Is this Holy Quran text of Jesus (Surat An Nisa' 4: 157) saying his cloned was crucified?

[Tangri]

4: 157
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

and condemned Sons of Israel for their banker position

4:161
And [for] their taking of usury while they had been forbidden from it, and their consuming of the people's wealth unjustly. And we have prepared for the disbelievers among them a painful punishment.

4:46
Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Ra'ina," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us [to understand]," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.

http://quran.com/4

[Tangri]

Surat El An'am
6:100
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without knowledge. Exalted is He and high above what they describe.

[Lifebringer]

Wow, that's why they won't translate the Torah in English. You know the Quran was written to compare what would be changed in the Bible, because the Creator knew they would corrupt the book of Christ. So many messages written on the walls, and books hidden, and now we see that they call Israelites Hebrews, and the banker usury Jews, Jews. The same who robbed the people on the Sabbath's and Holy days selling their wares on the day of worship. Wow. So the Holy God wants "fair dealings" amongst the people, and we all know, that they've been pillaging the villagers for a very long time. "A very painful punishment." Hmmm...now I know who the bunkers are for.:jaw:

[Atlas]

Seven parallel translations in English for verse (4:157):

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.

Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.

Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

Arberry: and for their saying, 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God' -- yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who are at variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him; they have no knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they slew him not of a certainty -- no indeed;

Source: http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=157

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[Tangri]

Wow, that's why they won't translate the Torah in English. You know the Quran was written to compare what would be changed in the Bible, because the Creator knew they would corrupt the book of Christ. So many messages written on the walls, and books hidden, and now we see that they call Israelites Hebrews, and the banker usury Jews, Jews. The same who robbed the people on the Sabbath's and Holy days selling their wares on the day of worship. Wow. So the Holy God wants "fair dealings" amongst the people, and we all know, that they've been pillaging the villagers for a very long time. "A very painful punishment." Hmmm...now I know who the bunkers are for.:jaw:

There is english translated Torah

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_Written_Law.html

I read tree of them Torah, Bible(old testement) Quran.

Tree of book came for sons of Isreal' Hebrews. Tree prophets were Hebrew.
Moses, Jesus, Muhammed.

Some(most) of Hebrew were eagerly acted as a today's bankers. Making money from money without bodily worked.
Jesus was a threat with no commission alowings.
Muhammed offered( "Zekad") to give %10 of whealt to the poor each year.

Torah did forbide some food(pork, shellfish, alchol)
Bible brought relieve on that restriction
Quran brought back same restriction because of wrong practising. and it was a reminder of Torah.
I don't understand why Jews against the Quran and Islam. Because Quran is reminder of the original Torah, and almost every must is the same.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Jesus is also said to have been substituted on the cross in some texts from the Nag Hammadi library and/or some other ancient "Gnostic" sources. I think one of these even has Judas taking his place. Another one has Jesus above the double laughing about how everyone thinks its him but it's not.

Pretty interesting. Thanks for posting.