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Hazel
26th July 2014, 04:39
A friend in the USA emailed this to me recently...
and yeeers just another affirmation regards the mechanics of control:


A must read . . . the eight rules of Saul Alinsky . . .

"It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled." by --Mark Twain.

Saul Alinsky died about 43 years ago, but his writings influenced those in political control of our nation today....... Please Recall that Hillary Clinton did her college thesis on Saul Alinskys writings and Obama writes about him in his books.

Died: June 12, 1972, Carmel-by-the-Sea, Ca
Education: University of Chicago
Books: ‘”Rules for Radicals”, and “Reveille for Radicals”
Anyone out there think that this stuff isn ' t happening today in the U.S. Study the Rules ?

All eight rules are currently in play . . . How to create a social state by Saul Alinsky:
There are eight (8)levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state. The first is the most important.

1) Healthcare- Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty - Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control- Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income)

6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to - take control of what children learn in school (common core).

7) Religion - Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Does any of this sound like what is happening to the United States . . . today ?

Alinsky merely simplified Vladimir Lenin ' s original scheme for world conquest by communism, under Russian rule. Stalin described his converts as "Useful Idiots." The Useful Idiots have destroyed every nation in which they have seized power and control. It is presently happening at an alarming rate in the U.S.

If people can read this and still say everything is just fine…they are "useful idiots.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere (trust and believe)."

Selene
27th July 2014, 00:33
Wow. Saul Alinsky can only be described as an extraordinary visionary, (since my own world-view is currently fighting the idea that “all of this was planned”). Or maybe he just intuited The Plan? Did he indeed see the future correctly? Or was he an insider?

No matter. That’s one heckuva track record.

But at the same time, back ix-ty years ago, would any of us have taken his comments seriously at the time? Probably not, I think. He tried. We ignored the warning, obviously. That’s our responsibility.

Damn. Who knew?

Selene

Snowflower
27th July 2014, 01:04
It seems more like they followed his blueprint than that he "knew" what was coming.

atman
27th July 2014, 01:30
The above-quoted list of steps for "How to create a social state" is falsely attributed to Saul Alinsky, according to the article at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp#vx4JxkZXhOKSFz51.99



“(...) (It is) not something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, though, and to those familiar with his background it doesn't even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about "controlling health care" is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of "increasing the poverty level as high as possible" is the very antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This piece is simply a modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution (http://www.snopes.com/history/document/communistrules.asp) piece which was originally passed along without attribution until Alinsky's name became attached to it (presumably because someone out there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written).

The closest analog (in form, if not in content) to the above-reproduced list of "How to create a social state" to be found in the writings of Saul Alinsky is the following list of "power tactics" Alinsky outlined in his 1971 book Rules for Radicals:

Always remember the first rule of power tactics: Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

The second rule is: Never go outside the experience of your people. When an action is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

The third rule is: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

The fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

The fourth rule carries within it the fifth rule: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

The sixth rule is: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. If your people are not having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.

The seventh rule: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time, after which it becomes a ritualistic commitment, like going to church on Sunday mornings.

The eighth rule: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

The ninth rule: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

The tenth rule: The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.

The eleventh rule is: If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.

The twelfth rule: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. You cannot risk being trapped by the enemy in his sudden agreement with your demand and saying "You're right — we don't know what to do about this issue. Now you tell us."

The thirteenth rule: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Robin
27th July 2014, 01:58
Personally, I would rearrange this list in the following order, based on importance and causality (with my own thoughts):

1.) Education: If you control what information is given to the masses, you control their perception.

2.) Religion: If you take away proper education, you can make people believe whatever story you create.

3.) Class warfare: If you get people to believe that superiority exists (through belief in a superior god), you can convince them that it is natural for superiority to exist in other aspects of their lives (government, the 1%).

4.) Healthcare: If you make them believe that we are nothing more than biological physical bodies, then you can convince them to put anything in their bodies to control them.

5.) Poverty: If you control how money flows in an economic system, you can control how people carry out their daily lives.

6.) Debt: If you get people in a constant state of anxiety while not grounding themselves in the present, you control their ability to progress and try to change the system.

7.) Once the economic system is in place, getting people to be dependent on welfare seals the deal of total dependence, and therefore, obedience.

8.) Gun Control: If you take away the ability for people to protect themselves, then the masses of people are in your hands to manipulate without consequence.

Selene
27th July 2014, 02:00
Yanno, friends, at this point I don't really care who came up with all this advice: they're still pretty good points.

Read and reap, my friends.

cheers,

Selene