Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq

[Micjer]

Very graphic. May be disturbing to some viewers.


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To the guys in the helicoptors this is just a video game to them. Can we shoot? Can we shoot?

To the innocent journalists on the street it was no video game. Little wonder there is so much hatred toward the US army. I hope justice pervails.

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[Vidya Moksha]

i posted this yesterday in the video section, but no matter.. my reply here is to say that this video just hit the main BBC news site :eek: what does that tell us?

[Micjer]

Sorry I did a search but nothing came up. The site is so slow at times it is hard to log on at times to keep up to posts.

This is in msm in Canada also. I do hope justice prevails as it is sickening to see the innocent attacked, especially the children. What is worse is the lack of caring of the soldiers even after the assault. Driving over the dead body was a nice touch.

[Vidya Moksha]

No worries, many more people viwed it in this main section anyway, quite telling that most spiritual seekers cant even be bothered to look deeper into a forum like this, most responses are from the 'latest; posts viewed on the right hand side

[MargueriteBee]

When this was first posted I viewed it in Youtube and there were 439 views, now there are almost 2,8000,000 views.

[sunnyrap]

It is shocking to the extreme what the military people have been made inured to. Even sadder is that material like this is inflaming to the extreme and can add even more damage to an already bad situation by putting the watchers in the same pit with the participants. IMO, best response is to pray for the swift release of all victims, pray that the soldiers be given a profound realization of what they are agreeing to + participating in and intend that a true shift in consciousness occur within and around them. I've seen applied intention make huge changes. Better that than creating great tidal waves of anger towards a military that has already been badly manipulated and mislead. May be hard to see from material like this, but they have been victimized as well.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Disturbing.

He dose not know how the little girl in the van was injured!!!

He can not understand that they used massive fire power from a helicopter to kill people!!!

These children/soldiers are completely brainwashed!!!

Into murdering other humans!!! and destroying earth!!!

Not to mention the entire false flag operation that got them there!!!

And the extraterrestrial cover up that goes with that story!!!

THIS IS A PURE DISGRACE TO HUMANITY!!!

PEACE NOW! JT!

[SteveX]

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I do hope justice prevails as it is sickening to see the innocent attacked, especially the children. What is worse is the lack of caring of the soldiers even after the assault. Driving over the dead body was a nice touch.

This was from 2007. They cleared everyone of all charges. :confused:

Clearly the people in the van were un-armed and trying to help the wounded guy. That for me was trigger-happy murder.

As for the initial group.... they had an RPG. For me that’s good cause to shoot and if you’re a reporter standing with a guy with an RPG expect to be considered a combatant. How’s anyone to know.

Had they not fired and the reporter got some photos of an RPG or RPG shell IED attack with possible US casualties, would it be fair to charge the reporter for being complicit by not warning the US troops?

The van though....Jesus. That was just insane.

[Vidya Moksha]

[QUOTE=SteveX;7346
As for the initial group.... they had an RPG. For me that’s good cause to shoot and if you’re a reporter standing with a guy with an RPG expect to be considered a combatant. How’s anyone to know.

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i believe the rpg was a telephoto lens on the camera, they were unarmed.

[Micjer]

The msm talk show I listened to yesterday said it turned out to be only a camera also.

The awful thing about this is that this happened to be on video and was leaked out so we all could see reality of this, but how many more cases like this have gone on with no video? I am sure that there has been many more incidents of innocent civilians murdered that is being kept under wraps.

It is important for this to get out so the veil can be lifted. These soldiers may be brainwashed, but perhaps this may wake up others to what is going on over there.

[Jenny]

It is not happenig overthere...

It happens when boys are trained at home..with wargames..virtual.
They are taught to dissociate from whatever they do or see.

When in real life combat they have the " right" attitude.

They commit warcrimes without hesitation.

[avid]

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/39297/

Comcast can now legally shut down downloads
By: marinara Tuesday April 6, 2010 12:04 pm
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Yesterday was a big day for independent media. We saw the release of gun camera footage, which showed how US troops killed an Iraqi journalist after mistaking a camera for an assault weapon.

Today was a big day for the mainstream media, as the US Court of appeals dissolved some FCC internet regulations protecting peer to peer networking.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1U2jZF/www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/04/fcc_net_neutrality_ruling.html?ft=1&f=103943429/r:t
and

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/net-neutrality-us-court-r_n_526972.html

Is it just a coincidence that yesterday’s leak on P2P preceded today’s legal loss for P2P users? Of course not.

Let’s look at the legal decision.
The particular problem for Comcast is that Bittorrent users were using the network. That is, they were filling up the tubes with stuff that made comcast no money at all. Comcast then shut off the downloads (secretly, they wouldn’t admit to it) Later on, users petitioned the FCC to stop Comcast from shutting down peer to peer networking, in particular, bittorrent downloads. Today’s Court ruling by the US court of appeals says that the FCC has no authority to regulate Comcast in these instances. A big loss for anyone who wants to download peer to peer. Like Wikileaks users.

Incredible!:(

[Micjer]

That is incredible, but really not surprising.

I wonder can the rest of the world watch, while not allowed in the US? i.e. censorship

[Thunderbird]

question is: who released it and WHY?

if I wanted to incite rebllion and give a pretext for militarizing under Northcom I would want to piss the people off enough to get them to do something stupid....or justify a false flag.

word is, these videos were leaked from the pentagon.

[viking]

Bloody awful ... what is the world coming to?? Let her rip!!!!

viking

[tron]

watching this makes me realize that with the right manipulation this could be US citizens killing US citizens.

if firearms are made illegal through martial law and your holding one (or a camera) then you (and your family apparently) are a target.
as for me im ready to die weaponless with arms open in refusal to fight back.
i feel this is the way out of this lifetime loop.

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I WISH PEACE FOR YOU ALL.

[Swami]

Wikileaks may not be what you think it is...


Please note that I am only speculating here based on my recent personal experience.

I have some material that I may be interested in having published, and made public at some point. After seeing the successful publishing of the recent Iraq video I thought this could be an opportunity I hadn't considered.

I can't discus that material now, so please don't ask.

Using s secure computer at a secure location I used this contact/submission form...

secure.wikileaks.org...

I sent two files, a very brief edited video, and a text file.

Almost immediately the computer I was using froze up, and after giving up was forced to shut down.

Then I began to wonder, the recent video release, everything we know about wikileaks... And what we don't know.

What if this is all a scam to get people who may have sensitive or secret information to send it in?

They couldn't have set a better trap, if that is the case.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread559051/pg1

[Swami]

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[Majorion]

Not at all surprising friends.

It is a reflection of the fact; the U.S are not even meant to be there, or in Afghanistan either.

[Micjer]

Interesting post Swami. Maybe people should register all of their weapons at the same time. Questioning everything is good.

How else could it have been released if it wasn't from the pentagon. It was a military video, not from a reporter or civillian.

hmmmm,

[SteveX]

i believe the rpg was a telephoto lens on the camera, they were unarmed.

My mistake then. I was going off what the ground troop said when he stated a body is laying on a RPG.

I hope they have fine-tuned the rules for this type of engagement. Such an awful ego fuelled waist of life.

[5thElement]

MSM coverage of this:
"Washington – The US military has been warily watching for several years the group that released on Monday a graphic video showing a US helicopter apparently killing two Iraqi journalists from Reuters in a Baghdad suburb in 2007."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100406/ts_csm/292877

"We're looking at a reinvestigation because of a question of the rules of engagement. Were all the actions that are depicted on that video in parallel with the rules of engagement in effect at the time?" the military official said."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100407/ts_nm/us_iraq_usa_journalists

Two from Newsweek
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235995
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235937

"But the tables were turned on Monday, when WikiLeaks posted a video that showed the U.S. military in a less favorable light."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1978017,00.html#ixzz0kRxcX6bW

5th

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1978017,00.html

[5thElement]

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double post

[Swami]

Whistleblowers on US ‘massacre’ fear CIA stalkers


Activists behind a website dedicated to revealing secret documents have complained of harassment by police and intelligence services as they prepare to release a video showing an American attack in which 97 civilians were killed in Afghanistan.

Julian Assange, one of the founders of Wikileaks, has claimed that a restaurant where the group met in Reykjavic, the capital of Iceland, came under surveillance in March and one of the group’s volunteers was detained for 21 hours by police.

Assange, an Australian, says he was followed on a flight from Reykjavik to Copenhagen by two American agents. The group has riled governments by publishing documents leaked by whistleblowers.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7094234.ece

[lisa]

Thanks Swami, wonder why they let this spread on the main media...

[Gita]

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US Soldier Ordered to Leave Children Behind

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20101/pirhayati20100409052536670.jpg

'A US soldier who tried to help injured Iraqi civilians after a US apache strike says his superior ordered him not to tend to the injured children on the scene. Ethan McCord, a US infantry soldier, was one of the six troopers who were dispatched to the scene after the apache helicopters killed a dozen people, including two Reuters staff, in Baghdad.

"When I came on the scene I saw the bodies, I could hear a child crying, so the crying was coming from the van so I immediately went up to the van and when I looked inside I saw a girl who's about three years of age, she had a belly wound, and glass in her eyes and in her hair," McCord told Press TV in an exclusive interview on Sunday. "The team leader who was standing there told me I needed to stop worrying about these mother****ing kids," said McCord, a father of two.'

Read more: US Soldier Ordered to Leave Children Behind (http://www.presstv.ir/)


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