lake
28th April 2014, 18:36
So 369 and any religion, but for this incursion, lets use the bible. Tesla said understand 369 and understand the universe, or words to that effect!
I present this 'thought' that energy, vibration and frequency were there within the nothing before any material form or any god.
I have posted this before and it caused 'problems'....shall we say. I do not care if you have a faith in the written words of this book (or any book, personally I quite like Terry Pratchett) or not, I only wish to learn....and by research further understanding.
For the record....I do NOT believe in ANY religion 'pushed' by man.
I feel that creation, defined by the sum total of awareness is in an action within and without of this limited physicality that we render, singularly as a drama construction, for our unique interaction, which then in no time will be an asset to the whole being of no thing that we truly are.
Using 3 different versions of the bible ( 1611 king James, 1599 Geneva and Wycliffe 1382 ) in the opening of Genesis I
(Not trying to discredit anything but looking for hidden meanings.)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1611
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1599
In the beginning God made of nought heaven and earth. - 1382
This is a statement, an opening not meant as a description, as the description is then given.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. - 1611
And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the waters. - 1599
Forsooth the earth was idle and void, and darknesses were on the face of (the) depth; and the Spirit of the Lord was borne on the waters. - 1382
So from this we can find that the earth was not yet created. That darkness, depth and water already existed, so are not a creation of God. Then the spirit of God was moved or borne on the water.
Interesting....God was a spirit borne on the water!!!!
Water in old Latin is unda which means wave.
Darkness can mean deep and rich, with a melancholy sound.
Depth is defined as the distance from top down or front to back, or the intensity of color or sound.
Thus we could state that before God (was borne?) there was:
No Earth, but there was a wave (sound) of a rich intensity.
This is backed up by looking at John 1
(read word as wave (sound))
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - 1611
In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that]Word was God. - 1599
In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word. - 1382
So the word was first. Then the word was with God. Then the two interacted.
God did not create the word, it existed before God.
Word is sound, a wave form, creation from a vibration.
Then of course it goes on that God created man and man is a creation of light and that the darkness had to separate from the light as it did not understand man!
But remember that the light (man, not the light we think of as stars as these had yet to be made) was created by the 'water' through the now created 'god'
In John1 (1599):
All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made.
In it was life, and that life was the light of men.
And that light shineth in the wilderness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not.
So....ALL is made from IT.......not him or god but IT
Life (creation, God) came from IT
the wave, sound.
Also:
And the evening and the morning were the first day. - 1611
So the evening and the morning were the first day. - 1599
And the eventide and the morrowtide was made, one day. - 1382
Evening and then morning is not a day.
But in a day are 2 tides, evening and morning tides.
Within a wave form such as sound you have a depth....within tides you have a depth.
How deep is time?
So this wave is higher than god?
Theres been studies of the background radiation that exists throughout the Universe, but it cannot be radiation as light had not yet been created? So it must be a wave of sound?
Right we have only discussed two lines of Genesis an a few from John 1 and I can only state that God was created by ….?
Lets look at the next lines. In fact a few lines later, line 6, yes the sixth line in the bible!
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 1611
Again God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters. 1599
And God said, The firmament be made in the midst of (the) waters, and part (the) waters from (the) waters. 1388
By the way....firmament means heaven (or also means a vault, something to stop another from gaining or to stop that which is in the 'safe' from leaving).....so heaven did not exist before this? God had no home on line five of the bible???
So if we consider the 'waters' to be the 'wave form' which existed before God and was the creator of God then we can see that God now is creating a 'heaven' between the wave!
We already know that the 'waters' were not created by God, in fact according to the bible the 'waters' created God.
Sorry I am presuming that you do really wish to wake up?
Two things....know thy self....know where you are?
If not please leave leave this thread and consume the words here no more!
I am not being rude nor confrontational....its just if you have not an open mind ( or conception of a personal mind) then the next line may offend you.
Consider the concept as we have been told of a fallen Angel who wished to be as God....then consider this thread in a new light....or should I say sound?
It would seem which ever way I attempt to describe that which I am seeing....it can and will be taken in the wrong manner!
Post with regard to the bible or god, on any forum and all one gets is either god nuts saying its all the truth or god haters saying its all crap.
This book is the backbone of the largest corporation on this earth, the basis of all the laws on earth and the greatest form of intimidation and death on this earth.
All I want is a discussion with regard to the meaning of the words?
In the above it would seem to state that god was not the first thing, in fact god seems to be the opposite of what we are told and that fits as in this world all is backwards.
Remember firmament also means vault. A place to lock some thing away in.
The light of man could also be read as the limited aspect of the light spectrum which a man can see.
The devil is in the details
So we have energy / darkness (9)....vibration / wave (6)....frequency / depth (3)
Maybe if I try to put it like this:
I am within a place....where to have or continue existence I must utilize another being for my own gain.
I cannot prove otherwise.......even though I have considered every option or opinion which I can become aware of.
My physical form dictates that I consume another being, animal or plant.......even water has its own awareness.
The spoken word here....decides a hierarchy which within is an exchange of energy and belief.
This exchange is seldom equal.......it is a use of another to further the self....yes the same as this post.
To allow the use of another species or in fact the planet without trying to change things is an incorrect nature.
But.......to change things within another....is also wrong as it will use their being and turn it to your own.
How can I change things.......I cannot as this means that I remove responsibility from others, and I become responsible for them and their , now mine, action into a future.
How can one 'be'....by using others?
But if I do not change things for the better....then I become less and fail.......but what is better? And who's better would that encompass?
I am connected to others actions by my non action by becoming complicit to that which they have done and I have then allowed through my knowledge of the act.
This then would be enough.......to limit my being once again. (so a 'return')
I know that you find this very hard and harsh to understand but....IF I DO NOT ACT, THEN OTHERS ACTIONS OF WHICH I HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECOME MINE by my non action and then being complicit to the act.
But.......IF I ACT, THEN I REMOVE RESPONSIBILITY FROM ALL OTHERS AND DETERMINE THEIR FATE BY MY ACTIONS.
But I cannot 'leave'....as through my own administration of being, I decided or volunteered to become here.......as a physical form....unless I am 'trapped' here?
There must be a reasoning to this existence....else there is NO POINT.
Live, procreate,die.......continue en-mass to further a NOTHING....for NO REASON.
If you state that your reasoning for being is children.......then this point of view is not of a considered nature and you are indoctrinated.
Their is NO valid point of reference you can post which will, nor can support your selfishness in further allowing all else to suffer by your personal need to have sex and bring more souled beings here.
No just nor loving GOD would create this place.......as NO being of a self considered nature....and regarding all else.......would create this.
Really....take a step back and CONSIDER THIS
NO god would create this place, who IS a 'loving' god
Everything has to use or/and consume everything else to just 'be'
To live....to have awareness.......to have consciousness
No LOVING GOD would make you consume each other
nor would a loving god....make EVERYTHING upon this earth.......EAT everything else
But in hell....this could be the truth?
I am not attempting to make you 'believe' this post (understand....it makes you my responsibility)
I am trying to get you to consider what you are....and WHERE you are
Look around your world.......look and see the 'true' interactions within the beauty you perceive and consume through the energy your physical form requires.
So can I say that this post is correct for you.......NO
it is your responsibility and your designed fate....it is also YOUR prison and it is structured so that you fail.......multiple times.
So, again.... we have energy / darkness (9)....vibration / wave (6)....frequency / depth (3)
I feel this may prove that we are not a creation of any religion, but are a creation of our own nature.
I would also like to thank Jake.
I present this 'thought' that energy, vibration and frequency were there within the nothing before any material form or any god.
I have posted this before and it caused 'problems'....shall we say. I do not care if you have a faith in the written words of this book (or any book, personally I quite like Terry Pratchett) or not, I only wish to learn....and by research further understanding.
For the record....I do NOT believe in ANY religion 'pushed' by man.
I feel that creation, defined by the sum total of awareness is in an action within and without of this limited physicality that we render, singularly as a drama construction, for our unique interaction, which then in no time will be an asset to the whole being of no thing that we truly are.
Using 3 different versions of the bible ( 1611 king James, 1599 Geneva and Wycliffe 1382 ) in the opening of Genesis I
(Not trying to discredit anything but looking for hidden meanings.)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1611
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - 1599
In the beginning God made of nought heaven and earth. - 1382
This is a statement, an opening not meant as a description, as the description is then given.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. - 1611
And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the waters. - 1599
Forsooth the earth was idle and void, and darknesses were on the face of (the) depth; and the Spirit of the Lord was borne on the waters. - 1382
So from this we can find that the earth was not yet created. That darkness, depth and water already existed, so are not a creation of God. Then the spirit of God was moved or borne on the water.
Interesting....God was a spirit borne on the water!!!!
Water in old Latin is unda which means wave.
Darkness can mean deep and rich, with a melancholy sound.
Depth is defined as the distance from top down or front to back, or the intensity of color or sound.
Thus we could state that before God (was borne?) there was:
No Earth, but there was a wave (sound) of a rich intensity.
This is backed up by looking at John 1
(read word as wave (sound))
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - 1611
In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that]Word was God. - 1599
In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word. - 1382
So the word was first. Then the word was with God. Then the two interacted.
God did not create the word, it existed before God.
Word is sound, a wave form, creation from a vibration.
Then of course it goes on that God created man and man is a creation of light and that the darkness had to separate from the light as it did not understand man!
But remember that the light (man, not the light we think of as stars as these had yet to be made) was created by the 'water' through the now created 'god'
In John1 (1599):
All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made.
In it was life, and that life was the light of men.
And that light shineth in the wilderness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not.
So....ALL is made from IT.......not him or god but IT
Life (creation, God) came from IT
the wave, sound.
Also:
And the evening and the morning were the first day. - 1611
So the evening and the morning were the first day. - 1599
And the eventide and the morrowtide was made, one day. - 1382
Evening and then morning is not a day.
But in a day are 2 tides, evening and morning tides.
Within a wave form such as sound you have a depth....within tides you have a depth.
How deep is time?
So this wave is higher than god?
Theres been studies of the background radiation that exists throughout the Universe, but it cannot be radiation as light had not yet been created? So it must be a wave of sound?
Right we have only discussed two lines of Genesis an a few from John 1 and I can only state that God was created by ….?
Lets look at the next lines. In fact a few lines later, line 6, yes the sixth line in the bible!
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 1611
Again God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters. 1599
And God said, The firmament be made in the midst of (the) waters, and part (the) waters from (the) waters. 1388
By the way....firmament means heaven (or also means a vault, something to stop another from gaining or to stop that which is in the 'safe' from leaving).....so heaven did not exist before this? God had no home on line five of the bible???
So if we consider the 'waters' to be the 'wave form' which existed before God and was the creator of God then we can see that God now is creating a 'heaven' between the wave!
We already know that the 'waters' were not created by God, in fact according to the bible the 'waters' created God.
Sorry I am presuming that you do really wish to wake up?
Two things....know thy self....know where you are?
If not please leave leave this thread and consume the words here no more!
I am not being rude nor confrontational....its just if you have not an open mind ( or conception of a personal mind) then the next line may offend you.
Consider the concept as we have been told of a fallen Angel who wished to be as God....then consider this thread in a new light....or should I say sound?
It would seem which ever way I attempt to describe that which I am seeing....it can and will be taken in the wrong manner!
Post with regard to the bible or god, on any forum and all one gets is either god nuts saying its all the truth or god haters saying its all crap.
This book is the backbone of the largest corporation on this earth, the basis of all the laws on earth and the greatest form of intimidation and death on this earth.
All I want is a discussion with regard to the meaning of the words?
In the above it would seem to state that god was not the first thing, in fact god seems to be the opposite of what we are told and that fits as in this world all is backwards.
Remember firmament also means vault. A place to lock some thing away in.
The light of man could also be read as the limited aspect of the light spectrum which a man can see.
The devil is in the details
So we have energy / darkness (9)....vibration / wave (6)....frequency / depth (3)
Maybe if I try to put it like this:
I am within a place....where to have or continue existence I must utilize another being for my own gain.
I cannot prove otherwise.......even though I have considered every option or opinion which I can become aware of.
My physical form dictates that I consume another being, animal or plant.......even water has its own awareness.
The spoken word here....decides a hierarchy which within is an exchange of energy and belief.
This exchange is seldom equal.......it is a use of another to further the self....yes the same as this post.
To allow the use of another species or in fact the planet without trying to change things is an incorrect nature.
But.......to change things within another....is also wrong as it will use their being and turn it to your own.
How can I change things.......I cannot as this means that I remove responsibility from others, and I become responsible for them and their , now mine, action into a future.
How can one 'be'....by using others?
But if I do not change things for the better....then I become less and fail.......but what is better? And who's better would that encompass?
I am connected to others actions by my non action by becoming complicit to that which they have done and I have then allowed through my knowledge of the act.
This then would be enough.......to limit my being once again. (so a 'return')
I know that you find this very hard and harsh to understand but....IF I DO NOT ACT, THEN OTHERS ACTIONS OF WHICH I HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECOME MINE by my non action and then being complicit to the act.
But.......IF I ACT, THEN I REMOVE RESPONSIBILITY FROM ALL OTHERS AND DETERMINE THEIR FATE BY MY ACTIONS.
But I cannot 'leave'....as through my own administration of being, I decided or volunteered to become here.......as a physical form....unless I am 'trapped' here?
There must be a reasoning to this existence....else there is NO POINT.
Live, procreate,die.......continue en-mass to further a NOTHING....for NO REASON.
If you state that your reasoning for being is children.......then this point of view is not of a considered nature and you are indoctrinated.
Their is NO valid point of reference you can post which will, nor can support your selfishness in further allowing all else to suffer by your personal need to have sex and bring more souled beings here.
No just nor loving GOD would create this place.......as NO being of a self considered nature....and regarding all else.......would create this.
Really....take a step back and CONSIDER THIS
NO god would create this place, who IS a 'loving' god
Everything has to use or/and consume everything else to just 'be'
To live....to have awareness.......to have consciousness
No LOVING GOD would make you consume each other
nor would a loving god....make EVERYTHING upon this earth.......EAT everything else
But in hell....this could be the truth?
I am not attempting to make you 'believe' this post (understand....it makes you my responsibility)
I am trying to get you to consider what you are....and WHERE you are
Look around your world.......look and see the 'true' interactions within the beauty you perceive and consume through the energy your physical form requires.
So can I say that this post is correct for you.......NO
it is your responsibility and your designed fate....it is also YOUR prison and it is structured so that you fail.......multiple times.
So, again.... we have energy / darkness (9)....vibration / wave (6)....frequency / depth (3)
I feel this may prove that we are not a creation of any religion, but are a creation of our own nature.
I would also like to thank Jake.