Israel Wants To Give Mount Zion And The Tomb Of David To The Vatican?

[naste.de.lumina]

http://endoftheamericandream.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Tomb-Of-David-On-Mount-Zion-300x300.jpg

By Michael Snyder, on May 4th, 2014.

What would make Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu want to hand over Mount Zion and the Tomb of David to the Vatican? One member of the Knesset has publicly stated that Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef has informed him that Netanyahu has formally asked for halakhic permission to give the Tomb of David to the Roman Catholic Church. And there have been persistent rumors of secret negotiations between the Israeli government and the Vatican regarding Mount Zion and the Tomb of David. So why would Netanyahu want to do such a thing? In any peace deal with the Palestinians, the Tomb of David and the Mount Zion complex should remain under Israeli control. So what is Netanyahu thinking?

Of course the Israeli government is formally denying that there is a secret deal in the works, but that has not stopped the media in Israel from reporting on these persistent rumors for months. For example, here is a brief excerpt from a recent Arutz Sheva article… (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/179767#.U2b2LygvAw4)

Is there a secret deal between the Vatican and Israel to transfer control over King David’s Tomb to the Catholic church? An investigative report in Makor Rishon cites La Stampa Vatican Insider journalist Andrea Tornielli as saying that the deal has been nearly completed, and that Deputy Foreign Minister Ze’ev Elkin is in charge of the negotiations with the Vatican, but Israel denies any such deal.

And as I mentioned above, a member of the Knesset claims that Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180149#.U2bq5CgvAw7) told him that Netanyahu has requested formal permission to give the Tomb of David to the Vatican…

A Knesset Member said Thursday that Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef told him that the Prime Minister’s bureau contacted him and asked to grant halakhic permission for Israel to hand over the Tomb of David to the Vatican.

In fact, that same article (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180149#.U2bq5CgvAw7) states that the entire Mount Zion complex could end up being transferred into the hands of the Vatican…

The MKs were unanimous in declaring that they intend to do everything within their power to forestall any attempt to hand over the Tomb to the Vatican. There are also reports that not just the Tomb, but the entire Mount Zion compound is up for transfer. The MKs made clear that the zone is under Israeli sovereignty and will remain so.

There have been reports, recently, of a secret negotiation channel between the Vatican and the Israeli government, regarding the Tomb – and especially its second floor, which the Vatican calls the “Room of the Last Supper” – and the Mount Zion compound.

This is pretty startling stuff. For a long time, the Vatican has been positioning itself to take control of more holy sites in Jerusalem. But the genesis for this idea may have actually come from the U.S. State Department. As WND reported last December (http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/u-s-plan-gives-jerusalem-holy-sites-to-vatican/), U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry envisions the holy sites in Jerusalem being under international control…

Secretary of State John Kerry quietly presented a U.S. plan for eastern Jerusalem that calls for an international administrative mandate to control holy sites in the area, according to informed Palestinian and Israeli diplomatic sources.

The exact composition of the international mandate is up for discussion, the sources said, but Kerry’s plan recommended a coalition that includes the Vatican, together with a group of Muslim countries such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

If the Vatican does gain control of more of the holy sites in Jerusalem, it would move even farther in the direction of being regarded as “the top religious authority in the world”. This certainly would not bother Pope Francis. In fact, he seems to be quite eager to do what he can to bring the religions of the world together. For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled “Pope Francis And The Emerging One World Religion (http://thetruthwins.com/archives/pope-francis-and-the-emerging-one-world-religion)“.

These secret negotiations between the Israeli government and the Vatican could also be an indication that peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians are not dead. Netanyahu talks tough, but he has also publicly stated that he is “prepared to make historic peace with our Palestinian neighbors (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.577867)“.

And the U.S. State Department is certainly applying as much pressure as it can in order to get a “peace deal” rammed through. In particular, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry seems to spend an extraordinary amount of time twisting the arm of Israel. Just the other day, he went so far as to threaten that Israel could become “an apartheid state (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/179992#.U2brQSgvAw6)” if the peace talks fail…

In what may be a sign of his frustration over the failure of his peace efforts, The Daily Beast revealed on Sunday that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has said that if Israel doesn’t make peace soon, it could become ‘an apartheid state,’ like the old South Africa.

The comments were made by Kerry during a meeting with influential world leaders in a closed-door meeting Friday. The Daily Beast obtained a recording of the comments.

According to the report, Kerry’s use of the loaded term is already rankling Jewish leaders in America.

After making such a comment, Kerry should have been immediately forced to resign, but of course that did not happen.

Instead, officials from the State Department continue to turn up the heat on Israel. Just consider what some “anonymous U.S. officials” recently told the Times Of Israel (http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-even-if-israel-doesnt-like-it-palestinians-will-get-state/)…

American officials directly involved in the failed Israeli-Palestinian peace process over the last nine months gave a leading Israeli columnist a withering assessment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s handling of the negotiations, indicated that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has completely given up on the prospect of a negotiated solution, and warned Israel that the Palestinians will achieve statehood come what may — either via international organizations or through violence.

Speaking on condition of anonymity to Nahum Barnea, a prominent columnist from Israel’s best-selling daily Yedioth Aharonoth, the officials highlighted Netanyahu’s ongoing settlement construction as the issue “largely to blame” for the failure of Secretary of State John Kerry’s July 2013-April 2014 effort to broker a permanent peace accord.

They made plain that US President Barack Obama had been prepared to release spy-for-Israel Jonathan Pollard to salvage the talks. And they warned that “the world will not keep tolerating the Israeli occupation.”

But for any peace agreement to work, it isn’t just the Palestinian Authority that Israel has to deal with.

Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, and Hamas seems entirely uninterested in peace. Just consider what one of the top leaders of Hamas said on Saturday (http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-wont-recognise-israel-accept-quartet-terms-133913126.html)…

Hamas will never recognise Israel and will not accept the conditions laid out by the Middle East peacemaking Quartet, according to the Islamist movement’s deputy leader.

Speaking late on Saturday, Mussa Abu Marzuq said Hamas, which recently signed a reconciliation deal with the Western-backed Palestinian leadership in the occupied West Bank, would never agree to recognise Israel.

“We will not recognise the Zionist entity,” he said at a press conference in Gaza City.

Could he have been any clearer? The truth is that peace with Israel is absolutely antithetical to everything that Hamas stands for. The following are just a few quotes from the Hamas Charter… (https://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm)

-”Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

-”The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.”

-”The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!”

Sure, we will probably see a U.S.-brokered peace deal within the next year or two.

But it won’t bring lasting peace.

Instead, it will just set the stage for the next major war in the Middle East.


Source: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/israel-wants-to-give-mount-zion-and-the-tomb-of-david-to-the-vatican


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My friends.

When I saw this story came to mind a post I did a few days ago, referring to a prophecy of Parravicini.

Sion (Zion in Spanish) sera (will be) Sion.

Naste.

Pope Francis visit to Israel / 25-26 May 2014 (Amman and Bethlehem too) (http://gpo.gov.il/English/PressRoom/Pages/PopeFrancisvisittoIsrael.aspx)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hN05he4dv2M/UV4Q8oxitAI/AAAAAAAACQo/GCKREIeUAmo/s640/parravicini+papa+3.jpg

My questions and interpretations of this prophecy.

The Real real deal...Parravicini a Real Psychic and his predictions translators. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27958-The-Real-real-deal...Parravicini-a-Real-Psychic-and-his-predictions-translators.&p=828939&viewfull=1#post828939)

[thunder24]

so Zionism is all for Catholicism..... makes since.. and also tears away the zionist need for a greater israeli state... since they are so religious and all...

thus no need for a zionist sympathetic congressmen, senators, preachers, or america... we could now treat them like the rest of the world....

wonderfull!!!!

shephardic jews and palestinians are closer to jewish blood then them "others"...

[Rocky_Shorz]

woo hoo...

King David has a Christian home in the Holy Lands!!!

the Pope had a vision walking the trail to Mt Zion, do you have that prophecy handy naste.de.lumina?

Obama is visiting Thursday, maybe I should drop by to say hi...

I can take over the peace talks from here, looks like Kerry has hit the Wall... :madgrin:

with the importance of the Blood moon Tetrad to Jews, between now and next year will be the biggest event for them in the next 1000+ years...

Divine destiny leads through many coincidences... ;)

[naste.de.lumina]

woo hoo...

King David has a Christian home in the Holy Lands!!!

the Pope had a vision walking the trail to Mt Zion, do you have that prophecy handy naste.de.lumina?

Obama is visiting Thursday, maybe I should drop by to say hi...

I can take over the peace talks from here, looks like Kerry has hit the Wall... :madgrin:

Sorry but I do not understand your question (my English sometimes betrays me).

You asked what is the prophecy? or my opinion about the prophecy?

[Rocky_Shorz]

someone shared a Prophecy here at Avalon of a Pope, before he was, on the trail to Zion having a vision of Prophecies, that is why this location was important, it was like a vortex of wisdom... a communications portal present and past...

I'd love to test it...

if anything like what I found in Sedona, it will be amazing...


edited to add

I'm afraid it was posted in my 33 bloodlines thread, which was put to rest a while back... sorry I can't find it in searches, Thunder do you remember the discussion on that prophecy?

[naste.de.lumina]

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Source: Israel Giving Away Mount Zion To The Vatican And Israel Deputy Minister Warns Netanyahu Over Secret Vatican Deal. (http://joecruzmn.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/israel-giving-away-mount-zion-to-the-vatican-and-israel-deputy-minister-warns-netanyahu-over-secret-vatican-deal/)

[Rocky_Shorz]

it is too bad he gutted his original post in that thread before retiring...

now that you started this one, lets keep it all here...


Pope Francis visit to Israel / 25-26 May 2014 (Amman and Bethlehem too) (http://gpo.gov.il/English/PressRoom/Pages/PopeFrancisvisittoIsrael.aspx)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hN05he4dv2M/UV4Q8oxitAI/AAAAAAAACQo/GCKREIeUAmo/s640/parravicini+papa+3.jpg


The text of the prophecy of Parravicini is enigmatic .

Note:
Bethlehem in Spanish is 'Belém'.
Light in Spanish is 'Luz'

In the midst of what looks like the image of a dead man and lying , with the world about him , the image of a knife and a safe charge for a hand going your direction , giving the idea of assassination attempts appear , including poisoning .

The text says : " Roma " as a title below and " Does the martyr and the wonderful city of ... " to appear then the letter " B " followed by the letter "e " beginning a word that is formed 'L' to " Light (Luz)" .

Appear in the drawing are two snakes , one on the world with the name " Israel " and the phrase " Israel returns " below on de text. On the right corner , which seems to be a man - serpent dressed in a priestly clothes (drawing on top of your head ) that has written inside " Sion will be Sion " giving idea to a triple " s " as a veiled reference to the 666 .

' BE ' could be referring to Bergoglio or Bethlehem, city of birth of the child of Light (Luz), Jesus.

Starting the letter ' B ' to the end of the drawing , also we can also interpret the word 'Belem' with M as the final drawing.

The ' L' is the intersection of Belem and Luz.

Just above the ' dead man ' head has a design that resembles the letter 'P' . Pope?

The drawing of the hand holding the snake appears to be a glove.

The pope could be injured and then poisoned by doctors?

Intriguing. We'll know soon.

Naste.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well with the way the Apartheid is going, the dead man in the picture is Palestine, not the pope...

[naste.de.lumina]

Below the hand (glove) holding the snake, it seems that it is written 'ASA', with '40 'number below.

There was a an ancient king named 'Asa', the third of the people (kingdom) of 'Juda' and lived in wars with Israel, Syria and Ethiopia. He died at age 41 due to a disease in his feet.

http://biblehub.com/1_kings/22-41.htm

ASA with 40 years (dying and sick) Israel returns (israel regresa)?

[thunder24]

your not talking about the one talking about "Luther" are you?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25102-For-an-idea-on-the-big-picture&p=263729#post263729

There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.


i dont think this is the one.... im not sure if i remember

[naste.de.lumina]

your not talking about the one talking about "Luther" are you?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25102-For-an-idea-on-the-big-picture&p=263729#post263729

There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.


i dont think this is the one.... im not sure if i remember

The Amazing Prophecies of Benjamín Parravicini (http://wemustknow.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/the-benjamin-solari-parravicinis-prophetic-message/)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27958-The-Real-real-deal...Parravicini-a-Real-Psychic-and-his-predictions-translators.

[thunder24]

COMING SOON TO A SEAT IN THE LAST SUPPER ROOM


The December 1993 covenant between Israel and the Vatican has recently been confirmed. The Roman church has long desired a foothold in Jerusalem, and now they have it in a big and prophetic way. Israel has given the Pope an official seat in the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The deal was sealed on January 29, 2013 before the current Pope resigned, and is expected to be ratified in June. This will give the new pope a special authority over the second floor of the building. There are complaints that this was done in secret, without any public debate.


“Exclusive: A Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb” Arutz Sheva Feb. 1, 2013 www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12814#.USLUDB119M8

http://www.raptureready.com/soap/nuara4.html

very interesting

[naste.de.lumina]

COMING SOON TO A SEAT IN THE LAST SUPPER ROOM


The December 1993 covenant between Israel and the Vatican has recently been confirmed. The Roman church has long desired a foothold in Jerusalem, and now they have it in a big and prophetic way. Israel has given the Pope an official seat in the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The deal was sealed on January 29, 2013 before the current Pope resigned, and is expected to be ratified in June. This will give the new pope a special authority over the second floor of the building. There are complaints that this was done in secret, without any public debate.


“Exclusive: A Seat for the Pope at King David's Tomb” Arutz Sheva Feb. 1, 2013 www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12814#.USLUDB119M8

http://www.raptureready.com/soap/nuara4.html

very interesting

It is a macabre blessing (the same psychopathic corruption in various dimensions (dead or alive)).

I think we are rapidly approaching toward a tipping point.

The Universe is watching us.

Good luck to all.

Naste.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Below the hand (glove) holding the snake, it seems that it is written 'ASA', with '40 'number below.

There was a an ancient king named 'Asa', the third of the people (kingdom) of 'Juda' and lived in wars with Israel, Syria and Ethiopia. He died at age 41 due to a disease in his feet.

http://biblehub.com/1_kings/22-41.htm

ASA with 40 years (dying and sick) Israel returns (israel regresa)?

when I concentrated on ASA I heard Arab Soviets Asia

That's the one Thunder... brb

this throne on Zion is for the Lutherans, not the Catholics, what Luther brought forward to break off from the Catholics, he held onto many truths that the Catholics refused to teach...

like each of us are connected to God, we don't need layers of bureaucracy for the message to get lost in the grapevine...

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

IF this is true, it really reminds me of the Bible bit about "when you see the abomination that brings desolation standing in the Holy Place, flee to the hills -- do not even return to your house for your coat, but FLEE"

i.e. Gandalf "FLY, YOU FOOLS!"

and the Abomination?

The obelisk.

http://www.masters-table.org/pagan/obelisk_vatican.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Trinity_Site_Obelisk_National_Historic_Landmark.jpg/600px-Trinity_Site_Obelisk_National_Historic_Landmark.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/WashingtonDC_Obelisk.jpg/500px-WashingtonDC_Obelisk.jpg




"Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God."

DeuteronomyDeuteronomy12:2-3
"Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. "

LeviticusLeviticus18:3-4
"After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God."

LeviticusLeviticus18:30
"Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God."

2Corinthians2Corinthians6:17
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"

Jeremiah 10:



the Masons pretty much built Walla Walla so of course Whitman Mission has one too:

http://www.nps.gov/whmi/historyculture/images/shaft016_415x.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

the red comments are mine


Now , taking it on a different tack, here are little known prophecies written in 1935:




The Son of the Beast, brought forth (manufactured) in one year.

Zionists manufactured plans... also a good approximation of 1st to last blood moon on Jewish Holidays

Israel who fights and suffers, no less than who attacks you and who doesn't know how to share your pain. You are brothers, someone prods you to fight while remaining hidden. Here the world destiny is decided. And in the palace where nations hug, the fugitive from the lair is very much alive. (Kurt Waldheim, former UN president was discovered to be a former active Nazi). From the palace, hate towards Israel. And this will be a sign of ruin.

Jews and Muslims have always been friends in the holy lands... the hidden hand forcing them to fight...

From the South against Luther* and the heirs of Nuremberg, those who were missing, those who were sitting on the judges' seats. The one who was the slave colony of salt and copper imposes her people's will.

Only today ends Nuremberg. But beware the face which smiles and comes from the South, more south than all of them. His heart was always north, he came back to take it back with his black brothers. There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.

Now this should raise a brow, they are speaking of Americans, the Luthers are looking for someone that is always smiling, the furthest south you can go on this coast, is San Diego, but will always be a Minnesotan, as for Black brothers, must be a coincidence that Obama is in office, but I do have a lot of Black Irish brothers...

the woman is Israel accepting Christian beliefs along with Muslims...

It's what the big guy wants...

take it up with him... ;)

Prophecies, Angelo Roncalli, 1935.

* America; the sons of Luther are the Americans in Roncalli's speech, from the Protestants who came to America to escape religious persecutions.

Excerpts from "Les prophéties du pape Jean XXIII," Pier Carpi, Ed "Jai Lu." Translation: bibi.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Just remembered, it's the Christian Pentecost right now, correct? the holy 50 days.

anything bad that happens due to TPTB during the Pentecost is very bad karma for earth.

IMO.

[naste.de.lumina]

when I concentrated on ASA I heard Arab Soviets Asia



I was watching other images by Mr. Parravicinis psychographic and I noticed that in several of them was written 'ASA' and one 'number'. I think it might be signing and year.!?

This is another of his predictions.

http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f19.jpg


“The atom will go so far as to tyrannize the world, the world will be atomized and will go blind. It will fall storms caused by the incursions of the man in the atmosphere, new diseases, sex changes, collective madness, general absurdity. The world will go dark”. (year 1934)

Looks like he predicted climate geoengineering.

ASA 34?

[Rocky_Shorz]

nuclear weapons has led to tyranny, those in power with the ability to destroy the world, command it. That's why Iran wants to get in the sandbox with the other kids...

of course we are talking about Koch, the world is already blind, now on top of chem trails, we have the Fukushima release, invisible, but there... if we can't see it, we are blind to it.

[naste.de.lumina]

nuclear weapons has led to tyranny, those in power with the ability to destroy the world, command it. That's why Iran wants to get in the sandbox with the other kids...

of course we are talking about Koch, the world is already blind, now on top of chem trails, we have the Fukushima release, invisible, but there... if we can't see it, we are blind to it.


http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f35.jpg


“The beginning of the end will be soon arrived! The man will annihilate his own being, the biology will exclaim that it has discovered how to create life without the necessity of the masculine being, but with the use of glycerin took out of the cells. He will start to make beings without future, but with lives of unknown ways. Will be arrived, in that time, the atomic explosions, and they will cause the destruction of every being , the radiation will kill, and will cause to birth monsters from every mother, whether animal or vegetable, the mineral will disintegrate. Since the 66 the man will be born with his bones crystallized because of the presence of the strontium, and the strontium will cause in his life his disaster, will annihilate his brain, will change his genetic sperm, will kill his red corpuscle, will increase the cancerology up to the extreme level that will be a general cancer. The nucleonic power will dominate, and the yellows with the Russians will question power profits in that sense. The 666 will be already arrived with its hands full of nuclear power of mysterious and paralyzing beams. With new microbes from electronic centrifugal in artificial comets with the…” (year 1936)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

hey Rocky Shorz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_%28legal_instrument%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_%28Palestine%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Hand_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis

http://www.rohama.org/en/content/87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam


Oh interesting, so the people who killed Ferdinand and started the first Global CrapShoot were ALSO called "Black Hand".


I think there is something to the "Hidden Hand" CT, lol.


Something called Britain?

[naste.de.lumina]

Something called Britain?

Looks like some big fish owes much to the Vatican.

[Rocky_Shorz]

your not talking about the one talking about "Luther" are you?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25102-For-an-idea-on-the-big-picture&p=263729#post263729

There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.


i dont think this is the one.... im not sure if i remember

The Amazing Prophecies of Benjamín Parravicini (http://wemustknow.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/the-benjamin-solari-parravicinis-prophetic-message/)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27958-The-Real-real-deal...Parravicini-a-Real-Psychic-and-his-predictions-translators.

"“Power duel between Yankees and Russians. Duel for space and terrain conquest. Although it doesn’t seem, America will ascend the throne”. (year 1941)"
http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f20p.jpg
"“The Church will mistake its own steps and its own leaders will distort it.” (no date)"
http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f25p.jpg
“The Heart of the world will fall down, year 40. It will fall down and will be German the 44.”
http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f31p.jpg
"“Races which hate each other will join together. The earth will go in war. India, China, Japan, Russia. Africa will give the world an example. America will be witness, help, palliative and light, North America will be despised, even so, the world in the moment of the afflictions will cry out for it – but it had suffered and will be no longer.” (year 1937)"
http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f34p.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

hey Rocky Shorz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_%28legal_instrument%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_%28Palestine%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Hand_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis

http://www.rohama.org/en/content/87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izz_ad-Din_al-Qassam


Oh interesting, so the people who killed Ferdinand and started the first Global CrapShoot were ALSO called "Black Hand".


I think there is something to the "Hidden Hand" CT, lol.


Something called Britain?

they painted the hidden hand over my head in Chemtrails a few years ago...

I guess I'm invited, to where, not a clue...

[Roisin]

On Feb. 20th of this year, I had the following inner eye vision that I posted in the members predictions for 2014 thread in this forum. Below is the link to that comment and below that is the actual post. Regardless that my inner eye vision gave some indication to me that the Vatican was, at the end of the day, going to end up with that real estate, articles in the press at that time were indicating that Israel would not be giving anything up.... but this does not appear to be the case now.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=799869&viewfull=1#post799869

Below is my post that's on that link:

This morning I had an inner eye vision of what looked like a medieval castle-like structure and in another one, a large ancient looking church-like building but my impression was that that building was part of the "castle". Well, this was a head scratcher and wondered why I would be having a vision of a castle? But then later in the day I had another inner eye vision of seeing the pope standing at a distance with other clergy around him in the candle-lit halls of the Vatican. So at that point I figured that the Vatican had some kind of connection to that castle and the other building that was part of it.
[Additional information: That above comment where I said that the pope and clergy were seen in candle-lit halls of the Vatican, I forgot to mention that one of the prominent candles in the foreground of that scene was a shiny gold menorah brightly lit up. I didn't think it was important until I found out what these visions were about.]

So I googled "the Vatican" in Google News and found out that today they started final negotiations with Israel to take over Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. Then I googled Mount Zion to look at some of the buildings in Google Images at that compound and found that they were the same ones I saw earlier today in a couple of inner eye visions during morning meditation.

As it is right now, Israel does not want to hand over Mount Zion to the Vatican and even made an announcement to the press that they were keeping it.

But does my having these visions indicate that Israel will end up turning over that compound to the Vatican anyway? Or did I have those visions because the timing of this dispute concerning Mount Zion and the Vatican with Israel have some kind of historical significance of some sort. Will do some research on this and will have to wait and see what happens.


Here's that article...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...7#.UwbBQs6xSSo

"Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's Office (PMO) released a statement Thursday affirming that Israel will not, despite earlier reports, give away Mount Zion -- including King David's tomb -- to the Vatican.

"All publications claiming that Israel was considering giving away all or part of Mount Zion to the Catholic Church are not true and are fundamental lies," the PMO stated. "The Israeli government does not have and has never had any intention of doing so."

[Rocky_Shorz]

nuclear weapons has led to tyranny, those in power with the ability to destroy the world, command it. That's why Iran wants to get in the sandbox with the other kids...

of course we are talking about Koch, the world is already blind, now on top of chem trails, we have the Fukushima release, invisible, but there... if we can't see it, we are blind to it.


http://www.edicolaweb.net/nonsoloufo/pav_f35.jpg


“ The nucleonic power will dominate, and the yellows with the Russians will question power profits in that sense. The 666 will be already arrived with its hands full of nuclear power of mysterious and paralyzing beams. With new microbes from electronic centrifugal in artificial comets with the…” (year 1936)

strange he wrote yellows, but when I asked about ASA it was Asians...

his perception vs mine...

CERN - Bosun particle... artificial comets?

can I get a replay of the CERN accelerator experiment that caused Sink holes the size of perfectly round comets on the other side of the world? mainly south America, were there any in Argentina?

[Rocky_Shorz]

On Feb. 20th of this year, I had the following inner eye vision that I posted in the members predictions for 2014 thread in this forum. Below is the link to that comment and below that is the actual post. Regardless that my inner eye vision gave some indication to me that the Vatican was, at the end of the day, going to end up with that real estate, articles in the press at that time were indicating that Israel would not be giving anything up.... but this does not appear to be the case now.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=799869&viewfull=1#post799869

Below is my post that's on that link:

This morning I had an inner eye vision of what looked like a medieval castle-like structure and in another one, a large ancient looking church-like building but my impression was that that building was part of the "castle". Well, this was a head scratcher and wondered why I would be having a vision of a castle? But then later in the day I had another inner eye vision of seeing the pope standing at a distance with other clergy around him in the candle-lit halls of the Vatican. So at that point I figured that the Vatican had some kind of connection to that castle and the other building that was part of it.
[Additional information: That above comment where I said that the pope and clergy were seen in candle-lit halls of the Vatican, I forgot to mention that one of the prominent candles in the foreground of that scene was a shiny gold menorah brightly lit up. I didn't think it was important until I found out what these visions were about.]

So I googled "the Vatican" in Google News and found out that today they started final negotiations with Israel to take over Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. Then I googled Mount Zion to look at some of the buildings in Google Images at that compound and found that they were the same ones I saw earlier today in a couple of inner eye visions during morning meditation.

As it is right now, Israel does not want to hand over Mount Zion to the Vatican and even made an announcement to the press that they were keeping it.

But does my having these visions indicate that Israel will end up turning over that compound to the Vatican anyway? Or did I have those visions because the timing of this dispute concerning Mount Zion and the Vatican with Israel have some kind of historical significance of some sort. Will do some research on this and will have to wait and see what happens.


Here's that article...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...7#.UwbBQs6xSSo

"Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's Office (PMO) released a statement Thursday affirming that Israel will not, despite earlier reports, give away Mount Zion -- including King David's tomb -- to the Vatican.

"All publications claiming that Israel was considering giving away all or part of Mount Zion to the Catholic Church are not true and are fundamental lies," the PMO stated. "The Israeli government does not have and has never had any intention of doing so."

an hour after I posted the Catholic church needs to change now, the Pope resigned, an hour later lightning struck the Vatican to confirm source of my message...

I think they are watching me far more than I realize...

[naste.de.lumina]

On Feb. 20th of this year, I had the following inner eye vision that I posted in the members predictions for 2014 thread in this forum. Below is the link to that comment and below that is the actual post. Regardless that my inner eye vision gave some indication to me that the Vatican was, at the end of the day, going to end up with that real estate, articles in the press at that time were indicating that Israel would not be giving anything up.... but this does not appear to be the case now.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=799869&viewfull=1#post799869

Below is my post that's on that link:

This morning I had an inner eye vision of what looked like a medieval castle-like structure and in another one, a large ancient looking church-like building but my impression was that that building was part of the "castle". Well, this was a head scratcher and wondered why I would be having a vision of a castle? But then later in the day I had another inner eye vision of seeing the pope standing at a distance with other clergy around him in the candle-lit halls of the Vatican. So at that point I figured that the Vatican had some kind of connection to that castle and the other building that was part of it.
[Additional information: That above comment where I said that the pope and clergy were seen in candle-lit halls of the Vatican, I forgot to mention that one of the prominent candles in the foreground of that scene was a shiny gold menorah brightly lit up. I didn't think it was important until I found out what these visions were about.]

So I googled "the Vatican" in Google News and found out that today they started final negotiations with Israel to take over Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. Then I googled Mount Zion to look at some of the buildings in Google Images at that compound and found that they were the same ones I saw earlier today in a couple of inner eye visions during morning meditation.

As it is right now, Israel does not want to hand over Mount Zion to the Vatican and even made an announcement to the press that they were keeping it.

But does my having these visions indicate that Israel will end up turning over that compound to the Vatican anyway? Or did I have those visions because the timing of this dispute concerning Mount Zion and the Vatican with Israel have some kind of historical significance of some sort. Will do some research on this and will have to wait and see what happens.


Here's that article...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...7#.UwbBQs6xSSo

"Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's Office (PMO) released a statement Thursday affirming that Israel will not, despite earlier reports, give away Mount Zion -- including King David's tomb -- to the Vatican.

"All publications claiming that Israel was considering giving away all or part of Mount Zion to the Catholic Church are not true and are fundamental lies," the PMO stated. "The Israeli government does not have and has never had any intention of doing so."

Very cool your perception.

It seems that your prediction will be fulfilled.

[naste.de.lumina]

well with the way the Apartheid is going, the dead man in the picture is Palestine, not the pope...

Yes, the dead man may be a representation of the Palestinian people.

[Rocky_Shorz]

for those who are new freaking out from what I am writing, it's ok, I was given the Key of David that answers the riddle of the beast

Christians must listen to the one with understanding...

I really hope this is true, a move by Israel to share even a small portion of the holy lands with Christians would be a great start in accepting us as equals.

giving the same concideration to Muslims will bring peace to the nation.

isn't that the goal of all religions, to stand for peaceful solutions and against war...

How can any religious nation not stand for peace?

going to war for God, is using his name in vain...

[Sierra]

Hmmmmm... I can't inagine Israel (Let's be honest, it is the Zionists that are in negotiation, not the Israelis.) giving up that kind of territory because a pope wants it. Perhaps they wish to trade for the only place the Jews are allowed to sacrifice to their G*d, currently known as the Dome of the Rock (and currently one of the three holiest places in the Islam religion), also the place where some consider the abomination of desolation will take place.

Perhaps an agreement for a friend of the Vatican to HAARP the dome to complete destruction...

What else might be considered an equal value for trade?

Sierra

[naste.de.lumina]

CERN - Bosun particle... artificial comets?

can I get a replay of the CERN accelerator experiment that caused Sink holes the size of perfectly round comets on the other side of the world? mainly south America, were there any in Argentina?

The Pope Francis and Mr. Benjamín Parravicini are both Argentines.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

On Feb. 20th of this year, I had the following inner eye vision that I posted in the members predictions for 2014 thread in this forum. Below is the link to that comment and below that is the actual post. Regardless that my inner eye vision gave some indication to me that the Vatican was, at the end of the day, going to end up with that real estate, articles in the press at that time were indicating that Israel would not be giving anything up.... but this does not appear to be the case now.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=799869&viewfull=1#post799869

Below is my post that's on that link:

This morning I had an inner eye vision of what looked like a medieval castle-like structure and in another one, a large ancient looking church-like building but my impression was that that building was part of the "castle". Well, this was a head scratcher and wondered why I would be having a vision of a castle? But then later in the day I had another inner eye vision of seeing the pope standing at a distance with other clergy around him in the candle-lit halls of the Vatican. So at that point I figured that the Vatican had some kind of connection to that castle and the other building that was part of it.
[Additional information: That above comment where I said that the pope and clergy were seen in candle-lit halls of the Vatican, I forgot to mention that one of the prominent candles in the foreground of that scene was a shiny gold menorah brightly lit up. I didn't think it was important until I found out what these visions were about.]

So I googled "the Vatican" in Google News and found out that today they started final negotiations with Israel to take over Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. Then I googled Mount Zion to look at some of the buildings in Google Images at that compound and found that they were the same ones I saw earlier today in a couple of inner eye visions during morning meditation.

As it is right now, Israel does not want to hand over Mount Zion to the Vatican and even made an announcement to the press that they were keeping it.

But does my having these visions indicate that Israel will end up turning over that compound to the Vatican anyway? Or did I have those visions because the timing of this dispute concerning Mount Zion and the Vatican with Israel have some kind of historical significance of some sort. Will do some research on this and will have to wait and see what happens.


Here's that article...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...7#.UwbBQs6xSSo

"Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's Office (PMO) released a statement Thursday affirming that Israel will not, despite earlier reports, give away Mount Zion -- including King David's tomb -- to the Vatican.

"All publications claiming that Israel was considering giving away all or part of Mount Zion to the Catholic Church are not true and are fundamental lies," the PMO stated. "The Israeli government does not have and has never had any intention of doing so."

Very cool your perception.

It seems that your prediction will be fulfilled.




i checked the "About"/backdoor to my old blog, it had lots of imagery on it,
and guess what, it has PERSISTENT images of the Temple Mount, the Vatican Square, masonic symbols, Obelisks.

i think maybe this is NOT a GOOD, as Borat might say.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Hmmmmm... I can't inagine Israel (Let's be honest, it is the Zionists that are in negotiation, not the Israelis.) giving up that kind of territory because a pope wants it. Perhaps they wish to trade for the only place the Jews are allowed to sacrifice to their G*d, currently known as the Dome of the Rock (and currently one of the three holiest places in the Islam religion), also the place where some consider the abomination of desolation will take place.

Perhaps an agreement for a friend of the Vatican to HAARP the dome to complete destruction...

What else might be considered an equal value for trade?

Sierra

if the Ark of the Covenant still exists, I think they would all go for that.
just like the movie.

couple years ago, could NOT stop thinking about that thing.

Crazy? certainly.

But what did I feel?
That it was going to be moved soon.



to the enemies of Israel, the Defiled Ark was an abomination that brings desolation too. Didn't it give the whole Philistine city cancer in a day?

it produces some kind of radiation.
and didn't something once happen with Moses when the Jews tried to bring incense into the tabernacle, BOOM -- started falling over dead almost as fast as Moses could run.

He had to run the serpent on the pole out into the middle of the crowd to stop them from dying in front of the tabernacle.

because they defiled it "with strange fire".

[naste.de.lumina]

Hmmmmm... I can't inagine Israel (Let's be honest, it is the Zionists that are in negotiation, not the Israelis.) giving up that kind of territory because a pope wants it. Perhaps they wish to trade for the only place the Jews are allowed to sacrifice to their G*d, currently known as the Dome of the Rock (and currently one of the three holiest places in the Islam religion), also the place where some consider the abomination of desolation will take place.

Perhaps an agreement for a friend of the Vatican to HAARP the dome to complete destruction...

What else might be considered an equal value for trade?

Sierra

if the Ark of the Covenant still exists, I think they would all go for that.
just like the movie.

couple years ago, could NOT stop thinking about that thing.

Crazy? certainly.

But what did I feel?
That it was going to be moved soon.



to the enemies of Israel, the Defiled Ark was an abomination that brings desolation too. Didn't it give the whole Philistine city cancer in a day?

it produces some kind of radiation.
and didn't something once happen with Moses when the Jews tried to bring incense into the tabernacle, BOOM -- started falling over dead almost as fast as Moses could run.

He had to run the serpent on the pole out into the middle of the crowd to stop them from dying in front of the tabernacle.

because they defiled it "with strange fire".



The December 1993 covenant between Israel and the Vatican has recently been confirmed. The Roman church has long desired a foothold in Jerusalem, and now they have it in a big and prophetic way. Israel has given the Pope an official seat in the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The deal was sealed on January 29, 2013 before the current Pope resigned, and is expected to be ratified in June. This will give the new pope a special authority over the second floor of the building. There are complaints that this was done in secret, without any public debate.



Whatever it is, it seems that the 'purpose of desire' is on the second floor.

The story (I wonder what they do not say) of this temple:
On Top Of Mount Zion, All Coveted By Rome (http://www.rense.com/general69/topmz.htm)

[ghostrider]

It has been said , the end times will start to be fulfilled when a pope no longer resides in Rome ( The Henoch Prophecies ) ... If Israel gives Mt. Zion to the Vatican , would it be too far out to say the pope would reside in the Mt. Zion Area instead of Rome ??? you know , staying in the holy land waiting for the Messiah to return ??? Watch Rome and America build some sort of statue of peace with a symbol on it made of something of Roman and an eagle on it ... the opening of the seals , brings a promise of peace ... then sudden destruction comes ... I'm thinking Nuclear , fire from the sky , hailstones of fire the size of cars , right out of the book of Revelations ... then one third of every person loses his life , one third of trees burnt up , one third of the ocean life dies , sounds like nuclear bombs to me ...

[Roisin]

an hour after I posted the Catholic church needs to change now, the Pope resigned, an hour later lightning struck the Vatican to confirm source of my message...

I think they are watching me far more than I realize...

We indeed are living in interesting times now... I've had my own share of super-sensible information that's been, oddly enough, connected with the new pope and the Vatican that started a week before the new pope was elected. None of that happened before during Pope John Paul's reign nor Benedict's reign either but not so in this current one.
Not sure what to make of it but am glad to hear that you are experiencing the same kind of thing too. It's very strange and a little unsettling too.

[Rocky_Shorz]

an hour after I posted the Catholic church needs to change now, the Pope resigned, an hour later lightning struck the Vatican to confirm source of my message...

I think they are watching me far more than I realize...

We indeed are living in interesting times now... I've had my own share of super-sensible information that's been, oddly enough, connected with the new pope and the Vatican that started a week before the new pope was elected. None of that happened before during Pope John Paul's reign nor Benedict's reign either but not so in this current one.
Not sure what to make of it but am glad to hear that you are experiencing the same kind of thing too. It's very strange and a little unsettling too.

I used to cross over to Nirvana in my dreams to talk with kids that had been kidnapped for answers, one time, I sat and talked with Pope John Paul about what is going on and how to bring the world's religions together. He smiled and Buddha, the Dali Lama and Mohammad appeared beside us, he said just tell them all we are here... The Trinity is the truth, though the Catholic church doesn't allow the truth of the trinity be part of their teachings... The secret societies hold the answer not shared with the world, the Father, son and Holy Spirit(God's Wife) aren't one in the same.

Lucifer is Light Bringer, God's Wife, Tara, Mary and so many more...

when I asked her who she was she said "I am" then paused and I chuckled... I wasn't talking to a burning bush, it was through dreams, a picture paints 1000 words...

¤=[Post Update]=¤


It has been said , the end times will start to be fulfilled when a pope no longer resides in Rome ( The Henoch Prophecies ) ... If Israel gives Mt. Zion to the Vatican , would it be too far out to say the pope would reside in the Mt. Zion Area instead of Rome ??? you know , staying in the holy land waiting for the Messiah to return ??? Watch Rome and America build some sort of statue of peace with a symbol on it made of something of Roman and an eagle on it ... the opening of the seals , brings a promise of peace ... then sudden destruction comes ... I'm thinking Nuclear , fire from the sky , hailstones of fire the size of cars , right out of the book of Revelations ... then one third of every person loses his life , one third of trees burnt up , one third of the ocean life dies , sounds like nuclear bombs to me ...

Flight 370...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hmmmmm... I can't inagine Israel (Let's be honest, it is the Zionists that are in negotiation, not the Israelis.) giving up that kind of territory because a pope wants it. Perhaps they wish to trade for the only place the Jews are allowed to sacrifice to their G*d, currently known as the Dome of the Rock (and currently one of the three holiest places in the Islam religion), also the place where some consider the abomination of desolation will take place.

Perhaps an agreement for a friend of the Vatican to HAARP the dome to complete destruction...

What else might be considered an equal value for trade?

Sierra

if the Ark of the Covenant still exists, I think they would all go for that.
just like the movie.

couple years ago, could NOT stop thinking about that thing.

Crazy? certainly.

But what did I feel?
That it was going to be moved soon.



to the enemies of Israel, the Defiled Ark was an abomination that brings desolation too. Didn't it give the whole Philistine city cancer in a day?

it produces some kind of radiation.
and didn't something once happen with Moses when the Jews tried to bring incense into the tabernacle, BOOM -- started falling over dead almost as fast as Moses could run.

He had to run the serpent on the pole out into the middle of the crowd to stop them from dying in front of the tabernacle.

because they defiled it "with strange fire".



The December 1993 covenant between Israel and the Vatican has recently been confirmed. The Roman church has long desired a foothold in Jerusalem, and now they have it in a big and prophetic way. Israel has given the Pope an official seat in the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The deal was sealed on January 29, 2013 before the current Pope resigned, and is expected to be ratified in June. This will give the new pope a special authority over the second floor of the building. There are complaints that this was done in secret, without any public debate.



Whatever it is, it seems that the 'purpose of desire' is on the second floor.

The story (I wonder what they do not say) of this temple:
On Top Of Mount Zion, All Coveted By Rome (http://www.rense.com/general69/topmz.htm)

the second floor is where Jesus had his final supper...

in all the paintings, I've never seen a window with a view, I guess I just thought everything was a single story hut in the day, a multi story gathering place is for the 1%rs... ;)

[amor]

I once thought, "Why don't the muslims and the jews do the christian thing to each other?" I realized what I had said was at the same time silly and profound. If the Jews, instead of building expensive wars and defenses, used the money to build a literal paradise of plenty for the palestinians, all would be forgotten and peace would prevail.

Zacharia Sitchin said in one of his books that the Annunaki built a control center, under Jerusalem, for their spaceships called Shems. The bible also mentions a mountain that will open. I believe there will be a shem inside the mountain. Hopefully it will contain a ship and not a nuclear device. Why does the Vatican want Jerusalem when they are making human sacrafices to Satan under the Pope's Palace, according to reports on the internet? The abomination of desolation? I believe the abomination of desolation is what is being planned for earth by the Alien controlled elite; wherever one looks at that time, there will be no life left, the final sacrafice to Satan. It is possible the Alien rulers inside the planet have done this playbook many times in the past to rid themselves of human or other cockroaches on the outer surface of the planet before the cockroaches took it into their heads to pay them a final visit. Amor

[Rocky_Shorz]

well, the Blue Dude said he was preparing the way in Jerusalem...

he said something about fulfilling prophecy, he's alien, I thought a Buddhist or Hindu with the way he levitates...

he believes, is it from what we taught him, or is it a billion year old prophecy rewritten through human civilizations since the beginning and he's been waiting for right now...

I don't know his age, but he was negotiating with both sides of this war, saying it will not go beyond bullets...

I pity any fool that thinks he can nuke the holy lands... and I'm talking all of them, across Kurdistan to Sumeria, blessed and protected...

In a one state solution, with Christians being considered equal and invited to the holy lands, it will counter the additional population of Gaza, no Christian would allow anyone into power who's campaign says I'm coming to kill you, they will become dinosaurs, lost forgotten and turned to dust...

I'm sorry Palestine, speaking for Christians, we won't vote a wolf in sheep's clothing to be our leader...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I once thought, "Why don't the muslims and the jews do the christian thing to each other?" I realized what I had said was at the same time silly and profound. If the Jews, instead of building expensive wars and defenses, used the money to build a literal paradise of plenty for the palestinians, all would be forgotten and peace would prevail.

Zacharia Sitchin said in one of his books that the Annunaki built a control center, under Jerusalem, for their spaceships called Shems. The bible also mentions a mountain that will open. I believe there will be a shem inside the mountain. Hopefully it will contain a ship and not a nuclear device. Why does the Vatican want Jerusalem when they are making human sacrafices to Satan under the Pope's Palace, according to reports on the internet? The abomination of desolation? I believe the abomination of desolation is what is being planned for earth by the Alien controlled elite; wherever one looks at that time, there will be no life left, the final sacrafice to Satan. It is possible the Alien rulers inside the planet have done this playbook many times in the past to rid themselves of human or other cockroaches on the outer surface of the planet before the cockroaches took it into their heads to pay them a final visit. Amor

America gives $4-5000 a month for every Jew in Israel...

Israel would be crushed if American Christians moved Occupy Wall Street #OWS to the doorsteps of #AIPAC and said no more funding...

unless you'll give us the location of the Last Supper of the Messiah you killed...

oh wait, he was killed by the Romans, so why are they the head of the Christian Church? :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

took almost 5 minutes to post, I called in OPS Israel for a shield...

friggen 3rd world hackers need an occasional smackdown...

sorry Mods, but I'm here to share, the truths will be heard...

[Rocky_Shorz]

On #Israel’s 66th Independence Day, an urgent question for #liberal #Jews http://htz.li/1o305AD #Israel66

there are 66 books in the bible, several prophesies mention 66 we've shared in this thread...

one more book makes 67...

this is the final blood moon tetrad for the next 1000+ years

this is the moment that brings 1000 years of peace

all we need is to take out the our slavemasters...

bend em over and shove a broomstick up where the sun doesn't shine, and they'll be getting off easy...


heheh did I realy just say that?


many messages pass through to my fingertips without a thought, that's one... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

didn't mean for everyone to go quiet, but again, we are at an incredibly important time in history and we are here for a reason.

did I ever mention when I received my first message from God, I thought it was just a dream, and said if you really know what tomorrow will bring, what are the lotto numbers for tomorrow...

he laughed, the walls of the great hall shook...

he gave me two numbers, it was the same as the key of David, he made the numbers happen the next day... so I delivered his message... 3 days before Christmas, on my birthday...

25726

as I was leaving with the Holy Ghost, I said so all I do is deliver this message and wham bamm thank ya ma'am, they'll know this message is from God?

she smiled, yes David, just like that...

the message was, there is a type-o in Revelations...

Sardis, was meant to be Saudis

one of the messages to the 7 churches, was written hundreds of years before the Muslim religion began...

the church of Saudis, are the Muslims

there is only one God we look up to]

so I shared the message, on my birthday...

3 days later, it was Christmas with my family, baked ham celebrating we are the only religion with permission to eat pork making us special...

after the day, kicking back in my recliner with a glass of wine I wondered if anything had changed in the world, turned on the TV... Breaking news!!!

38,000 died in Bam Iran...

I checked time, 3 days to the minute from when I shared the message...

I freaked out along with everyone on that forum... "Wham Bamm thank ya ma'am"

the forum was attacked by the Catholic church, we were a missing children forum... they didn't care, and wanted all evidence to disappear... backup up tapes in the drives, were erased, all the backgrounds and histories we worked on, was gone...

fricken child rapists, were mad we were exposing them?

nope they were mad someone is talking to God without them...

they're cool, after 3 messages over a million killed from the fist of God, they listen...

the first message was to be delivered in the center of Ramadan and Hanukkah, when I looked, it was the year, it fell on my birthday...

Christmas and Hanukkah ended on the same day, the first time in 2000 years?

one coincidence after another...

the second message was: the 11th commandment from Mohammad to Islam, the Will of God is Peace...

إرادة الله هو السلام

almost half a million died on Christmas, 3 days after delivering God's message, to the minute...

the 3rd I didn't wait for my Birthday...

don't let evil men live in your lands...

a quarter million died in Pakistan, the epicenter, was the mountain Bin Laden was hiding in... once again 3 days most likely almost to the second of when I shared the message.

the Big Guy is awesome, but I'm a God fearing man, he is so powerful, we could be gone in a blink, why have we forgotten, he really isn't "all" protective...

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm afraid it was posted in my 33 bloodlines thread, which was put to rest a while back... sorry I can't find it in searches, Thunder do you remember the discussion on that prophecy?
The thread was called "Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines...". It was removed from view in June of 2011, along with some of the other Charles/Atticus/BMW/... related threads.

The URL you posted in your prophecy post on that thread was broken, but I tracked it down to http://prophecyproof.blogspot.com/2010/10/return-of-king-david.html

[thunder24]

Would b great if you could open just that one thread Paul.... so much info in there I needed...



I'm afraid it was posted in my 33 bloodlines thread, which was put to rest a while back... sorry I can't find it in searches, Thunder do you remember the discussion on that prophecy?
The thread was called "Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines...". It was removed from view in June of 2011, along with some of the other Charles/Atticus/BMW/... related threads.

The URL you posted in your prophecy post on that thread was broken, but I tracked it down to http://prophecyproof.blogspot.com/2010/10/return-of-king-david.html




America gives $4-5000 a month for every Jew in Israel...


Damn thats enough to give
Americans FREE HEALTH CARE right there... no need for any of the arguements for or against ObamaCare, just stop giving money to Israel.... Heal our own nation...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm afraid it was posted in my 33 bloodlines thread, which was put to rest a while back... sorry I can't find it in searches, Thunder do you remember the discussion on that prophecy?
The thread was called "Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines...". It was removed from view in June of 2011, along with some of the other Charles/Atticus/BMW/... related threads.

The URL you posted in your prophecy post on that thread was broken, but I tracked it down to http://prophecyproof.blogspot.com/2010/10/return-of-king-david.html

I was able to access it until last summer, it disappeared when they added "Priority Threads"

[Akasha]

Eric Jon Phelps (love him or hate him) has essentially labelled the Zionists as Jesuit b!tches from the get go (Rothschilds included) and has long speculated about the overarching plan of the Vatican to ultimately seat itself in Jerusalem (courtesy of the Zionists) for time now. Maybe he's been right all along.

[naste.de.lumina]

Some photos of the site

rNIGzEYhB1s

[ThePythonicCow]

Eric Jon Phelps (love him or hate him) has essentially labelled the Zionists as Jesuit b!tches from the get go (Rothschilds included) and has long speculated about the overarching plan of the Vatican to ultimately seat itself in Jerusalem (courtesy of the Zionists) for time now. Maybe he's been right all along.

Good point.

I have posted an updated guide to obtaining Eric Jon Phelps "Vatican Assassins" on an old thread: Only One 'Bad Guy Left' the 'Black Pope' says Ben..! -- Post #32 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18644-Only-One-Bad-Guy-Left-the-Black-Pope-says-Ben..-&p=831865&viewfull=1#post831865).

[ThePythonicCow]

Would b great if you could open just that one thread Paul.... so much info in there I needed...

Ok - it's in "The Think Tank" sub-forum now. That sub-forum is members-only. The thread is closed (read-only). Avalon - The gathering of 33 Bloodlines... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10845-Avalon-The-gathering-of-33-Bloodlines...)

It's a long thread, so I didn't feel like reading it all, to see whether it should be more accessible.

[Ahnung-quay]

Planned from the beginning?

"For most people "Zion" is the name for Jerusalem as well as for the nation of Israel (Isis-Ra-El). More specifically "Sion" is the name given to a hill of Judea on which the city of Jerusalem is built. In reality, the name "Zion" refers to "Sion", meaning "Sun". Therefore the name "Zionism" is actually referring to the sun-cult, the Babylon cult, and f.i. relates to secret societies like the "Priore de Sion" or "Priory of Sion" (meaning: priory of the Sun"), which lost some of its secrecy because of the fact that the Rennes le Chateau mystery became so popular among certain circles. The Priory of Sion is a secret society created around the Merovingian bloodline (whose ancestors [it is claimed] can be traced back to the royals of Sumer, Troy and the Greek "Gods") and related to the Templars as well as the Illuminati." It's particularly because of the true meaning of "Zion", that Jerusalem's hill has been named that way. As for the sun-cult adepts, hills symbolize the way to get closer to their God, due to the fact that at the top of them one is closer to the sun, symbolizing their God. Hence "mount Sion" or "Sun mountain"." [13]

The true ruling elite bloodlines of the World are the papal bloodlines, the Ptolemaic, These being Farnese, Orsini, Breakspeare, Somaglia and Aldobrandini. Ancient bloodlines of Rome which practice to this day Zoroastrianism and Mithras. These are the grey Jesuits in control of the Society of Jesus from the shadows. No longer do they show their blood within the open Order as of times of old. They put front commoners in the positions of Black Pope and White Pope thus staying out of the peoples eyes. This is also known as the Arcana Arcanorum Rite of Atlantis. And this group is above the Society of Jesus (Jesuit Order). This Order was created by the Papal Bloodline, Farnese family. Alessandro Cardinal Farnese commissioned Spanish Gentile and Knight of the Virgin, Ignatius Loyola who lived in the castle Casa-Solar in the Biscayan Provinces. A co-founder was a dreaded Borja known as Don-Francis from the upmost powerful Black Nobility, Borja family. The Order was created in 1534 during the reign of Farnese Pope Paul III, to destroy the Reformation and Saracens. Controlled by War Rooms within the Villa Caprarola in Lazio, Italy! They quickly became the world’s most feared Order and eventually gained control of the Mithra faction of the Vatican. The Zoroathrianists had finally got their Mithra prize! The front head being the Superior General who at this present time is Adolfo Nicolás. Jesuits dominate almost all of the World especially the U.S & U.K with their powerbases at Georgetown University, ‘Little Rome’ D.C & 114 Mount Street, Westminster! Hitler, Himmler and numerous others highly admired the power, organization of the Order of Orders. With the Papal Bloodlines as their shadow hierachy such as Farnese, Orsini/Maximus, Breakspear, Aldobrandini & Somalgia, they rule in complete darkness. But they are being exposed! Thus they rush to the completion of their New World Order. The Saturnalian Brotherhood The core of the control over Planet Earth’s populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship. The main cults are the worship of the Planet Saturn (El), Moon (Isis), Venus (Lucifer) & Sun (Ra). Israel is located on the land formerly known as Canaan. Canaan was the most advanced post-deluvian civilisation on Earth. Outstripping both Egypt and Sumer in all areas. Now the center of trade, holy land and soon the Divine Dragon’s open ‘Latin Kingdom.’ When the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan. These last two descriptions are the same group, the Society of Jesus and the Jesuit Order, the council of trent, the 4th Vow Military Vicars.. For Lucifer!!" [14]

http://www.thebabylonmatrix.com/index.php?title=911:Black_nobility

[ThePythonicCow]

Planned from the beginning?
...
When the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan. These last two descriptions are the same group, the Society of Jesus and the Jesuit Order, the council of trent, the 4th Vow Military Vicars.. For Lucifer!!" [14]

http://www.thebabylonmatrix.com/index.php?title=911:Black_nobility

When I follow your thebabylonmatrix.com link, I see that the material you quote from there is sourced to come from the webpage: http://pepehateme.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/money-and-power/. Good - so far :).

Looking at that second webpage, I do indeed see this material in the November 2, 2009 on that pepehateme.wordpress.com blog.

However, that pepehateme.wordpress.com blog does not appear to provide a source for that material of any sort, much less a Luciferian, Vatican, Zionist, Nazi or Jesuit source. So the phrase "When the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan" seems to be just the conclusions of the author of the pepehateme.wordpress.com blog.

[Ahnung-quay]

Point well taken Paul but, still a possibility considering all angles..

[Rocky_Shorz]

Israel Moves 500 Tanks to Northern Borders...

Israel swept by rainiest May day on record

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/05/Jerusalem-May-7-e1399555056776-635x357.jpg

"rare storm dumped rain across Israel over Wednesday night and Thursday morning, causing flash floods and wreaking havoc in the south of the country.

The rains, which caused the Sea of Galilee to rise some 2.5 centimeters (1 inch), were the heaviest ever recorded for the month of May. The precipitation brought dry riverbeds to life, flooding low-lying areas, especially in the Judean Desert and Negev in the south of the country.

On Thursday morning schools near the Dead Sea were closed and several main roads in the area were blocked by authorities. The Eilat airport was temporarily closed due to flooding, and the Health Ministry issued a warning against swimming in the Mediterranean, citing pollutants in runoff making its way to the sea.

Several groups of hikers and tourists were stranded by the rain. At Masada, some 200 students and their parents were stranded for hours. The group, on a school trip, arrived at the historic site near the Dead Sea early Thursday, but the road was subsequently closed, forcing them to wait for hours in their buses.

On Thursday morning, rescue units used helicopters to evacuate 70 American tourists, members of a World Bnei Akiva group, from a camping site near the Nekarot stream in the Arava region, after they were trapped by a flash flood. Another group of tourists, some 100 hikers from the US and Germany, was rescued from the same region.

Route 90, the main highway running along the Dead Sea, was closed in some areas after flash floods covered the road. Three tour buses, carrying visitors from Thailand on their way from Jordan to Ein Gedi, were reported trapped on the road.

On Route 40 in the Negev, a driver was rescued by authorities Thursday morning after his vehicle was caught in a flash flood near the Paran river.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2mXmWiyo8

The driver was taken by helicopter to Yoseftal Hospital in Eilat.

Police urged citizens in the hard-hit Tamar Regional Council, near the Dead Sea, to stay indoors until further notice. Schools in the area were closed Thursday.

By Thursday morning the city of Arad had reported 44 millimeters of rain had fallen from the storm, 40 times the average for this time of year, according to the Israel Meteorological Service. Jerusalem saw 32 millimeters, Beersheba 24 millimeters and Ra’anana 45 millimeters. Tel Aviv saw 27 millimeters.

The IDF Spokesman’s office reported that due to weather conditions, US National Security Advisor Susan Rice, who is currently in Israel for a series of high-level talks between Jerusalem and Washington, was forced to cancel a planned trip to the Palmachim IAF base. The trip will be rescheduled for Friday, the report added.

The rains had tapered off by late Thursday, but a flash flood warning was to remain in effect until Friday afternoon." link (http://www.timesofisrael.com/highest-may-rainfall-ever-recorded-thursday/)


Hamas has agreed to the 1967 Borders and the Big guy is sending a warning about not seeking peace and finishing the talks.

tanks make a lousy ark...

[naste.de.lumina]

Vatican and the Talmud has much in common.


Canon 2052 (link (http://one-heaven.org/canons/positive_law/article/100.html))

The Three (3) Cestui Vie Trusts What are the specific denial of rights of Real Property, Personal Property and Ecclesiastical Property for most men and women, Corresponds exactly to the three forms of law available to the Galla of the Bar Association Courts. The first form of law is corporate commercial law is effective because of the 1st Cestui What Vie Trust. The second form of law is maritime and trust law is effective because of the 2nd Cestui What Vie Trust. The 3rd form of law is Talmudic and Roman Cult law is effective because of the 3rd Cestui What Vie Trust of Baptism.

The Christian church has always been in Rome.

If the Vatican move to Jerusalem, becomes another Church. Talmutzation. This church serves whom?

Naste.


crazy this photo.
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/05/Jerusalem-May-7-e1399555056776-635x357.jpg

[Roisin]

I predicted that the next pope was going to be connected in some way to St. Francis of Assisi in another forum a week before the next pope was elected. I posted that information including the link to that forum showing that information and a link to a webpage where I have screenshots of those posts of mine on that. IOW’s, it’s all documented, ok? I posted all of this in this forum. PM me if you want those links and information.


I also posted in this forum back in Feb. of this year that according to the information I was getting via my sources the Vatican was going to take over Mount Zion regardless that on that very day, as I was to find out later in the day after I got that information, the PM of Israel announced that Israel was not giving up that compound to the Vatican. Prior to any of this, I never even knew about the Vatican’s claim to that compound and so on and the last I heard of Mount Zion was in that Charlton Heston movie "Moses" that I saw every year around Easter on TV.

So what’s going on now? I don’t know why I received any of the information I stated above and other information too having to do with this new pope and the Vatican but rest assured there’s something going on now and it’s not good. Just take my word for it. If I find out any more on this, I'll let you know.

It's weird, it's strange and it's disturbing.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Vatican and the Talmud has much in common.


Canon 2052 (link (http://one-heaven.org/canons/positive_law/article/100.html))

The Three (3) Cestui Vie Trusts What are the specific denial of rights of Real Property, Personal Property and Ecclesiastical Property for most men and women, Corresponds exactly to the three forms of law available to the Galla of the Bar Association Courts. The first form of law is corporate commercial law is effective because of the 1st Cestui What Vie Trust. The second form of law is maritime and trust law is effective because of the 2nd Cestui What Vie Trust. The 3rd form of law is Talmudic and Roman Cult law is effective because of the 3rd Cestui What Vie Trust of Baptism.

The Christian church has always been in Rome.

If the Vatican move to Jerusalem, becomes another Church. Talmutzation. This church serves whom?

Naste.


crazy this photo.
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/05/Jerusalem-May-7-e1399555056776-635x357.jpg

after my message to the Catholic Church, the pope quit...

this pic was just as awesome, the lightning that hit right after...

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1704567.ece/alternates/s615b/A%20lightning%20strikes%20St%20Peter%27s%20dome%20at%20the%20Vatican%20on%20February%2011.jpg

sounds like Saudi Arabia and Israel are preparing for repercussions after an Iran attack... 500 tanks moved to the north border of Israel, 130,000 troops today in Saudi...

too bad they aren't religious countries or they might consider the 40 times the normal amount of rain in a day as a reminder of 40 days and 40 nights...


I'll let the big guy know you both just flipped him off after hearing his message... :loco:

[sigma6]

To hold in trust in exchange that they maintain it, and provide for the coming destruction of the muslim temple maybe, as a joint exercise, an insurance policy of protection by Western (US) forces in the event the stir up in the middle east achieves its aim of starting a international war...

A step toward the corporatizing of all religion under one umbrella, since we now know they are all "compromised" in preparation for a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT and NEW WORLD ORDER. Including ONE World Religion.

[naste.de.lumina]

This image is Surreal.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1704567.ece/alternates/s615b/A%20lightning%20strikes%20St%20Peter%27s%20dome%20at%20the%20Vatican%20on%20February%2011.jpg

But my favorite is this picture of the Voortrekker Monument (site of the Mandela funeral)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AbaIqGzFIgE/TpneJmIpBFI/AAAAAAAAAIs/qRui8Pse_Dk/s1600/Southafrica.PNG


'Coincidentally' the monument is almost upon an intersection point (41) of the ley line.

http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/tumblr_mbdu66odms1rdes1jo1_500.jpg?w=950

[Sierra]

The December 1993 covenant between Israel and the Vatican has recently been confirmed. The Roman church has long desired a foothold in Jerusalem, and now they have it in a big and prophetic way. Israel has given the Pope an official seat in the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The deal was sealed on January 29, 2013 before the current Pope resigned, and is expected to be ratified in June. This will give the new pope a special authority over the second floor of the building. There are complaints that this was done in secret, without any public debate.



Whatever it is, it seems that the 'purpose of desire' is on the second floor.

The story (I wonder what they do not say) of this temple:
On Top Of Mount Zion, All Coveted By Rome (http://www.rense.com/general69/topmz.htm)

It boggles the mind... Really??? Does anyone actually believe the building that housed the Last Supper is still in existence? :frusty:

There is something about that location (access to something valuable?), driving this silliness. It can't just be a religious psyop...

Fascinating article Naste.de.Lumina, thank you. I quote two portions for comment:

1)"BC - Why all the money and trouble if the Vatican gets the real estate? What was in it for Germany?

AE - Germany has never given up its dream of reviving the Holy Roman Empire. At the height of that empire, their greatest king, Frederick the Great, marched into Jerusalem and became the city's king. Jerusalem was once part of the Holy Roman Empire and the dream is that it will be again. In this empire, the delineation of powers was strict. The pope was the spiritual leader, but the political leader was whoever ruled Germany. This dream led straight to World War I."

The Nazis have managed to take over ruler ship of the US after "losing" WWII without firing a single shot...


2) "BC - Where do the Jews fit in all this?

AE - Nowhere. Herzl tried to get a role for the Jews and met with Wilhelm in Jerusalem. Wilhelm would have nothing to do with him. His goal was to save Jerusalem for a Christendom led politically by Germany and spiritually by Rome. Nothing has changed except now the pope is a determined German. The Vatican want the Jews out of the Old City and apparently our government is agreeing with them."

(Our government *is* German...) The Jews are going to have something to say about this, I am sure. As in monumentally enraged...

[naste.de.lumina]

Think this article below as a possibility, a reflection for assembly or complement a one context. Pushing limits.

The Fiery Eye of the Beast - by Caeli Francisco for HumansAreFree.com

Benedict (http://humansarefree.com/search?q=pope) and the Beast

In my last article I wrote about the one that is hidden at the Priory of the Vatican, having been locked up in its dungeon-like hiding place for thousands of years. This is an entity that “dictates the way for its deadly adherents to harm innocent humans - their leader, without which the deadly ones cannot live”. [1]

The presence and hiding place of this beast had to be revealed but that did not happen, with the result that another malevolent energy force was allowed to set the beast free - an energy invoked not by a symbol of allegiance to the beast such as the hand signal in the shape of horns, but something entirely different and much more malevolent.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DVGUIMzf-VM/U2ufGRKieEI/AAAAAAAAM_o/m8SBufG4-q8/s1600/Illuminati+Templar+Knights+Holly+See.png

So, it is done and the beast is unchained!

Where is the hiding place of the beast then that none could think of revealing it to those who had to know? I will tell and show you: the Priory of the Vatican is the place where the former pope (http://humansarefree.com/search?q=pope) retired to, or should I say went into hiding – the monastery in the back gardens of Vatican City.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5dzM8z0VF1Q/U2uhbwJMl-I/AAAAAAAAM_0/GfDTE8YygYs/s1600/THE+MATER+ECCLESIAE+MONASTERY+01+02.png

More (http://humansarefree.com/2014/05/the-fiery-eye-of-beast.html)

[naste.de.lumina]

The Jews are going to have something to say about this, I am sure. As in monumentally enraged...

Rabbi: Government Giving Away King David's Tomb is 'Anti-Israel'

Rabbi warns that rumored deal to hand King David's Tomb to the Vatican can have deep religious consequences.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/Resizer.ashx/news/250/168/472277.jpg
Statue of King David, King David's Tomb

By Benny Toker and Tova Dvorin - 5/7/2014.

Rabbi Simcha HaCohen Kook, Rabbi of Rehovot and member of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, warned that the government relinquishing David's Tomb to the Vatican would be a "national disgrace."

"Twenty years ago they wanted to do something similar, to give the burial place of King David away - and again today," the Rabbi stated to Arutz Sheva Wednesday.

"Imagine if another nation did something similar [by giving away an ancient heritage or religious site - ed.] - there would be an outcry," he continued. "Now when Jews do it, the world is silent. We are tumbling down a deep abyss."

Rabbi Kook noted that, unlike some Jewish religious sites, all the Rabbis in Israel have declared that King David's Tomb really is on Mount Zion - making giving the site away a national tragedy.

"The Ben Ish Chai wrote a special song for it, the Holy Ari confirmed the gravesite's location in Israel, Rabbi Moshe Hagis also did," he said. "The Maharil Diskin and Rabbi Shmuel Salant, Rabbis of Jerusalem, wrote that those who doubt Mount Zion is the burial place of King David, is uncouth and ignorant. Tomorrow they will come and say that Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai is not buried in Meron - how did we get here?"

The Rabbi also expressed confusion over the status of the deal, rumors of which have floated around Israeli media for months - but have yet to be confirmed in Italian media.

"For months, the Vatican said that everything is agreed, and that King David's Tomb is signed away," he lamented. "What can we do? If they give Catholics the room above the Tomb of David, we cannot pray there."

Rabbi Kook added that the issue has incredible religious implications.

"This is as if the Jews are admitting to the Christians that they, not us, are the 'true descendants' of King David," he warned. "Young Jews will want to come here to pray and instead see masses of Christian worshippers."

"Who knows if this could cause a wave of conversions [to Catholicism]?" he continued. "What will happen in the World to Come when we have to testify [before G-d] and say that we lived in a generation which handed over King David's Tomb? A government who does such a thing is forbidden to belong to the people of Israel, this is an anti-Israeli government."

Concerns over a possible transfer of the property have been raised multiple times over the past several months. Earlier this month, an Israeli diplomatic source told Arutz Sheva that the Israeli government has no intention of transferring control over the site to the Church.

However, Rabbi Yaakov Sevilia, an activist for King David's Tomb, told Arutz Sheva that there is a deal in the works - which would see David's Tomb given to Christians, and the Temple Mount to Muslims. He cited journalist Gulio Meotti, who contributes regularly to Arutz Sheva, as the source for this knowledge.

MK Tzipi Hotovely (Likud) has also written a stern letter to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu over the issue, noting its political significance in terms of Israel's history and heritage.

"It is inconceivable that this place will be transferred to foreign hands, such the Torahs and the Star of David will be swallowed in a sea of crosses," the Deputy Minister wrote.

''Transferring the rights to the gravesite of David to Christian hands would be similar to Moshe Dayan's decision to entrust the keys to the Temple Mount to the Jordanian Waqf."

Hotovely warned that David's Tomb, like the Temple Mount, could become restricted to Jewish access and prayer - and has serious political and religious implications.

"David's Tomb is also evidence of Jewish sovereignty in ancient Israel," she declared. "Handing over the grave of the great leaders of the ancient Jewish state, is in fact an agreement with the Palestinians - who rewrite history and challenge the legitimacy of the State of Israel."

Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180384#.U25v_vldVgg

[thunder24]

"Who knows if this could cause a wave of conversions [to Catholicism]?" he continued. "What will happen in the World to Come when we have to testify [before G-d] and say that we lived in a generation which handed over King David's Tomb? A government who does such a thing is forbidden to belong to the people of Israel, this is an anti-Israeli government."

hell, what will the 'rabbi' say when BIG DUDE asks why your ancestors insisted on Hey-zeus being murdered?! something like "oh well, may the sins of our fathers be handed down 7 generations" R U KIDDING ME?

Is this rabbi in the article Shephardic or Ask-A-Nazi?
Ill go with Ask-a-nazi since others before him with same last name were...till someone corrects me...

Isn't that pic of David considered an idol?

"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." exodus 20:4

Damn IS-RA-EL? YA'll just keep screwing up don't ya?
with all siriousness, the zionist agenda and regime needs to an "attitude adjustment" hopefully the day is close by that we can all see this happen...
'and the lion can lay down with the lamb'

palestine, grab hold of your people, and let the world know, if you as a collective support the rockets or if it is influenced from another place... kinda like U.s. in ukraine and russia in ukraine....

[naste.de.lumina]

Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'The doors of the Catholic Church are open to everyone'

Pope Francis has said that he would be willing to baptise aliens if they came to the Vatican, asking “who are we to close doors” to anyone - even Martians.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHYq-_nwP6ncVle00PYf6-DQYU4zu1Pl8i6pFktvvgf4fGoXGiLg

In a homily yesterday dedicated to the concepts of acceptance and inclusion, Francis recalled a Bible story about the conversion of the first pagans to Christianity, according to reports on Vatican Radio.

He said Catholicism was a church of “open doors”, and that it was up to Christians to accept the Holy Spirit however “unthinkable” and “unimaginable” it appeared.

Describing how, according to the Bible, Peter was criticised by the Christians of Jerusalem for making contact with a community of “unclean” pagans, Francis said that at the time that too was “unthinkable”.

“If, for example, tomorrow an expedition of Martians came to us here and one said ‘I want to be baptised!’, what would happen?”

Clarifying that he really was talking about aliens, the Pope said: “Martians, right? Green, with long noses and big ears, like in children’s drawings.”

More (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-says-he-would-baptise-aliens-9360632.html)


'The return of those who have not gone?'.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I know many of you think I'm wasting my time trying to give Israel advice through an online forum, but how many times since I joined Avalon have you been quietly surprised...

they just froze new settlements, my signal that they do want peace...

Kerry, make it happen or step aside and let me bring both sides together.

I want my chair on 2nd floor, and every nation in the region to come by to hug the others, these battles are over, time for a peaceful world...

I give you a hard time Net&Yahoo, but seriously, there is no one else I trust in moving forward.

I am here, and standing by you moving forward


Danon: Government has frozen settlement expansion plans
Deputy DP protests ‘silent freeze,’ urges annexation of 60% of West Bank, says price tag attackers need psychological help, praises Shimon Peres



sraeli authorities have recently imposed a “silent freeze” on planning for further Jewish settlement expansion, Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon said Monday.

While construction work is currently taking place on already approved projects, no new developments are planned and no tenders and bids are being issued, he said.

“I don’t know of a formal policy to limit building. But when you look, de facto, what’s happening on the ground, yes, you feel there is a silent freeze in terms of planning and in terms of government construction,” Danon (Likud) told The Times of Israel. “And that’s something that bothers me.”

This “freeze” is being enforced everywhere — within and outside the so-called settlement blocs, he said.

“If you don’t allow any planning, it will stop. You will have no [housing] units for youngsters in Ariel, in Maaleh Adumim. This is happening already.”

Major West Bank cities should be expanding, the deputy minister said, but “you don’t see it happening. You see kindergartens in Ariel are being closed down next year, because there are no youngsters,” he said. “You will see there are not enough apartments.”

Danon said he wasn’t sure why the government would agree to quietly freeze settlement expansion, suggesting that pressure from the United States might be behind it. “Building in Judea and Samaria is a major issue among the Americans,” he said, using the Biblical names for the West Bank. “A lot of pressure is being put on us.”

But Dani Dayan, of the Yesha Council of Jewish Communities in Judea and Samaria, backed Danon’s claim of a “silent” settlement freeze. “For the last three months, the planning committee of the Civil Administration in charge of building has not convened even once,” he told The Times of Israel Monday. “Plans for new buildings were not advanced one inch, let alone approved. There are no new tenders at all,” he said.

Construction is proceeding on pre-approved projects, Dayan said. “There is still some water in the pipeline, but if no new water is added, then clearly the pipeline will dry up soon.”

“As far as we know, this is because of a direct order from the Prime Minister’s Office,” Dayan charged, adding that he assumes that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was “intimidated” by “threats” from the White House or the State Department.

The PMO declined to comment on Danon’s statements.

According to unnamed senior US officials, President Barack Obama believes that Israeli announcements of construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem throughout the nine months of the US-brokered Israeli-Palestinian peace talks were more central than any other factor in causing the negotiations’ collapse. Ten days ago in Washington, US special envoy Martin Indyk said settlement activity had “sabotaged negotiations” and now represented “a roadblock to resumption of negotiations.” In a report late last month, the dovish Peace Now NGO said Israel had approved the construction of nearly 14,000 homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem during the nine months of peace talks.

Hagit Ofran, settlement watch project director for Peace Now, said that it was “premature” to speak about a settlement freeze. “Not enough time has passed since the last time new tenders were published,” she told The Times of Israel Monday. The Civil Administration’s planning committee is meeting constantly, and republished tenders for new housing units as early as the end of April, she said.

“In the speed in which construction is done it’s quite normal to have three weeks without any new announcements,” she said, adding that it was common for there to be a pause between new tenders, especially when so many tenders were announced in previous months. “[A break of] three months is an exaggeration,” she said, dismissing Dayan’s claim.

In a meeting with Times of Israel staff in Jerusalem, the deputy defense minister also addressed Israel’s response to so-called “price tag” hate crime attacks. More should be done to bring perpetrators to justice, he said, but he suggested that authorities should also pay attention to the psychological issues leading radicalized West Bank settlers to commit such acts.

“We have to send not only the police to these places, but also mental health professionals to deal with all those youngsters. That’s something we’re failing to do,” he said. “Whoever is participating in those acts is unstable. They’re hurting the State of Israel, they’re hurting the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria.”

Danon said that he was “very close” to the Jewish communities in the West Bank, and asserted that the vast majority of settlers would like to see such attacks stop. “If they could have taken a decision and uprooted those forces, they would have done it,” he said. “The bottom line is to go to the police forces who investigate it [and instruct them] to do a better job, and to the judges, when they get to the point of ruling, to be very harsh when they sentence those people to jail.”

However, Danon lamented, at the same times as the country denounces the “price tag” events, spray-paint attacks on synagogues in the mixed Jewish-Arab cities of Lod and Ramle, allegedly perpetrated “by Muslim hooligans,” do not receive any media attention.
‘Peres proved you can support the state from this position’

Regarding the presidential elections, scheduled for June 10, the deputy minister, known as one of the leaders of Likud’s young far-right wing, said he will likely back either Reuven Rivlin or Silvan Shalom.

Perhaps surprisingly, he had some warm words for Shimon Peres, the dovish outgoing president.

“Shimon Peres proved that you can add things and you can support the state from this [presidential] position,” Danon said. “I think he added valued to the presidency, in terms of bringing investment to Israel… I’m not happy about everything he said, I’m not supporting his ideology at all. But I think he was a symbol.”

While some Israelis argue that the largely representational office is a waste of public funds, Danon said Peres’s accomplishments for Israel easily outweigh the costs of the upkeep of his official residency and his frequent travels.

Regarding the conflict with the Palestinians, Danon reiterated his fierce opposition to any two-state solution, instead calling on Israel to annex parts of the West Bank. While international consensus speaks of Israel retaining the major Jewish settlements blocs in the West Bank, and the rest going to a future Palestinian state, Danon hopes to “gain sovereignty over the majority of the land” in the West Bank, “with the minimum number of Palestinians.”

According to his plan, the Palestinians would keep only their major population centers and would not receive Israeli citizenship. “Their status will have to be determined with Jordan, Israel and the Palestinians. It shouldn’t be Israel’s burden to deal with that issue. I think Jordan must be involved more than they are today.”

How exactly a future agreement would look, Danon said, remains unclear. “It’s not only [a choice between] two states or one state. That’s how it’s being presented. But I say wait, there are other options, let’s wait and discuss,” he said. “If you look at what’s happening today in the region, you see that everything is open to negotiations.”

Israel made a mistake by not annexing major parts of the West Bank after capturing them in 1967, Danon said. “But it’s not too late.”

If he were in power, he would move to annex Area C, which covers some 60% of the West Bank and is home to an estimated 4% of the Palestinian populace. The territory should be annexed at a future opportune occasion, for example as a retaliatory step for unilateral moves by the Palestinians. “You need to think about the timing,” he said. “So I’m not saying to do it tomorrow morning. But it’s something that we should do, and we should think about when we do it and how we do it, but it’s something that we should aim for.”

Arguing for the Jews’ right to the land of Israel, Danon quotes the Bible and international treaties, but also what he considers simple logic: “When you win the war, you don’t make compromises after that,” he said. “It doesn’t work like that. We won the war – they can’t go back now and say, ‘Well, in ’48 [when the United Nations proposed a Jewish state and an Arab state] the intention was different.’ Yes, but the fact is that they lost. That’s part of life. We should retain what we won in the war.”

link (http://www.timesofisrael.com/danon-government-has-frozen-settlement-expansion-plans/)


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So I missed a lot of this thread --- but it's real?
They really are conceding these sites to the Vatican?

@_@ eek.

So... if the Vatican controls the tombs of kings...
does it also control the bloodlines of kings?

will they be telling us whom to worship soon?

>.>

Scurry times.

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on the Palestinian side, Hamas leader moved to Cairo...

Hamas: Palestinian unity govt. to be unveiled in days
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Senior Fatah official Azzam Al-Ahmed (L) speaks with head of the Hamas government Ismail Haniyeh as they announce a reconciliation agreement during a news conference in Gaza City April 23, 2014. (Reuters)

" AFP, Gaza City
Sunday, 18 May 2014

A new Palestinian “consensus government” to be named by the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Islamist movement Hamas is to be finalized within days, a senior Hamas official said Sunday.

Bassem Naim, an advisor to Hamas's premier for the Gaza Strip, Ismail Haniya, said a senior member of Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas's Fatah movement, which dominates the PLO, would meet with Hamas officials in Gaza this week to conclude negotiations.

Azzam al-Ahmad is “arriving in Gaza on Wednesday and Thursday to meet with the Hamas reconciliation delegation to hold consultations,” Naim told AFP.

“We expect the government to be announced by (Abbas) early the following week,” he said, and will then be presented to the Palestinian parliament for a vote of confidence.

Hamas signed a reconciliation deal last month with the PLO in a surprise move which aims to overcome a years-long intra-Palestinian split.

Hamas has dominated the Palestinian parliament since winning a landslide victory in the last parliamentary election, held in 2006.

But the U.S. and Europe have since backed the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority under Abbas and boycotted the Islamist movement, which advocates armed conflict with Israel.

Under their April 23 reconciliation deal, the two sides are to form an “independent government” of technocrats, headed by Abbas, paving the way for long-delayed elections.

Representatives from the rival factions have held several rounds of talks to heal the bad blood since Hamas expelled Fatah from Gaza in a week of deadly clashes in 2007.

The reconciliation deal has incensed Israel, putting the final nail in the coffin of faltering U.S.-led peace talks between the Jewish state and Abbas's administration."
link (http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/05/18/Hamas-Palestinian-unity-govt-to-be-unveiled-in-days.html)

Israel froze settlements, Palestinians have come back together in peace, and rain is rolling into town after the fires...

not a bad start to the week...

view from the King David Hotel...

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