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jiminii
30th September 2013, 05:26
there is a saying I got from something that might come from the Dao .. in I Ching somewhere and that is this.

The way of Heaven is Easy

The way of Earth is simple


So imagine being a spirit being with infinite potential ...

Just IMAGINE IT !!!!!!


now WE ARE THAT


WE ARE AN ELEPHANT

but we've been IMPLANTED to BELIEVE we are just an ANT.

So how do we Change this?????

It is as simple as turning on the TV and seeing a HURRICANE going straight into FLORIDA

and deciding to stop it and do something with it to protect your friends.

It is all NICE to hear HOW MUCH TROUBLE WE ARE IN.

but it takes a LITTLE GUTS TO RAISE ABOVE THAT.

When I get a problem on my PLATE I come up with a handle, while OTHERS toss the problem on others to HANDLE IT FOR THEM OR JUST GO IN APATHY BECAUSE OF IT.

SO ... if you see a SUN SPOT .... WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT????

you say "hey there is a sun spot ... do you know what I am going TO DO WITH THAT TO PROTECT MY FRIENDS" and like a GOD YOU ARE DECIDE A SOLUTION TO IT THAT EVERYONE CAN START PLAYING LIKE GODS AGAIN.

LIKE CHILDREN IN A SAND BOX THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO DO.

so this would be OPERATING AT CAUSE.

don't just PUT THE PROBLEM ......

PUT THE SOLUTION TOO so I don't have to come into everyone's thread and figure out a solution that YOU SHOULD BE DOING


BE CAUSE

jim

Vitalux
30th September 2013, 05:34
:pop2:


Interesting thread.......I'm just here to experience this moment :o

jiminii
30th September 2013, 05:52
:pop2:


Interesting thread.......I'm just here to experience this moment :o

then you need to bring another bag of popcorn

This thread is NOT FREE ... you have to create something

jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 06:25
You see this period of time is OURS. WE have been sent here to change it. WE only have to DECIDE THINGS TONE 40, (without reservation). This means OUR THOUGHTS ARE SENIOR TO EVERYTHING.

I KNOW this is a HARD ONE TO GET IN YOUR HEAD.. but you can do it.

like a movie be the actor and create the show and YOU MAKE THE ENDINGS.

There are A LOT more people here who can say things in WORDS I CAN'T

but if we were in ELECTRONICS DIGITAL SYSTEMS that I worked 15 years in NASA I could also run circles around any of you talking ELECTRONICS,.

Postulates WORK when they are LIGHT ... not HEAVY AND SERIOUS.

you get a thought you might miss the hammer and hit your finger ...... WHAM !!!!! ... that light ... just that little thought and if you don't immediately cancel it YOU WILL HIT YOUR FINGER WITH THE HAMMER or you have to stop look back at the thought the second time and cancel it.

So BE THE CHILD IN THE SAND BOX MAKING CASTLES and FORTRESSES and UFO LANDING BASES and EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO CREATE ON THIS PLANET.

GO GET SOME CLAY ... and LOOK AT THE PROBLEM AND WORK IN CLAY HOW YOU WANT IT TO TURN OUT .... until your CLAY MODEL GETS MORE REAL AND MORE REAL ... it is as simple as being a child in a sand box ...

you only have to practice same method in a larger space.

you have to imagine the idea of being the size of the planet and that you are ONE WITH IT and IT FOLLOWS YOU JUST LIKE YOUR HANDS DO and you have to keep making this more and more real until it starts showing up in the physical universe

AND LIKE A CHILD if it happens then TAKE A WIN and get very EXCITED and LET ALL THAT COUNTER INTENTION YOU BEEN HOLDING SINCE CHILDHOOD BLOW

and your wins get BIGGER AND BETTER..

YOU PEOPLE ARE IN THOSE GAMES OF THE THINGS YOU ARE WRITING so YOU KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT... so BE THE PRODUCER OF THE MOVIE
and DECIDE HOW YOU WANT IT TO GO

PUFF YOURSELF UP LIKE A BOXER GETTING READY TO GO TO FIGHT ... GET ALL THAT ENERGY INSIDE MOVING OUT AND MAKING IT HAPPEN


then we can be WRITING HOW WE ARE CHANGING IT...

do you get what I am saying?

jim

TigaHawk
30th September 2013, 09:32
Jiminii.


I have disliked you since I saw your stance on a certain topic which I took personaly, due to my own experiences and the pain, confusion and utter hate shown to me by others because of it.

Reading this post.... kinda changes that.

IT is what I have been saying to myself (and others) for quite a while now.

Yes there is a problem, but talking about it will not do anything. We need to act. Everyone knows deep down what they should do, but for the most part they do not, for fear? seems to be the only reason withholding action.


Thankyou Jiminii

Azt
30th September 2013, 09:43
I am here for creating the following:

A way out of the wheel or round of existence. I feel there is a huge manipulation in our world/timeline (in and out) now and that needs to be fixed, otherwise we will just get stuck on life`s carousel or in a crystal on the moon. I do not have any super power that I am aware of but the willing / believing that something need to be done is strong.

greybeard
30th September 2013, 10:05
I am here to find the answer to the question "Who am I?"
or more accurately, What am I beyond form and non form?

The Mystics speak of it from direct experience but say its beyond the mind to understand.
That knowing is our birthright.
Once the knowledge is in place by directly knowing, then the wheel of Karma is exited and there is no need to reincarnate here.

Chris

jiminii
30th September 2013, 10:13
I am here to find the answer to the question "Who am I?"
or more accurately, What am I beyond form and non form?

The Mystics speak of it from direct experience but say its beyond the mind to understand.
That knowing is our birthright.
Once the knowledge is in place by directly knowing, then the wheel of Karma is exited and there is no need to reincarnate here.

Chris

the wheel of karma has been stopped on this planet since they removed the force field that is surrounding it. We don't have to worry about that now. Whatever spirit you are connected that extends you into this universe through some kind of viewpoint will be changed. The new viewpoint will be one that has no automatic picture recording memories so you will be free of karma from past memories. Then the new you will return here if you want to do that or you can go wherever you wish, which might be some place in the stars that you came from.

this is just my think based off my own experience and I have no way to prove it ...

just giving my viewpoint of it that's all

jim

Azt
30th September 2013, 10:24
Thanks Jim for the update on our current status. Keep sharing it.

Cara
30th September 2013, 10:52
When I get a problem on my PLATE I come up with a handle, while OTHERS toss the problem on others to HANDLE IT FOR THEM OR JUST GO IN APATHY BECAUSE OF IT.

Hi Jiminii, this is absolutely the attitude we need to have. I came up to this huge realization through this life experience. The way I see it involves taking responsibility but also having the courage and energy to go into action. But I believe it is not always fear that prevents a person from doing.


LIKE CHILDREN IN A SAND BOX THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO DO.

I believe it is not that simple. Other forces are in action. I actually remember my thoughts from the first time I decided to walk as a toddler. I was sitting on a beach, seeing other children running around and realizing I had to do the same. I remember the feeling of my though: I really had no choice but go and do it, almost like an exasperation about the challenge. Why this obstacle in the attitude? How do you find joy in the challenge...

jiminii
30th September 2013, 11:24
When I get a problem on my PLATE I come up with a handle, while OTHERS toss the problem on others to HANDLE IT FOR THEM OR JUST GO IN APATHY BECAUSE OF IT.

Hi Jiminii, this is absolutely the attitude we need to have. I came up to this huge realization through this life experience. The way I see it involves taking responsibility but also having the courage and energy to go into action. But I believe it is not always fear that prevents a person from doing.


LIKE CHILDREN IN A SAND BOX THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO DO.

I believe it is not that simple. Other forces are in action. I actually remember my thoughts from the first time I decided to walk as a toddler. I was sitting on a beach, seeing other children running around and realizing I had to do the same. I remember the feeling of my though: I really had no choice but go and do it, almost like an exasperation about the challenge. Why this obstacle in the attitude? How do you find joy in the challenge...

it is more easy to postulate in groups. you take 2 people with infinite potential and square that and you have infinity times infinity. some of your own think might be compensated by the other.

for example I know how to fight with weather and electronics. I can look at the electronics on the planet and more or less manipulate it. But I don't KNOW the variables. I can look but what kind of handle would I use.

so someone else who has been there and KNOWS more about how to handle that can give us a pattern we can use in the electronics.

So take someone who KNOWS NSA lines another KNOWS the government and the other KNOWS the military. A spirit being can control Dolls, (GE's running bodies), and a lot of people have their spirit sitting behind the doll in some huge government trap watching the GE, (ghost part of body), agreeing to the system. The spirit wants to GET OUT OF IT and DO GOOD but he/she is locked into the trap with all these variables they use to manipulate his well being.

OK so WE, looking down from the sky with all these here who can do Out of Body can help us direct our intention to those DOLLS and run them for the Being that is more or less in APATHY about the situation

so get the IDEA of BEING THE SPIRIT in the sky and IS MANIPULATING THESE DOLLS and getting them to fix it.

the spirits attached to them, (if they have a spirit there), will probably just let you take over.

it is JUST LIKE A CHILD PLAYING WITH SAND CASTLES. He/she has ALL THEIR INTENTION ON THE CREATION. and the sand castle gets made and all the little dolls he plays with just do what he wants.

THAT IS WHAT WE MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR. we must as a group, take responsibility for the LACK OF responsibility of all these spirits in apathy being controlled by INSANE TERRIFIED WAR MONGERS. they are Bringing us into their INSANITY and they REALLY ARE TERRIFIED spirits afraid everyone is trying to get them,

so we take control spiritually all those we can electronically but I need those who can make a plan who KNOWS what we have to do to change it, to come up with a plan and we work it and see what appears in the physical universe.

get the idea?

jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 11:41
so get the IDEA of BEING THE SPIRIT in the sky and IS MANIPULATING THESE DOLLS and getting them to fix it.

Ok this is one of the abilities I have. I can run other beings like I did at Flag Service Org. On the week I postulated Highest Evers Cross the boards and wrote to LRH I would do it, WE DID GET HIGHEST EVERS CROSS THE BOARDS, this is every division, every statistic, of International Management and Commodore's Messenger Organization the FLAG BASE ITSELF Organization and ALL OF THEM had HIGHEST EVERS EVERY PERSON AND EVERY STATISTIC CROSS THE BOARDS.

so THESE PEOPLE KNOW THEIR LINES, I don't KNOW their LINES .. but I can PUT THE INTENTION THERE TO GET THE PRODUCT and let THOSE WHO KNOW THEIR LINES DO THEIR JOBS ...

we CAN DO THIS TOTALLY SPIRITUALLY so we CAN't BE ATTACKED, because they DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHERE WE ARE. and if someone puts up the lines we have to handle and the plan or plans I CAN RUN THE INTENTION and it will connect to all the others and THEIR BEINGS WILL RESONATE WITH IT and WE WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

get the idea?

jim

Richard S.
30th September 2013, 13:13
I really would like my left-brain to understand this, and you, clearly.

I may have "judged" you and your topics, so I am learning I have to let go of that.

I just want to say "Thank you" for your openness and courage at exposing yourself and your thoughts here...

jiminii
30th September 2013, 13:22
The power of intention is beyond anything you ever could have imagined. Put Enough intention there and it will cause others to follow or do the work for or with you.

Most people went into Scientology with thoughts of helping out to fix the planet but NONE of them that I KNOW of would ever make a postulate senior to the entire base or bases world wide. They simply CAN'T THINK THAT BIG. But for me playing with weather and doing amazing things I had a different viewpoint. I came in with the intention that I can MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. I never expected it to happen but when it did again and again and again and I even picked the weeks myself because I had so much trouble to believe it was really me. But when we won the birthday game, (the org I was in), I decided to test it. I then postulate GI, (GROSS INCOME), every other day and the GI doubled every other day. Then I tried first half week and not last half. GI doubled only on the first half. Then I tried to do all the GI on wednesday night, and almost no GI came in the week and all of it came in on Thursday before 2PM which is the end of the week for Scientology.

because it was happening again and again to every combination I could create IT LITERALLY SCARED ME. I thought I am really in a mess now because if I am making all this happen there would be NO WAY to prove it to anyone else and there would be NO WAY I would be able to train anyone else on how to do it because none of them would believe I could do this.

So I just had to leave and go do it in another more advanced Org on the WEEKS I picked and write it up to LRH the week before doing impossible postulates that happen.

you see what I mean? If the people on this forum could RAISE their ability to believe that they REALLY CAN DO THIS and REALLY GO FOR IT ... we could take this planet OVER NIGHT.

I am only asking you to give it a try.

jim

Richard S.
30th September 2013, 14:15
I have experienced it, but I can't put my finger on how I do it.

It amazes me that it comes out of the blue, and then, BAM, in my face.

I know I have to concentrate on it, because those which have manifested for me, are those that which I put energy into.

Seems like more I have it in my mind (heart?), the faster it becomes. This has lead me to being careful about what I think, until I can understand how it works...

Jake
30th September 2013, 14:26
Jim, Thank you. I feel your pain on this one. A question that comes to mind for me, is do we MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN, or do we LET IT ALL HAPPEN. Do you really want to manifest a new reality, without taking advantage of all this world has to offer. I believe it to be one of the most fundamental question of all of creation. Are you a tyrant, or do believe in freedom? To me, It is the same question. Consider the following analogy: What If I were to come across a thousand butterfly cocoons, and decide that I did not like the struggle and help every single butterfly out of the cocoon. Wow, a thousand beautiful butterflies!! Accept, THEY CANNOT, NOR WILL THEY EVER, BE ABLE TO FLY!!! I have robbed them of the struggle it will take for them to gain the proper attributes that it will take for them to be free. And they will never be free, because of ME... Now apply that to the human condition!! Earthlings have a way to go, my friend. If you fix all of the woes,, we will never grasp the potential that it will take for us to be truly free and sovereign. Whenever I manifest a great thing,,, I am always kicked into another level of the dream.. It seems that I am not 'allowed' to augment the experiences of those around me with 'majic'. Of course I can,, I do it all the time when nobody is paying attention. If someone witnesses a 'miracle', it serves to re-enforce their ignorance of the natural abilities that we all possess.

My point is,,, if you manifest and save this planet, then you are stuck with the responsibility of babysitting this planet. Babysitting all those that you have robbed of the experience of becoming free.

If you INSPIRE those around you to realized these truths for themselves, then you become part of a 'miracle' that you cannot manifest on your own. You cannot 'give' a person freedom. They have to REALIZE IT.

On a side note, why do you feel that you need people to believe you? I find that folks become more empowered/confident in themselves if they believe in THEMSELVES.

This world needs great teachers, not great saviors. Many little lights are flickering on and off... You know this... Lets help them to stay on and shine, rather than flicker.. And when the world saves itself,, You and I can have a party, play chess, tell jokes, play in the clouds,, whatever we want to do to express joy!!!

Love you, Jim.
Jake.

Star Mariner
30th September 2013, 15:03
[ .... ] I came in with the intention that I can MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. I never expected it to happen but when it did again and again and again and I even picked the weeks myself because I had so much trouble to believe it was really me.[ .... ]


Here I'm confused jim, and here is the problem I am having. You say you came in with the "Intention to make it all happen," but then go on to say "I never expected it to happen." I would have thought that NOT EXPECTING it to happen would cancel out the original intent.

And here is where I'm falling down. I have repeatedly attempted several of the theories you have presented, using thought, in meditation and in normal waking states, coupled with strong INTENTION, for certain things I want to make happen in my life. I am not getting the successes I was aiming for. Now, I assumed that a part of me was NOT EXPECTING it to happen, that I was not capable of doing this, thus a counter-force of my own creation was stifling the process. So is that what's happening here?

Now I read with interest that even though you had INTENT, you did not necessarily EXPECT success, but you were successful anyway, so this gives me reason to believe that even though I may doubt myself, if the INTENT is there I can still achieve what I want. Do you see what I mean?

jiminii
30th September 2013, 15:07
Jim, Thank you. I feel your pain on this one. A question that comes to mind for me, is do we MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN, or do we LET IT ALL HAPPEN. Do you really want to manifest a new reality, without taking advantage of all this world has to offer. I believe it to be one of the most fundamental question of all of creation. Are you a tyrant, or do believe in freedom? To me, It is the same question. Consider the following analogy: What If I were to come across a thousand butterfly cocoons, and decide that I did not like the struggle and help every single butterfly out of the cocoon. Wow, a thousand beautiful butterflies!! Accept, THEY CANNOT, NOR WILL THEY EVER, BE ABLE TO FLY!!! I have robbed them of the struggle it will take for them to gain the proper attributes that it will take for them to be free. And they will never be free, because of ME... Now apply that to the human condition!! Earthlings have a way to go, my friend. If you fix all of the woes,, we will never grasp the potential that it will take for us to be truly free and sovereign. Whenever I manifest a great thing,,, I am always kicked into another level of the dream.. It seems that I am not 'allowed' to augment the experiences of those around me with 'majic'. Of course I can,, I do it all the time when nobody is paying attention. If someone witnesses a 'miracle', it serves to re-enforce their ignorance of the natural abilities that we all possess.

My point is,,, if you manifest and save this planet, then you are stuck with the responsibility of babysitting this planet. Babysitting all those that you have robbed of the experience of becoming free.

If you INSPIRE those around you to realized these truths for themselves, then you become part of a 'miracle' that you cannot manifest on your own. You cannot 'give' a person freedom. They have to REALIZE IT.

On a side note, why do you feel that you need people to believe you? I find that folks become more empowered/confident in themselves if they believe in THEMSELVES.

This world needs great teachers, not great saviors. Many little lights are flickering on and off... You know this... Lets help them to stay on and shine, rather than flicker.. And when the world saves itself,, You and I can have a party, play chess, tell jokes, play in the clouds,, whatever we want to do to express joy!!!

Love you, Jim.
Jake.

OK I don't have the knowledge of all the scenes that need to be handled. The thing is this You people create the scenario and I will help you push the intention.

how do you handle a group. The person must take control of the scene who is the most powerful in that scene until the students raise up their ability to do it themselves. If you think I want to run everything .... no no .. far from .... I just want to do what I do best.

I can push things from exterior. this means if a group is looking for some people to help them get their crops sold then I look in the space and I can locate those people who are looking for these kind of crops and spiritually I connect them. Suddenly they meet almost like a miracle accidentally and I did it all from the spiritual universe.

so it is like that. you have to decide among the group what products you want handled. Then someone creates a plan saying if we get these kind of situation we can change the outcome. I have no idea about it because I never worked in the government. but others do know. so we work together how we want this all to happen and then align out postulates and I start pushing the power and intention to cause it to happen but in truth we are all creating this together.

once you got your connections we can do another project and we just do the best things we know how to do until we got people coming in telling us what they need and want in their area and we pull all the stops.

A STOP IS A RIDGE SOMEONE PUTS IT THERE AND IT CAN BE REMOVED AS EASILY HAS IT WAS PUT THERE.
and with enough intention you could put a mountain made out of nothing right on top of DC and say if you want the mountain removed then you have to agree to do what the people ask you to do not the elite pigs.

I am telling you you could literally put the mountain there and walls all around DC and tell them NO MORE DC. that is how powerful intention is.

but in the spiritual world you don't really have to PUT THE MOUNTAIN THERE ... because your intentions are just as powerful and solid as the mountain you could have put there. It is intention that will break through all these barriers.

I am not the one who wants to rule others but I can make my intentions happen senior to others but I have to have some KNOWN TARGET that we want to handle and that is what you and others have to create. Create the model and people like me will put in the intention like handling CAT 5 hurricanes like me and Rocky can do.

there are others here that can handle it but we need targets from people who know what needs to be handled.

jim

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 15:13
The power of intention is beyond anything you ever could have imagined. Put Enough intention there and it will cause others to follow or do the work for or with you.

Most people went into Scientology with thoughts of helping out to fix the planet but NONE of them that I KNOW of would ever make a postulate senior to the entire base or bases world wide. They simply CAN'T THINK THAT BIG. But for me playing with weather and doing amazing things I had a different viewpoint. I came in with the intention that I can MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. I never expected it to happen but when it did again and again and again and I even picked the weeks myself because I had so much trouble to believe it was really me. But when we won the birthday game, (the org I was in), I decided to test it. I then postulate GI, (GROSS INCOME), every other day and the GI doubled every other day. Then I tried first half week and not last half. GI doubled only on the first half. Then I tried to do all the GI on wednesday night, and almost no GI came in the week and all of it came in on Thursday before 2PM which is the end of the week for Scientology.

because it was happening again and again to every combination I could create IT LITERALLY SCARED ME. I thought I am really in a mess now because if I am making all this happen there would be NO WAY to prove it to anyone else and there would be NO WAY I would be able to train anyone else on how to do it because none of them would believe I could do this.

So I just had to leave and go do it in another more advanced Org on the WEEKS I picked and write it up to LRH the week before doing impossible postulates that happen.

you see what I mean? If the people on this forum could RAISE their ability to believe that they REALLY CAN DO THIS and REALLY GO FOR IT ... we could take this planet OVER NIGHT.

I am only asking you to give it a try.

jim

the best part is, we don't have to try...

when I see something needs changing, I drop by the Avalon collective and without saying one word in the forum, gather a team of Spirits willing to help make the changes.

our conscious and subconscious interact silently, our subconscious is our spirit and can communicate with all of who we are in contact with.

Avalon is really quite an amazing group who have gathered from around the world, our spirits are quietly teaching the younger ones about their abilities, what is said in the forum is a chuckling point for our Spirits, the Master's training only causes confusion, it's like a bunch of bored kids sitting around coming up with stories and they continue to build as more and more get involved, when none of it has any meaning compared to the simple truths we already know...

Everyone is looking for answers, so we have found teachers, what are the teachers teaching?

a hodgepoge of everything they have learned, what rang true to them, must be true, so they share with others, and another Master uses what this one wrote to show substance to his teachings, a big circle pointing to another, to confirm a point, but where did it come from in the first place?

as humans we are naturally drawn to those who have knowledge to share, but what is the difference between a story and truth if there is no possible way to confirm or show proof of any of it?

when someone walks into a gathering and says whoa, just had a dream showing the answers to life, and then explains it to the crowd, who sits amazed, but then thinks of what they were taught by the experts, and since it doesn't fit the taught beliefs, it is discarded...

our collective has tossed aside the Masters and are taught by doing and seeing...

I was talking 9/11 conspiracies as a massive hurricane was rolling into the gulf, blood was boiling thinking of everything Daddy Bush has done...

suddenly, the storm redirected for Maine, tearing up the coast to the one responsible...

a voice spoke up and said hey, I live a few miles from there and love my boat...

reality kicked in and the storm was tossed out to sea...

we all have the ability to do this, but what happens if we all start controlling weather...

kids like sunshine, so crops will die...

they can't be in control, so who decides which abilities each of us should have?

who should have the ability to communicate with their spirit?

is it better to let everyone keep chasing the carrot the Master is holding?

maybe confusion is critical for a world this size to continue...

jiminii
30th September 2013, 15:19
[ .... ] I came in with the intention that I can MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. I never expected it to happen but when it did again and again and again and I even picked the weeks myself because I had so much trouble to believe it was really me.[ .... ]


Here I'm confused jim, and here is the problem I am having. You say you came in with the "Intention to make it all happen," but then go on to say "I never expected it to happen." I would have thought that NOT EXPECTING it to happen would cancel out the original intent.

And here is where I'm falling down. I have repeatedly attempted several of the theories you have presented, using thought, in meditation and in normal waking states, coupled with strong INTENTION, for certain things I want to make happen in my life. I am not getting the successes I was aiming for. Now, I assumed that a part of me was NOT EXPECTING it to happen, that I was not capable of doing this, thus a counter-force of my own creation was stifling the process. So is that what's happening here?

Now I read with interest that even though you had INTENT, you did not necessarily EXPECT success, but you were successful anyway, so this gives me reason to believe that even though I may doubt myself, if the INTENT is there I can still achieve what I want. Do you see what I mean?

I am in a different scenario than you. My OT abilities happened by accident when I stopped the rain between two lights on hollywood blvd. That turned on all the thoughts happening one after another. but the negative thoughts would happen too. so I needed the phoenix lectures to teach me how to control both positive and negative thoughts.

for you you would need to go read the phoenix lectures I have in my sticky files in general discussion and it has the technical dictionary. Then you have to practice creating thought without effort because any effort creates counter effort ... the rain always stopped when I was thinking nothing about 15 minutes later.

so when I am thinking nothing there is no effort counter effort and my thoughts happened

jim

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 15:25
:pop2:


Interesting thread.......I'm just here to experience this moment :o

then you need to bring another bag of popcorn

This thread is NOT FREE ... you have to create something

jim

It's OK, he's Canadian eh...

Christine
30th September 2013, 15:26
The JOY is that it is simple.. understanding this unlocks our potential.



LIKE CHILDREN IN A SAND BOX THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO DO.

I believe it is not that simple. Other forces are in action. I actually remember my thoughts from the first time I decided to walk as a toddler. I was sitting on a beach, seeing other children running around and realizing I had to do the same. I remember the feeling of my though: I really had no choice but go and do it, almost like an exasperation about the challenge. Why this obstacle in the attitude? How do you find joy in the challenge...

jagman
30th September 2013, 15:29
I'm a simple man Jim, so for godsake can someone other than Jim explain this thread to me.
No disrespect to Jim intended. I'm trying hard to look behind your words to find meaning.
My results so far are zero. Jim you seem to have a message that your desperate to convey.
My meager mind just had a brilliant idea Jim. Instead of another forum member explaining
the profoundness of your insights, why dont you make a video? I'm a visual person Jim and
I think if I could see you emphasize & pontificate your words with video or audio i might be
able to understand your message.That is what you want isn't it? For the members here to
understand you and get your message in a clear way? Otherwise Jim your alienating a good
portion of the forum. IMHO
Warm regards Jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 15:33
:pop2:


Interesting thread.......I'm just here to experience this moment :o

then you need to bring another bag of popcorn

This thread is NOT FREE ... you have to create something

jim

It's OK, he's Canadian eh...

rocky can you explain to jagman what I am trying to say???

I would use farmers words if it would work

haha

jim

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 15:36
I am here for creating the following:

A way out of the wheel or round of existence. I feel there is a huge manipulation in our world/timeline (in and out) now and that needs to be fixed, otherwise we will just get stuck on life`s carousel or in a crystal on the moon. I do not have any super power that I am aware of but the willing / believing that something need to be done is strong.

what if I said those feelings are a longing to see what your Spirit is doing?

many people feel they need to consciously experience what we are doing without thought

do you need to think about breathing?

many of you since joining Avalon wake tired in the morning after a good nights rest...

dreams are our Spirits reality and how they share things with their conscious self...

some start receiving waking dreams, because info is of critical importance at that moment...

that is how our Spirit guides us through life, many religions like Christianity give credit to a higher power each time a miracle happens, each time insights are given, ideas for inventions...

the higher power in most cases are our own Spirits

you'll know when you meet the big guy, his wife or kid...

there is no mistake, our Spirits are the children of God, with his gifts, though quietly hidden through most people's lives.

We here, have gathered because we woke up, and need to learn why here, why now...

we are living the most exciting book ever written, and it is coming to a climax...

we all can feel it...

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 15:45
I'm a simple man Jim, so for godsake can someone other than Jim explain this thread to me.
No disrespect to Jim intended. I'm trying hard to look behind your words to find meaning.
My results so far are zero. Jim you seem to have a message that your desperate to convey.
My meager mind just had a brilliant idea Jim. Instead of another forum member explaining
the profoundness of your insights, why dont you make a video? I'm a visual person Jim and
I think if I could see you emphasize & pontificate your words with video or audio i might be
able to understand your message.That is what you want isn't it? For the members here to
understand you and get your message in a clear way? Otherwise Jim your alienating a good
portion of the forum. IMHO
Warm regards Jim

Jim,

jagman is an old buddy, we have been through the latest civil war together in America, he is open to learning as all of us, and feels he isn't accomplishing anything, but doesn't understand his Spirit has been fighting for a better world since he arrived, he just doesn't see it through his conscious eyes...

let me share a dream he was with on, we were in Bagdad, went in to move children from an orphanage that was about to be bombed. He took a grenade to protect the children, then stood up and chuckled brushing himself off, spirits don't die...

hocus pocus weather manipulations is below what his spirit has interest in, he is a protector and spends his time helping others...

what doesn't work for him is directing intent at himself...

his spirit doesn't feel it necessary...

jiminii
30th September 2013, 15:52
I'm a simple man Jim, so for godsake can someone other than Jim explain this thread to me.
No disrespect to Jim intended. I'm trying hard to look behind your words to find meaning.
My results so far are zero. Jim you seem to have a message that your desperate to convey.
My meager mind just had a brilliant idea Jim. Instead of another forum member explaining
the profoundness of your insights, why dont you make a video? I'm a visual person Jim and
I think if I could see you emphasize & pontificate your words with video or audio i might be
able to understand your message.That is what you want isn't it? For the members here to
understand you and get your message in a clear way? Otherwise Jim your alienating a good
portion of the forum. IMHO
Warm regards Jim

Jim,

jagman is an old buddy, we have been through the latest civil war together in America, he is open to learning as all of us, and feels he isn't accomplishing anything, but doesn't understand his Spirit has been fighting for a better world since he arrived, he just doesn't see it through his conscious eyes...

ok we will start with who are you.

get the idea of what a dog looks like in your mind.

you should see a picture of a dog.

are you the dog?

no of course not,.

now look at your body.

Are you the body?

no of course not

You are THAT which is LOOKING at the PICTURES in your MIND

You are THAT which is LOOKING at your body.

since the MIND is composed entirely of pictures made out of some kind of physical universe energy that you can read on an ohm meter the electrical resistance of the thoughts in your mind, then are you the MIND?

No you are not the mind but it is a creation that you made so you could have a 3 d pictured memory of your past.

You are the creator of bodies and creator of Ghost that grow bodies and creator of Minds made of pictures but you are none of these.

You are that that makes the decisions and moves the body and does the calculations for this body and mind

that is what you are.

a Creator of this universe you are operating in.

that is what you are.

jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 16:10
ok part 2 CREATION.

we all collectively create and have created this universe we are in and are continually creating it.
so what can you do.

you can create a body and manage it from outside, (spirit operating bodies from outside the body which is more natural and easy to manage).
or you can be trapped inside a body with your memories scrambled and implanted with billions and trillions of pictures that are designed to convince you that you are a body with no spiritual abilities and all your memories miss-dated so it is almost impossible to remember who you are.

they can't kill a spirit but they can trap him and scramble his memories so he can't function very well as a spirit.

what are you capable of doing.

you can run one body on one timeline or many bodies on many other timelines

this means you can be running a body in USA and another in England.

you can also run others too.

for example. You can create a planet like this one and you can create ghost to run human bodies and you can play with them just like children play with dolls and sand castles.

and you can run them all and play games with another spirit on the other side of the planet who creates a lot of bodies and you can make wars with them and anything else you would like to do since they are all your creations.

But you can not create another spirit and you can not kill one. You can break a piece off a spirit and create more spirits but you can not destroy them.

you can destroy a ghost because it is your creation, it is no greater than the trees or plants that are also creations you made. they can all be vanished by duplication of the original creation of them.

so you can also manage them with intention.

you can also manage other spirit beings if you have enough intention to do so.

so there are many things you can do.

do you understand what I just said now?

jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 16:45
ok part 3.

we have to take responsibility for this planet and universe because NO ONE ELSE IS. The cabal is just a bunch of TERRIFIED BEINGS run and controlled by an unfriendly alien that would just a soon eat us like we would eat chicken.

so if we don't take control of these entities than they will take control with their fear mongering.

So how do we do this,

just like I said in part 2.

we can create a planet and create ghost to manage bodies and we can run them.

so we can also do it on this planet.

I would believe that most spirit beings in any of the cabal are heavily impinged upon and would love to be able to get out of this game.

So I would assume that the fear the reptilians have put in them to control them have all the spirit beings in some kind of feared forced mind control.

they could also have these parasites that make them evil too.

WE are spirit beings with infinite potential and we have the power to run it as spirit beings.

I would assume most of the spirits there in the cabal and connected to them are in complete apathy in any ability to break from free them.

but we can run them from outside them. We can KNOW by our own ability to KNOW who we intend to contact.
If we intend to contact policeman then that is what our intention will contact in the spiritual universe

so we can decide how we want all these beings to operate.

With enough intention we would be running them and getting our products and not their destructive products.

we have to do this until we have effectively broke their connections to the unfriendly aliens and make our intentions come true.

this is survival and all of the world is depending on us to do it.

we have the ability to do it.

we only need to decide to do it.
and we can run it all as spirit beings

so I hope you can understand that we are not taking anyone's free choice away but we are stopping those who will make slaves of us and take our free choice away too.

so we can do this if we work together and make targets that will solve this

jim

jagman
30th September 2013, 17:01
I am getting a much clearer picture of what your saying Jim, but I need some clarification
on how you define the word "ghost" For most people Jim, ghosts are spirits of the dead that
manifest into our 3d world for short periods of time.Sometimes they take shape in human form
and sometimes they are just orbs of light. Thank you in advance for the clarification Jim.

ulli
30th September 2013, 17:07
Neither Rocky nor Jim are the best communicators, as their time is spent on the battle fields of the cosmos.
But when they start spirit communication with each other
then whoever is out there who wants to harm Bill or Avalon, had better watch out.
They may have gotten their training in different galaxies but they are both protectors of spirit life,
and well as physical life, and as such are on one and the same team.

jiminii
30th September 2013, 17:22
I am getting a much clearer picture of what your saying Jim, but I need some clarification
on how you define the word "ghost" For most people Jim, ghosts are spirits of the dead that
manifest into our 3d world for short periods of time.Sometimes they take shape in human form
and sometimes they are just orbs of light. Thank you in advance for the clarification Jim.

all life forms have a ghost.

a lion has a lion ghost programmed to operate as a lion

a dog has a dog ghost programmed to operate as a dog

a human has a human ghost programmed to operate as a human.

there can not be life with out them

they function the heartbeat and all the internal functions too.

but they are created in some kind of physical universe time energy and mass and space. they have weight,

a spirit the creator has no weight no mass no location in space or time but has the ability to extend itself from the static life source to create a universe like this,

sometimes a body is violently killed and the ghost leaves the body and wanders around do the same things the person did when he was alive.
usually the ghost stays in the body until everything is dead and then goes looking for another body to create.

these are organic computers these ghost

they learn by repetition and experience and programming.

they can not originate new thought but they can learn new thought from someone who also has a spirit in them,

a large percentage of the planet are run by ghost only bodies.

this is because more bodies are made than we have spirits on the planet to occupy them

these spirits come from other planets as prisoners and are imprisoned in bodies on this planet.

so for example some of these ghost can be engineers but they can't create new thought but they can copy others.

so if we have say 70 percent of the people are ghosts, and 30 percent of the people have spirits in them than it is because more bodies are created than are dumped on the planet.

so we have 7 out of 10 people we can run. So a lot of the people that are in the cabal can be controlled by us if we have a strong enough intention.

and we can change the minds of those spirit beings in the other 30 percent too. Just take enough intention to do it.

and intention is not necessarily something you have to keep you mind on like some kind of work. A spirit can create it in abundance with no effort. He/she only has to decide it that way. It is not like you have to work your mind constantly. Just be there KNOWING that you are keeping it all safe and changing it for the better.

we can decide how we want the situation to go

do you get the idea now?

jim

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 17:28
we both have different styles of communicating which teaches understanding to quiet sleuthers.

most of the active participants at Avalon are silent warriors, happy to stay out of the limelight, and do what needs to be done.

a few of us are crazy enough to say watch this and bend reality for those watching to see.

Jim is painting more of a God 101 training in what he is sharing, I'm just trying to help others just understand themselves...

you don't need to say in the forum, hey I'm here and want to join you, just the thought includes you in what is about to happen.

being willing is the most important part, the longer you participate, the more you start realizing how you are a major part in everything going on around us.

I don't want anyone climbing a building to jump saying I'm a God and can fly...

if that isn't your talent, you're in big trouble...

and ps Jim, if you haven't noticed, we already are controlling the Cabal... and they know it... shhh ;)

jiminii
30th September 2013, 17:36
we both have different styles of communicating which teaches understanding to quiet sleuthers.

most of the active participants at Avalon are silent warriors, happy to stay out of the limelight, and do what needs to be done.

a few of us are crazy enough to say watch this and bend reality for those watching to see.

Jim is painting more of a God 101 training in what he is sharing, I'm just trying to help others just understand themselves...

you don't need to say in the forum, hey I'm here and want to join you, just the thought includes you in what is about to happen.

being willing is the most important part, the longer you participate, the more you start realizing how you are a major part in everything going on around us.

I don't want anyone climbing a building to jump saying I'm a God and can fly...

if that isn't your talent, you're in big trouble...

and ps Jim, if you haven't noticed, we already are controlling the Cabal... and they know it... shhh ;)

that's what I thought too ... just need a little verification to make it a stable datum.

I wasn't worried but now I think we can get others up and running too and little by little this whole thing will kick in and ....

well ... what ever you're dreaming .... we can create.


jim

jiminii
30th September 2013, 18:06
I am getting a much clearer picture of what your saying Jim, but I need some clarification
on how you define the word "ghost" For most people Jim, ghosts are spirits of the dead that
manifest into our 3d world for short periods of time.Sometimes they take shape in human form
and sometimes they are just orbs of light. Thank you in advance for the clarification Jim.

all life forms have a ghost.

a lion has a lion ghost programmed to operate as a lion

a dog has a dog ghost programmed to operate as a dog

a human has a human ghost programmed to operate as a human.

there can not be life with out them

they function the heartbeat and all the internal functions too.

but they are created in some kind of physical universe time energy and mass and space. they have weight,

a spirit the creator has no weight no mass no location in space or time but has the ability to extend itself from the static life source to create a universe like this,

sometimes a body is violently killed and the ghost leaves the body and wanders around do the same things the person did when he was alive.
usually the ghost stays in the body until everything is dead and then goes looking for another body to create.

these are organic computers these ghost

they learn by repetition and experience and programming.

they can not originate new thought but they can learn new thought from someone who also has a spirit in them,

a large percentage of the planet are run by ghost only bodies.

this is because more bodies are made than we have spirits on the planet to occupy them

these spirits come from other planets as prisoners and are imprisoned in bodies on this planet.

so for example some of these ghost can be engineers but they can't create new thought but they can copy others.

so if we have say 70 percent of the people are ghosts, and 30 percent of the people have spirits in them than it is because more bodies are created than are dumped on the planet.

so we have 7 out of 10 people we can run. So a lot of the people that are in the cabal can be controlled by us if we have a strong enough intention.

and we can change the minds of those spirit beings in the other 30 percent too. Just take enough intention to do it.

and intention is not necessarily something you have to keep you mind on like some kind of work. A spirit can create it in abundance with no effort. He/she only has to decide it that way. It is not like you have to work your mind constantly. Just be there KNOWING that you are keeping it all safe and changing it for the better.

we can decide how we want the situation to go

do you get the idea now?

jim

edited for more clarity

chocolate
30th September 2013, 18:15
I came to PA I think for many reasons, but the most important one was to meet someone like jim. And somehow, as if it were ready and waiting to be discovered they came to life, my newly discovered abilities.

So, I tried, as the kid in the sand, and it worked. Several times. Now I know it is for real, but I also know it is very easy for many other people like me to live their entire life without realizing their potential and birthright. That is why I sometimes share what I think I can do. Some people see me as a nutcase, while others just wonder if that could be possible. ;)

Now I will try to navigate my life to where I want it to be so that I can be most helpful to life and everyone else.

And for everyone with more logical approach to life, I stand here, crazy or not, after quite some homework being done. It is not based on pure desire or intention, it has been experienced and evaluated with logic, knowledge and left brain understanding, too.

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 18:32
ever been in a hurry to get to work, something very important to you to be in time for...

every single light on the way to work green...

now only a week later, needing to be to work or you will get in trouble, and every single light catches you with a red?

your desire to be there for something special, made it happen...

hitting every red light you made happen also, taunting trouble, but having a reason...

something might be going on very important and your spirit slowed you down to communicate while your mind is quiet waiting for lights to change...

Agape
30th September 2013, 18:36
JiminJill ,

I don't exactly understand 'what is that you are doing there ' but to be most honest, I seldom understand what is that anyone is doing here besides sharing news and views.
Where your personal experiences are concerned , I take you're seeking some sort of therapeutic advice from Bill Ryan and that Bill is supportive in you using the forum as playground .

Forgive me to say this but I see you're being a game, with Bill in your back. If you were serious , like anyone else who come to talk about their reality issues it would look different , it'd feel different .

The trick is that when we come to share something with utmost seriousness , it's seldom responded to , attended fairly . As if all that is presented in more than your playful mode rises a 'Red Flag' , suspicions, cautions .

I've experienced this on my skin and it did not change a lot till now , and it's not only Avalon policy , it's potentially, every other place on the net .
It feels like having a string attached from the other side saying : Beware this is Agape, do not reply .
Do you really think that I'll bother to share highly sensitive information , other than references on web to bunch of fellows who do not bother to know me personally ?

Who feel cautions from one little girl ? That I am here to share some secrets that are automatically labeled suspicious from the start ?

As it goes with you, and from what I could see with couple of others, you can continue sharing your unique views , and nothing wrong with doing so , as long as you feel Bill is supportive and interested in you .

Not many others can claim the same .

I have had important information to discuss , posted in Witness section almost 3 years ago, then Bill was busy , things changed, does not matter . We're still here .

The trick is that when situations turn up for real in life, it's not possible to manipulate them according to your 'views' everyday and make it look like a game , I guess .

Beyond everything and that's no news in my life whatsoever, I am sort of allergic to 'human smart a$$es' , that's one reason why I said 'purify your intentions' to get to the next stage .

By this playful smartness so common on the web, you can get pretty well around, around and nowhere else , you make great rounds , you can get proficient and efficient in dealing with people but you will always be a game .

I think it's general human tendency, 'playing things around' , till they can be played .


The reason why I dare to say this openly is because I mean absolutely no harm .

I did not come here out of curiosity, I did not come here to play games, I did not come here without knowledge , and I certainly mean no harm. I'm 100% sure about it .
And in the same manner as when 5 year old is accused of wrong doing by smart and forgetful adult whom he/she trusted, and finds out that it's the 'adult nature' of the adult who will continue seeking blame in the kid, no matter where the truth is,

it keeps reminding me of those times , and I doubt , through all my own chaotic expression and grammatical mistakes that I AM being misunderstood .


:car::car::car:

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2013, 18:42
we both have different styles of communicating which teaches understanding to quiet sleuthers.

most of the active participants at Avalon are silent warriors, happy to stay out of the limelight, and do what needs to be done.

a few of us are crazy enough to say watch this and bend reality for those watching to see.

Jim is painting more of a God 101 training in what he is sharing, I'm just trying to help others just understand themselves...

you don't need to say in the forum, hey I'm here and want to join you, just the thought includes you in what is about to happen.

being willing is the most important part, the longer you participate, the more you start realizing how you are a major part in everything going on around us.

I don't want anyone climbing a building to jump saying I'm a God and can fly...

if that isn't your talent, you're in big trouble...

and ps Jim, if you haven't noticed, we already are controlling the Cabal... and they know it... shhh ;)

that's what I thought too ... just need a little verification to make it a stable datum.

I wasn't worried but now I think we can get others up and running too and little by little this whole thing will kick in and ....

well ... what ever you're dreaming .... we can create.


jim

when the cabal first sent Charles with the 33, notice the post number you answered...

their intent was to divide Avalon...

but it bounced back and instead the 33 was fragmented, and split their power base by having them struggle between each other instead of holding control of the planet.

Avalon's collective divided influencing the group we have the most influence over.

now the controllers are being controlled, we reverse hacked into the AI and now can use it along with our other talents for whatever we feel necessary.

each time they get close to succeeding on one of their evil plots, we quietly grab the rug and yank it out from under them... then disappear...

instead of making them stumble it is time to convince them it is time to step down... by now they are realizing their plans will never succeed...

Robin
30th September 2013, 19:00
there is a saying I got from something that might come from the Dao .. in I Ching somewhere and that is this.

The way of Heaven is Easy

The way of Earth is simple


So imagine being a spirit being with infinite potential ...

Just IMAGINE IT !!!!!!


now WE ARE THAT


WE ARE AN ELEPHANT

but we've been IMPLANTED to BELIEVE we are just an ANT.

So how do we Change this?????

I'd actually argue that being labeled as an ant is a good thing. Ants are the most amazing creatures in that they are literally the most adaptable organism on the planet. They come in all shapes and sizes and specialize in different means of living. Ants are self-sustainable gardeners, caring parents, savvy bridge-builders, remarkable raft-weavers, and the best of friends to those that benefit them.

Ants find a way to cooperate with one another to achieve the most complicated and difficult of tasks. They share the work load and intelligently sparse different tasks among its workers to ensure the survival of the colony and perpetuation of the species. They are hardy creatures that can literally sense earthquakes and heavy rainfall before they happen. They get rid of the most dangerous parasites by enlisting the help of those who benefit them.

Elephants, on the other hand, are just big creatures. Yes, they are intelligent and consciously aware of themselves, but size does not matter. They are helpless to the onslaught of ivory poachers. Ants, on the other hand, have resisted chemical warfare by people who seek to get rid of them. They die in large numbers but quickly rebound.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4SiWDIoFhE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7H6L78mt_I

johnf
30th September 2013, 19:24
Your post brings up a lot for me Jimini.
First of all the most obvious outcome of reading it was to have this desire for everyone on the planet to feel compasion
on a very real level. To feel the consequences of their thoughts and actions as they are having them, and acting on them.
and experience these AS the other people affected.
At the same time they would experience the support of those in the universe who have gone through this process themselves,
to help them through it.

The second big effect made by reading your post was the wish to hear more about the clay demonstration stuff.
I was often disappointed by the results of my clay work in study, it really seemed like it was a real powerfull
technique.
I think that many could benefit here by a more lengthy description of it.

Also , did you ever experience any clay processing, I heard about that never experienced it.

jf

onawah
30th September 2013, 19:53
I like what Bashar says about how our Higher Self knows what to do, but when we try to use our mind to manifest what we want, it just gets in the way.
When it comes to world events, I like to just align myself continuously with the Highest Good for All and flow with that energy.
Then I don't have to try to figure out what is best for anyone, or control anything or anybody; a game plan both so simple and elegant that, for me, in the final analysis, it is the only thing that really makes sense.

ulli
30th September 2013, 20:28
I like what Bashar says about how our Higher Self knows what to do, but when we try to use our mind to manifest what we want, it just gets in the way.
When it comes to world events, I like to just align myself continuously with the Highest Good for All and flow with that energy.
Then I don't have to try to figure out what is best for anyone, or control anything or anybody; a game plan both so simple and elegant that, for me, in the final analysis, it is the only thing that really makes sense.

I totally agree with this, except that there are certain situations where I would want to do my part,
and then there are things I leave to the Highest of all Selves.
Which brings to mind the Serenity Prayer...
equally 'Thy Will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.'

But where does one draw the line?
Since we all have different capacities here, and our own capacity can vary from day to day,
dependent on illness, or mood, or moments of hopelessness...no one can really judge.
This is where we all have to trust that we are each doing our best, and if or when we fail
that things can still be taken care of in our absence.
Humanity will never be left alone.
Finding the higher plan is the task before us and when we found it put all our efforts into play.

Cara
1st October 2013, 00:31
it is JUST LIKE A CHILD PLAYING WITH SAND CASTLES. He/she has ALL THEIR INTENTION ON THE CREATION. and the sand castle gets made and all the little dolls he plays with just do what he wants.

THAT IS WHAT WE MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR. we must as a group, take responsibility for the LACK OF responsibility of all these spirits in apathy being controlled by INSANE TERRIFIED WAR MONGERS. they are Bringing us into their INSANITY and they REALLY ARE TERRIFIED spirits afraid everyone is trying to get them,

so we take control spiritually all those we can electronically but I need those who can make a plan who KNOWS what we have to do to change it, to come up with a plan and we work it and see what appears in the physical universe.

get the idea?

Honestly no, but it's ok. I won't try to guess or force myself to understand. I believe that I should be able to connect with the message. If it doesn't flow, it's just not meant for me. Wish you well. :)

onawah
1st October 2013, 04:08
I also feel there are situations where I want to "do my part" in my everyday life, but in the larger picture, when it's not really clear to me what needs to be done, I feel it's best to turn it over to my Higher Self.
I think that I am here to learn from my experiences, and if I don't engage at all, I won't learn, so where I feel confident and competent to engage, I will.
As you say, Ulli, we each have to figure out where to draw that line for us as individuals.
And often what I discover is that what I once thought to be true wasn't true at all, and so I am thankful that in many situations I didn't act on what I thought I knew, particularly when it would have affected others in some very direct way.
It seems like, in many ways, the more I learn, the less I realize I know.




I like what Bashar says about how our Higher Self knows what to do, but when we try to use our mind to manifest what we want, it just gets in the way.
When it comes to world events, I like to just align myself continuously with the Highest Good for All and flow with that energy.
Then I don't have to try to figure out what is best for anyone, or control anything or anybody; a game plan both so simple and elegant that, for me, in the final analysis, it is the only thing that really makes sense.

I totally agree with this, except that there are certain situations where I would want to do my part,
and then there are things I leave to the Highest of all Selves.
Which brings to mind the Serenity Prayer...
equally 'Thy Will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.'

But where does one draw the line?
Since we all have different capacities here, and our own capacity can vary from day to day,
dependent on illness, or mood, or moments of hopelessness...no one can really judge.
This is where we all have to trust that we are each doing our best, and if or when we fail
that things can still be taken care of in our absence.
Humanity will never be left alone.
Finding the higher plan is the task before us and when we found it put all our efforts into play.

jiminii
1st October 2013, 05:09
I also feel there are situations where I want to "do my part" in my everyday life, but in the larger picture, when it's not really clear to me what needs to be done, I feel it's best to turn it over to my Higher Self.
I think that I am here to learn from my experiences, and if I don't engage at all, I won't learn, so where I feel confident and competent to engage, I will.
As you say, Ulli, we each have to figure out where to draw that line for us as individuals.
And often what I discover is that what I once thought to be true wasn't true at all, and so I am thankful that in many situations I didn't act on what I thought I knew, particularly when it would have affected others in some very direct way.
It seems like, in many ways, the more I learn, the less I realize I know.




I like what Bashar says about how our Higher Self knows what to do, but when we try to use our mind to manifest what we want, it just gets in the way.
When it comes to world events, I like to just align myself continuously with the Highest Good for All and flow with that energy.
Then I don't have to try to figure out what is best for anyone, or control anything or anybody; a game plan both so simple and elegant that, for me, in the final analysis, it is the only thing that really makes sense.

I totally agree with this, except that there are certain situations where I would want to do my part,
and then there are things I leave to the Highest of all Selves.
Which brings to mind the Serenity Prayer...
equally 'Thy Will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.'

But where does one draw the line?
Since we all have different capacities here, and our own capacity can vary from day to day,
dependent on illness, or mood, or moments of hopelessness...no one can really judge.
This is where we all have to trust that we are each doing our best, and if or when we fail
that things can still be taken care of in our absence.
Humanity will never be left alone.
Finding the higher plan is the task before us and when we found it put all our efforts into play.

it doesn't have to be so complicated as this.

(awake after a nights sleep).

it is like this:

each is handling their own areas of expertise

now just raise that level one higher.

as a body what can you do?

probably just go into apathy.

but as a powerful spirit being how would you solve it???

like handling the floods in Colorado. WE more or less stopped it. It wasn't perfect but in the beginning it never is. Each time you realize their might have been a better way to do it. But you don't cave in and say, "oh god ... I feel terrible ... I made a mistake" and then stop what you are doing.

the truth is this planet is just a prison and we have to get our abilities back so we can return to where we can handle much bigger territories that need to be handled too.

If you make the MEST universe important, (Matter, Energy, Space and Time), then you will not be able to get any powers back for fear of making mistakes.

We do some damage in our learning but it is much more important to do the learning for the future of not only this planet but the entire Galaxies surrounding us.

So we make mistakes but that is always part of the learning.

so back to how to handle this.

Each person has an area of expertise. He KNOWS this area better than anything else.

so when you bring your data to Avalon then give us also a solution.

the solution would be a spiritual solution something a creator can do. Only YOU KNOW THE BEST SOLUTIONS from your own Knowledge so you present your solutions and others come up with theirs and then we find a solution we can all agree on.

then we don't have to think about it anymore, (so our postulates will go into the physical universe and happen).

we start on the next one get a solution and forget about it so the spirit part of us can just GO THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF PRODUCING IT.

I did it in the beginning by making the postulate and then forgetting about it.
and it would happen when I was thinking nothing.

SO an important part of this is to produce a solution and then Let it go so it will happen,

do you see what I mean?


jim

jiminii
1st October 2013, 06:00
[QUOTE=jiminii;737192]there is a saying I got from something that might come from the Dao .. in I Ching somewhere and that is this.

The way of Heaven is Easy

The way of Earth is simple


So imagine being a spirit being with infinite potential ...

Just IMAGINE IT !!!!!!


now WE ARE THAT


WE ARE AN ELEPHANT

but we've been IMPLANTED to BELIEVE we are just an ANT.

So how do we Change this?????


I'd actually argue that being labeled as an ant is a good thing. Ants are the most amazing creatures in that they are literally the most adaptable organism on the planet. They come in all shapes and sizes and specialize in different means of living. Ants are self-sustainable gardeners, caring parents, savvy bridge-builders, remarkable raft-weavers, and the best of friends to those that benefit them.

Ants find a way to cooperate with one another to achieve the most complicated and difficult of tasks. They share the work load and intelligently sparse different tasks among its workers to ensure the survival of the colony and perpetuation of the species. They are hardy creatures that can literally sense earthquakes and heavy rainfall before they happen. They get rid of the most dangerous parasites by enlisting the help of those who benefit them.

Elephants, on the other hand, are just big creatures. Yes, they are intelligent and consciously aware of themselves, but size does not matter. They are helpless to the onslaught of ivory poachers. Ants, on the other hand, have resisted chemical warfare by people who seek to get rid of them. They die in large numbers but quickly rebound.

I am talking as spirit beings that can control huge areas as to those who can only control small areas.

Elephants can cover huge areas quickly where it would take ants a long time to cover the same amount of territory.

but an Ant hill is usually RUN entirely by ONE SPIRIT BEING.

so gives you the idea of how much one spirit being can manage.

jim

jiminii
1st October 2013, 06:08
Your post brings up a lot for me Jimini.
First of all the most obvious outcome of reading it was to have this desire for everyone on the planet to feel compasion
on a very real level. To feel the consequences of their thoughts and actions as they are having them, and acting on them.
and experience these AS the other people affected.
At the same time they would experience the support of those in the universe who have gone through this process themselves,
to help them through it.

The second big effect made by reading your post was the wish to hear more about the clay demonstration stuff.
I was often disappointed by the results of my clay work in study, it really seemed like it was a real powerfull
technique.
I think that many could benefit here by a more lengthy description of it.

Also , did you ever experience any clay processing, I heard about that never experienced it.

jf

we do it in scientology. We have to show a situation all in clay. So we create a little man and a spirit and all the lines and the thoughts must be made in clay with clay lines going to each. WE put the message or situation we are describing on a piece of paper face down. we put what each object is written on a small piece of paper, like communication line, boy, girl, house, window, clay arrows to show direction and everything is in clay

then the person must tell you what the situation is and if it is the same situation that you wrote on the piece of paper then you pass the clay demo.

jim

jiminii
1st October 2013, 06:11
I like what Bashar says about how our Higher Self knows what to do, but when we try to use our mind to manifest what we want, it just gets in the way.
When it comes to world events, I like to just align myself continuously with the Highest Good for All and flow with that energy.
Then I don't have to try to figure out what is best for anyone, or control anything or anybody; a game plan both so simple and elegant that, for me, in the final analysis, it is the only thing that really makes sense.

then intention is the important part ... not how you do it. and is workable. but you can also contribute to other people's intentions too if you agree to them.

jim

ulli
1st October 2013, 10:09
it doesn't have to be so complicated as this.

(awake after a nights sleep).

it is like this:

each is handling their own areas of expertise

now just raise that level one higher.

as a body what can you do?

probably just go into apathy.

but as a powerful spirit being how would you solve it???

like handling the floods in Colorado. WE more or less stopped it. It wasn't perfect but in the beginning it never is. Each time you realize their might have been a better way to do it. But you don't cave in and say, "oh god ... I feel terrible ... I made a mistake" and then stop what you are doing.

the truth is this planet is just a prison and we have to get our abilities back so we can return to where we can handle much bigger territories that need to be handled too.

If you make the MEST universe important, (Matter, Energy, Space and Time), then you will not be able to get any powers back for fear of making mistakes.

We do some damage in our learning but it is much more important to do the learning for the future of not only this planet but the entire Galaxies surrounding us.

So we make mistakes but that is always part of the learning.

so back to how to handle this.

Each person has an area of expertise. He KNOWS this area better than anything else.

so when you bring your data to Avalon then give us also a solution.

the solution would be a spiritual solution something a creator can do. Only YOU KNOW THE BEST SOLUTIONS from your own Knowledge so you present your solutions and others come up with theirs and then we find a solution we can all agree on.

then we don't have to think about it anymore, (so our postulates will go into the physical universe and happen).

we start on the next one get a solution and forget about it so the spirit part of us can just GO THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF PRODUCING IT.

I did it in the beginning by making the postulate and then forgetting about it.
and it would happen when I was thinking nothing.

SO an important part of this is to produce a solution and then Let it go so it will happen,

do you see what I mean?


jim

What you say here, Jim, makes total sense. Once we can see it from that larger perspective, that we have the right to experiment, and if we don't do it we will never learn as a species. This weather control thingy might take us 500 years to get right, and as pioneers we couldn't help but make a mess.
And women on the whole hate messing up far more than men do, although I don't want to go to the gender argument...anyway, this is not an argument, more of an explanation why some wouldn't touch weather control wit a barge pole. They wouldn't want the consequences of suffering inflicted on their conscience.

And this is possibly all about conscience in the end, which in turn depends on the inner belief or conviction what we came here to do.
Talking of conscience, what about bureaucrats whose belief is to maintain the status quo at all cost, and prohibit architects to design energy effective houses? What about ship captains who have to decide who goes into life boats when the ship is sinking...which life to save and which to spare?

Once conscience wakes up no one will walk away guilt-free, no in this life.
So the only thing left for each and every one is to look for a spiritual meaning of their lives, probe into questions of what happens after death, or before birth, and then do the most authentic thing possible in that context.

By the way, did I mentions that I had hurricane Ivan do two by-passes, one around Barbados and the other around Jamaica? And those poor islands that got hit exactly when I was celebrating my discovery that, yes, I could do this stuff? The Cayman Islands got hit because I tried to a avoid the Yucatan Peninsula and Cuba, and thinking at the time, f9ck them, they only exist as an offshore bank anyway.
As someone who is a Caribbean citizen one cannot NOT look at the need to control these monsters,
which is not an easy thing to do.
Like taking a dinosaur for a walk on a leash.
The main rules to apply are these: keep them over water, reduce their spinning action, chop off the tops of the cloud with some high winds.

jiminii
1st October 2013, 10:51
it doesn't have to be so complicated as this.

(awake after a nights sleep).

it is like this:

each is handling their own areas of expertise

now just raise that level one higher.

as a body what can you do?

probably just go into apathy.

but as a powerful spirit being how would you solve it???

like handling the floods in Colorado. WE more or less stopped it. It wasn't perfect but in the beginning it never is. Each time you realize their might have been a better way to do it. But you don't cave in and say, "oh god ... I feel terrible ... I made a mistake" and then stop what you are doing.

the truth is this planet is just a prison and we have to get our abilities back so we can return to where we can handle much bigger territories that need to be handled too.

If you make the MEST universe important, (Matter, Energy, Space and Time), then you will not be able to get any powers back for fear of making mistakes.

We do some damage in our learning but it is much more important to do the learning for the future of not only this planet but the entire Galaxies surrounding us.

So we make mistakes but that is always part of the learning.

so back to how to handle this.

Each person has an area of expertise. He KNOWS this area better than anything else.

so when you bring your data to Avalon then give us also a solution.

the solution would be a spiritual solution something a creator can do. Only YOU KNOW THE BEST SOLUTIONS from your own Knowledge so you present your solutions and others come up with theirs and then we find a solution we can all agree on.

then we don't have to think about it anymore, (so our postulates will go into the physical universe and happen).

we start on the next one get a solution and forget about it so the spirit part of us can just GO THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF PRODUCING IT.

I did it in the beginning by making the postulate and then forgetting about it.
and it would happen when I was thinking nothing.

SO an important part of this is to produce a solution and then Let it go so it will happen,

do you see what I mean?


jim

What you say here, Jim, makes total sense. Once we can see it from that larger perspective, that we have the right to experiment, and if we don't do it we will never learn as a species. This weather control thingy might take us 500 years to get right, and as pioneers we couldn't help but make a mess.
And women on the whole hate messing up far more than men do, although I don't want to go to the gender argument...anyway, this is not an argument, more of an explanation why some wouldn't touch weather control wit a barge pole. They wouldn't want the consequences of suffering inflicted on their conscience.

And this is possibly all about conscience in the end, which in turn depends on the inner belief or conviction what we came here to do.
Talking of conscience, what about bureaucrats whose belief is to maintain the status quo at all cost, and prohibit architects to design energy effective houses? What about ship captains who have to decide who goes into life boats when the ship is sinking...which life to save and which to spare?

Once conscience wakes up no one will walk away guilt-free, no in this life.
So the only thing left for each and every one is to look for a spiritual meaning of their lives, probe into questions of what happens after death, or before birth, and then do the most authentic thing possible in that context.

By the way, did I mentions that I had hurricane Ivan do two by-passes, one around Barbados and the other around Jamaica? And those poor islands that got hit exactly when I was celebrating my discovery that, yes, I could do this stuff? The Cayman Islands got hit because I tried to a avoid the Yucatan Peninsula and Cuba, and thinking at the time, f9ck them, they only exist as an offshore bank anyway.
As someone who is a Caribbean citizen one cannot NOT look at the need to control these monsters,
which is not an easy thing to do.
Like taking a dinosaur for a walk on a leash.
The main rules to apply are these: keep them over water, reduce their spinning action, chop off the tops of the cloud with some high winds.

we are sitting in a much worse scenario a few hundred years from now. I mean we are sitting back in an earlier time that is totally ok to experiment with since the future can't get any worse EVER.

so while we are monkeying around with weather, (this is my more humorous feeling .. don't make it serious), we could probably have so much chaos going on with weather practice that the bankers will just give up and say ... "hey we quit .... if you will please stop screwing around with the weather ... we will share the money with you."

well now I got myself laughing again .... needed that one.

jim

jiminii
1st October 2013, 14:53
it doesn't have to be so complicated as this.

(awake after a nights sleep).

it is like this:

each is handling their own areas of expertise

now just raise that level one higher.

as a body what can you do?

probably just go into apathy.

but as a powerful spirit being how would you solve it???

like handling the floods in Colorado. WE more or less stopped it. It wasn't perfect but in the beginning it never is. Each time you realize their might have been a better way to do it. But you don't cave in and say, "oh god ... I feel terrible ... I made a mistake" and then stop what you are doing.

the truth is this planet is just a prison and we have to get our abilities back so we can return to where we can handle much bigger territories that need to be handled too.

If you make the MEST universe important, (Matter, Energy, Space and Time), then you will not be able to get any powers back for fear of making mistakes.

We do some damage in our learning but it is much more important to do the learning for the future of not only this planet but the entire Galaxies surrounding us.

So we make mistakes but that is always part of the learning.

so back to how to handle this.

Each person has an area of expertise. He KNOWS this area better than anything else.

so when you bring your data to Avalon then give us also a solution.

the solution would be a spiritual solution something a creator can do. Only YOU KNOW THE BEST SOLUTIONS from your own Knowledge so you present your solutions and others come up with theirs and then we find a solution we can all agree on.

then we don't have to think about it anymore, (so our postulates will go into the physical universe and happen).

we start on the next one get a solution and forget about it so the spirit part of us can just GO THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF PRODUCING IT.

I did it in the beginning by making the postulate and then forgetting about it.
and it would happen when I was thinking nothing.

SO an important part of this is to produce a solution and then Let it go so it will happen,

do you see what I mean?


jim

What you say here, Jim, makes total sense. Once we can see it from that larger perspective, that we have the right to experiment, and if we don't do it we will never learn as a species. This weather control thingy might take us 500 years to get right, and as pioneers we couldn't help but make a mess.
And women on the whole hate messing up far more than men do, although I don't want to go to the gender argument...anyway, this is not an argument, more of an explanation why some wouldn't touch weather control wit a barge pole. They wouldn't want the consequences of suffering inflicted on their conscience.

And this is possibly all about conscience in the end, which in turn depends on the inner belief or conviction what we came here to do.
Talking of conscience, what about bureaucrats whose belief is to maintain the status quo at all cost, and prohibit architects to design energy effective houses? What about ship captains who have to decide who goes into life boats when the ship is sinking...which life to save and which to spare?

Once conscience wakes up no one will walk away guilt-free, no in this life.
So the only thing left for each and every one is to look for a spiritual meaning of their lives, probe into questions of what happens after death, or before birth, and then do the most authentic thing possible in that context.

By the way, did I mentions that I had hurricane Ivan do two by-passes, one around Barbados and the other around Jamaica? And those poor islands that got hit exactly when I was celebrating my discovery that, yes, I could do this stuff? The Cayman Islands got hit because I tried to a avoid the Yucatan Peninsula and Cuba, and thinking at the time, f9ck them, they only exist as an offshore bank anyway.
As someone who is a Caribbean citizen one cannot NOT look at the need to control these monsters,
which is not an easy thing to do.
Like taking a dinosaur for a walk on a leash.
The main rules to apply are these: keep them over water, reduce their spinning action, chop off the tops of the cloud with some high winds.

your post and the weather made me laugh

jim

ulli
1st October 2013, 14:57
your post and the weather made me laugh

jim

Good. People like you deserve to be kept happy.