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mojo
29th January 2014, 01:50
wow this MSM news story just caught my attention! The Police are saying there is some credibility as well as witnesses in the hospital say the child was walking up the wall backwards and flipping upside down. A police officer and other adults visiting the home were convinced as well. sure there will be more about this story...it was recently broadcast moments before the State of the Union...crazy

Sidney
29th January 2014, 01:57
Is this the story?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547224/EXCLUSIVE-A-portal-hell-Police-chief-priest-examined-possessed-children-haunted-Indiana-home-official-reports-saying-no-hoax.html

mojo
29th January 2014, 01:59
I will check Sidney but I did find a youtube upload...;)
edit..it was, highly recommend folks vist Sydney's link above for the story.
also posted there was an EVP they caught in the home..interesting story and now making it in mainstream...

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Harley
29th January 2014, 02:07
'Demonic Possession' Of Mother & Her 3 Children Saw 'Boy Walk Backwards Up The Wall In Home Haunted By 200 Spirits'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/28/demonic-possession-haunted-house-200-spirits_n_4679019.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Incudes 6 minute video and several photos

Carmody
29th January 2014, 04:37
the other side of the block/street of the house in question... (Google earth street view) is the 'Gary community school Corporation'.

I wonder how many children have gone missing over the years in the area, and wonder some more, while looking at that facility. Doing a bit of of tomographic analysis for underground components, in that immediate area, might be prudent.

We know how those Illuminati like to use school boards and we know how they love children.

It would be especially easy to find them in an area of sharp decline. Under such sharp decline and changes, it would be difficult to pinpoint any issues....:


Gary's fortunes have risen and fallen with those of the steel industry. The growth of the steel industry brought prosperity to the community. Broadway Avenue was known as a commercial center for the region. Department stores and architecturally significant movie houses were built in the downtown area and the Glen Park neighborhood.

In the 1960s, like many other American urban centers reliant on one particular industry, Gary entered a spiral of decline. Gary's decline was brought on by the growing overseas competitiveness in the steel industry, which had caused U.S. Steel to lay off many workers from the Gary area. As the city declined, crime increased.

Rapid racial change occurred in Gary during the late 20th century. These population changes resulted in political change which reflected the racial demographics of Gary. Gary had one of the nation's first African-American mayors, Richard G. Hatcher, and hosted the ground-breaking 1972 National Black Political Convention.


I'm not saying that this is the issue, but the circumstantial evidence and the history of such actions in similar conditions, certainly puts the potential...'on the table'. In the years from 2000 to 2010 alone, the population of Gary Indiana decreased from 100,000 to 80,000. 20% in 10 years. It's easy to hide things in such conditions.

Interesting soil conditions, as well, all sand, when you get one foot below the surface. One foot of soil, then it is the ancient lakebed, at the end of lake Michigan. Also Chicago, it is the tail end of Chicago, a notorious area for Illuminati/dark connections. A ley line runs right through the center of Chicago. Also, the demographics. 85% African American, and probably more likely to be at risk of 'loss' issues, involving their children.

The sand makes for a digging and facility creation, underground, so easy that it is almost laughable. And, that school district headquarters, the back of this huge building, right across the street from the house at 3860 Carolina St, Gary Indiana USA. (use Google earth street view, see for yourself)

Also, highly charged soil, or sand in this case... it can carry tremendous electrical charge. Sand so good, that it was originally used to make high grade glass.

I wonder if some 'monster' worked at that facility. Heck, it even looks like it has a big smokestack. An incinerator, most likely.

So yeah, 200 souls (demons they say)... I can believe it.

Carmody
29th January 2014, 05:10
One half of a block away, to the east, is a closed dead facility of some sort, surrounded by scrub brush and fences... closed, a now dilapidated facility. Right by the school facility, across the street from it. On it's grounds, is a dual triangle (one inverted inside the other) on the grounds of this place. It appears to be oriented to the compass. I wonder what that is, this closed area. No idea, just curious, it is. A few degrees off of 'true north'. The dual triangle hexagonal....This is heading into Draco territory......

Tesla_WTC_Solution
29th January 2014, 05:30
This is one of the most mind blowing things I've read in a very long time.
I keep asking, saying, "can this be real??"

Yet we have experienced smaller scale versions of some of this stuff -- but gosh,
nothing quite that bad.

Maybe I should not have been so fast to say demons aren't real. @@

p.s. is there ever an explanation with an electrical basis for these things?
like the tesla equipment that made paperweights levitate? etc.?? :(

bogeyman
29th January 2014, 05:41
In our modern society, the talk and belief in such things are not usually apart of our world, but through my own experiences, our reality is just a veil. These kinds of events occur more often than reported, due to there high strangeness, silence in the media is usually the norm.



"The most hair-raising incidents include a description of Ammons’s nine-year-old son walking “backward up a wall to the ceiling”, which was witnessed and recorded by members of the Indiana Department of Child Services, who were investigating allegations of abuse or neglect.

The document, which has been published online, says: “[Redacted child’s name] had the weird grin on his face and began to walk backwards while his grandmother was holding his hand and he walked up the wall backwards while holding his grandmother’s hand and never let go. He flipped over and landed on his feet in front of the grandmother and sat down in the chair.”
Actually report from Child Services:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1004899/intake-officers-report.pdf

Harley
29th January 2014, 06:20
is there ever an explanation with an electrical basis for these things?

Young minds are much more open to "Outside Influences" than they are when they're older.

Harley
29th January 2014, 06:54
Coincidentally, this one was also reported/broadcast by National MSM News only one week ago.

Fatal exorcism claims two children's' lives - full Latest News

full latest news
Jan 22, 2014

Mother claims demonic possession after stabbing her for kids


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyTwCIr91rM

Might make one wonder what it is they're NOT telling us.
Or
Don't want us to know.

Atlas
29th January 2014, 08:09
Excerpt from hammond police report:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/docs/excerpt-from-hammond-police-report.jpg
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Excerpt from lake county police report:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/docs/excerpt-from-lake-county-police-report.jpg

Town's veteran police captain Charles Austin, 62 :
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/28/article-0-1B04703500000578-766_634x406.jpg


'All of a sudden this growling voice came from my AM/FM radio. It said, “YOU OUTTA HERE” Then a lot of garbled other stuff and static'

After that, according to Capt. Austin, every other officer present that day had problems with their radios, phones and house alarms. Most alarming for Capt. Austin was an incident he had two weeks later when he was, he said bluntly, ‘attacked.’ Returning home in his Infiniti SUV he said,


‘the electric door to my garage would not open. It had been fine before. I pressed the keypad it must have been 10 times then gave up.
‘I exited the vehicle and went to flip the main power in the garage but that didn’t work, then the house and finally that worked.
‘But when I went back to my car the driver's seat was just moving backwards and forwards by itself. Backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards.
‘When I took the car to the shop to get it looked into they said if I hadn’t brought it in it could have caused an accident and I could have been killed because for some reason the seat was about to collapse.’

Campbell, Ammons, Austin and the two other police officers from the initial visit went back to the Carolina Street home on the afternoon of May 10, 2012. The police officers visited after work hours. They were joined by Maginot, two Lake County officers with a police dog and DCS family case manager Samantha Ilic. Samantha reached to touch a cabinet that appeared to be dripping clear oil. According to the Capt:


‘She touched it with her pinky and her finger just went flush free of blood, it was white like it was dead. She was holding up her hand saying, her finger was numb and the side of her hand.’
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/28/article-2547224-1B07223800000578-306_634x475.jpg

Ilic said she was later standing in the living room with the rest of the group when her left pinky finger started to tingle and whiten. She complained it felt broken. Less than 10 minutes later, Ilic said she felt as if she was having a panic attack. She couldn't breathe, so she walked outside to wait for the group.


"We felt like someone was in the room with you, someone breathing down your neck."

Ilic said she had a string of medical problems after visiting the home. A week after she visited the house for the last time, Ilic said she got third-degree burns from a motorcycle. Within 30 days, she also broke three ribs Jet Skiing, broke a hand when she hit a table, then broke an ankle running in flip-flops.


"I had friends who wouldn't talk to me because they believed that something had attached itself to me,"

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1005721/report-to-bishop.pdf
Download PDF (https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1005721/report-to-bishop.pdf)

jagman
29th January 2014, 17:33
Bill O'Reilly is going to interview the police capt tonight.

dsldog
29th January 2014, 17:46
My take is anything natural or supernatural will obey physical law even when it may appear otherwise. Having said that, the universe is loaded up with things we dont understand. Let's keep an open mind and heart, and a clear head. Tesla_WTC_Solution asked if there was a electrical explanation? Probably not. Someone else started discussing exorcism. Trouble for me there is Hollywood has kind of distorted that beyond all recognition. Anytime anybody starts speaking of demons I start thinking medieval mentality when Kings couldnt read and so called educated folks couldnt multiply numbers larger than 1000. Maybe that's my limitation?

Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th January 2014, 01:22
Well, some fairly respected people have studied the phenomenon of 'poltergeist'.
Most of you have seen the Steven Spielberg movie, right? The premise is that (at the end you find out) some people decided to dig up a cemetery and move the bodies illegally.
Among the dead were young men who had died during World War I. They were not resting well to begin with. So. When their remains are desecrated, the spirits rage out, and in some cases (yes even the scary ones) what some people call "ghosts" can and do account for 'poltergeist' activity (instead of blaming demons).

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In the Bible, demons aren't described as big scary web-winged weapon-wielding monsters. Nor are they black or white or purple or green.
They are simply defined as an unhoused, unsophisticated soul(s) (with the exception of a few named entities such as the Prince of the East who contested for many days against the angel Michael and the messenger who visited Daniel).

The idol-gods Moloch, Dagon, and Baal weren't even given the distinction in the Bible of being capable of answering a human, much less haunting one. They are primitive creations of humans and therefore are not self-aware. However, there are many ghosts in the Bible, and they usually caused a stir (whether or not they caused harm). A good example is King Saul (first Jewish King!) consulting the Witch of Endor after officially banning spiritism in Israel. She calls up the prophet Samuel and the ghost gives his protege Saul a good stern talking-to. Saul ends up unconscious after contact with the ghost.

The kids in these reports passed out after contact with the entity.

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Poltergeists

It is common, affects mostly children and adolescents (a few exceptions actually, and these are usually women).

There is a very good case of "focus" possession (i.e. jealousy of a spirit) in the Bible... and I consider the Bible to be among the highest learning even today.
This one is good because it was in the Old Testament (and most of those Old Testament stories have more details than those in the New Testament, if you have noticed -- the literary tradition had started breaking down even before the Christian church was founded via Greek and Roman proliferation. Also this is because the Old Testament was acquired via the oral tradition over thousands of years, whereas the New Testament was collected over a few hundred years. The Old Testament gives a better range of samples.)

Anyhow, the story was, a young and beautiful virgin was having trouble with getting married.
Her father was beside himself. What happened was, a demon felt possessive of the daughter because she was a good catch.
The spirit wasn't hurting her or otherwise causing trouble for her bodily or mentally. It was instead murdering her newlywed husband -- just like Bluebeard the Pirate! -- each and every time a man tried to escort her into her bedroom. She told her dad about it, and of course they both saw the bodies and agreed that a supernatural entity accounted for the damage. It happened at least 5 times in the Biblical account, or maybe 7? Anyhow, a Jewish man who had some protection from such things ended up inquiring after the beautiful woman, and when he married her, the spirit left him alone and ultimately left the woman alone, because it respected her new husband for some inner quality he possessed (or was it just God's protection?).

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I wonder if the authorities call a Rabbi on the really tough cases?
Is that done strictly in private?

:)

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p.s. I've seen some really weird electrical stuff in my short time on earth.
From pink clouds zipping across the sky underneath a black thunderhead to the lights flashing when we speak of the dead.
Also the lights went BOOM when I looked too long at a picture of Koot huumi on the internet, lol.

So there really could be an electrical (energetic) answer.

Have you ever though about emotions, and sensing emotions possibly being tied to more than chemicals?
What about charged particles, other things that we can sense, thanks to our quantum minds?

When someone passes on, many ghost experts say that what they leave behind isn't always a ghost that thinks,
but rather an impression of what they experienced before death.

Carmody
30th January 2014, 03:35
Time sense is not the same in energetic astral form. What may seem like a few days in astral form could be months or even years. In that form we are almost wholly in a now moment, we don't have past and a future projection, not in the same way.

The death moments can be overpowering and can so skew the ethereal or energetic self, that the given person cannot really get away, or is, as stated, not really aware yet that time is passing. Time that is passing for the beings that are being impressed upon in 3D linear time. People in such straits end up resonating in the one mode and can't get out. Not even aware of it. Breaking them out of it can be tricky. Many times they can be triggered out of it by understanding exactly how they arrived in their given state and then skipping them past the cyclic moment.

In my case this is not hypothetical, or written things I read somewhere, that I'm spewing here. My experience is direct.

mojo
30th January 2014, 04:11
TY jagman although felt that the follow-up news segment did not do justice only interviewing the Priest. There were other witnesses to interview and it seemed like Bill O was casting doubt on the Priests ability to determine if it was warranted...very strange to hype the report and do a shappy job on the reporting.

edit: this might make be a good candidate location do a follow-up from a paranormal research group in the area.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th January 2014, 04:12
Time sense is not the same in energetic astral form. What may seem like a few days in astral form could be months or even years. In that form we are almost wholly in a now moment, we don't have past and a future projection, not in the same way.

The death moments can be overpowering and can so skew the ethereal or energetic self, that the given person cannot really get away, or is, as stated, not really aware yet that time is passing. Time that is passing for the beings that are being impressed upon in 3D linear time. People in such straits end up resonating in the one mode and can't get out. Not even aware of it. Breaking them out of it can be tricky. Many times they can be triggered out of it by understanding exactly how they arrived in their given state and then skipping them past the cyclic moment.

In my case this is not hypothetical, or written things I read somewhere, that I'm spewing here. My experience is direct.

This is actually very interesting and something I needed to read!

Carmody
30th January 2014, 04:33
Time sense is not the same in energetic astral form. What may seem like a few days in astral form could be months or even years. In that form we are almost wholly in a now moment, we don't have past and a future projection, not in the same way.

The death moments can be overpowering and can so skew the ethereal or energetic self, that the given person cannot really get away, or is, as stated, not really aware yet that time is passing. Time that is passing for the beings that are being impressed upon in 3D linear time. People in such straits end up resonating in the one mode and can't get out. Not even aware of it. Breaking them out of it can be tricky. Many times they can be triggered out of it by understanding exactly how they arrived in their given state and then skipping them past the cyclic moment.

In my case this is not hypothetical, or written things I read somewhere, that I'm spewing here. My experience is direct.

This is actually very interesting and something I needed to read!

My mentioning of electrical charge has to do with shot noise or dimensionless energy. or multidimensional energy. The higher the electrical charge, the higher the ability to transport across dimensions. Thus space vs 3d solid objects in a frozen lattice structure. how an ethereal form will get stuck in solid objects. Astral projectors have this problem all the time. What I'm saying is the the 'capacity' of the sandy soil or almost pure sand, is like a charged capacitor, with a large associated field strength.

Remember how cameras go bad around such situations, encounters AND UFO's?

Take a look at this, look at the image showing high shot noise to low shot noise. Shot noise.... ie, 'quantum noise floor.' Dimensional, or dark-matter/vacuum/aether stability fluctuations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise

Malfunctioning electric and electronic devices and astral/ethereal/dimensional etc, all go hand in hand with one another.

Electric universe, or geometric polarization-differential functions in quantum state differentials (difference from one quanta to another)(which is time)(and mass)(and dimensions)

Basically put, a region of high charge and high shot noise is a region of dimensional blending. Two different vibrational modes in an interference pattern, where the resultant in Newtonian analysis, would be something like shot noise, as an after effect.

Batteries fail to function as they are essentially quantum devices.

Human bodies start to have problems, as they are basically, quantum chemical engines.

Transistors and other electronics fail as transistors are basically..quantum devices, and so on.

The 'normal' pattern of physics is broken, until the instability/blending of the region decreases. The 'q' or quality factor of atomic or quantum stability for that region has to return to a more pure state and then the problem end...the dimensional crossing or blending --ends.

Since it is 'ethereal' dimensions that are being blended with, no solids, thus.... energy in those dimensions, is the true bearer of intelligence and thus will and thought dominate, not 3d objects dominating. Here, in this particular level of atomic vibration (as a view point) 3d solids and linear time dominate, and we don't tend to understand the others.

Thus something like meditation, prayer, exorcisms, etc, are required... to utilize will, concentration, and so on, in order to 'beat' an aetheric blend of that sort or nature.

CarnageCandy
30th January 2014, 08:51
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25943051
reached the UK too - But these things just dissapear, so as Mojo said, follow up by paranormal investigators would be awesome.

Last line of the BBC Newsbeat - There are now new tenants in the property and the landlord has not received any further reports of demonic possession.

:/

Carmody
30th January 2014, 16:19
Then we may be talking about something from the vicinity that was facilitated by the persons who occupied the house. It is not just about native capacities in a person. it is food, health, mental condition and preparation, thought modes, and then the enablers of environmental conditions. Ley lines, weather, astrology of the moment, soil/water conditions, (ground charge potentials/differentials, etc)

Some folks have native capacity to channel 'spirits', for example, and those who wish to taste being in the flesh, will pile up into or onto that physical 3d person.

I knew someone who was natively capable of this, to a high degree, and they decided to visit an Asian temple of worship, while traveling internationally. They ended up visiting multiple temples, where the public would go to honour their dead. In MAJOR Asian metropolitan areas. This means tons of spirits in those vicinities....attempting to speak through this person.

This person came back and had a nervous system collapse, their Myelin sheathing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myelin) on their entire nerve structure let go.

When someone channels such energies, or transfers such energies , etc..they end up using up the sheathing. The real aspect of the spiritual ectoplasm situation, is tied to this. Channellers must limit their exposure as they have to let this rebuild in the body, and this requires health and proper eating, rest, etc. Psychics must eat right and rest right for the same reasons.

A child is in the state of building the body, in a state of extremely high growth and renewal rates and can sustain high levels of contact/transmission/etc.

A bit of light reading on associated issues and connections:

Adm. George Hoover and the Roswell secret: the real abilities that humans have (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20134-Adm.-George-Hoover-and-the-Roswell-secret-the-real-abilities-that-humans-have)


Myelin is a dielectric (electrically insulating) material that forms a layer, the myelin sheath, usually around only the axon of a neuron. It is essential for the proper functioning of the nervous system. It is an outgrowth of a type of glial cell. The production of the myelin sheath is called myelination. In humans, the production of myelin begins in the 14th week of fetal development, although little myelin exists in the brain at the time of birth. During infancy, myelination occurs quickly and continues through the adolescent stages of life.


Once again, dielectric, like the sandy soil. high levels of polarization, or electrical potential. Thus high capacity for energetic boundary gating. The brain and nervous system really, most seriously IS.... a dimensional boundary/transgression receiving/transmitting system. it does not just operate as simply as we think it does, regarding public medical science in the mundane world.

Remember, this is all happening in a semi-fluid/semisolid (organized matter) state (the human body!!), so it is quantum, which is longitudinal and transverse wave function, which is inherently capable of FTL and dark matter effects and connections. The body itself has within it dimensional shifting and transgressing function, as a chemical engine that is both organized shaped lattice networks of molecular structure, and also pure quantum charged(electrical potential) fluids at the same time, all working within one another.

IF..we work hard to keep health and we work hard to keep electrical charge and potential levels HIGH in the body, then we gift ourselves with the capacity to renew our bodies and navigate dimensions and shift energies about.

That is what the good eating, the good thinking, and the meditation/self awareness is all about.

Roisin
7th February 2014, 11:43
This demon/Reptilian possession case has turned out to be the most notable one in modern history due to the number of credible witnesses who have witnessed some extraordinary phenomena and events and because everything is well documented including some photographic and audio evidential material too.

As some of us already know and have been trying to inform others about is that Reptilians are opening more and more portals to make themselves known to us.

But as we can see, it IS possible to stop them in their tracks via intervention from God. This story shows that very clearly.

Carmody
7th February 2014, 15:27
At the least, it is intervention of and in self. The 'belief' of god being strong enough so that the person can properly project in a state of knowing and intent.

The idea of god is a vehicle of focus, drive and fullness of self. Ie, proper levels of intent and impetus at the deepest levels.

As the esoteric and the eastern religions say ~YOU~ are god.

Anything else..... is self imposed helplessness and hopelessness and the harvesting of YOUR energies for 'other'.

Fundamentally, religions are asking that you believe in systems of hierarchy and that you bend to it. This could be interpreted as an insistence upon some form of a pyramid. Since this sort of information is not generally public, then it's difficult to say, isn't it?

That both 'lucifer' and 'god' stated that they each cannot exist without your belief and support.

I understand the idea of self responsibility and correctness in act and thought, but not any form of knee bending.

Until people believe in themselves, the carrot and the stick will continue.

Roisin
8th February 2014, 01:32
Interesting viewpoint but I'm Catholic and of course my perspective on this is much different than what yours is. :)

Atlas
8th February 2014, 16:53
Rev. Michael Magino, The O'Reilly Factor:
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Reporter who Broke Indiana Possession Story, Fox News:
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