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jack
3rd October 2010, 21:51
Its really awesome for sharing videos, websites, messages, everythin! I never really used it before but lately since hooking up my youtube channel I can see how handy it is for sharing vids and information without having to go through the long process of making up a post or whatever.

Mine is "Reiki masterr" (with two r's)

avid
3rd October 2010, 22:08
Yep - but we like to have a more focussed discussion in specialist sites, and some of us still would like anonymity as our views can be quite controversial. Facebook (even though they claim privacy etc) still can troll our messages and send 'key words' to the 'Listeners'. In fact nothing can really get past these damned internet trawling devices any more - so as long as we aren't planning anything devious, our sensible views will just be 'dismissed'. I'd like to stay with our special interest groups outside of Facebook - and I reckon that in itself is IMPORTANT.

Carmody
3rd October 2010, 22:23
No Facebook in my life. Even though I have a huge extended family on it right now. I'm missing my 'place' in about 200+ relatives, alone, is my guess. Besides friends and whatnot.

Like when Hunter S Thompson was talking about being chased by the cop in 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas', he said, "Make the Barsteward work for it".


I was never here.

Forget everything you've heard..and go back to sleep.

HORIZONS
3rd October 2010, 22:38
Facebook can be handy, but should be used wisely, as what you say can and will be used against you. I do not worry about what ptb, or anyone else, is finding out about me on it - if the ptb's want to know what I am up to they have a myriad of ways to do so - and they probably already know more about me than I do anyway. Privacy is a thing of the past, and anyone can find out whatever they want about you, or me, if they really want to and have the right connections. It's all a game so why not enjoy it, and living in fear of the ptb's is exactly what they want you to do.

avid
3rd October 2010, 22:38
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/facebook-at-517-million-users-suppresses-et-ufo-disclosure-with-cointelpro-spying-censorship

should be of interest... !

avid
3rd October 2010, 22:46
Facebook at 517 million users suppresses ET/UFO disclosure with cointelpro spying, censorship
October 1st, 2010 1:20 am PT

With the premiere of a blockbuster movie The Social Network (Tagline: “You don't get to 500 million friends without making a few enemies”), social network website Facebook.com - whose approximately 517,760,460 current members now total 7.6 % of the human race - has become the online emblem of virtual society in first decade of the 21st century.

Facebook.com has, by publicly reported evidence, become a covert data mine of Facebook users personal data and habits, at a time when Facebook’s 517 million members now number nearly 30% of all 1.9 billion Internet users on the planet.

Facebook.com is more than a covert data mine.

Facebook.com is, by the evidence, an instrument of information warfare and attack against Facebook users whose actions fall within specific clandestine surveillance guidelines established by DARPA and the U.S. Department of Defense Information Awareness Office.[

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http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/facebook-at-517-million-users-suppresses-et-ufo-disclosure-with-cointelpro-spying-censorship

lightblue
3rd October 2010, 22:51
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HORIZONS
3rd October 2010, 23:00
Cell phone, email, web chat forums or any other type of electronic data is screened and available to ptb if they want access to your life. NOTHING is secure, and we delude ourselves if we think there is private information in this day and age. The technologies we know about are just the tip of the iceberg.

norman
3rd October 2010, 23:02
I've wanted to chat to old lost friends that my google searches have traced to Facebook accounts but I'm reluctant to sign up to any more websites. I'm getting very fed up with clicking "I've read the above terms" buttons.

If I read any more one sided textual monologues by corporate lawyers declaring that THEY can do ANYTHING and I can do NOTHING, I'll pop a blood vessel.

lightblue
3rd October 2010, 23:09
Re: You guys use facebook?

Cell phone, email, web chat forums or any other type of electronic data is screened and available to ptb if they want access to your life. NOTHING is secure, and we delude ourselves if we think there is private information in this day and age. The technologies we know about are just the tip of the iceberg.




i know...you could see my unattended to window boxes on street google...i was schocked at first... i then switched to geraniums.. :wink: l


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jack
3rd October 2010, 23:17
Ive always assumed that facebook was some kind of government data mining facility, but still, Its a fantastic way to get videos out there to people who would otherwise not find them. These guys have a lot of systems that we can use to our advantage and facebook is definitly one of them!

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I've wanted to chat to old lost friends that my google searches have traced to Facebook accounts but I'm reluctant to sign up to any more websites. I'm getting very fed up with clicking "I've read the above terms" buttons.

If I read any more one sided textual monologues by corporate lawyers declaring that THEY can do ANYTHING and I can do NOTHING, I'll pop a blood vessel.

LOL norman :D

p.s - im f00ked (excuse the french, blood vessel) if im going to hide in the shadows. If these guys want my information they can have it! They will probably get it elsewhere anyways, the level of technology is such that im pretty damned sure that if they wanted too under some kind of terrorist statute they could find out the name and address of my isp account and track my every movement through the web. Me being here means they know all about me, if they really really wanted im sure they could even give a little phonecall, I just cant see how being on facebook is going to make things worse. And i really hope this doesnt turn out like an irn bru ad lol

Carmody
3rd October 2010, 23:20
To use a system is to become dependent upon it is to become lost without it.

HORIZONS
3rd October 2010, 23:21
i know...you could see my unattended to window boxes on street google...i was schocked at first... i then switched to geraniums.. :wink: l


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LOL!!! I hope no one is looking at my overgrown garden, they might think differently of me if they are. :;):

jack
3rd October 2010, 23:25
I hope they didnt notice the unatended burning candles id left near my curtains!







http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2009/12/burninghouse.jpg

Fredkc
3rd October 2010, 23:27
Yes, I do have an account. I visit quite regularly. All it takes is about 3-4 months of pestering, and I go visit.

Mind you, it's just an opinion but...
I would rather go out for a night on the town licking random bus station toilets seats, than spend my time of FaceBook.

Your mileage may vary ;)
Fred

Arpheus
3rd October 2010, 23:37
Yes, I do have an account. I visit quite regularly. All it takes is about 3-4 months of pestering, and I go visit.

Mind you, it's just an opinion but...
I would rather go out for a night on the town licking random bus station toilets seats, than spend my time of FaceBook.

Your mileage may vary ;)
Fred

Rofl fred man your funny let me tell ya i am glad i wasnt drinking anything as i was reading this cause i would have spitted all over my monitor hah.

lightblue
3rd October 2010, 23:46
horizons:
LOL!!! I hope no one is looking at my overgrown garden, they might think differently of me if they are. ::


nothing to get spooked about..they might just like to keep an eye on your gardening tools.. l


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcvGOUuDGXc

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Carmody
3rd October 2010, 23:51
Yes, I do have an account. I visit quite regularly. All it takes is about 3-4 months of pestering, and I go visit.

Mind you, it's just an opinion but...
I would rather go out for a night on the town licking random bus station toilets seats, than spend my time of FaceBook.

Your mileage may vary ;)
Fred

Would you devise a plan? Like using the random # generator on your HP portable to generate the 'dice roll'?

Beth
3rd October 2010, 23:55
p.s - im f00ked (excuse the french, blood vessel) if im going to hide in the shadows. If these guys want my information they can have it! They will probably get it elsewhere anyways, the level of technology is such that im pretty damned sure that if they wanted too under some kind of terrorist statute they could find out the name and address of my isp account and track my every movement through the web. Me being here means they know all about me, if they really really wanted im sure they could even give a little phonecall, I just cant see how being on facebook is going to make things worse. And i really hope this doesnt turn out like an irn bru ad lol

Yep, exactly Jack.

ascendingstarseed
4th October 2010, 00:18
I know nothing is secure and privacy is a thing of the past, but I prefer not to lay my life out in the open for the ptb to use against me if they should decide to round everyone up who isn't in lockstep with societal norms, those who speaks out against the power structure or who may offer a way to escape the matrix. IMO flying under the radar is safer than laying my life out for the CIA or anyone else to easily srcutinize...

Bill Ryan
4th October 2010, 00:20
No : I don't like or trust it.

HORIZONS
4th October 2010, 00:32
I know nothing is secure and privacy is a thing of the past, but I prefer not to lay my life out in the open for the ptb to use against me if they should decide to round everyone up who isn't in lockstep with societal norms, those who speaks out against the power structure or who may offer a way to escape the matrix. IMO flying under the radar is safer than laying my life out for the CIA or anyone else to easily srcutinize...

I agree with your POV but I would be willing to bet that we are not under the radar on a site like this one. My advise is if you are on FB - KISS! If not that's OK too. :)

Ki's
4th October 2010, 00:52
I have a facebook that I use for work contacts. I know that the CIA monitors it, but I had to have a TWIC for working on ships so I'm already in the FBI's data base. Shipping ports are all a part of the Homeland Security thing.
I thing anyone who is 'in the system'...debit card, internet, cell phone...is subject to government scrutiny. And just being on these kinds of sites pretty much pegs us as trouble makers.
Personally, if it comes down to it...I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory than be rounded up like a sheeple.

Humble Janitor
4th October 2010, 01:11
I don't care what Zuckerberg and his goons do.

If you don't fear something, it is of no threat to you whatsover.

Let them pour over the thousands of doom metal videos that I've posted links to. They'll just find out that I like doom metal. I bet they think I'm one of them since I use the devil horns often when listening to metal. :heh:

sargeist
4th October 2010, 02:54
yep i use facebook. not usualy for anything CT related though.

'they' already know pretty much everything about me anyway.

Rimbaud
5th October 2010, 06:23
No : I don't like or trust it.

I'm the same...the less the "Feds" know about me or where I am...the better!

Rimbaud

Swami
5th October 2010, 07:54
I'm the same...the less the "Feds" know about me or where I am...the better!

Rimbaud


The way to do that is to find a place deep down in a forest living of the grid.....
Once plugged into the grid, they know all.......

Carmody
6th October 2010, 03:32
The way to do that is to find a place deep down in a forest living of the grid.....
Once plugged into the grid, they know all.......

If that was completely true, then they would not be doing half of what they are doing today -and new things they are trying to implement.

bluestflame
6th October 2010, 05:24
they are still trying to isolate what's behind what we think and why we choose not to join them despite all the inticements

Elandiel BernElve
6th October 2010, 10:35
Yes I use facebook, in a limited way. Mostly not for this PA kind of information.
Maybe sometimes a link to a vid or site but that's it.

It's a pitty I sense a lot of fear here among you. You let fear control your life? I can understand whistleblowers keeping a low profile. But others who don't have anything to disclose but just read and listen, what's there to be afraid of? Let "them" see you believe Et's are here, you believe in love and you like to spend time on Avalon and philosophizing about the future.
I don't care they know I spread that info. Maybe it's foolish, but it's honest and true to my way of life. you know what, it's not foolish at all. It's foolish to hide in fear for some men in suits who will never come to you because of facebook.

I keep personal information on myself limited, as well as pictures. But it's fun to be able to contact people over facebook and share important leads of information.

Grizzom
6th October 2010, 10:40
The games they have on Facebook are my main problem.

Their addictive and are designed to be all consuming to the point that these people need a 12 step program to walk away from them.

My wife and oldest daughter are addicted to farmville, and spend all their time building a farm and growing virtual food while the rest of the family sits hungry because mom is to busy playing her friggin game to go to the store to buy real food.

MariaDine
6th October 2010, 11:05
Yes, I use it for getting in touch with other people across the wolrd. Thanks to it I found the Dolores Canon Student Forum, a crystal teacher, The Leonard da Vinci fans and some terapeuthic reiki . yoga, meditation groups.

No pacience for games like Farmville and etc...my time is precious :) and I try to use it wisely...but, then again, ................I may be addicted to Avalon Forum :):rolleyes:;):o

Celine
6th October 2010, 12:27
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p.s - im f00ked (excuse the french, blood vessel) if im going to hide in the shadows. If these guys want my information they can have it!l

First.. No I am not on face book.. I was.. then i didnt go for a month or so.. and they deleted my account. Richard said that doesnt happen often...shrug no idea why ..but I am glad they did..

Second.. Jack you express something that I have noticed very prelevant in the youth of today...

"I know big brother is watching and I dont care"

I find that to be an interesting turn..wonder what the PTB's (or the GPTB) think of that...

Victoria Tintagel
6th October 2010, 12:42
Hello Avalonians! Yes, I am on Facebook, no problems what so ever. It's fun to see friend's and family pictures of those that live abroad. I use Facebook to show what interests me in life and anyone is free to be part of this. Some friends are so stupidly obedient to "mind control" by taking the "what's on your mind today?" invitation to tell me they moved a chair in their living room....:) What a waste of my time! Or telling me how much hours they slept....hmmmm....how interesting!

I am neither interested in pityful sentiments. Online sharing knows no technical borders and needs vigourous attention and healthy disciplin...ahem...said the schoolteacher :)
I am in a hate/love relationship with online communication, as it's always missing "real time" for what that's worth......:) I am having mixed feelings, funny :) as I enjoy this online sharing on Forum Avalon very much :) No feelings of any alienating here, so far.....ha ha ha....hmmmm!

But....the moment I write something is never in the moment when the one addressed receives it. Same with feelings, shared online. In a personal conversation, we can look at each other's face and eyes, sense emotions or line of thoughts, body language....etc.etc. That, to me, is a huge difference as it's much more in the shared NOW.
Well, it's far off topic now, so ......
I used Facebook cautiously at first, not sharing to much whistleblower info, thinking this would be a bomb exploding, sending my friends far away, but since this year began I don't mind so much, I choose postings that are coming from the heart anyway and when that hurts.....well...no REAL harm done, hmmmmmm? Or am I becoming obnoxious here? Massive grin.
I agree with ElandielBernElve that it's best to not let fear control our/your life. For myself I feel I don't have nothing to lose....nothing to fear.....only appreciation of life.
Cheers, Tint.

Celine
6th October 2010, 14:16
This montreal sure got his "moneys worth" from facebook...




CTV.ca News Staff
Date: Wed. Oct. 6 2010 8:56 AM ET
A Montreal man who spammed millions of Facebook users has been handed a disproportionate $1-billion punishment that favours a vengeful corporation, his lawyer said Wednesday.

Two years ago, a California court ruled that Montreal resident Adam Guerbuez had to pay US$873.3 million to Facebook for violating U.S. anti-spam laws.

Converted to Canadian dollars at the November 2008 exchange rate, that works out to damages of more than $1 billion.

Facebook then went to the Quebec Superior Court and asked it to uphold the U.S. verdict, which it did last week.

In its case against Guerbuez, Facebook alleged the Canadian tricked its users into providing him with their usernames and passwords. Then, in March and April of 2008, computer programs sent more than 4 million messages to Facebook accounts promoting products that included marijuana, erectile dysfunction and penis enlargement products.

But lawyer Eric Potvin said the punishment handed down to his client is excessive.

The fine "has no proportion with any of the loss or the profits sustained," Potvin told CTV's Canada AM during an interview from Montreal on Wednesday morning.

When the Quebec Superior Court upheld the judgment on Tuesday, Justice Lucie Fournier said that Guerbuez can no longer have a Facebook account or any contact with the popular social-networking site.

Guerbuez, who claims to have never admitted to sending the messages, considers himself a marketer and may even benefit from the situation he has found himself in, his lawyer said.

"I believe that this whole situation is definitely a plus for him as far as the marketing goes," Potvin said.

On his online Twitter account, Guerbuez describes himself as "The 873 Million Dollar Man."

There is some question as to whether Guerbuez can be compelled to pay any portion of the damages as he has filed for bankruptcy.

In an interview on Tuesday, Guerbuez told The Canadian Press that he doesn't have to pay damages because he is bankrupt.

"I officially declared bankruptcy and it was filed and put into effect over two months ago. This judgment was already deposed as part of the bankruptcy," he said in an interview.

Potvin said his client is entitled "to avail himself of the bankruptcy laws given that there is no way that he could ever repay a judgment of that magnitude."

Elandiel BernElve
6th October 2010, 14:21
I see a lot of prejudice about facebook and online communication in a same way there's a lot of prejudice about videogames.

"Not all gamers are violent, but all violent people are gamers. So games are bad" kind of arguments.

First of all facebook is a tool used by a group as diverse a society is.

The "Youth" are not all the same, they are not all aware of big brother, and those who are do not all give a damn whether TPTB see what they do.
I think there's still a large group ignorant of the dangers of posting very personal information online. But that relates more to sensitive pictures, contactinformation etc. that might lead to bullying, stalking, screening by employers and other kind of bad behaviour. Next to addictive games and ads as stated above that's the biggest security threat.
The intrusion into one's personal life without the person at stake realizing how this information can be compromized.
I have to state that those who cannot control themselves and forget their children because they can't stop playing a stupid game isn't the game designer's fault nor facebook's fault. It's the dumb attitude towards their own responsabilities. I don't even pay attention to games nor ads on facebook.
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Then out of people who know about big brother and TPTB there's two groups: those afraid, hiding, always restricting themselves to speak out freely and show who they are or what they believe in expecting someone might show up and shut them up or something... I don't know.. Why is it? Please enlighten me...

It's obvious when living in a tyrannical country where freedom of speech is restricted you have to watch your mouth, but in any free western country it can't be dangerous to be a member of avalon, post on facebook that you saw a UFO and try to share a youtube vid with an interview of Alex Collier. Even mentioning you're a MK Ultra unit (for fun) is not going to bring you trouble.
So why the scare.. ?

The scare and the fear feeds those malevolant powers, it's what they want. They don't want you to be on facebook, they don't want you on tv they want you out as outlaws where no one will hear you and when people do they can say we're crazy.

This is the time, internet, facebook, 24h connectivity, camelot streaming conferences and all the tools to get our messages spread. We can awaken people and share our experiences, our knowledge, our views. Use the tools and enjoy the possibilities!
I belong to the awakening youth generation aware of the govern mental BS out there but unafraid to let our voice be heard. Not ignorant, but fully conscient.
The more they and other sleepers see people unafraid of expressing their view of life the more THEY will be afraid of losing power and control. The more they see they are losing and people are getting together and no longer take their doctrines.

I am not afraid, Elandiel BernElve is my netname, I believe there's a whole living universe out there, I have seen proof and I will share it, I know of govern mental projects and sick ops but they will not govern my mind nor my actions and this also will be shared. On the net, by talking, by any other way possible. I know I'm more spirit than matter and people ask me more and more about it. I will answer them. I hope along with me, many others will stop shivering and just be who they are. On the net, on facebook, here and in real life.
A dark room can be lit by a small light that reaches every square inch of the room, but darkness can NEVER darken light.

I agree with tintel on some other topics, face to face talk is the best way to communicate, it should be done MORE often and not be replaced by electronic ways of communicating.
Facebook as an electronic way of communication is definately a great ADDENDUM that enriches our ways and tools to get together, keep in touch, communicate and share important or funny things.

It's like with any other thing in life... keep it balanced, don't use it too much or you'll loose yourself, it's the same with watching tv, eating hamburgers, drinking liqueor, smoking and any other enjoyable feature of life. Self control, discipline and balanse are needed with any of these joys, so it works for facebook.

Love & Peace all

rosie
6th October 2010, 14:51
Yes, yes I do. It has allowed me to stay up to date on all my family, including my kids. I have found many dear friends through facebook, and after running into my soul mate on it this July, I have to say it does have it's plus side. :nod:

Fate has a way of showing it's face, when there are more avenues to go down. With technology moving forward, I felt the need to keep, and have not looked back.

I do not play any of the games, I use it solely for instant messaging, and for getting my message across to anyone who will listen to me. As with Jack, I have put my thoughts on it, as it has given me the ability to show all who care to look, my views on life. It is just another tool at our disposal, but with all tools, there will be some who abuse it. This is not the applications problem, but the person who is at the helm of it.

in love & light :wub:

Victoria Tintagel
6th October 2010, 15:45
Thanks El andielBernElve, great post!
It's that simple, when achieved: "It's like with any other thing in life... keep it balanced, don't use it too much or you'll loose yourself, it's the same with watching tv, eating hamburgers, drinking liqueor, smoking and any other enjoyable feature of life. Self control, discipline and balanse are needed with any of these joys, so it works for facebook".
I wish you the best outcome of your creations, Tintagelcave.

HORIZONS
6th October 2010, 16:27
Yes I use facebook, in a limited way. Mostly not for this PA kind of information.
Maybe sometimes a link to a vid or site but that's it.

It's a pitty I sense a lot of fear here among you. You let fear control your life? I can understand whistleblowers keeping a low profile. But others who don't have anything to disclose but just read and listen, what's there to be afraid of? Let "them" see you believe Et's are here, you believe in love and you like to spend time on Avalon and philosophizing about the future.
I don't care they know I spread that info. Maybe it's foolish, but it's honest and true to my way of life. you know what, it's not foolish at all. It's foolish to hide in fear for some men in suits who will never come to you because of facebook.

I keep personal information on myself limited, as well as pictures. But it's fun to be able to contact people over facebook and share important leads of information.

I agree! There are not nearly enough MIB to scroll through all the zillions of FB posts and profiles. There may be software that scans the "words" and language that are used looking for key words and specific information, and then generating massive profiles on the state of the population based on this info - but unless you are using language that is considered anti-government, or something stupid like that, there is nothing to fear. I am sure the same thing is going on here - and probably even more-so. To think that this site or any other web site is secure from the PTB is foolish in my opinion. If the NWO ever comes into power then being or not being on FB is not going to make any difference to your life. It is your integrity and that alone that will stand or fall in the days before us. We have nothing to fear - not even fear itself -- and if you are in fear then "they" (whoever they are) are winning.

Peace to all~

Celine
6th October 2010, 16:29
I agree living in fear is NOT a good thing.

But fear itself is a tool we all use.. it is part of us.. "fight or flight"

jackovesk
7th October 2010, 14:54
Its really awesome for sharing videos, websites, messages, everythin! I never really used it before but lately since hooking up my youtube channel I can see how handy it is for sharing vids and information without having to go through the long process of making up a post or whatever.

Mine is "Reiki masterr" (with two r's)

Watch Your Back Jack...

If you don't the CIA and PTB WILL for you...That's why they invented it for you.

and NO I don't use Facebook, Google, My Space, I am also one of the few who don't even own a Mobile Phone.

Article...

Facebook privacy fears for 100m users as their personal details are published on file-sharing site

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298600/Facebook-privacy-fears-details-millions-users-published-Pirate-Bay.html

kudzy
7th October 2010, 16:47
I did FB for a bit but then deleted my account.
I was disgusted by the triviality of the posts.
I live in a fairly alternative and progressive community.
However we are not immune to wasting time on the computer.
It's too bad because FB has amazing potential on a local networking level.
I would like to see more networking like the following examples;

- I'm willing to do your auto maintenance in exchange for healing work.
- I'm willing to trade my extra organic produce for your herbal medicine.
- I'm looking for parents to share in daycare and homeschooling.
- Does anyone do solar hot water installations? I want to hire someone local.
- Who's interested in forming a local alternative currency.

You get the idea. The possibilities are endless.
The computer, FB and most everything are tools.
It all depends on how you use them.
Many Blessings

xbusymom
8th October 2010, 01:56
I was disgusted by the triviality of the posts.
I am disapointed at the brainless chit-chat stuff too, but I use it to LEAK some of the esoteric stuff to the zombies...


It's too bad because FB has amazing potential on a local networking level.
I would like to see more networking like the following examples;

- I'm willing to do your auto maintenance in exchange for healing work.
- I'm willing to trade my extra organic produce for your herbal medicine.
- I'm looking for parents to share in daycare and homeschooling.
- Does anyone do solar hot water installations? I want to hire someone local.
- Who's interested in forming a local alternative currency.

You get the idea. The possibilities are endless.
The computer, FB and most everything are tools.
It all depends on how you use them.
Many Blessings

I do www.meetup.com for specialized interest 'groups' in your local area ... hey, that gives me an idea to start a 'time-bank' group...

Niobe
8th October 2010, 03:09
I agree with you, Elandiel and Jack. I do limit what I post on FB, but I find it fun and a good source for some interesting videos- I've developed friendships with people that I probably wouldn't have met another way. An example is finding out a friend of the family is "like-minded". I had no idea!

viking
8th October 2010, 09:16
Yes I am on Facebook and I use it awaken folk...pass the message on as they say!! I couldn't give two hoots about who is watching me ect etc ...

There are soooo many enligtened people on facebook now that the PTW would have a very difficult time in suppressing them in any way!!! The wave is too huge and it cannot be stopped!! It is all just a 'time' thing now!

I find it a great way of passing on the 'real' news...after all thats why we are here?? yes??

If you want to add me my facebook name is Eric Janovsky ... :cool:

viking

Celine
8th October 2010, 11:42
92% Of U.S. Toddlers Have Digital Footprint

Many children's online record begins at birth, or even earlier with uploads of sonogram photos, and privacy experts are warning parents to be careful what they post online.
By Antone Gonsalves
InformationWeek
October 8, 2010 07:00 AM


The majority of children in 10 developed countries have an online presence before the age of two, with nearly a quarter starting before they leave their mother's womb, a study showed.
Fully, 92% of U.S. toddlers have a digital footprint, which is the highest among the countries studied by Internet security company AVG. Overall, the percentage was 81%, with the five European countries in the study having the lowest percentage, 73%.


AVG surveyed 2,200 mothers with children under the age of two in the U.K., Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Canada, the U.S., Australia, New Zealand and Japan. The poll was conducted the week of Sept. 27.

The survey found that the children's online footprint started on average at around six months of age, with a third having photos and other information posted online within weeks of being born. In addition, 7% of babies and toddlers had email addresses set up by their parents, and 5% had a social network profile.


The ROI Of Virtualization
Almost a quarter of the moms in the study uploaded their prenatal sonogram scans to the web. Canada had the highest percentage at 37%, followed by the U.S., 34%. Japanese moms were the least likely to post such photos, with only 14% having done so.

The findings were "shocking" in children born today are likely to begin their online presence before they can walk, and have that digital record continue to build throughout their lives, AVG Chief Executive J.R. Smith said. In comparison, people who are 30 years old today have online footprints stretching back only 10 to 15 years at most.

Also troubling was the fact that the mothers surveyed on average were only moderately concerned about the amount of online information available on their children. On a scale of one to five, with five being "very concerned," the moms on average rated their concern at 3.5.

While it's understandable why most proud parents are anxious to upload and share images of their little bundles of joy, moms and dads should think deeply about the digital footprint they're starting for their children, and take into consideration what their babies will think of the information posted when they grow up, Smith said.

In addition, Smith advised parents to use the privacy settings on social networks or photo-sharing sites to keep from public view information that could prove valuable to identity thieves in the future, such as birth dates, middle names, etc.

When asked what motivated them to post images of their babies online, more than 70% of the mothers surveyed said it was to share them with friends and family. However, more than a fifth in the U.S. said they wanted to add content to their social network profiles, while 18% said they were following their peer

jack
8th October 2010, 13:32
Watch Your Back Jack...

If you don't the CIA and PTB WILL for you...That's why they invented it for you.

and NO I don't use Facebook, Google, My Space, I am also one of the few who don't even own a Mobile Phone.

Article...

Facebook privacy fears for 100m users as their personal details are published on file-sharing site

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1298600/Facebook-privacy-fears-details-millions-users-published-Pirate-Bay.html

I frankly dont care to be honest. I can do much more using these tools to my advantage then not using them at all. Besides, really, and truly, what are they going to do. I'm not afraid of them. They can stick their fear. Their controlling every other person on this planet with what, fear. Thats right fear. Their not controlling us with facebook, not controlling us with youtube, their primary means of control is fear.

jack
8th October 2010, 13:36
If you want to add me my facebook name is Eric Janovsky ... :cool:

viking

Theres two eric Janovskys, are you the dude with his hand on his chin, or the dude thats chillin it in the pool?

viking
8th October 2010, 14:29
I is the dude chilling in the pool :cool:

viking

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I frankly dont care to be honest. I can do much more using these tools to my advantage then not using them at all. Besides, really, and truly, what are they going to do. I'm not afraid of them. They can stick their fear. Their controlling every other person on this planet with what, fear. Thats right fear. Their not controlling us with facebook, not controlling us with youtube, their primary means of control is fear.

You got it Jack... NO FEAR NO SURRENDER

viking

Beth
8th October 2010, 15:09
Me and Eric are friends on facebook :cool:

Heartsong
17th November 2010, 03:08
I know that this is an older thread but I wanted to pass on some information that just came to my attention.
Sometime in the middle of the night Facebook disabled my account. Their reason - they thought my name was fake. This is odd. There must be ten thousand N**** C******'s in the US alone. My Facebook account was mostly for swapping pictures of cousins and their kids. Nothing commercial, obscene, or conspiratorial.
To reinstate my account, per their instructions, I am to send them a digital copy of a "Government Issued Photo ID" -- it's ok to black out the Social Security Number they said. Golly, they didn't need/want ID for me to sign up! I thought maybe Facebook had been hacked or perhaps it was a bad joke.
In researching this predicament, I found many websites with irritated people saying they've been dumped for no good reason. One blogger said that they deliberately bump a percentage of people every night (don't know if he knew that for a fact though or if it was just conjecture.)

If all those who are bumped have to submit government issued ID to get back on, then Facebook is collecting a whole lot of data to use as it pleases.

Has this happened to anyone else?
Heartsong

xbusymom
17th November 2010, 03:49
If all those who are bumped have to submit government issued ID to get back on, then Facebook is collecting a whole lot of data to use as it pleases.



I really don't care.. I have been 'in the system' for at least 25 years for my kids sake, so they already have me in their shackles... but I am pressing onward anyway...

anyone want to join me in open nose-thumbing... and if they get any ideas to throw me around... ever played 'crack the whip'? (the one on the end gets flung the farthest) :pound: so lets aim high

facebook:Xbusymom Dean

felixq78
17th November 2010, 04:12
Yes, but I avoid the trivial, "what I did today", crap like most of my kids and friends do. I mean,"really" who gives a damn about whether you had a good morning with the ladies at the tennis club or not?
I put up a lot of links to Disclosure/UFO/Ancient knowledge/Anti NWO stuff etc etc. I'm sure most of my personal friends and family think I'm nuts but I don't care. I don't reply to debunker posts etc they waste our time and energy, I just put it out and hope that someone picks up on it eventually.
Also I don't put down ANY personal information e.g. DOB, address, ph numbers etc etc, nothing that can identify me, the C I A, A.S.I.O. etc make good use of Facebook, MySpace etc in gathering info on dissidents.
I've put up some fairly sensitive stuff e.g. the Israeli vs Palestine situation but I'm still there no one has interfered yet.:cool:

Ahkenaten
17th November 2010, 17:08
That little wise guy Zuckerberg started Facebook with seed money from a CIA-connected organization. Facebook is a CIA asset a' la IBM corporation's punch-card system so effectively used by the Nazis to correlate social networks in Germany, taking it to the next level with computer technology. I say why participate in the government/corporation's social-network analysis and tracking by signing onto something as onorous as Facebook, and at the same time putting more money in that little wise-ass's pockets? Let the 3-letter agencies at least work a little bit for their data - don't just passively turn it all over to them via Facebook, MySpace, etc. These so-called social networking sites are not at all what they appear to be on the surface.

norman
17th November 2010, 17:56
The government can and do bring up people's Facebook pages when an 'insident' occures. I've heard Facebook pages mentioned in the radio news several times, usually after someone has disapeared or been killed.

They have established a precedent for shoving Facebook pages out into the news. I well understand that nothing about us is really private and the ptb can track my every move and comment. There is an important difference between what the ptb can know about us and what they can display about us. They have their own reasons why they are very reluctant to go public with the workings of their own intel gathering methods and often prefere to pay out very large out-of-court settlements to having their methods scrutinized in court and in public.

As the bogus war on bad guys intensifies I can imagine them doing much more spin and twistery with people's publicly available data but I think they will remain in the shadows with their big hord of secret data on people. Yes, they will know your business but no they won't f*@k with it in public unless you have already given them a way to claim they got it the same way everybody else could have.

On that basis, I still think there is a good enough reason to avoid handing out info about yourself publicly, even when we know very well that everything about us is 'known' to the ptp.

Ahkenaten
17th November 2010, 18:58
But if everyone "goes crazy", i.e. is so contradictory in their views and statements tracked and recorded on many interconnected media that there is absolutely no way to determine their point of view let alone potential course of action through logical analytics used by the binary systems, there is no way other than the conclusion "crazy" that any analysis can be done.

The only hope is to go officially MAD ("I'm mad and not going to take it anymore" - Network.)

xbusymom
18th November 2010, 04:41
That little wise guy Zuckerberg started Facebook with seed money from a CIA-connected organization. Facebook is a CIA asset a' la IBM corporation's punch-card system so effectively used by the Nazis to correlate social networks in Germany, taking it to the next level with computer technology. I say why participate in the government/corporation's social-network analysis and tracking by signing onto something as onorous as Facebook, and at the same time putting more money in that little wise-ass's pockets? Let the 3-letter agencies at least work a little bit for their data - don't just passively turn it all over to them via Facebook, MySpace, etc. These so-called social networking sites are not at all what they appear to be on the surface.

...'these ... are not what they appear to be...'
neither are we... do you know the word
IN - FIL - TRA - TION... you cant fix the problem if you don't know what the problem is...

-btw people are more aware of what is going on then we are LED to believe and it is going to get harder to switch-up people's INFO profiles simply because there is more people 'following' others on twitter, linkedin, facebook, etc.

if suzies' FRIENDS (after 5 yrs of FRIENDship) find out that she was 'suddenly' a 'closet-case terrorist', they will know the truth and there will be an uproar of sorts

Ahkenaten
18th November 2010, 05:34
I don't understand xbusymom what you mean by 'it is going to be harder to switch-up people's INFO profiles' etc. Are you saying that there is so much traffic that it ends up being too much information to make meaningful sense of it? If that is what you are saying I somewhat agree but my main point is that Facebook can still be very effectively used for dossier building. Are you saying that if someone tries to falsely frame Suzie as a terrorist that Suzie's Facebook friends of five yrs who "know her very well" will object to the accusation? Why would that matter if law enforcement arrested Suzie? They do not need probable cause nor must they honor habeaus corpus in this environment. I don't get what you are saying.

frank samuel
18th November 2010, 05:41
Where I used to work my boss would often visit facebook just to see what the employess and supervisors where up to. Needless to say many got in trouble for voicing their opinions about the treatment of employees specially at the supervisor level. To answer your question no I do not use face book .

Heartsong
18th November 2010, 16:40
Facebook just sent me a letter of apology. It was their error. They did the same thing to thousands of women Facebook users. I'm glad I didn't send them my ID!

shiva777
18th November 2010, 16:50
yeah,I use facebook but I don't go around collecting "friends",I share what I consider important issues and if facebook "friends" just want to make small talk I delete them..

dddanieljjjamesss
18th November 2010, 17:26
I'm not afraid to use facebook. If anyone is watching me, they know I can't be stopped. I'm right out in the open with nothing to hide.

rosie
18th November 2010, 17:53
I cannot understand why people are concerned that "someone" may be interested in their face book musings, or any other musings on the web, such as Avalon.

People, it has been proven time and again, that the only "people" the government, or the "powers that want to be" are really, really interested in, are the ones that are playing with "their" money. They couldn't give two hoots about on who can levitate, read minds, or any of the conspiracy sites. This is all just our own distractions. Which I am sure they must find very amusing to think that we actually might be worth something to them.

In this day and age, a child can be murdered and the killer gets off in 10 years, but, if this same person went and messed around with "their" money, they would then get life. This shows in itself what is more important to them. We are not "worth" their time, and it is good practice to realize this.

And if you have something very important to tell the world, would you not stand up and yell it. This is called bravery, to put yourself on the front line, to lay down your life so that others may benefit from your knowledge. (thanks Bill for not being afraid!) By being fearful of sharing knowledge on the web, you will be falling into "their" trap. We must use it for our intentions, without fear of any kind.

in love & light :wub:

Ahkenaten
18th November 2010, 18:00
It is simply untrue that TPTB are not interested in the musings/mood of the people........................if YOU occupied the capstone position on a pyramid would YOU not be very very sensitive to the tremors, vibrations, or god forbid, the cracks and structural instability of the massive structure that supports you? This is why TPTB are so obsessed with information of any and all kinds down to the tiniest minutae..................they wish to attend to anything that begins to develop in the massive edifice below them from a "preventative" perspective, lest the entire structure fall, taking their all-seeing eye with it. Recognizing this individuals would be wise to understand the power of the individual and the collective. In the jungle the one thing that the elephant fears most of all are the ants. Ants, working together, can bring down the giant beast and devour it in its sleep.

dddanieljjjamesss
18th November 2010, 18:17
So would we let that dissuade us from spreading information in the most accessible way possible?

irishspirit
18th November 2010, 18:41
Thankfully, I do not! It is nothing more than an open source of peoples lives. People share way to much info on themselves on these sites, and then wonder why their ID is stolen.

rosie
18th November 2010, 19:06
It is simply untrue that TPTB are not interested in the musings/mood of the people........................if YOU occupied the capstone position on a pyramid would YOU not be very very sensitive to the tremors, vibrations, or god forbid, the cracks and structural instability of the massive structure that supports you? This is why TPTB are so obsessed with information of any and all kinds down to the tiniest minutae..................they wish to attend to anything that begins to develop in the massive edifice below them from a "preventative" perspective, lest the entire structure fall, taking their all-seeing eye with it. Recognizing this individuals would be wise to understand the power of the individual and the collective. In the jungle the one thing that the elephant fears most of all are the ants. Ants, working together, can bring down the giant beast and devour it in its sleep.

Yes, ants can take down much larger beings then themselves. Not for control, but out of necessity, in one mind set. The only way for this world to get into "one" mindset against TPTB's, is if something brought us all to a standstill, at the same moment, with the same reflections on that moment. I shudder to think on what could actually bring this world to a standstill, but that is for another day.

Individually, we are strong, together we would be a force, but realistically speaking, I do not see that happening anytime soon. Right now we can't see the forest for the trees, we are too focused on the TPTB workings, then our own doings. There is much work to be done in our own hometowns, to help stem the suffering that they have brought upon every hard working individual and their families. I would much rather bring joy to the ones I love,or the ones that need, then bring down" those who think they have all the power. I care not about their energy, or power, for it only affects the ones who believe in them.

This is my humble opinion.
in love & light :wub:

Kikine
18th November 2010, 19:54
I think is not bad neither good. It can really be something against privacy and a way to find who you are etc. But it is a good way to connect people together and to pass information.
So in my opinion, that you use it or not, its a choice depending on your perspective of things. I do not care if they know who i am so i do not mind using facebook and read the information there. But if someone do not want people to know about themselve, well just dont go on it. Whos to say if its bad or not? its all about perspective. I dont judge someone if that person doesnt want to use it. Its their choice. I dont say its bad or good. Facebook a good thing or a bad thing? nobody can answer, because the answer is from what THEY believe is good or bad.

Connecting with Sauce
20th November 2010, 01:20
Ditto to all those with nothing to hide... I think we've all been preparing for this moment, why hide...

My profile John Shore
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/profile.php?id=575931821

There is a wicked "Spirit Orb" photo on my wedding day of what I believe is my Dad next to me ... 7-8 other orbs in the picture in hi res.

I try to limit my posts to awareness sharing and humor / positive feelings...

Beth
20th November 2010, 05:33
Very handsome pic, John!

xbusymom
20th November 2010, 07:01
I don't understand xbusymom what you mean by 'it is going to be harder to switch-up people's INFO profiles' etc. Are you saying that there is so much traffic that it ends up being too much information to make meaningful sense of it? If that is what you are saying I somewhat agree but my main point is that Facebook can still be very effectively used for dossier building. Are you saying that if someone tries to falsely frame Suzie as a terrorist that Suzie's Facebook friends of five yrs who "know her very well" will object to the accusation? Why would that matter if law enforcement arrested Suzie? They do not need probable cause nor must they honor habeaus corpus in this environment. I don't get what you are saying.

yes, I am saying that at least people are awakening enough that the friends will know what the real truth is (not the trumped up portfolio) and make sure the true version gets spread, especially if suzie cant physically do anything about it. We all need to start getting back in touch with real people and standing up for each other.

kesom
22nd November 2010, 00:57
check this facebook group,a few of bill and kerry's videos on there but would like some input from members here to spread the word
all welcome :)

heres the link http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=211750880429