that he had done a lot of research before moving to Hot Springs from the West Coast, and had determined that Arkansas was going to be relatively safe during the earth changes.
I had to go through a huge amount of personal transition to make that move, but I definitely feel it was worth it.

But when that Big One hits, and if it triggers the San Andreas fault as well, it will be world-changing.
For one thing, there are going to be big food shortages, which will trigger many other problems, not just on the Coast, but in places that have depended on the Coast as a food source.

If I had my druthers now, I'd be living in a self-sustaining, eco-friendly spiritual community, which one of my other mentors, the late Dr. Christopher Hills, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills ...thought would play a very large role in the future paradigm of the planet.
I didn't know anything about Viktoras Kulvinskas when I moved to Arkansas, but as it turned out, he was a huge fan of Dr. Hills.

I've had a nomadic kind of life, living on both coasts and in between over my lifetime, but each time I pulled up my roots and moved somewhere new, I found a good reason for having done so.
Even though it wasn't always easy, I saw a pattern of connecting dots that made sense of the healing and spiritual discovery journey I was on, in hindsight, if not in foresight.
I think I was probably in Atlantis when it went down, and maybe I just decided on a soul level that I don't want to have to go through all that again!
Maybe that kind of experience has value to it as well, so I am not judging, just musing about it all from my own personal perspective! :nod:

It's interesting you should mention the dreams and visions of tsunami's. When I first moved into this house I went up to a small deck upstairs where I can see the water. I actually had the strong feeling and a momentary flash of a huge body of water coming into view from the west. I didn't feel terrified by it, it was sort of mesmerizing. I have always had a fascination and extreme interest in tsunamis. I have had dreams about them as well. I had one about 2 weeks ago. I have a really strong need to live near a large body of water, not sure why that is.

[Ratszinger]

I never had dreams of tsunamis but I did have a repeating dream as a youth of water receding and me playing out in it. I never tied it together with a tsunami though until the big one that effected so much of the world and I saw the videos. Then it was that "Ahha" moment as they say.

[onawah]

One of the things I found very interesting that was in the video in post #1 of this thread is that there is a whole new industry now for people looking for ways to survive a tsunami.
They are buying big waterproof, reinforced metal balls that they can strap themselves into, lock the door from the inside, and hopefully survive until they land somewhere safe or get rescued.
I would imagine a ride like that could challenge even an astronaut!
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GUnGvdFbz7I/hqdefault.jpg

(Imagine getting swept back out to sea in one of those things...I think they should include paddles.)
There are different sizes, some can hold just 1 or 2 people, others can hold 10--(perhaps there are larger ones too) and some with lots of "mod cons":
http://survival-capsule.com/Products.html


We currently have five capsule models available or planned for manufacture and sale. Our model matrix defines the various models, including seating arrangements and other building specifications.
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Designed by aircraft engineers
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Different occupancy models to choose from
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The Survival Capsule is a patent-pending, personal safety system (PSS) designed as a spherical ball to protect against tsunami events, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, and storm surges.
Using a PSS, as opposed to a municipal safety system like a safe house, allows individual groups and families to be more in control of their survival in an emergency situation. The capsule is also a variable disaster solution, which means it can vary position according to the water depth, so it will never be inundated by water levels rising too high. It also provides warmth, safety, and shelter during the initial post-disaster period before rescue crews and relief workers have arrived on the scene.
Built with strength and survivability in mind, by a team of experienced aerospace engineers, the survival capsule will operate safely and efficiently in the harsh circumstances and environments to which a natural disaster would expose it. The sphere will withstand the initial impact of a natural disaster, as well as sharp object penetration, heat exposure, blunt object impact, and rapid deceleration.
We’ve designed the capsule to be mounted inside or outside the home or business establishment. The capsules come in various sizes ranging from two-person capacity all the way up to a ten-person capacity. The smaller capsules are suitable for private dwellings and family homes. The larger capsules are designed for municipal buildings, businesses, hospitals, airports, schools and general public safe havens.
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Water Storage (bladder or tank)
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Air Ventilation Vents
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Basic, High-Visibility Unit Color
Air Supply Tanks (one for each occupant)
Hard Restraint Support
Solid, Watertight Marine Door (opens from inside and outside)
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Kind of like big hamster ball, only propelled by the tsunami :lol:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2sxIB91hb6weyXYx-YYHVAsN-oYr8TUVAi2R1CmOj26cUH79S-w&s

Then there's these Bumper Balls : https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkbIXbleydrrFxsiV0hbhbrLrNG62-EHq25hTPMUYJMseRF0onh2iI3Q84bLEGo9Bi_YlbcobjyEatQjHRZCz1Z-1f7aoyAoD3-1fIC16q&usqp=CAc

And this Water Walking Human Hamster Ball : https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1AycZatfvK1RjSspfq6zzXFXaF/2-2M-Dia-Inflatable-Water-Walking-Ball-Human-Hamster-Ball-Giant-Inflatable-Recreation-Ballet-Dancing-Zorb.jpg

I guess for some of us, contemplating disasters tends to warp our sense of humor.
Maybe I should just post this in the "You Must Laugh at Least Once a Day" thread.

[Bill Ryan]

One of the things I found very interesting that was in the video in post #1 of this thread is that there is a whole new industry now for people looking for ways to survive a tsunami.
They are buying big waterproof, reinforced metal balls that they can strap themselves into, lock the door from the inside, and hopefully survive until they land somewhere safe or get rescued.
I would imagine a ride like that could challenge even an astronaut!
No kidding. There seems to be good fighter-pilot (or racecar-driver) seat belts for the people, but I'd not envy the poor little dog in there. :highfive:

[onawah]

If the owner of a small dog was holding it, it might get squeezed to death by the terrified owner, for one thing.
One hates to imagine what might befall a small child.



One of the things I found very interesting that was in the video in post #1 of this thread is that there is a whole new industry now for people looking for ways to survive a tsunami.
They are buying big waterproof, reinforced metal balls that they can strap themselves into, lock the door from the inside, and hopefully survive until they land somewhere safe or get rescued.
I would imagine a ride like that could challenge even an astronaut!
No kidding. There seems to be good fighter-pilot (or racecar-driver) seat belts for the people, but I'd not envy the poor little dog in there. :highfive:

[Bill Ryan]

If the owner of a small dog was holding it, it might get squeezed to death by the terrified owner, for one thing.
One hates to imagine what might befall a small child.

That's very true. I presume the designers have child-seat and baby-carriage options (with smaller seatbelts, etc), but maybe not!

[onawah]

No doubt something could be custom-made, if not, but even so, what a traumatic experience for a child!


If the owner of a small dog was holding it, it might get squeezed to death by the terrified owner, for one thing.
One hates to imagine what might befall a small child.

That's very true. I presume the designers have child-seat and baby-carriage options (with smaller seatbelts, etc), but maybe not!

[Meryl]

And helmets. Surely. No good surviving a tsunami and climbing out brain damaged. What a brilliant concept.

[Pam]

Imagine getting in one of those orbs and after surviving being buried alive under tons of rubble and uprooted trees. I'm not sure what would be worse, being killed drowning or being buried alive in a little metal ball.

[Bill Ryan]

Imagine getting in one of those orbs and after surviving being buried alive under tons of rubble and uprooted trees. I'm not sure what would be worse, being killed drowning or being buried alive in a little metal ball.No kidding. What would be needed (I wonder if the ball manufactures have thought of this?) is an included Personal Locator Beacon [PLB] that would activate automatically when the ball was in motion and send a 24 hour emergency signal to NOAA with its location within 100 meters. (I have one myself — a PLB, not a ball! :) — that I now take on all my remote mountain hikes.)

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3pEAAOSwfp9bIsAU/s-l640.jpg

[onawah]

And all that based on the assumption that there will be enough search and rescue teams and volunteers out and about who will be able to locate and rescue all the thousands of victims, with fires to fight, roads down, after shocks, and all the other catastrophic conditions that will prevail for a long time after the initial quake and tsunami...

[Jackson]

I, like Peterpam, live right in the heart of this potential event. We live on the top of the Olympic Peninsula in Port Angeles, Washington. Our house is 1 mile from the water at 500 feet. My family also lives here in the area. We have discussed this among our selves and feel that life is so sweet here why should we have any fear of this happening. If it does....then oh well.


Be well.

[Carmody]

I have to re-install google earth on my new PC, and add in the kmz file for the ley lines.....and..check and see where exactly that earthquake happened, re comparison to the energy grid lines.

I think it happened near a suspected underground facility and at the right depth. (10km) https://www.usgs.gov/news/m57-earthquake-felt-near-salt-lake-city-ut

[Bill Ryan]

Bumping this potentially important thread with this:


https://zerohedge.com/weather/newly-discovered-seafloor-seep-oregon-coast-fault-line-may-be-harbinger-major-quake

"Newly Discovered Seafloor Seep" Off Oregon Coast On Fault Line May Be Harbinger To Major Quake

"Chemically distinct liquid shooting up from the seafloor" has been detected by researchers on a stretch of a 600-mile-long fault line in the Pacific Ocean, which is situated only 50 miles away from the Oregon coast, and could potentially trigger a catastrophic earthquake in the Pacific Northwest.

"Pythia's Oasis is a newly discovered seafloor seep on the Central Oregon segment of the Cascadia Subduction Zone, where focused venting emits highly altered fluids ~9°C above the background temperature. The seep fluid chemistry is unique for Cascadia and includes extreme enrichment of boron and lithium and depletion of chloride, potassium, and magnesium. We conclude that the fluids are sourced from pore water compaction and mineral dehydration reactions with minimum source temperatures of 150° to 250°C, placing the source at or near the plate boundary offshore Central Oregon," researchers at the University of Washington (https://www.washington.edu/news/2023/04/10/warm-liquid-spewing-from-oregon-seafloor-comes-from-cascadia-fault-could-offer-clues-to-earthquake-hazards/) wrote in a study.

(The article continues (https://zerohedge.com/weather/newly-discovered-seafloor-seep-oregon-coast-fault-line-may-be-harbinger-major-quake))

[ExomatrixTV]

What's the ONE THING You Can Do To Survive a Tsunami? Cascadia Subduction Zone:

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While tsunamis happen all over the world, really big ones are rare. But, they can be truly devastating. And what’s more, the West Coast of North America is overdue for a subduction zone earthquake and tsunami that has the potential to be the biggest disaster the U.S. has ever seen. So, what is the single most important factor determining whether or not YOU survive a tsunami? Watch this episode to find out.

Weathered is a show hosted by weather expert Maiya May and produced by Balance Media that helps explain the most common natural disasters, what causes them, how they’re changing, and what we can do to prepare.

Tsunami Evacuation Map for Oregon and Washington: nvs.nanoos.org/TsunamiEvac (https://nvs.nanoos.org/TsunamiEvac)


00:00 Subduction zone earthquakes can cause catastrophic tsunamis, unlike those generated by wind.
01:27 The Cascadia megaquake, overdue for the west coast, could lead to deadly tsunamis, emphasizing the need for preparedness.
02:29 Subduction zone earthquakes, caused by tectonic plate movement, create devastating tsunamis, with the Cascadia subduction zone being a major concern.
04:23 Scientists have found evidence of past tsunamis and earthquakes in the Cascadia region, underlining the historical risk.
07:43 Reaction time is critical for survival during a tsunami, with immediate evacuation being paramount for coastal residents.
09:11 Vertical evacuation

[Bill Ryan]

Copying this new post by Tigger (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1608768&viewfull=1#post1608768) on the Suspicious 0bservers thread: (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages)




Triggering Cascadia, Unprecedented Magnetar, Solar Watch (3:22)
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April 10, 2024

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Link:
Triggering Cascadia: https://eos.org/articles/earthquakes-can-trigger-megathrust-slip-in-cascadia