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Kimberley
14th March 2014, 21:12
This may have been posed in a thread today somewhere, however I feel it needs its own thread.

I have not been familiar with Dave Hodges until now. What he wrote and posted today is of the utmost importance to us all, IMHO.

For those of us that have gone deep into the rabbit hole, this will not be new information, however this writing moved me to a place of final confirmation of all I have learned/researched for many, many years.

I truly believe/feel/sense that WWIII WILL NOT HAPPEN, I just can not wrap myself around the possibility that I would be here on earth at this time to be part of a WWIII, however it is time for humanity to claim and insist that we get our freedom back in what ever way we are led via love and compassion.

I am being my part and being what I signed up to be, and so are you. I thank you all for doing your part! (not that my thanks are needed) however thank you anyway :-)

As I said, in a different way already, this writing feels very powerful to me and I wanted you all to be sure to read it.

Much love, peace, joy, health, and fun to us all, always in all ways!!!!! :grouphug:

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DAVE HODGES: The Malaysian Airliner Is NOT Missing & Much More (http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/14/the-malaysian-airliner-is-not-missing-much-more/)
Dave Hodges | March 14, 2014 | The Common Sense Show (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/)

The Malaysian airplane is not missing. It is exactly where somebody has designed it to be. Also, with regard to the 80,000 Russian troops poised to invade Ukraine and with NATO moving forces into Norway, there is a war that could break out any day.

The coming world war is totally unnecessary. It will be fought with weapons and technology that is outdated by over a hundred years. The United States government has the ability to negate ANY Russian or Chinese weapon.

These two events and many world events are part of a grand theater which is being played out in order to create maximum chaos from which the New World Order will be rolled out. And this is all preventable because we have unimaginable technologies which could solve the problems that wars cannot.

How do I know what technologies are available to our government? I don’t, but my father did and this is a brief revelation of his work and why it matters to all of us.


Family Secrets

I am going to write about and partially reveal something that I have had knowledge of for over 30 years. If I would have revealed what I knew my father was working on while he was in the navy and immediately after his retirement, he would have gone to prison for life and my mother would have lost my father’s navy pension following his death. Now that both of my parents are deceased, it is time that the truth came out because it has a direct bearing on both the missing Malaysian airliner and the potential world war that Russia and NATO are preparing to fight. This would be a much easier article to write if it were about another family instead of my own because I detest bringing attention to my family.


A Chance Encounter

My wife and I were having lunch at a restaurant yesterday and she was asking me what I thought was behind the missing Malaysian airliner. I told her that I could not be certain, but that our NSA and CIA knows exactly what happened to that plane and where it happened. Strangely, there was a man sitting in the booth behind us who leaned over and said “I could not help overhearing what you were talking about. I used to work for DARPA before retiring and madam your husband is correct. There is nothing that we could not monitor and that includes ships, planes, automobiles and people. We have technology that the public will not know about for 100 years.” Although he did not elaborate, I knew exactly what he was talking about.

This chance encounter reminded me how much I hate the deception that comes out of our government on a daily basis. We have the technology to do incredible good. We can reverse droughts, defend against all of our enemies weapons and we can even reverse the aging process. Yes, the super elite on this planet have decided to withhold most technological advances from the people so that we can continue to play out the old worn out game of one side going to war with the other, etc. etc. It is all about control, manipulation and mass murder and I am sick of it. I understand why whistleblowers do what they do because they get so disgusted that they cannot take it anymore. I understand it because I am about to engage in it for the same reasons.


Child’s Play

I mourn for the dead 239 missing passengers of the missing plane. And yes, they are undoubtedly dead. I have long known that our intelligence agencies, and probably the FSB and Mossad as well, have the ability to track every ship, airplane, every automobile and person in the world. Be warned that every conversation that you have, not just electronic, is monitored by a computer. There are no secrets. The ability to track any person of interest has existed for a long time. This is why some of us knew that the hunt for Osama Bin Laden was a joke designed to milk the cash cow that had become the war on terror for as long as possible. Therefore, there is no way that our intelligence agencies could not know what happened to the plane that has captured the attention of the media.

Originally, I remained quiet on the subject of the missing airliner because I thought it was a possibility that our government was going to launch a rescue mission because the plane had been hijacked and we were playing dumb in order to save these people. I then I had to remind myself that placing any kind of faith in this banker-hijacked government is naive at best. Any window of any rescue closed a few days ago. I do not know why this plane was brought down, although I suspect it was done to prevent a technology transfer to the Russians, but I do know that our government knows what happened and who did it. Now, to the point of the article.


Unrevealed Technology

My father did two tours of duty on the carrier, Roosevelt, before retiring from the Navy. In the 1980′s, my father was dying of mesothelioma as a result of being on ships with unabated asbestos. The Roosevelt was such a ship. In the last two years of his life, I visited my father on a nightly basis. It was in these conversations that I learned what my father had been involved in as a result of his work on the Roosevelt and his subsequent work at Martin Marietta which included work with former NAZI scientists as well as one Russian missile expert who had defected at the height of the cold war.

My father was one of the people who rewired the Combat Information Center on the carrier Roosevelt in order to accept the first nuclear weapons aboard a navy ship. Much of the work was done as the ship sailed around Cape Horn located at the southern tip of South America. They did so to escape detection from the Soviets. Later, my father was called back to the ship to make more adjustments to the Combat Information Center, in his second tour on the carrier. This was a highly secure and top secret project and nothing at that time was revealed to our family until my father told me 20 years later.

The Navy early retired my father six months before his actual retirement date and sent him to work at Martin Marietta in the mountains outside of Littleton, Colorado. My family was only told that dad was working on missiles. The truth, as he revealed to me in our nightly conversations, from 1983 to 1985, was that he was working with NAZI scientists on developing technologies which had been on their drawing board, but had not yet developed. Most know of Operation Paper Clip which reverse engineered NAZI technology into our military. However, what my father worked on was the theoretical aspect of what was planned but not yet manufactured.

As my father described, the project was highly compartmentalized and was first overseen by the Office of Naval Intelligence. Later, the CIA wrestled control away and took a very hands on approach. As my father’s responsibilities increased, he developed more awareness of the totality and purpose of the project. He surmised that he was working on a secret military space program complete with an independent weapons system and single craft capable of achieving orbit without the use of a booster rocket. Although my father never received direct confirmation, has was convinced that he was working in a militarized space program which was totally separate from NASA since none of the fruits of his labor ever ended up at the “civilian space agency”. NASA is no more than a cover for what our government has been working on for over 60 years. Why, at the heart of the cold war, would our government not be militarizing space? Of course we were militarizing space and it does not make sense to believe anything else. He told me that the technology that he worked on was an estimated 100-300 years ahead of anything that we had at that time.

Interestingly, my father was a fan of the TV show, Star Trek, created by Gene Roddenberry because he knew that the technology portrayed on the show had already been developed. He told me he was baffled as to why Roddenberry would be allowed to display the technology in such an open matter.

It was revealed to me that we had deep space platforms armed with weapons which could strike anywhere on the face of the planet and beyond. After my father left Martin Marietta, now known as Lockheed Martin, he went to work at Sundstrand Electric in Westminster, Colorado. While at Sundstrand, he met the late Bill Pawelec, a CIA contract agent. Bill Pawelec will eventually meet and become the significant other of my present News Director of The Common Sense Show, Annie DeRiso. Both men performed work on developing a high tech surveillance system for use on the deep space platforms.

My father had warned me I could never publicly speak about these events until after both he and my mother had passed away. My father had signed a national security oath in which he waived all due process rights for any violation of his oath. Any violation would have been met with immediate incarceration to Leavenworth, with hard labor and all financial assets would be forfeited. My father passed away in 1985, but I could not say anything because my mother was receiving his Navy pension. I moved to Arizona three months later and filed away this knowledge and pursued my career interests.


The Art Bell Connection

In 1993, I was listening to the Art Bell show for the first time and Art was interviewing Vance Davis, formerly of the NSA. Vance said some things in the interview that made me think he might have known my father. I tried contacting Vance and left a message and provided the reason why I was contacting him. The next day, both Vance and Bill Pawelec contacted me. I developed a friendship with both men. And from Bill Pawelec, I learned even more about the work my father that he had done at Sundstrand. Privately, I confided in Bill and Vance and told them some of what I knew. Ten years later, through a meeting set up by Bill Pawelec, I had a clandestine meeting about these matters with noted author, Jim Marrs at the airport in Phoenix, in which I told Jim some of what I knew and he said it confirmed much of what he already knew on these topics. As a result of this meeting, I developed a relationship with Jim as has been a guest on my talk show over a dozen times.

I still maintained a very low profile until the forces of Senator John McCain and the CAFTA/CANAMEX Corridor group wanted to force myself and my 300 rural neighbors off of our land without any compensation. As a result of my fighting against McCain’s forces in the media. The late Pete Peterson gave me a position as a talk show host on Sunday afternoons in Wickenburg, AZ. A couple of years later, John Stadtmiller offered me a similar position with the Republic Broadcasting Network. I was one upset person and went to war with the elite on a weekly basis. Unfortunately, I still could not reveal all that I knew because my mother was still alive.

My mother passed away three years ago and I was subsequently free to reveal what I knew, but I chose not to because I was engaged in the fight against the NWO on multiple fronts and did not feel the need to do so, until now.

I can accurately state that we possess the technology to stop all attacks upon the United States or any other area that we choose. What the public was told about with Reagan’s SDI program was a deceptive lie. The MX missile system, for example, was a very expensive disinformation ruse. During the Reagan years, we already had developed technology that most would recognize as being part of HAARP which could, for example, knock down all incoming ICBM’s using HAARP based, localized EMP type of technology, combined with the technology located on the deep space platforms. This war that we are getting ready to fight, is going to be fought with sticks and stones compared to what is available. Subsequently, all of this saber rattling and subsequent mass murder which is about to take place is totally unnecessary.

Millions are needlessly going to die and if the conflict goes nuclear, billions will die. And this is all in the name of a few elite gaining more control so they can live out some preplanned fantasy for control of the planet.


How Advanced Is the Hidden Technology?

The short answer to the question in the subtitle is that I do not know. My information is based on events which happened in the late 1950′s to the mid 1960′s. What I do know is that only a very few know what I know. Only God and a few corrupt people know how far this technology has evolved. This is why I have no trouble believing Steve Quayle’s new book, Exogenesis, about transhumanism and the complete morphing of the human race.

With the suppressed technology, all drought and famine on the planet could end. Do you remember the old 1952 classic movie, The Day the Earth Stood Still, in which a race of aliens had the ability to stop all war in the universe? We have the power to stop all war on the planet today and have had this technology for some time. Do you understand what I am saying, all war could be ended. We could be traveling to the stars and harnessing vast resources. It is highly likely that our military went to the moon long before Neil Armstrong given what I know about the technology which existed in 1960. However, the elite are not going to relinquish control and allow mankind to become what he was intended to become. Therefore, the technology is going to continue to be withheld and man’s suffering will continue as it has for some time. Given what JFK said in his Secret Societies speech, he knew what I am revealing as well and was not on board with the games being played.


What Is a Poor Christian To Do?

Now it should begin to make sense why I have advocated for not being in the banking system controlled by the whoremonger s and warmongers. I have also encouraged people to shop locally and stay out of the corporate entities. Turn off your TV and read a book, the Bible would be a great place to start. What did Jesus say about being in the world and not of the world? It still might be possible to collapse the system from inside-out and begin anew. However, that ship has already sailed and I am sure it is too late.


Conclusion

Annie DeRiso and few of my close friends have been discussing if and when and how completely I should bring out what I know. Since the passing of my mother, I have often considered what I should do. Some have advised me to keep quiet because of the loss of credibility. I personally could care less about this possibility. I don’t know how much longer I am going to continue to write and broadcast. I have other things in life that I am missing out on and I grow weary of trying to arouse a public which is content to watch Dancing with the Stars instead of fighting back against the evil on this planet. As a former mental health professional, I learned that I cannot care more about clients than they cared about themselves. There is a lesson to be learned from that experience regarding the multitude of sheep that inhabit our country.

I well aware of the criticism that will follow this article and truthfully, I could care less. Since beginning broadcasting seven years ago, I have heard allegations wondering where I came from and am I government troll and why did I just suddenly appear from nowhere? Annie DeRiso tells me that people ask her that question a lot. I have been awake for a very long time and I grow weary of the satanic evil that inhabits this planet along with the lack of intelligence and courage displayed by the masses.

What I do know is that this coming war is not needed and many of our kids are going to die. I am damn sure that the intelligence agencies knows how those 239 airline passengers died and how they died. You see, it is all game that works because we choose to remain ignorant of the truth.

It was time to get mad about the state of the world a long time ago. A good time would have been when Jesus drove the money changers from the Temple. Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls. You would be well-advised to focus on adaptation and survival. Take the time to enjoy life while you still can, you may not get a second chance. Just remember that all of what is happening is totally unnecessary.

Operator
14th March 2014, 21:42
...
The late Pete Peterson gave me a ...


?? Is this the Pete Peterson that the Camelot followers all know ??

WHOMADEGOD
14th March 2014, 22:11
Any father who loved his son would say never to disclose personally this type of information if it were true whether he was dead or alive...

superconsciousness
14th March 2014, 22:46
Once one spills the beans, there is no reason to shut someone up, which is helpful. Arrival of Superconsciousness - stay focused on the implications of this manifestation and you will quickly realize that there is nothing to worry about in the long run...in the near term, more yucko.

gripreaper
15th March 2014, 01:02
You know, I get puzzled by these types of articles. Why do they always end up with the context...I know something that no one else knows, and I'm about to reveal it... and why is the religious context still pointing towards christianity and the bible?

This leads me to believe he has not done his homework, and is looking through the glasses of just the last couple hundred years or less, with a subjective bias.

Anyone who has done their homework, especially around here, knows that the entire historical context of this planet is NOTHING like what we were taught, and the nefarious nature of it goes back milennia, and captures ALL dimensions, and the full spectrum of the electromagnetic frequency, and has NOTHING to do with the altered and rewritten texts of the bible, or christianity.


Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls.

There is no savior, no benevolent oligarchical god who is metering out justice, through rewards or punishment. These are the same notions which have been perpetuated to keep us in slavery and bondage, not to liberate us. How can anyone still reconcile the whole religious paradigm on earth and still expect to evolve and take FULL responsibility for self actualization?

How are we to recognize the nature of the elite controllers if we continue to view reality through the eyes of an empath? There is nothing wrong with being an empath and understanding how psychopathy works. As a matter of fact, we must get this part.

We cannot reject the psychopathic nature we carry within until we recognize it and quit filtering our reality through a religious biblical perspective. That's been hijacked thousands of years ago.

ghostrider
15th March 2014, 01:57
There is no savior, no benevolent oligarchical god who is metering out justice, through rewards or punishment. These are the same notions which have been perpetuated to keep us in slavery and bondage, not to liberate us. How can anyone still reconcile the whole religious paradigm on earth and still expect to evolve and take FULL responsibility for self actualization?
exactly , we are responsible for our thoughts and actions , killing continues because of the human disconnect with reality and choosing to live in an illusion ...

Paul
15th March 2014, 02:53
I took the liberty of making a couple of changes to this thread and its opening post:

I improved the formatting of the material quoted from Dave Hodges website, bringing over more of his original formatting.
I removed the qualifier "IMPORTANT" from this thread's title ... I find such tends actually to distract from what's important <grin>.

I suspect that Dave Hodges is essentially correct in his observations here, and I find that there is an interesting overlap between Hodges comments above and those of Joseph P. Farrell, as provided in PurpleLama's post Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers -- Post #367 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809013&viewfull=1#post809013)

Paul
15th March 2014, 02:57
You know, I get puzzled by these types of articles. Why do they always end up with the context...I know something that no one else knows, and I'm about to reveal it... and why is the religious context still pointing towards christianity and the bible?

This leads me to believe he has not done his homework, and is looking through the glasses of just the last couple hundred years or less, with a subjective bias.

There is no savior, ...
Please do not derail this thread with discussions of religion.

The topic of this thread is the missing Malaysian airliner, (very) advanced technology, and the black operatives who may connect those two elements.

Even people of religions we might disdain can be truthful, perceptive and aware (or not.)

heretogrow
15th March 2014, 03:13
World War Three WILL NOT HAPPEN! We create our own reality and we bare a grave responsibility to the outcomes therefore I believe IMHO this needs to be restated! Peace! Freedom! Love!

Much, Much Love being showered and directed right now! Please focus with me!
Julia

PS- Sorry if this is seen as a thread derailment! Not my intentions at all. Let's focus on our collective intentions to tip the scales toward the good for humanity. I believe in our intent more than words can ever express. WE CAN DO THIS!

gripreaper
15th March 2014, 03:36
The topic of this thread is the missing Malaysian airliner, (very) advanced technology, and the black operatives who may connect those two elements.

Is it? If it was, it would point out the connection of the 20 software engineers who were on the plane, who worked for Freescale. The MAJOR shareholders of Freescale, over 70% are Carlyle Group and Blackstone. Who is Carlyle and Blackstone? A little due diligence would show you that the Carlyle group is basically the Bushes, and Blackstone is a who's who' of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Rockefeller's, and the Federal Reserve. I'm not going to provide the links. Do your own due diligence.

So, after reading about 2000 words into the article, where Hodges tells us how he comes from a family of insiders, how he has kept silent for decades, how he is now coming forward to reveal credible information, then makes very general statements without any corroborating evidence, which leads into his conclusions which ask:


WHAT IS A POOR CHRISTIAN TO DO? to which he concludes:
Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls.

This completely taints the information which is useful in the article, something which Joseph Farrell never does. So, Hodges wants us to repent because we are getting meted out our punishment from God for our ignorance. Totally ruined the article for me.

So yes, Hodges made it about religion, not myself or ghostrider.

Paul
15th March 2014, 03:58
The topic of this thread is the missing Malaysian airliner, (very) advanced technology, and the black operatives who may connect those two elements.

Is it? If it was, it would point out the connection of the 20 software engineers who were on the plane, who worked for Freescale. The MAJOR shareholders of Freescale, over 70% are Carlyle Group and Blackstone. Who is Carlyle and Blackstone? A little due diligence would show you that the Carlyle group is basically the Bushes, and Blackstone is a who's who' of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Rockefeller's, and the Federal Reserve. I'm not going to provide the links. Do your own due diligence.

So, after reading about 2000 words into the article, where Hodges tells us how he comes from a family of insiders, how he has kept silent for decades, how he is now coming forward to reveal credible information, then makes very general statements without any corroborating evidence, which leads into his conclusions which ask:


WHAT IS A POOR CHRISTIAN TO DO? to which he concludes:
Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls.

This completely taints the information which is useful in the article, something which Joseph Farrell never does. So, Hodges wants us to repent because we are getting meted out our punishment from God for our ignorance. Totally ruined the article for me.

So yes, Hodges made it about religion, not myself or ghostrider.

Not every thread about the Malaysian airliner need mention the FreeScale engineers. That is a rhetorical distraction. Tsk, tsk.

It is often the case that many of us, of whatever general beliefs and world view, relate the specifics of what we are discussing back to the general principles of our world view. Insisting on discrediting or derailing any discussion of specifics with (in my view, incendiary) rebuttals to the others world view impedes useful discussions of specifics.

If the world view of Dave Hodges ruined this thread for you, that's fine. I'm sure that there are other threads not yet so ruined for you.

But please don't ruin this thread with your rhetorical distractions and world view controversies.

:focus:

Sidney
15th March 2014, 04:59
...
The late Pete Peterson gave me a ...


?? Is this the Pete Peterson that the Camelot followers all know ??

No, i thought that also, so I looked it up and "our" Peter Peterson is still alive and kicking.

The Truth Is In There
15th March 2014, 11:59
things must unfold as they have been foretold.
ww3 will mark the end of this sad era.
every good movie or game ends with a climax, even the "negative" ones.

Truglivartna
15th March 2014, 13:52
I found this blog from Cosmic Awareness to be what I feel may be the actual situation regarding Malaysian Airliner MH370:



The Mystery of the Missing Airliner
That this Awareness is available. Please proceed.

Thank you. Today is March 13, 2014. Welcome Awareness, and thank you for being with us for the Rainbow-Phoenix session of March 13. Will Berlinghof is the Interpreter for your messages, Joan Mills the Questioner and Energizer. The Law of Love, the Law of Light and the Law of Unity have been invoked. Is there an opening message or current event you wish to discuss prior to moving into the questions at this time, please? Thank you.

That this Awareness does have information that It wishes to share about the Malaysian airliner. Previously this Awareness did speak of an accusation being made towards involvement by North Korea. This Awareness did also explain why this may occur, and since this message was delivered there have been indications that perhaps North Korea was involved. This Awareness would state at this time that this is not the case.

That it was not a North Korean missile that shot down the Malaysian airliner. That there are other purposes served by raising this red herring, by pushing this so that some can link the North Korean involvement to the Chinese, thus further discrediting the Chinese who are aligned with the Russians at this time in that conflict which is the Ukrainian situation. That this red herring has not been energized to the degree that was planned. For many have a sense that something extraordinary occurred with this airline that has gone missing, and that even though it was, and is even, the intent of those powers that are in charge in the Western world that would dearly love to create a situation of confusion and blaming of the North Koreans and Chinese, this has not received sufficient energy in the public sector, although the accusations have been made, as this Awareness has said. That the airliner, the Malaysian airliner, was not shot down by the North Koreans, nor did China have any involvement in this matter.

That this Awareness stated a moment ago that many have had a sense that something other than that which is being spoken of occurred. Indeed, many upon hearing the news of the disappearance of this airliner immediately had a sense that something else was up, something else occurred. This before any other information came forward. Therefore, as many had a sense that something extraordinary occurred, it is difficult for those who have had such a sense to settle upon the explanations, the speculations, that have been offered so far.

That this Awareness at this time will state that this aircraft was shot down but not in a way that is normally understood when such a statement is made, such a claim is made. If this airliner had been shot down by traditional means, there would have been debris found, the black boxes would have been found, or at the very least would have taken those searching for the wreckage to that place in the seas where the wreckage is located. So far this has not proven to be the case and despite all previous claims that the black box or black boxes, as there are two, would withstand tremendous force and destruction of a plane that it is that they are embedded into.

That which is most puzzling even for the experts say who are investigating this situation is that up until now, there has been no signal from the black box. That this is that which defies physics and defies that which would normally be the case upon the destruction of an aircraft, especially an aircraft that goes missing at approximately 35,000 feet in altitude. This is because the means by which this aircraft was removed are not means that one could understand in traditional ways in accordance with the laws of physics. This Awareness will state at this time that it was indeed extraterrestrial technologies that were used to remove this aircraft.
There has been some report of the plane turning and flying off in another direction, but the truth of the matter is that the plane did not simply fly somewhere else. The movements of the plane that are shown on radar indicate that the aircraft took evasion movements, tried to avert from its course due to some other factor. What is also shown on the radar that was available at that time is the appearance of two other craft. That these two other craft did have much to do with the disappearance of the aircraft. One of the two craft moved at high speed and placed itself in front of the airliner, at which point the pilot did try to avert his course, did try to lose the one that had appeared in front of him, in front of the aircraft. It is here that the movements of the aircraft are shown on radar: it turning left and right several times before it disappeared from the radar.

This point is of prime importance. That it disappeared, not because it was shot down, not because it came apart at high altitude, but rather because the whole aircraft was simply vanished. There is, as this Awareness said, extraterrestrial technology that is involved in this incident, and it is seen and stated by this Awareness that this extraterrestrial technology was that which did cause the disappearance of this plane.

That this technology is of such a nature that it introduces a new level of weaponry to certain factions. That the extraterrestrial technology that was employed was not employed by those of the Galactic Federation. Indeed this Awareness would say also that it was not directly the result of extraterrestrial involvement involving the Orion/Reptilian Greys, although it is from this source that the extraterrestrial technology was derived.

It is seen that the two ships that were also recorded on radar which are not being mentioned, were craft that was of an earthly origin. That these craft are craft that are being used by the Powers That Be, that are extraterrestrial in nature but built upon this planet and used by those who are in alliance with the Orion/ Reptilian faction. That this has been brought forward as a warning shot, a warning event, that is designed at the highest level to impart to those with knowledge of such matters, a message and a warning. That the aircraft in some ways was vaporized when the technology, the weaponry of extraterrestrial origin, was turned upon it. But it is even more complex than this.

For in a way the vaporization of this aircraft was in actuality the opening of a rift in physical space in that which is commonly called the time/space continuum. And that this aircraft flew through this rift and was transported into another dimension. That if one were to have seen the event from the ground or even from another aircraft that was able to observe this event, it would have appeared that the aircraft was hit by a beam upon which the aircraft vaporized and disappeared. But what is seen by this Awareness is that the craft that had placed itself in front of this airliner had opened this rift and drew the airliner through this rift into another dimensional space. Therefore in this, the aircraft could not be said to have been destroyed, but rather transported instantaneously elsewhere, and it was at this moment that the plane disappeared from radar.

That at this time this Awareness would say that this craft was not destroyed even after it was transported, but remained in one piece. That it is also the case that this airliner could be re-materialized back into this third dimensional space from which it exited if it is the intent of those who have caused this event to occur, if it is their wish and their desire.

It is not seen at this time that this will occur but such is the technology that if it was desired by those who have caused this event, it could indeed come to be. This Awareness at this time does not predict this, does not say this aircraft will re-appear but It does ask one and all to be open to this possibility. It asks one and all to understand a large leap was taken with this action, a leap that will project matters beyond that which has always traditionally been the known, the rules and laws of physics, when an aircraft disappears. The presumption being that it has somehow been destroyed. Never before has such weaponry been used in modern times to create such an occurrence, and many will find this matter hard to accept.
But if it is so, as has so often been spoken of by this Awareness and many others, that there is an extraterrestrial presence on this planet and that there are many factors behind the scenes that have not been divulged or brought into the open and that these matters have now escalated to bring forward such an action.

That this is that which could be understood to be a game-changer. That humanity if, you will, has stepped through an opening into a realm that has not until now been publicly available, publicly acknowledged. This event is of such a nature due to the extreme interest of so many around the world, that it cannot be swept away or covered up.

Many have a sense that something else occurred, something untoward and up until now, something that has never been known before. At this time this Awareness would say: stay open to that which is the extraordinary. Stay open to your own individual sense of what may have occurred, the voice within that is niggling, that is speaking softly that something else happened here.

That in the next few days, other events will occur that will challenge, that may add light to the situation, including statements of denial, red herrings designed to take matters in other directions, known directions, accepted rules of physics and reality. Even if such reports come through, trust your own sense of things. Trust your own instincts, the niggly feeling that this is not what it appears to be.

This is a crucial time; a time of stepping through from one reality to a new reality, the hidden reality that has so long been underway that has so long been hidden and kept secret. This also has much to do with the revelation of extraterrestrial forces that are currently upon this planet, in this planet and above in the skies of this planet. That the perception of reality that has been held for so long, that has been controlled and manipulated for so long, is ready to come apart, is ready to be shaken apart.

That in these next days, weeks and months, it is recommended by this Awareness that one stays centered, despite what may be disclosed, what may come forward. It is to be remembered that each individual has chosen to be upon this planet in these epic times to be part of something greater. To go into fear and chaos will not serve an individual at this time. Trust and have faith that there are indeed greater forces at play here and that this period of time is the period of time so long awaited by so many, and that now when things are starting to happen, it behooves each and every individual to stay calm, to stay centered, to live in trust and faith that no matter what the Powers That Be are playing at, no matter what is occurring in the world or even around oneself in their own personal life, that this is simply a period of readjustment, of new beginnings and new possibilities.

Please proceed if there is a question on that which was the opening message.
Yes there was, Awareness. Are the people who occupied that plane, are they still in the physical? In other words, are they alright or are they totally confused at what has happened?

That it is seen by this Awareness that those who were onboard the plane were not killed at that time when this weapon was used that opened the rift that the plane flew through. That therefore it could be said that these ones are still alive but they are not at this moment on that timeline that most are involved with. They are alive in another dimensional state, a parallel state, a parallel reality.

That it cannot be said at this time whether or not these ones will be returned alive and well, for there are factors here that have not yet been decided. Therefore there are many options as to what could occur. If it did occur that the plane was re-materialized and brought back into that which is this current timeline, that it would be the greatest challenge of all to cover this up, to have individuals returned who were gone for a space of time.

That there are actions that are being taken by those who are the Galactic Federation to achieve this, to return the aircraft and the individuals aboard. It could be said there is a battle raging at this time for this to be accomplished, but it is not at all a given that it will happen. However should this happen, again due to the most public nature of this event, it would be an event impossible to cover up. It would be an event of such historic proportion that the reality of those who live now with certain beliefs and conceptions about reality, that this would be shaken irrevocably and that the world as it is known now and has been understood for many centuries will no longer apply, will no longer make sense, and that which many have spoken of will begin in earnest.

That at this time it is not seen that the individuals aboard this aircraft are dead. It is simply seen they are elsewhere and that there is the possibility that they may be returned if the Galactic Federation force are successful in their efforts. It is to be remembered that the Powers That Be do not hesitate in the least from sacrificing the lives of many innocents and that they are fully prepared to do so again. It is that which could be called a "tricky" situation and it is not the intent of the Powers That Be to return this aircraft and those who are aboard, for it is their intent to send a message to those who would oppose the Powers That Be.

That they have a weapon now of such magnitude and power that they can make aircraft or missiles or ships or anything else disappear if they wish. That this is part of the hidden battle that is taking place at this time. That many actions are not intended for the public's awareness and understanding, but are actually warnings to the ones that would oppose the Powers That Be. But again, many factors are now changing and it is even seen there are factions within this group, the elites, the Powers That Be, the hidden cabal, that are in opposition to these ones in charge and in control. That this too is part of a hidden battle that is taking place at this time, even amongst the rank and file of the Powers That Be.

It is not the purpose of this Awareness at this time to predict outcomes. It is simply sharing alternative information, the information of possibilities, the information of alternatives that this Awareness is engaged in at this time. Still this Awareness does state that as it is now, as seen by this Awareness, those aboard the aircraft are still alive even though they are located elsewhere, and that there are timelines seen by this Awareness that will see these ones returned.

Unfortunately it is also seen by this Awareness timelines where these ones will be sacrificed and will not return. At this time it is not a certainty as to which timeline will be the prevalent one or the one the majority will experience. Therefore, in terms of an individual recognition of this matter, it is again recommended that one holds that there is more out there, that other factors are playing out, and that the reality that the individual wishes to experience would be a reality that sees the return of the aircraft and all aboard.

That this is the strongest action individuals can take at this time: to energize a timeline of an event that would see the return of the aircraft and all aboard. However at this time this Awareness will leave it at that and ask all to stay positive and focused upon those who have been used in this way and in this event, and to visualize the reality of their return.

That this will of course prove much. That the reality that so many are still clinging to that has been presented to one and all as the only reality, that it will be shown that it is not the case, and that this will of course open all of the doors to all other events that could occur. It is always a matter of focus and choice as to that which one wishes to experience in terms of who have reached a point of awareness that is great enough to understand this concept and principle and to accept it and to work it. There is much more that is yet to come forward but at this time, this Awareness feels complete upon this issue and upon this matter, and with this matter.
Thank you, Awareness, that is very, very much appreciated, and it is hoped that all who hear or read this message that they will offer their prayers and positive energies to those onboard the craft, that they are returned safely. Thank you very much for the information. It is appreciated. The Law of Gratitude is invoked.

mpennery
15th March 2014, 15:00
World War Three WILL NOT HAPPEN! We create our own reality and we bare a grave responsibility to the outcomes therefore I believe IMHO this needs to be restated! Peace! Freedom! Love!

Much, Much Love being showered and directed right now! Please focus with me!
Julia

PS- Sorry if this is seen as a thread derailment! Not my intentions at all. Let's focus on our collective intentions to tip the scales toward the good for humanity. I believe in our intent more than words can ever express. WE CAN DO THIS!

Need to be able to click "thanks" on this a few more times!

mpennery
15th March 2014, 15:04
@Paul: ALL the details are important. I also agree with gripreaper that hiding little nuggets of assumptions in editorials like this is very frustrating. I don't think gripreaper was out of line at all in bringing some up. I think sometimes we need to learn to say "Good points and thanks" instead of trying to "one-up", so to speak. No disrespect intended at all. I tend to see both sides.
At this point in this event unfolding I don't see why any detail or point of view should be left out. They all lend to the overall understanding.

Matt

Paul
15th March 2014, 15:39
@Paul: ALL the details are important.
I did not comment above on whether the Freescale engineer details were important.

I disagreed with gripreaper when he stated in Post #10 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69455-The-Malaysian-Airliner-Is-NOT-Missing-War-is-ridiculous-Much-more.--Dave-Hodges-&p=809334&viewfull=1#post809334) that if this thread was about the missing airliner, then (and I quote) "it would point out the connection of the 20 software engineers who were on the plane, who worked for Freescale."

It is obviously possible for a thread to be about the missing airliner, without that thread mentioning those 20 engineers in the first 9 posts. For example, our main thread for the missing airliner did not mention the Freescale engineers until Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers -- Post #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=806602&viewfull=1#post806602).

Geez.

gripreaper
15th March 2014, 16:01
Ok, I’m going to make some assumptions here, since the heading to this thread is that the Malaysian airliner is NOT missing. I’m going to assume that this is what the thread is about, and since this is the only sentence I had to read when I came upon this thread, that is what I am basing this assumption on.

I’m also going to take my time to read this article because Kimberly felt it was of great importance, and I respect her opinion. Although she links the article, she does not herself make any reference to what is in the article which she feels is of utmost importance, other than to state her belief that WW111 will not happen, which she emphasizes in all caps and adds to the thread title that War is ridiculous.

I’m also not that familiar with Dave Hodges, other than to make note he was a guest on Well’s Caravan to Midnight a few nights ago. Other than that, he is new to my radar as well as Kimberly’s.


I suspect that Dave Hodges is essentially correct in his observations here, and I find that there is an interesting overlap between Hodges comments above and those of Joseph P. Farrell, as provided in PurpleLama's post Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers -- Post #367 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809013&viewfull=1#post809013)

And to me, that is where the similarities end. Joseph Farrell does an excellent job of presenting the “woo-woo” scenario by very carefully qualifying his statements and allowing the reader (in his case listener) to draw their own conclusions. In my opinion, and I stand by this, David Hodges does a terrible job by using definitive statements, based on subjective experience. BIG DIFFERENCE. From my vantage point, Joseph Farrell and Dave Hodges are as different as day and night.

So, the salient point is that we are dealing with exotic technology and an undisclosed interloper party, as Joseph Farrell points out, which is not the usual terrestrial nations. He makes a strong case for this argument. All of the early stories surrounding this event stated that the plane just “disappeared”, no debris, no transponders, nothing. Now Dave Hodges comes along and emphatically states that the Malaysian airliner is NOT missing.

Well, where does this lead us? If the airliner is not missing, then where is it? Only two scenarios are plausible based on this inference. Either the plane was diverted by remote control to say Diego Garcia or it did in fact disappear into another dimension through a wormhole or portal. In either scenario, the occupants could still be alive.

So, if we look at the second scenario, which is similar to the Philadelphia experiment, which Joseph Farrell points out, the possibility of the airliner “re-entering” this dimension after a time lapse and the passengers still being alive would certainly shift the perceptions of a majority of the inhabitants of planet earth, not necessarily those here at Avalon who are informed. As Kimberly points out, this would be an unprecedented event.

And what would such an event do? It would totally shatter the religious paradigm which has been part of the energetic matrix of this planet for millennium, the strong beliefs held by a majority which includes Dave Hodges, based on his conclusions in the article above. So, the implication of the religious aspect IS NOT out of line in this thread. AS a matter of fact, in my opinion, it is at the VERY HEART of how this event could play out.

But sorry Dave, I’d like to draw my own conclusions and do not wish to filter the context of your article through your limited religious worldview. That is not going to help mankind make sense of this event. An earth shattering reappearance of a disappeared aircraft will not be able to be explained through your
Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls.

And Paul, this is also the salient point of how proper prose should be written. The reader should be given the postulates and be encouraged to draw their own conclusions. It is also quite obvious to me that this forum is full of opinions, and that it is not uncommon for member posters to render their opinions about articles posted. If this is no longer allowed, then please just say so.

Just because you are a moderator, does that give you poetic license to accuse me of rhetorical distraction when I bring in the Freescale engineers and the Bush/Rockefeller connection. How is this distracting to the overall premise of the event? Our own Bill Ryan was wondering about this point here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809002#post809002) to which you clarified here (”http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809022#post809022”), so apparently this IS an important point and is PART of the discussion and IS NOT distracting. Tsk…tsk

So, if bringing in the overall context of the belief structures which this article, and many others being discussed on this forum at this time relevant to this missing airliner, are considered by you Paul as distracting “world view controversies”, even though such and unprecedented event would shake this paradigm to the very core of all sentient beings, then you are out of touch with what is occurring here on planet earth and with this event. You totally missed the deeper context of what I was trying to convey.

It’s time we stop looking through the limited context of the religious paradigm which has kept mankind captive for millennium, and be prepared to embrace a larger worldview. If this airliner reappears through a rip in space/time, rest assured, this will occur.

This is NOT incendiary, (a device or attack designed to cause fires). You are wrong about this too.

Paul
15th March 2014, 17:19
I suspect that Dave Hodges is essentially correct in his observations here, and I find that there is an interesting overlap between Hodges comments above and those of Joseph P. Farrell, as provided in PurpleLama's post Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers -- Post #367 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=809013&viewfull=1#post809013)

And to me, that is where the similarities end. Joseph Farrell does an excellent job of presenting the “woo-woo” scenario by very carefully qualifying his statements and allowing the reader (in his case listener) to draw their own conclusions. In my opinion, and I stand by this, David Hodges does a terrible job by using definitive statements, based on subjective experience. BIG DIFFERENCE. From my vantage point, Joseph Farrell and Dave Hodges are as different as day and night.
Yes - some overlap in their theory - great difference in other aspects, as you describe.


And what would such an event do? It would totally shatter the religious paradigm which has been part of the energetic matrix of this planet for millennium, the strong beliefs held by a majority which includes Dave Hodges, based on his conclusions in the article above. So, the implication of the religious aspect IS NOT out of line in this thread. AS a matter of fact, in my opinion, it is at the VERY HEART of how this event could play out.
Yes - many schools of thought and religion would have some serious rethinking to do.


But sorry Dave, I’d like to draw my own conclusions and do not wish to filter the context of your article through your limited religious worldview. That is not going to help mankind make sense of this event. An earth shattering reappearance of a disappeared aircraft will not be able to be explained through your
Now, we are going to pay the price for our disobedience to God and our absolute ignorance. I sincerely mean this when I say, may God have mercy on our souls.

And Paul, this is also the salient point of how proper prose should be written. The reader should be given the postulates and be encouraged to draw their own conclusions. It is also quite obvious to me that this site is full of opinions, and that it is not uncommon for member posters to render their opinions about articles posted. If this is no longer allowed, then please just say so.
I've read Dave Hodges many times, and tend to skip over the religious parts, as if they weren't even there. I failed to realize that others would be unable to consider anything useful Hodges might have to say, because his religious views would, in your words, "completely taint the information which is useful in the article" and "totally ruin the article" for you.

So when you focused on strongly criticizing his religious views (I hold them in no greater respect myself) I found it to be a distraction from what I had understood to be the main topic of this thread, that being a theory of what happened to the airplane and whether we could avoid war.


Just because you are a moderator, does that give you poetic license to accuse me of rhetorical distraction when I bring in the Freescale engineers and the Bush/Rockefeller connection.

You did not just "bring in the Freescale engineers ...". You stated that if this thread was about the missing airplane, then (and I quote) "it would point out the connection of the 20 software engineers who were on the plane, who worked for Freescale."

In other words, since the thread had not already mentioned the Freescale engineers prior to your stating that, you were concluding that this thread was not evidently about the missing airplane as I had asserted.

To quote my previous reply above:

It is obviously possible for a thread to be about the missing airliner, without that thread mentioning those 20 engineers in the first 9 posts. For example, our main thread for the missing airliner did not mention the Freescale engineers until Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers -- Post #27 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=806602&viewfull=1#post806602).

Geez.

Your implication that a thread could not have been about the missing airplane unless it has already discussed the Freescale engineers was so obviously bogus to me that it was a rhetorical distraction.

Perhaps you were thinking something else when you wrote those words, and perhaps what you were thinking was good stuff.

But I flunked out of mind reading school (well, never actually attended such) ... and so I am mostly limited to the words you post, not whatever else you were thinking at that point.


So, if bringing in the overall context of the belief structures which this article, and many others being discussed on this forum at this time relevant to this missing airliner, are considered by you Paul as distracting “world view controversies”, even though such and unprecedented event would shake this paradigm to the very core of all sentient beings, then you are out of touch with what is occurring here on planet earth and with this event. You totally missed the deeper context of what I was trying to convey.

Yes - I did miss that. I missed it at least in part because your first reply above focused on how wrong his religious view was, without stating (that I can find ... correct me if I am wrong) that such an event as the return of the airliner or its passengers would be such an "unprecedented event [that] would shake this paradigm to the very core of all sentient beings." I also missed it in part because of your obviously incorrect implication that no thread could be about the missing airplane if it lacked some earlier post about the Freescale engineers. I also missed it in part because rather than (did I miss something?) state how great a paradigm shift such an event would be, you used your eloquence to critique Hodges religious views, saying it how Hodges religious views had tainted his article and totally ruined the article for you.

In short .... as best as I can tell ... I missed it because you didn't say it back then.


This is NOT incendiary, (a device or attack designed to cause fires). You are wrong about this too.
Touché :).

Paul
15th March 2014, 17:26
And what would such an event do? It would totally shatter the religious paradigm which has been part of the energetic matrix of this planet for millennium, the strong beliefs held by a majority which includes Dave Hodges, based on his conclusions in the article above. So, the implication of the religious aspect IS NOT out of line in this thread. AS a matter of fact, in my opinion, it is at the VERY HEART of how this event could play out.
I am repeating this part of your reply, because it is worth repeating.

If my getting under your skin helped in anyway to provoke your clear expression of this, then it was not for naught.

Yes - this missing airplane could be Act One of a Three Act Play:

Plane and passengers go missing
Plane and passengers reappear in a dramatic but (by conventional scientific or conventional religious thought) "impossible" way.
Conventional science and religion have some serious rethinking to do.

gripreaper
15th March 2014, 17:37
In short .... as best as I can tell ... I missed it because you didn't say it back then.

Damn it, I guess I'll have to hold myself to the same high standards I expect from others, and be very clear and succinct in everything I write, to make sure I don't mislead or misconstrue.

Yes, I could have been more clear when introducing the Freescale scenario and NOT made a definitive conclusive statement that a thread of such nature certainly cannot proceed without this info. In light of the overall context, sometimes you can get away with it, but apparently this point was singled out of the larger context, which I apparently was not very clear about either in my early postings, and it was misconstrued to be about Dave Hodges subjective personal limited worldview, when the context was intended to be much broader.

In any event, if I am being held to this standard, then most certainly Dave Hodges should be, and the rest of Avalonian's as well. I'm tired of articles with subjective bias, unsubstantiated innuendo, baited headings, self aggrandizing credentials, and irrelevant conclusions.

I'm going to call them as I see them. I'll be more careful with the context and the implications in the future, but you can safely assume that my worldview is very expansive and the context will almost always be a reflection of the 2800 posts I have here at Avalon. You are free to peruse those by clicking here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?searchid=8689773)

Paul
15th March 2014, 17:45
In short .... as best as I can tell ... I missed it because you didn't say it back then.

Damn it, I guess I'll have to hold myself to the same high standards I expect from others, and be very clear and succinct in everything I write, to make sure I don't mislead or misconstrue.

Yes, I could have been more clear when introducing the Freescale scenario and NOT made a definitive conclusive statement that a thread of such nature certainly cannot proceed without this info. In light of the overall context, sometimes you can get away with it, but apparently this point was singled out of the larger context, which I apparently was not very clear about either in my early postings, and it was misconstrued to be about Dave Hodges subjective personal limited worldview, when the context was intended to be much broader.

In any event, if I am being held to this standard, then most certainly Dave Hodges should be, and the rest of Avalonian's as well. I'm tired of articles with subjective bias, unsubstantiated innuendo, baited headings, self aggrandizing credentials, and irrelevant conclusions.

I'm going to call them as I see them. I'll be more careful with the context and the implications in the future, but you can safely assume that my worldview is very expansive and the context will almost always be a reflection of the 2800 posts I have here at Avalon. You are free to peruse those by clicking here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?searchid=8686533)

Yes - I am familiar with your presence here :). As you might have noticed yourself, I've been following this forum rather closely for the last three years.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
15th March 2014, 18:20
Have you guys been looking at the Computer Hacking angle for this Boeing 777 disappearance?

Last year some of us here on the forum were complaining about the big loans given out of American taxes to foreigners buying Boeing planes.
Because almost all the product covered by the Export Import Bank was feeding companies like Boeing and Enron.

And we all knew that the latest line of jetliners had issues, from structure to coding.
And being the first "computer built" plane, well, we know it likely has some BACKDOORS built into it.
For those who believe in the Sentient Web, for instance.

This scenario is IMPECCABLY constructed, what we are seeing play out over the ocean.
Because SO MANY things could have caused it to happen.
It could have been ANYTHING -- a missile, a hijacker, a corrupted pilot, an energy weapon, induced error in the pilot instruments,
autopilot corruption, etc. etc etc

Fly by Wire scares the **** out of me as a former MXS troop btw.


p.s. there are Americans who don't care how bad our country gets hurt, because they make money off of our misery

link to another Malaysia Airlines thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69360-Crowdsourcing-DARPA-s-Red-Balloons-Surveillance-False-Flags-and-MA-Flight-370

carryattune
15th March 2014, 18:22
I am getting so confused. I believe in God. I have no problem in at least considering all this other stuff. Meaning everything being discussed here at Avalon. You can believe something exists. But you don't have to partake. Truely I kinda lost track of what this thread is actually about. III world War. I hope not. ETS stole the whole darn plane. Maybe. Are the passengers dead or alive? I hope they are alive, and will be returned to their families. Not intending to derail this thread. But a belief in God, should not negate a persons capacity for intelligent thought. Just terms. Just terms.

jp11
15th March 2014, 18:48
Like Paul when reading the initial post I (not speaking for Paul) was first uncomfortable with the religious element...then I went to the link for his site and read about him and the women with him in this endeavour... Based on that I put aside the religious element thinking other info was valuable.

I respect both Paul and gripreaper and am feeling better than an understanding appears to have happened between you. Thank you both for your info and opinions. I myself don't feel qualified to do all the intensive research you do and very much appreciate your time, opinions and shared research links.

:)

chocolate
15th March 2014, 21:00
I started a post this morning trying to bring about my own opinion, but as luck would have it, I lost the post, and abandoned the idea.

What I wanted to say was:



[...]

My wife and I were having lunch at a restaurant yesterday and she was asking me what I thought was behind the missing Malaysian airliner. I told her that I could not be certain, but that our NSA and CIA knows exactly what happened to that plane and where it happened. Strangely, there was a man sitting in the booth behind us who leaned over and said “I could not help overhearing what you were talking about. I used to work for DARPA before retiring and madam your husband is correct. There is nothing that we could not monitor and that includes ships, planes, automobiles and people. We have technology that the public will not know about for 100 years.”

[...]


I think the situation described above sounds rather strange.

I did not spend more than 5 minutes (reading through that article) after that point.

I saw almost nothing all that new, or valuable for me, but if the desire were to keep us informed here, I had no problem reading.

Loren
15th March 2014, 21:02
I think if your a member here most of these possibilities must have gone through our minds already ? We are an open minded bunch , that's why we are here. There are universal truths that rule us and that's what true religion is all about , not the organized ones that kill and corupt . We all have a higher self and I think spirituality and God has a place in everything.Thank you all for your input .L

Kimberley
16th March 2014, 17:25
It is such a pleasure to be in connection with all the inquiring souls here at Avalon. The thoughts and comments here fascinate me.

Also I have been reading the comments being posted on Dave Hodges article...they give me confidence in humanity.

:grouphug:

ghostrider
16th March 2014, 18:51
You know, I get puzzled by these types of articles. Why do they always end up with the context...I know something that no one else knows, and I'm about to reveal it... and why is the religious context still pointing towards christianity and the bible?

This leads me to believe he has not done his homework, and is looking through the glasses of just the last couple hundred years or less, with a subjective bias.

There is no savior, ...
Please do not derail this thread with discussions of religion.

The topic of this thread is the missing Malaysian airliner, (very) advanced technology, and the black operatives who may connect those two elements.

Even people of religions we might disdain can be truthful, perceptive and aware (or not.)

Sorry Paul , my mistake ...

Truglivartna
17th March 2014, 12:37
Well, here's the latest on MH370 from a well-respected whistleblower: Tom Henneghan. If correct, it says a lot about "Cosmic un-Awareness"


Thursday March 13, 2014
CHINESE BOX EXPOSED
by Tom Heneghan, International Intelligence Expert

UNITED States of America - It can now be reported that elements of the Chinese military are set to decapitate the current Chinese government aka their Politburo. Elements of the Chinese military have evidence linking the current Communist Chinese Politburo to a major financial ponzi scheme involving the central Bank of Japan, the U.S. Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank (ECB). The current Chinese Politburo has sacrificed Chinese treasury funds (using a stooge CIA proprietary account named Hampton Lampoon with a link to HSBC of Hong Kong).

The current Chinese Politburo has stolen and put into their pockets massive proceeds from manipulation in concert with the Central Bank of Japan and U.S. banking giant JPMorgan in the aforementioned manipulation of both the Japanese yen and the Chinese yuan for the purpose of keeping the German Nazi Deutsche Bank-ECB euro denominated derivatives solvent.

P.S. We can now report that the Malaysian aircraft that had as its final destination Beijing, China did turn around and actually land in the nation of India. It was the heroic Vietnamese Air Traffic Control and their Air Force that communicated directly with the mystery flight out of Malaysia and told them that if they did not turn around the Chinese Air Force would shoot the plane down.

FACT: The recent attempt by the Chinese Politburo, CNN cable news network and the U.S. Nazi Paperclip NSA to put out disinformation aka false evidence about the Malaysian flight crashing in the China Sea confirms that the Chinese Politburo and the U.S. Nazi Paperclip NSA were preparing to shoot the Malaysian aircraft out of the air and commit massive genocide. We can now divulge that three (3) members of the highest level of the Chinese military were on the flight bound for Beijing.

FACT: When the Malaysian aircraft separately turned off their transponders that was an attempt by the Malaysian aircraft pilot to disguise the aircraft from Chinese radar and accordingly safeguard the passengers from the criminal, crooked worldwide bank-controlled Chinese government. It should also be noted that on the day of 9/11 aka George W. BushFRAUD and neo-Nazi Dick Cheney’s Nazi Paperclip Reichstag fire the transponders on the 9/11 Boston-based flight was also turned off with the aircraft being diverted to Nova Scotia, Canada, which then allowed the “U.S.-Canadian Red-Blue War Games” to be used as a disguise with a “stand down” order given to the U.S. Military given by Cheney to allow scalar technology and holograms to be used to attack the World Trade Center. This information has been confirmed to me by Canadian Air Force officials and former Toronto, Canada talk show host and former Canadian Air Force pilot Nelson Thall aka Lenny Bloom.

Item: Thall aka Bloom, who is Jewish, eventually distanced himself from this reporter and did so on the orders of Israel Mossad agent and NSA stooge Eric Jon Phelps who actually ordered the assassination of former Chicago-based electronic journalist and judge buster, the legendary Sherman Skolnick.

P.P.S. The Chinese economy, which is now in a massive depression thanks to the relationship with criminal U.S., European and Japanese banks, is set for total collapse, with the U.S. and European Union and their massive worldwide criminal banking ponzi scheme being totally exposed.

P.P.P.S. At this hour Russian President Vladimir Putin has told mashed potato face aka U.S. Secretary of State “skull and bonesman” George W. Bushfraud’s 3rd cousin, John Kerry Cohen, that he will not tolerate under any conditions ponzi schemes being run out of Ukrainian and Hungarian banks that are designed to attack the Russian ruble currency in order to ‘bail out’ the margin deficiencies of financial terrorist George Soros’ derivative holdings in the Nazi German Deutsche Bank.

In closing, we urge patriot members of the U.S. Military that still believe in the Constitution to PIVOT and use whatever methods are necessary to immediately restore the U.S. Constitution as the Supreme Law of our Land! The U.S. Military PIVOT will start with the shut down and decapitation of the NAZI Paperclip NSA controlled media outlets like CNN, FOX News and MSNBC.

It would be nice to put Erin Burnett, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews and Bill O’Reilly on an island in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
The island can be named “Conspiracy Theory Island”.

As we live free or die, Lafayette remains at Brandywine and Albert Gore Jr. remains the year 2000 duly elected, non inaugurated, natural born REAL President of the United States.


http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com/CHINESE-BOX-EXPOSED__03-13-2014.html

Note that current news media state that Flights over India in search of the missing Malaysian plane are forbidden. Further evidence of the truthfulness of the above?

ljwheat
19th March 2014, 23:43
Wow , I must say this thread has blown me away from my own time line.

I haven’t posted here in a long time, but this I feel needs a reply: this is not off topic , but is smack in the middle of all topic’s.. and that’s What time line are you in or following among trillions of possible time line’s.

At this moment is like listening to a radio signal just two clicks over from this one at this moment, I do not exist.

Or would ever even know your time line, on this topic, Rabbit hole’s of time lines only exist in the one your in.

World war III will happen for those who follow this time line. And those who turn the dial just a few notches out of this thinking or time line will not go threw that rabbit hole.

Here is only one example of what I am saying. You will have to find or prove to yourself this time line reality thingy dose exist - and can change how fare you move the radio dial….

A lady here on Avalon and here husband were sitting on the dock in back of there home, enjoying the mid day sun, as the angle of the sun was changing she thought I should get up and go get my sun glasses, but new she had broken them and placed them back into the dresser drawer where she always keeps them….

Her husband sitting next to her , while thinking about her broken sun glasses ,, Got up and went back into the house, being a good husband went to the wife drawer, pulled out the un - broken sun glasses on his time line and brought the down to her. Now did you catch that? Two time line’s Here, this is a true story. And the proof is all around us, the choice is what is your brain thinking and choosing, attention who is in control of it. YOU or the TV, you or a whistle blower, you or a religion, you or a story you are following, you or a reality you think is taking place.

For thousands of year’s the elite, have played with time line’s and holding your attention here or there. Control is about attention and were yours is enslaved to.

Once we realize where attention go’s power flows. And who controls it…. This you have to prove to yourself, and this is where the rabbit never go’s or is seriously looked at. Because it’s a controlled environment we were born into. So we know no different.

On my time line there will never be world war three, we are energy and it’s a frequency, turn the dial and put a lock on it. that’s the real secret they don’t want us to find out.

Your attention…. I’m keeping mine off this time line, no war……..

Kimberley
23rd March 2014, 16:59
Just saw what you wrote several days ago ljw...well said.

Truglivartna
31st March 2014, 18:48
New clue to who's really at fault. See jimstonefreelance' new release: "cellphone call from IBM scientist incarcerated on Diego Garcia. Concealed his cellphone in his anal cavity when he realized what was happening".

http://jimstonefreelance.com/

Trugli

Atlas
31st March 2014, 19:07
New clue to who's really at fault. See jimstonefreelance' new release: "cellphone call from IBM scientist incarcerated on Diego Garcia. Concealed his cellphone in his anal cavity when he realized what was happening".

Trugli

There is already a thread here: projectavalon.net/IBM-ENGINEER-TAKEN-FROM-HIJACKED-FLIGHT-370-SENDS-TEXT&p=816683 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69948-Amazing--if-proved-true--IBM-ENGINEER-TAKEN-FROM-HIJACKED-FLIGHT-370-SENDS-TEXT&p=816683&viewfull=1#post816683)


IMPORTANT NEWS for Followers of Finding Philip Wood:

Messages of hope & support continue to be posted by caring people around the world. These messages are a great comfort and are so deeply appreciated. Thank you.

Unfortunately, there are also postings and repostings of a horrid hoax regarding cell & text messages & "selfies" from Philip. Please don't fall prey to these postings. They are counterproductive and insensitive and they will be deleted by the page administrator.

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Dear Friends. Someone has attempted to hijack my personal Facebook presence. The profile "Sarah Bajc" is not me. It has been reported to Facebook as being an impostor. Thank you to Sandy for catching this. Please let me know if you see this again.

One big problem is that Wood's partner Sarah Bajc clearly does not believe it, neither do his family apparently.

Cidersomerset
31st March 2014, 19:36
There are many articles and incidents that can flare up or be used as a false flag.
It does feel more than usual are happening as it approaches 'SPRING' 2014
the traditional time for upheavals.....Just as the bank scandals are coming off the
front pages...Scaremongering , posturing , fears of mil budget cuts......Take your picks !!




US military in no shape to face the grandsons of Red Army


http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20140329/356491_Russian-soldiers%20.jpg
Russian soldiers patrol the area surrounding the Ukrainian military unit in
Perevalnoye, Ukraine on March 20, 2014.

‘War fever is in the air. Fifty thousand Russian troops and armor are massed on
Ukraine’s eastern border. Europe and Washington worry that the reborn Red Army
may sweep west across Ukraine, Moldova, the Baltics – even into Poland.

The West is suffering from a bad case of Cold War chills.

Not only are the Western powers worried, they are discovering that they likely lack
the means to stop possible Russian incursions into what was the former Soviet Empire.

They should not be at all surprised that Russia is again showing signs of life.’

Read more …

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/29/356491/war-fever-in-the-air/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/


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I posted this on the other thread, but has its place here....


Plane taken not crashed ?? Thought provoking interview with partner of Philip Wood



'Governments are intentionally misleading us' on Malaysia plane - BBC News

S1zNy-5ESos

https://yt3.ggpht.com/-Em-drWQ3uYI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/b-RZ1gDQAIc/s48-c-k-no/photo.jpg
BBC News

Published on 28 Mar 2014


In a powerful interview the partner of Philip Wood, a passenger on #MH370,
said the search for the flight 'feels like an intentional series of distractions'.
Sarah Bajc wants the authorities to withdraw the original statement about
the flight being down due to 'new evidence'.

Hervé
31st March 2014, 19:50
International observers and Ukrainian military officials: 'There is no Russian troop build-up on Ukraine's borders - The West is trying to fit the facts around the policy, again' (http://rt.com/news/russia-ukraine-troops-obama-945/)


RT (http://rt.com/news/russia-ukraine-troops-obama-945/)
Mon, 31 Mar 2014 05:48 CDT



http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/178397/medium/the_russians_are_coming.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/178397/full/the_russians_are_coming.jpg)


RUN!!!

Oh, wait... it's all BS. Nevermind, carry on!



Russia has denied any troop build-up on the Ukraine border, a claim voiced by President Barack Obama and Kiev officials. Moscow slammed the West for ignoring the results of recent fact-finding missions for the sake of political expediency.

On Friday Obama urged Russia to pull back "a range of troops," which he said, "we have seen [...] massing along that border under the guise of military exercises."

"But these are not what Russia would normally be doing," Obama said, speaking with CBS on his trip to Rome.

He then suggested that the troop build-up could be "just an effort to intimidate Ukraine."

"It may be that they've got additional plans," Obama said.

The US president's comments came the day after a Ukrainian security official told Executive Vice President of the US-Atlantic Council Damon Wilson that "almost 100,000 soldiers are stationed on the borders of Ukraine and in the direction ... of Kharkov, Donetsk."

"Russian troops are not only in Crimea, they are along all Ukrainian borders. They're in the south, they're in the east and in the north," Andrey Parubiy, one of the so-called Maidan "commandants" who has been appointed chairman of Ukraine's Security Council, told the Atlantic Council during a web conference Thursday.

Parubiy expressed his worry that continental Ukraine might "see a huge attack" on its territory.

"We are getting ready for it," he said.

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/178398/medium/red_menace_anti_soviet_propaga.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s8/178398/full/red_menace_anti_soviet_propaga.jpg)
Have you had YOUR fill of lies today?

No?

Then hurry to your nearest Western corporate media outlet!

In the past few days, Western media has extensively reported that Russia is positioning its troops in Crimea and along the Ukrainian border. Some of the major news outlets speculated that Russian troops "appeared to be concealing their positions, trying to cloak their equipment, and establishing supply lines."

Responding to those accusations, Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement, in which it recalled four probes in March by foreign missions in Russia of regions bordering Ukraine.

The four international missions included representatives of Latvia, Germany, Switzerland, Finland, Estonia, Belgium, France and Ukraine. None of the missions "found 'aggressive preparations' and have not recorded any military activities, aside from the previously declared," the statement said.

"Opportunities to conduct such activities were provided to all those who wished to get acquainted with the real situation in the border with Ukraine regions," the ministry said.

The statement emphasized that "even Ukrainian inspectors" agreed that "there were no major military activities being carried out."

"The result of this was the official reports submitted to all OSCE member states. The objective information contained in those reports, in our view, should have become a subject of an impartial analysis and basis for further conclusions," the statement said.

This, however, is not the case here, the ministry said.

As another proof that there are no additional Russian troops and active military preparations, the Foreign Ministry referred to recent observation flights by American and German inspectors.

"The official results of those flights will be known later, after the processing of photographic materials. However, one can assume that if signs of large concentration of the armed forces were spotted from the air, our partners would not wait to present the 'evidence'. Hence, it simply does not exist," the ministry said.

Russia's Foreign Ministry also questioned the objectivity of Western politicians.

"Is objective information collected by military inspectors not provided to the political leadership [of Western countries]? Or are these leaders, yielding to their emotions, inclined to ignore the facts in order to satisfy their own political tastes and preferences?" the ministry said.

Cidersomerset
31st March 2014, 19:52
A lady here on Avalon and here husband were sitting on the dock in back of there home, enjoying the mid day sun, as the angle of the sun was changing she thought I should get up and go get my sun glasses, but new she had broken them and placed them back into the dresser drawer where she always keeps them….

Her husband sitting next to her , while thinking about her broken sun glasses ,, Got up and went back into the house, being a good husband went to the wife drawer, pulled out the un - broken sun glasses on his time line and brought the down to her. Now did you catch that? Two time line’s Here, this is a true story. And the proof is all around us, the choice is what is your brain thinking and choosing, attention who is in control of it. YOU or the TV, you or a whistle blower, you or a religion, you or a story you are following, you or a reality you think is taking place.

Ion explains that by parallel worlding we do it all the time , mostly unconsciously. Many can do it
consciously and can stay there or come back. The late Queen Mother apparently could do it and
brought gold back with her.

This ties in with Ion explanation that the plane is in a parallel world right now. Obviously we
have to be sensitive to relatives feeling who will probably not agree with this......

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Ion still says the plane is in a parallel world and the authorities
have been desperately covering it up. I'm going thru satpm/sun am
show 29/3/14......

aprox 11 mins in, a brief question and answer about the
plane......Who know ? I'll post it as I've just heard it.

http://achieveradio.com/archDL.php?ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/media2/PAYDAY/2014-03-29--2300---PAYDAY.mp3


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As per # 535 The plane landed in Hanoi in a parallel world, there was a temporal
shift the seismic activity around Phuket ? , was a little more significant than
reported near to where the plane went first , this created a temporal convergence
to another dimension.....

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSED3UMJaCyDIokY-iBzKAjnKyU99--s40Cn4jwzJVn9XM7LSXa

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=810246&viewfull=1#post810246

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#98 on this thread first mentioned by Ion....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=807290&viewfull=1#post807290

Cidersomerset
31st March 2014, 20:00
International observers and Ukrainian military officials: 'There is no Russian troop build-up on Ukraine's borders - The West is trying to fit the facts around the policy, again'

Exactly .......Who's spin do we believe.

EudSB5lVccg

Cidersomerset
31st March 2014, 20:21
Same old squabbles that have been going on for centuries , Why don't they
research who is behind the whole thing !!! Follow the money & power.



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CrossTalk: Cold War 2.0?

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Published on 31 Mar 2014


How do the West and Russia interpret the results of the Cold War?
Is NATO at the heart of the so-called "New Cold War"? Does NATO
refuse the partnership with Russia? And are Russia and the West
doomed to be adversaries? CrossTalking with Geoffrey Hosking,
Eric Draitser and Wolfgang Richter.

Flash
31st March 2014, 21:01
whatt i am saying is that when information in concentrated in one place, we can see the logic or illogic in it and see the mistakes of PTB. When it is all spread out, we cannot see anymore and disinformation is having a greater impact. Lets beat the PTB by keeping info centralised.

there is now 3-4 threads on the same topic, most not from different angles, and i hav to run from thread to thread. It was working very well with one thread. Why play the PTB game here?

Tesla_WTC_Solution
31st March 2014, 21:36
I agree that there are many threads on this topic, but sad for us, it's the "topic of the year".

Early into this (in spite of my own stupid thread) I remember saying "people should ignore it",
because what TPTB are doing is distracting us with this story --

It does suck that so many people may have died/gone missing, etc.
But it's so "sensational" -- warped news is what I call it... it's distorted so far that it's the umbrella covering everything else of importance!

We should look at the OTHER news and figure out what TPTB are hiding while the 370 story is main headline.

each and every time something like this happens, something else is happening too -- in a dark room full of Congressmen etc. lol

Snoweagle
1st April 2014, 01:56
My very first impression when I heard the plane had disappeared, in that region, was it was brought down by someone to provoke war. When the lack of debris became apparent, I immediately think scalar weapons, it was evaporated. (like the Towers) The hijack thang doesn't add up either, that's a tale to wag the tongue imho.

Sadly people are missing and we regret their loss.

WE will continue to question this event as we scrutinise the others.

We all do it differently, but we do it
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