MSNBC mouthpiece melisa harris "Your kids are not yours" apparently belong to the state?

[jerry]

Jackboot thug propaganda in this very short to the point unbelievable clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qtpdSQox0&feature=player_detailpage

[ThePythonicCow]

Jackboot thug propaganda in this very short to the point unbelievable clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qtpdSQox0&feature=player_detailpage

Dang -- that's scary :).

[andrewgreen]

'Legally' our Children don't belong to us. The state has the right to enforce they go to school and they can confiscate them from us by taking them into care.

[Curt]

'Legally' our Children don't belong to us. The state has the right to enforce they go to school and they can confiscate them from us by taking them into care.

Yes. But, of course, 'morally and ethically' that's pure horsesh*t.

Historically, regimes pass laws to allow themselves to do all sorts of horrendous things.

As human beings we need to hold the right to disregard any law that contravenes Natural Law.

[Calz]

Removed by me.

[kemo]

The natural law is that no-one 'belongs' to anyone other than themselves. Parents have care of their children. They don't own them.

[Curt]

Yes. And neither does the State 'own them'.

That's not what's at question.

What's at question is: who should have the right to make primary, fundamental decisions regarding their (the children's) day-to-day lives?

The answer to that should be, and is: the parents.


The natural law is that no-one 'belongs' to anyone other than themselves. Parents have care of their children. They don't own them.

[Calz]

Removed by me.

[Matt P]

Well, she doesn't say kids belong to the state, she says we need to think about kids belonging to "communities" so we all make better choices. Not that I'm defending what this corporate media company had this woman say.....there is a difference though.

We have kids from the neighborhood at our house almost every day. A lot of their parents don't even know us that well but they trust us to keep their kids safe when they're here. Same when my kids are at their homes. We all have a responsibility to help care for all the children around us. So, my little neighborhood community is in fact collectively raising our kids.

Of course, if you want to get technical about it, once our kids are born into the United States Corporation and take a birth certificate and a social security card, they actually ARE assets owned by the state. Not that I agree with or accept that if it comes down to custody! Or vaccinations, or.....

Loaded topic here.

Matt

[Matt P]

Gripreaper posted this on another current thread and it's very relevant here, too:

"First off, let me say I do not support slavery or indentured servitude to an oligarchical system of mass producing docile obedient and task specific workers, to expand and proliferate wealth for the globalist oligarchical class without any regard for individualism, creativity, or critical thinking, through self discovery and self motivated passions towards self interest.

But, let me also point out, we already are wards of the state, chattel owned by this state, and we collectively support this system of statehood mandates and statehood control in almost every aspect of our lives.

We begin at the beginning by registering our children to the state at birth, by applying for social security, and by adhesion to registered voting, drivers licenses, and all manner of acquiescence to the state and the state mandated systems of statutory rules and regulations for the statutory state owned citizens, also known as residents. If you are a citizen or a resident, you belong to the state. You pay your taxes to this state system, through your very labor and your domicile. You have no lawful title to anything, but only "tenants in possession" privileges (equitable title), as long as you follow the mandates of the system.

So, I ask, why shouldn't the owners of their property have a say so in how their property is to be managed? See how deep this rabbit hole goes? There IS NO sovereignty anymore, all of us are already indentured into servitude, and support the system in all ways, sign up for the benefits and privileges which go along with being a statutory citizen, and still think our children are our own?

We really missed the boat somewhere. WE acquiesced to the New Deal over 70 years ago, handed over all our gold, via executive order, to this rogue unelected corporate government structure, and accepted the terms of the New Deal. Well, the new deal was: all energy, all natural resources, all human resources, all property, all tangibles and intangibles were to be pledged to this oligarchical class of private banksters in perpetuity, to do as they pleased, in exchange for a line of credit towards more worthless fiat debt based currency, with compound interest attached, which could NEVER be paid off. In addition, we are to follow and obey over 60 thousand statutory rules and regulations, which were to be enforced through a mercenary force of indentured bureaucrats.

In exchange, we are to turn into this system all of our energy and efforts, obey all of it's mandates, rules and regulations, and this system would then in turn, give us a pittance of survivability in old age and put us in warehouses to die through inducing toxic pharmaceuticals.

There are no sovereign nationals that I am aware of, or if there are a few who have figured it out and extricated themselves from this system, they do so full well knowing, that they better not mess with state property on their way out or the state will take them out and kill them.

This IS the way it is folks, and so few even know it or realize that they are willingly in a prison without bars, and most people like being slaves and like being taken care of and told what to do. That's the way that it is."

Gripreaper, posted on Common Core Must Be Stopped thread

[Lifebringer]

They do it in the southern states and you have to actually go to judiciary to claim any children you have, if you were too poor to pay for the birth, and the state covered the child's entrance as well as pre-natal care, as Parents. Isn't that the most ignorant stuff you've heard in your life. If you sired under government/our taxes, you are owned by the state, like chattel sheep or livestock and resources.

I think corporate US has gone way beyond the line, they are off the rails stark raving mad as if they have "rabies of greed syndrome."

[Lifebringer]

The natural law is that no-one 'belongs' to anyone other than themselves. Parents have care of their children. They don't own them.

Not only that, but the Mother is responsible for the female/child and the male is responsible for the male child. As both parents remember when they were that age of every stage in their child's life they go through. A mom cannot teach a son to be a courageous and warrior protective leader as a man can who has gone through it by protecting and taking care of his family. The skills a woman has doing every cotton picking thing from both male and female prospectives(ceiling shattering of stereotypes) of a woman's place by male minds, is wrong on every accord. Menses body cleanses and fertilization proceedures of the body to make the perfect species of Mother, provided guidance and advisory adults surround the child and still remain at a distance enough for them to go through life on their own terms. Peer pressure is just a secret way of keeping parents out of youth conversation when experiencing life on their own terms. If they must experiment with drinking, pot, sex or other, they still must have the proper guidance of the parents in charge over them until age, to make correct decisions without harming themselves as much as possible. Allowing them to grow. The shooter at the university, was mentally challenged on the fact he "felt he didn't fit in enough to date blondes?" His father should have told him to try going to a gym and developing his material body, that the girls are attracted to. Simple enough to occupy his mind and he would have started dating because he would have fit in with the jocks that always get the girls. Did he do sports? Where was that dad when he needed him for guidance on how to meet girls?

[rgray222]

The entire concept of "it takes a community" to raise a child is a premise many people would like to be adopted by society. In essence they would like government to be responsible for a child from cradle to grave. This concept is so off base that it boggles the mind. In the United States when parents shirks their parenting responsibility many times it is the gangs that step in and provide the structure that they so desperately desire. Ultimately this leads to a life of crime, drugs, incarceration and in many many cases early death.

I think the word 'ownership' was used intentionally instead of responsibility. When a child is visiting your children you accept responsibility for their well being and safety when they are in your home, this is natural and this makes sense but by using the word "community ownership" it implies that the government and society have the primary responsibility for their care, education, well being and lifestyle of your child. When your child is in school that institution takes 'responsibility' for the well being and safety while they are there; but there is no way shape or form they should take 'ownership'.

Parents need to take primary ownership and responsibility for their children! Any other "ownership" or responsibility structure would be harmful for the child, the family and society.

[Lifebringer]

The natural law is that no-one 'belongs' to anyone other than themselves. Parents have care of their children. They don't own them.

We are blessed to be entrusted with the seed and soul incarnate, brought through "evidently some emotional idea of love" and nurture it with wisdom of experience, caution them of everyone thinking sometimes opposite, what they would be thinking(right to think/choose) their own path. But sometimes reaching for the brass/GOLD ring, can blind you to the neglect of the seed, and the creative mind becomes blocked with anger from the child because of the neglect. I've raised quite a few children and neighbors children while babysitting, and I tell you the seed planted in neglect, goes awry every single time, in some form or acting out or the other. Lessons of the parent must be passed onto the proper child and locking them up, is causing all the children to repeat and do stuff that really could have been prevented, had they just not had to work 6-9 days before a day off or too broke to spend family outing time. No car, no anything in reach, but more monthly bills in endless fee cycles.

Sorry guys, I simply don't want that type of shackle on parents/my children. They must be free to be who they will become or to build upon what dreams they have in their lives.
This is our graduation homework and nobody passes the grade, unless they pass the test of morality, intent and unconditional, non-biased love. We shall see, shan't we?

:wizard:

[jerry]

Its the lies and subversion of the truth about the true agenda here that is scary .... the common core is part of this effect taking place directly on our kids. They have omitted the real history of our country in many of their books mandated as study material by the state. They are force feeding and indoctrinating a collective socialist totalitarian mindset much like they did in Germany.