PDA

View Full Version : Pre-Birth Experiences



The One
28th October 2010, 11:49
Pre-Birth Experiences
Do We Exist Before Our Birth?

While the Near Death Experience explores where we go after death, the Pre-Birth Experience examines where we lived before we were born. Like the NDE, the PBE seems to be happening more frequently. It is as though mankind is undergoing a spiritual renaissance to counterbalance the increase in chaos and despair in the world. This observation is made by Sarah Hinze in a book entitled Coming From the Light (p; 167).

In Jer. 1:5, God says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." This is a biblical implication that we existed in some form before we were born. There are numerous non-scriptural references to the pre-existence of our souls. Here is a sampling :

"With the soul of Adam, the souls of all the generations of man were created. B. Chagiga 2B (ancient text).

"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts.

"Three groups of people lived in every village. First were those you could see-walking around, eating, sleeping, and working. Second were the ancestors. The third group of people...are those waiting to be born." Roots, Alex Haley.

"We are all eternal spirits who lived in a heavenly realm of light and beauty before coming to earth." Embraced by the Light.

Near-death experiences report a sense of 'returning home' when their spirit temporarily crosses to the other side. One cannot 'return to' if one has not 'come from.' What is this place we 'return to'? The PBE provides evidence that we 'come from' the same place we 'return to'. In other words, we come from the Light and we return to the Light." Coming From the Light, p. 168.

Origen, "the most prominent of the church fathers with the possible exception of Augustine," taught the pre-existence of the soul. (Encyclopedia Britannica) In AD 553, the Emperor Justinian convinced the pope to convene the Council of Constantinople which condemned the ideas of Origen. Those who continued to believe in pre-existence and rebirth were persecuted, and this campaign of slaughter effectively forced the concept underground. Had it not been for the council, the Christian Church might well have been teaching pre-existence and rebirth as a basic doctrine all these years.

Dale
28th October 2010, 12:09
"Jesus said, 'If they say to you, From where have you originated? say to them, 'We have come from the Light, where the Light has originated through itself.'" The Book of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Texts.

A great quote! I've always felt that upon death, we return to wherever we originated from. I suppose we've commonly called this place "Heaven" throughout the ages. But it also does seem the spirit gets quite restless there, and is always eager to begin a new journey somewhere in these vast cosmos. The eastern teachings of reincarnation reflect this aspect of the soul.

Fredkc
28th October 2010, 14:12
Gospel of Thomas here (http://fredsitelive.com/books/religion/Thomas.htm).

Verse 50. Yeshúa says: If they say to you: 'From whence do you come?', say to them: 'We have come from the Light, the place where the Light has originated thru himself--he stood and he revealed himself in their imagery.' If they say to you: 'Who are you?', say: 'We are his Sons and we are the chosen of the Living Father.' If they ask you: 'What is the sign of your Father in you?', say to them: 'It is movement with repose.'

Fred

truthseekerdan
28th October 2010, 15:46
If you bring forth that which you
have within you, it will save you.
If you do not, it will destroy you.

- The Gospel of Thomas

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Rk49RiFLzYE/SgjATc9fSMI/AAAAAAAABUc/98Qxhct3V2g/s400/LOVE.jpg