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Cidersomerset
28th October 2014, 16:55
The 500 Year Old Map that Shatters the Official History of the Human Race

Tuesday 28th October 2014 at 07:17 By david-icke

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Ancient Maps Proof of Lost Civilization - Graham Hancock

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Published on 2 Oct 2012

David Wilcock interviews Graham Hancock.
I highly recommend watching the full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNEVvHgOOY



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WakingTimes October 22, 2014

The 500 Year Old Map that Shatters the Official History of the Human Race
Buck Rogers, Staff Writer

Waking Times

‘If conventional wisdom on the history of the human race is correct, then human
civilization is not old enough, nor was it advanced enough, to account for many of the
mysterious monolithic and archeological sites around the world. Places like Gobekli Tepe
in Turkey, the Bosnian Pyramids, and Adam’s Calendar in South Africa, beg the same
question: if human civilization is supposedly not old enough to have created all of these
sites, then who, or what, had the capacity to create so many elaborate structures
around the globe?

It is clear that our understanding of our own history is incomplete, and there is plenty of
credible evidence pointing to the existence of intelligent and civilized cultures on Earth
long before the first human cultures emerged from the Middle East around 4000BC. The
Admiral Piri Reis world map of 1513 is part of the emerging more complete story of our
history, one that challenges mainstream thinking in big ways.’

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Mapmaking is a complex and civilized task, thought to have emerged around 1000BC
with the Babylonian clay tablets. Antarctica was officially first sighted by a Russian
expedition in 1820 and is entirely covered in ice caps thought to have formed around 34-
45 million years ago. Antarctica, therefore, should not be seen on any map prior to
1820, and all sighted maps of Antarctica should contain the polar ice caps, which are
supposedly millions of years old.


A world map made by Ottoman cartographer and military admiral, Piri Reis, casts some
doubt on what we think we know about ancient civilization.

The Piri Reis map, which focuses on Western Africa, the East Coast of South America,
and the North Coast of Antarctica, features the details of a coastline that many
historians and geologists believe represents Queen Maud Land, that is, Antarctica.
Remarkably, as represented in this map, the frigid continent was not covered in ice
caps, but, rather, with dense vegetation. How could a map drawn in 1513 feature a
continent that wasn’t discovered until 1820? And if the continent had in fact been
discovered by one of the civilizations known to have emerged after 4000BC, why were
the ice caps not on the map?

The paradoxes presented by the map were of little significance to the world until Charles
Hapgood, a history professor from New Hampshire, USA, claimed that the information in
the Piri Reis map supported a different view of geology and ancient history. Hapgood
believed that the map verified his global geological theory, which explains how portions
of Antarctica could have remained ice-free until 4000BC.

Hapgood’s presentation is so convincing that even famed theoretical physicist and
philosopher Albert Einstein wrote the following supportive forward to a book that Hapgood wrote in 1953:


“His idea is original, of great simplicity, and – if it continues to prove itself – of great
importance to everything that is related to the history of the Earth’s surface.” -Albert Einstein

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Unquestionably not a hoax, the map is certifiably authentic, but the information on
the map is of mysterious origin. Piri Reis himself notes that the map was drawn
from information sourced from other, older maps, charts and logs, many of which,
Hapgood suggests, may have been copied and transcribed repeatedly since before
the destruction of the Library of Alexandria in Egypt, which wiped out the literature
of antiquity and vast cultural knowledge.

This hypothesis opens the door to the possibility that some forgotten ancient civilization
had the capacity to voyage to the Antarctic, charting the earth, with the technology to
make maps, sometime before the ice caps formed. A significant departure from our
present understanding of our history.

The absence of the ice caps in the Piri Reis map is peculiar, and in 1960 Hapgood
brought his theories on this to the attention of the United States Air Force. Hapgood
asked, among other things, if the shape of the continent, as it appeared on the Piri Reis
map, was at all similar to the shape of the continent under the ice, as revealed by
recent Air Force testing of seismic data on the continent. Their answer was astonishing:


“…the geographical detail shown in the lower part of the map agrees very remarkably
with the results of the seismic profile made across the top of the ice-cap by the Swedish-
British Antarctic Expedition of 1949.

This indicates the coastline had been mapped before it was covered by the ice-cap.

The ice-cap in this region is now about a mile thick.

We have no idea how the data on this map can be reconciled with the supposed state of
geographical knowledge in 1513.

Harold Z. Ohlmeyer
Lt. Colonel, USAF
Commander”

[Fingerprints of the Gods]
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If Hapgood’s theory has merit, as even Einstein believed, then there was a period of
time from around 13000BC to 6000BC when Antarctica was located more closely to the
equator and was more tropical in climate, much like parts of South America. This was
caused by a sudden shift of the earth’s entire lithosphere, he theorized, simultaneously
moving all of the continents into their present position, a much different view than the
widely accepted explanation offered the plate tectonics theory.

If Antarctica had indeed been further North then than it presently is, and was not
covered in ice only as recently as 6000BC, then who was around back then that could
have mapped it, long before any known civilizations? And who could have done so long
before the advent of the marine chronometer in the 18th century, which finally solved
the problem of accurately tracking longitude on the high seas?

Had the entire Earth already been mapped by 4000BC, by a civilization that has been
forgotten, as analysis of the Piri Reis map and the theories of Charles Hapgood suggest?


Read more: The 500 Year Old Map that Shatters the Official History of the Human Race

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/10/22/500-year-old-map-shatters-official-history-human-race/


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Cidersomerset
28th October 2014, 17:57
This is a mainstream presentation in London by an academic and cartography expert
who narrates a slide show and presents the possible source maps of the Piri Reis
map.As would be expected his 'slags off' the pseudo researchers and idiots and
charlatans, basically grouping everyone who is not a scholar or academic
expert......Yawn !!...Though after pointing out that it shows the coastline of
Antarctica is on the map he just says prove it is accurate , then carries on after
dismissing those who says it possible proof of a earlier seafaring civilisation.

He does show some good middleages and classical maps. Other than that he
says nothing to tell me other theories are not possible especially Graham Hancocks.

Not that mainstream science have never and still don't stoop to such shenanigans.
The slide show presentation starts aprox 20 mins in.......


THE 500TH ANNIVERSARY OF PIRI REIS MAP OF 1513 AND THE UNESCO YEAR OF PIRI REIS 2013 HD


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Published on 21 Jul 2013


Cartographic craftsmanship from the Age of Discovery:
modern map and maritime experts celebrate at
Greenwich the superb contribution of Ottoman Admiral

Cidersomerset
28th October 2014, 18:57
As with Brian Cox and other academics they show a lack of imagination. That's
a product of science and the education system of the 19th 20th 21th century.
Which is fine to a degree but obviously the balance of thinking is warped in one
version of reality imo .....This is not to say Graham is right but along with much
we have learn't from alternate sources a pre ice age lost civilisation seems more
possible as even mainstream are slowly pushing civilisation back with the discovery
of sites like Gobekli Tepi. Graham explains in the clip below that he does not claim
the Piri Ries map is totally accurate but is close enough to ask more questions ....



Mystery Of The Ancient Maps ~ Graham Hancock

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Published on 23 Apr 2012


At the Monuments to Life Conference Graham Hancock discusses the confounding
mystery of maps drawn from ancient maps that shows features our modern culture had yet to discover

ketikoti
4th April 2016, 13:26
If you want to know why most scientists don't think the Piri Reis map is accurately depicting Antartica, please take note of the following article by Prof. Steven Dutch of the University of Wisonsin.
I found this article (http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/PiriRies.HTM) e very convincing and I regard the "Piri Reis map anomaly" as debunked.

Cidersomerset
4th April 2016, 17:14
I'm not as convinced but it is plausible as the Spanish , Portuguese
Venetian , Genoese and Ottoman Empire navies were in conflict with each
other regularly culminating in the Battle of Lapanto. These battles were fought
after the map was collated , but naval skirmishes had been going on for centuries
particularly with the Barbary pirates and other muslim states....

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The Ottoman Naval Battle Victory Of Preveza In 1538

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Published on 16 Dec 2013

The naval Battle of Preveza took place on 28 September 1538 near Preveza in
northwestern Greece between an Ottoman fleet and that of a Christian alliance
assembled by Pope Paul III in which the Ottoman fleet decisively defeated the allies.

In 1537, commanding a large Ottoman fleet, Hayreddin Barbarossa captured a number
of Aegean and Ionian islands belonging to the Republic of Venice, namely Syros, Aegina,
Ios, Paros, Tinos, Karpathos, Kasos and Naxos, thus annexing the Duchy of Naxos to the
Ottoman Empire. He then besieged the Venetian stronghold of Corfu and ravaged the
Spanish-held Calabrian coast in southern Italy.

In the face of this threat, Pope Paul III succeeded in February 1538 in assembling a
''Holy League'', comprising the Papacy, Spain, the Republic of Genoa, the Republic of
Venice and the Knights of Malta, to confront Barbarossa.

Barbarossa's fleet that summer numbered 122 galleys and galliots. That of the Holy
League comprised 157 galleys (36 papal galleys, 61 Genoese, 50 Spanish and 10 sent
by the Knights Hospitaller). Andrea Doria, the Genoese admiral in the service of
Emperor Charles V was in overall command.

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Battle Of Lepanto - First Major Defeat For The Ottoman Empire

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Published on 15 Dec 2013

The Battle of Lepanto took place on 7 October 1571 when a fleet of the Holy
League, a coalition of southern European Catholic maritime states, decisively
defeated the main fleet of the Ottoman Empire in five hours of fighting on the
northern edge of the Gulf of Corinth, off western Greece. The Ottoman forces
sailing westwards from their naval station in Lepanto met the Holy League forces,
which had come from Messina, Sicily, where they had previously gathered. The
victory of the Holy League prevented the Ottoman Empire expanding further along
the European side of the Mediterranean. Lepanto was the last major naval battle in
the Mediterranean fought entirely between galleys and has been assigned great
symbolic importance by Catholic and other historians. Some historians argue that
Turkish victory could have led to Western Europe being overrun.

The Christian coalition had been promoted by Pope Pius V to rescue the Venetian
colony of Famagusta, on the island of Cyprus, which was being besieged by the
Turks in early 1571 subsequent to the fall of Nicosia and other Venetian
possessions in Cyprus in the course of 1570.





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Let's Hear it for Piri Reis

For 1513, this map shows an astonishing amount of detail. The notes on the map explain
that the map was synthesized from about 20 maps, many of which were captured from
Spanish and Portuguese ships in the Mediterranean. It was also supplemented by accounts
given by captured Spanish and Portuguese sailors.

Not a map from some ancient Atlantean civilization, not a map created by extraterrestrials,
but a first class piece of naval intelligence. Considering that it was created by a sailor whose
country never participated in the age of exploration, and that it's drawn wholly from second
-hand sources, it's an astonishing piece of work. It seems to contain up-to-the-minute details
derived from enemy maps, many of which would have been tightly-guarded secrets.

There's a class of crank that hates the idea that other people might have real accomplishments,
because they never accomplish anything themselves. So Shakespeare didn't write his plays,
other people did; Robert Peary didn't reach the North Pole as he claimed, and so on. And
Piri Reis wasn't a gifted admiral and good intelligence analyst, but had to get help from ancient
lost documents. Get a life, folks.


http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/PiriRies.HTM

Ewan
4th April 2016, 20:52
If you want to know why most scientists don't think the Piri Reis map is accurately depicting Antartica, please take note of the following article by Prof. Steven Dutch of the University of Wisonsin.
I found this article (http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/PiriRies.HTM) e very convincing and I regard the "Piri Reis map anomaly" as debunked.

Prof. Steven Dutch was rather fond of disparaging remarks and even ad-hominem attacks I thought. It was interesting though.