I think the Maya Knew about Computers (8:5!)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Preface: I don't usually preface my threads with saying "oh this is so important" but this is likely one of those 1/1000 posts of mine that actually has something important in it, something backed by archaeological evidence, please read!



Here's a picture of the Mayan death god Camazotz,
showing the 8/5 ratio in the stonecarving:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Maya-Maske.jpg/1280px-Maya-Maske.jpg

on the left side of the image you can see a gear with 8 teeth.
on the right side is a gear with 5 teeth.
showing any noob the 8:5 ratio,


8:5
16:10, also known as 8:5, is an aspect ratio mostly used for computer displays and tablet computers. The width of the display is 1.6 times its height. This ratio is close to the golden ratio " " which is approximately 1.618.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camazotz


In Maya mythology, Camazotz (/kämäˈsots/) (alternate spellings Cama-Zotz, Sotz, Zotz) was a bat god. Camazotz means "death bat" in the K'iche' language. In Mesoamerica the bat was associated with night, death, and sacrifice.[1]




see in popular culture: Johnny Depp in Transcendence:

http://imageserver.moviepilot.com/transcendence-2014-johnny-depp-hd-wallpaper-transcendence-review-johnny-depp-the-singularity.webp?width=640&height=360

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/04/17/transcendence-review-johnny-depp-the-singularity-1350989?lt_source=external,manual


they knew when we'd birth AI and when approximately to mark the beginning of the days of darkness.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/14/quantum-computers-public-encryption

Powerful quantum computers move a step closer to reality
A research team from Australia has pushed quantum computers closer to fruition, but a former NSA director warns that the technology could break encryption


http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/10/14/1413288013547/fad676b3-81cd-424d-9268-1d6ae0caa402-1020x612.jpeg

Researchers at the University of New South Wales have pushed quantum computers a step closer to reality, which one former NSA technical director says calls for a rethink in how the whole security of the internet is managed.

The Australian researchers claim to have developed two new types of quantum bits, or “qubits”, that can perform operations with accuracy above 99%.

Where traditional computers perform their calculations in binary – using 1s and 0s – quantum computers exploit the odd characteristics of the quantum state of particles at the atomic scale.

At their heart, they put the qubits into a state of “superposition” where, like Schrödinger’s famous cat, their value isn’t definitely 1 nor 0, but both at the same time. To “solve” a calculation, the quantum state is ended, so that the qubits take a classic 1 or 0 value. Setting the quantum states and superposition up correctly should mean a quantum computer will reach the same answer as a normal one.



Revelation 8:5

And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

8:6

And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.


Revelation 16:10-16King James Version (KJV)

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.


i find it creepy that the rev 10:16 is so apt considering Johnny Depp's movie described what some people might call the Beast of Revelation.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_%282014_film%29

In his virtual form, and with Evelyn's help, Will uses his new-found vast intelligence to build a technological utopia in a remote desert town called Brightwood, where he spearheads the development of groundbreaking new technologies in the fields of medicine, energy, biology and nanotechnology. But even Evelyn begins to grow fearful of Will's motives when he displays the ability to remotely connect to and control people's minds after they have been subjected to his nano-particles.

FBI agent Donald Buchanan (Cillian Murphy), with the help of government scientist Joseph Tagger (Morgan Freeman), prepares to stop the technological sentient entity from spreading. As Will has spread his influence to all the networked computer technology in the world, R.I.F.T. develops a computer virus with the purpose of deleting Will's source code, killing him and, as an unfortunate side effect, destroying technological civilization. All the characters, Bree, Max, Tagger, Evelyn, and even Will Caster himself, are forced to choose between uploading the virus or risking assimilation into Will's Transcendence, which holds the promise of ending pollution, disease, and human mortality.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/LG_L194WT-SF_LCD_monitor.jpg/220px-LG_L194WT-SF_LCD_monitor.jpg



A 19-inch LCD monitor with an aspect ratio of 16:10.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Maya-Maske.jpg/200px-Maya-Maske.jpg


could swear the box around the god's head is almost 16:10 lol :madgrin: :painkiller:


http://oi59.tinypic.com/2le1bw7.jpg


it's very close, my measurements were off and I got 1.5 which is almost 1.6 lol



1.6:1 (8:5) (aka 16:10)
A common computer screen ratio.
1.6180:1 (16.18:10)
The golden ratio
1.6667:1 (5:3)
A common European widescreen std.; Native Super 16 mm film.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/SimilarGoldenRectangles.svg/220px-SimilarGoldenRectangles.svg.png



p.s. for the Luciferians here, you can enjoy the Right hand and Left hand path symbols worked in to the mayan art, on what we see as left hand but corresponds to the actual right hand of the god in the pic, is a turtle with the SUn cross/compass on his back, navigation, light, the sun wheel, and 4/8, rational nice stuff, lol


and then on the Left (our right his left lol) you can see the upside down 5 pointed gear or star, and the black Jaguar head,

which is important in the cults of the times. as evidenced in the film "apocalypto" by Mel Gibson.


p.p.s a friend said, it's ironic that Apocalypto and also Transcendence didn't do well due to box office and bad critics, but personally i think they are two of the most important films of our time, sadly missed by most

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

silence isn't as golden as the ratio in the pictures above lol

tell me what u think NAO! :D


p.s. here's another gem for you occulty types:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Golden_ratio_line.svg/220px-Golden_ratio_line.svg.png

http://www.mesopotamiangods.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/3a-Ashur-in-his-flying-disc-300x114.gif



the assyrian golden ratio



let he who has wisdom see,
that the thing most esteemed by the peoples of the east,
the prince of the east,
was the thing most feared perhaps by the peoples of the west.

one man's light is another man's night. :pray:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Detail_of_antlered_figure_on_the_Gundestrup_Cauldron.jpg

p.p.s. again, a Celtic god mirroring the images seen in the Mayan carving,
Cernunnos demonstrating the right hand and left hand paths,

the orderly nice friendly grass eating animals are on his right hand near the sun disc, the stag and oxen are both facing him,
whereas on the other side (left hand) he holds a snake and there are three carnivores (unclean chaos beasts lol) facing many directions.

interesting huh?


right and left hand, order and chaos.

and probably some celtic math that i'm fat too dense to see.:blabla:


the mayan pic:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Maya-Maske.jpg/1280px-Maya-Maske.jpg


p.s. i'm likely wrong but the position of cernunnos's legs could denote some numbers, like clock hands and shiva's limbs; the craftsman might not have exactly duplicated what he was told.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Mathematicians since Euclid have studied the properties of the golden ratio, including its appearance in the dimensions of a regular pentagon and in a golden rectangle, which may be cut into a square and a smaller rectangle with the same aspect ratio. The golden ratio has also been used to analyze the proportions of natural objects as well as man-made systems such as financial markets, in some cases based on dubious fits to data.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio



rectangle, check; 5-pointed star/gear pentagon/gram reference, check

Maya knew the golden ratio


The golden ratio also is called the golden mean or golden section (Latin: sectio aurea).[1][2][3] Other names include extreme and mean ratio,[4] medial section, divine proportion, divine section (Latin: sectio divina), golden proportion, golden cut,[5] and golden number.[6][7][8]




http://www.storyofmathematics.com/mayan.html

http://www.storyofmathematics.com/images/arrow.gif

MAYAN MATHEMATICS


The Mayan civilisation had settled in the region of Central America from about 2000 BC, although the so-called Classic Period stretches from about 250 AD to 900 AD. At its peak, it was one of the most densely populated and culturally dynamic societies in the world.

The importance of astronomy and calendar calculations in Mayan society required mathematics, and the Maya constructed quite early a very sophisticated number system, possibly more advanced than any other in the world at the time (although the dating of developments is quite difficult).

The Mayan and other Mesoamerican cultures used a vigesimal number system based on base 20 (and, to some extent, base 5), probably originally developed from counting on fingers and toes. The numerals consisted of only three symbols: zero, represented as a shell shape; one, a dot; and five, a bar. Thus, addition and subtraction was a relatively simple matter of adding up dots and bars. After the number 19, larger numbers were written in a kind of vertical place value format using powers of 20: 1, 20, 400, 8000, 160000, etc (see image above), although in their calendar calculations they gave the third position a value of 360 instead of 400 (higher positions revert to multiples of 20).

The pre-classic Maya and their neighbours had independently developed the concept of zero by at least as early as 36 BC, and we have evidence of their working with sums up to the hundreds of millions, and with dates so large it took several lines just to represent them. Despite not possessing the concept of a fraction, they produced extremely accurate astronomical observations using no instruments other than sticks, and were able to measure the length of the solar year to a far higher degree of accuracy than that used in Europe (their calculations produced 365.242 days, compared to the modern value of 365.242198), as well as the length of the lunar month (their estimate was 29.5308 days, compared to the modern value of 29.53059).

However, due to the geographical disconnect, Mayan and Mesoamerican mathematics had absolutely no influence on Old World (European and Asian) numbering systems and mathematics.

http://www.storyofmathematics.com/images2/mayan_numerals.gif





do we know for sure they had no:

In basic algebra, the quadratic formula is the solution of the quadratic equation. There are other ways to solve the quadratic equation instead of using the quadratic formula, such as factoring, completing the square, or graphing. Using the quadratic formula is often the most convenient way.



the fibonacci spiral

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Fibonacci_spiral_34.svg/250px-Fibonacci_spiral_34.svg.png


Giza

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Mathematical_Pyramid.svg/480px-Mathematical_Pyramid.svg.png







in conclusion i find it laughable that in some manner these people were truly disconnected,

i think NOT

[johnh]

I was playing around in a CAD/CAM program recently drawing the golden rectangle and fibonacci spiral trying to get a deeper understanding of "things" but couldn't grasp the whole essence, the gestalt of it all. Still, there is something missing, a puzzle
piece. Has to do with orderly, mathematically driven patterns and cycles, but seen from afar.

[ghostrider]

it goes right along with what the plejaren said about earth history ... their forefathers came here with high technology , the earth humans thought they were gods , their technology was like magic to the early humans ...everything we have today , we had before ... we are on the verge of repeating history with global war and degeneration back to the stone age ... all over the lust for power and control just like before ...

[Ellisa]

That was an interesting read--- of which I have to confess I understood about a quarter! However I was fascinated that the frieze, which to me looked like a votive carving, was able to give such a wealth of mathematical information, which seems sometimes to refer to computing.

The dots in the mouth (corresponding to numerals/numbers?) seemed to me to look like an abacus, or possibly the string knots of some middle American populations. Maybe it is a mathematical reference noticeboard. I hope you are wrong in your prediction ghostrider--- but things are grim at the moment, I agree.

[araucaria]

The Mayans would have known about the 8:5 ratio, if only through studying the Venus cycle of 584 days, compared with the earth cycle of 365. 584/365 = 1.6. Incidentally, the people who designed our units of measurement also knew this since 365 miles = 584 kilometers.

According to Maurice Cotterell, in the appendices to The Mayan Prophecies, the Mayans also knew about the decimal point. Maurice Chatelain in Our Cosmic Ancestors, goes much further than the Maya, and traces the world’s entire weights and measures systems to ancient knowledge with local variations dependent on local conditions (i.e. latitude and longitude).At Baalbek, for example, they used a cubit of half a meter (500 mm) and a foot of 333 mm (making a yard equal to our meter).
Hence, if latitude and longitude were known everywhere, then some off-planet, at minimum low orbital, capability seems likely and is confirmed by various means.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

The Mayans would have known about the 8:5 ratio, if only through studying the Venus cycle of 584 days, compared with the earth cycle of 365. 584/365 = 1.6. Incidentally, the people who designed our units of measurement also knew this since 365 miles = 584 kilometers.

According to Maurice Cotterell, in the appendices to The Mayan Prophecies, the Mayans also knew about the decimal point. Maurice Chatelain in Our Cosmic Ancestors, goes much further than the Maya, and traces the world’s entire weights and measures systems to ancient knowledge with local variations dependent on local conditions (i.e. latitude and longitude).At Baalbek, for example, they used a cubit of half a meter (500 mm) and a foot of 333 mm (making a yard equal to our meter).
Hence, if latitude and longitude were known everywhere, then some off-planet, at minimum low orbital, capability seems likely and is confirmed by various means.

THIS :)

thank you SO much for the Venus/Sun link, I am a dumbass for not thinking of it, seems obvious!!!!

Have you read about the Bolivian Sun Gate here on PA,
the strange metric system weights/measures that it seems to have been built with (predating it tho!),
and the odd calendar on it that either doesn't correspond to our sun at all,
but to another heavenly body here or in another system;

in fact it matches the Keppler 22B calendar exactly @@ and that freaked me out.

thanks for your knowledge,
i am humbled :)


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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Serapis_on_crocodile.png/640px-Serapis_on_crocodile.png
Greek God Serapis



Cubit-rods of wood or stone were used in Ancient Egypt. Fourteen of these were described and compared by Lepsius in 1865.[4] Flinders Petrie reported on a rod that shows a length of 520.5 mm, a few millimetres less than the Egyptian cubit.[5] A slate measuring rod was also found, divided into fractions of a Royal Cubit and dating to the time of Akhenaten.[6]

Further cubit rods have been found in the tombs of officials. Two examples are known from the tomb of Maya—the treasurer of Tutankhamun—in Saqqara. Another was found in the tomb of Kha (TT8) in Thebes. These cubits are ca 52.5 cm long and are divided into seven palms, each palm is divided into four fingers and the fingers are further subdivided.[7] Another wooden cubit rod was found in Theban tomb TT40 (Huy) bearing the throne name of Tutankhamun (Nebkheperure).[8]



Maya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(Egyptian)


Maya was an important figure during the reign of Pharaohs Tutankhamun, Ay and Horemheb of the eighteenth dynasty of Ancient Egypt.

The Overseer of the Treasury, he was also an important official and was noted for restoring the burials of several earlier Pharaohs in the Royal Necropolis in the years following the deaths of Tutankhamun and Ay. The statues of Maya and his wife Merit have been put on display in the National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden, Netherlands since 1823. He donated a shabti figure to the tomb of Tutankhamun.

Maya collected taxes and performed other services for these pharaohs, including supervising the preparation of their tombs. Maya's own tomb at Saqqara was initially partly excavated in 1843 by the archaeologist Karl Richard Lepsius,and its impressive reliefs were recorded in sketches and some of them brought to Berlin. Over time, however, the tomb was covered by sand, and its location was lost. In 1975, a joint expedition of archaeologists from the Egypt Exploration Society in London and the Rijksmuseum van Oudheden in Leiden, Netherlands began a quest to rediscover the tomb, and on February 6, 1986 they finally succeeded.[1] On this date, Professor Geoffrey T. Martin together with Dr. Jacobus Van Dijk representing the Leiden museum discovered the burial chamber of Maya's subterranean tomb at Saqqara some 18 metres (60 feet) below the surface.[1]

As Martin states:

"We were in total darkness for about 15 minutes...Suddenly we glimpsed wonderful reliefs and were extremely startled to find ourselves in the antechamber leading to a burial chamber. My colleague looked across at an inscribed wall and said, 'My God, it's Maya'."[1]
The first full season's work on Maya's burial in early 1987 indicated that his tomb is "a slightly smaller and abbreviated version of Horemheb's Saqqara tomb. An open courtyard has a collanade on its west side and doors leading to three vaulted ceilings. An inner courtyard has been found to contain reliefs of very fine quality and a statue of Maya and his wife."[1] The underground burial chambers were paved with limestone and decorated with reliefs showing Maya and his wife in front of gods.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Coud%C3%A9e-turin.jpg/1920px-Coud%C3%A9e-turin.jpg






edit: http://www.gizapyramid.com/gip2.htm


An Arab who got the shock of his life on the summit
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When you look up at the Great Pyramid, it's apex seems to be missing. It is flap topped and not pointed like a pyramid should be.

Usually, when a pyramid was constructed, the top part, or capstone (also called top-stone), was the last thing to be placed on it. It was considered the most important part of the pyramid and was made of special stone or even gold. The capstone was usually highly decorated.

An example of a capstone in the Cairo museum
Was the great pyramid always without a capstone or was it stolen, destroyed, etc? No one knows but the accounts of visitors to the pyramid from the ancient past (as far back as the time of Christ) always reported that the pyramid lacked a capstone. It is possible that it was never finished. Another possibility is that capstones were sometimes made of gold and maybe the first thing looted. The only problem is that this would be a very large capstone. If you climbed to the top, you could walk around very freely on the pyramid as many have done. It is about 30 feet in each direction. Thus, this capstone would have been huge and weighed a tremendous amount. Also on the summit you would see something that looks like a mast or flagpole. Actually it was placed there by two astronomers in 1874 to show where the Pyramid's actual apex would have been if finished.






On the back of a dollar bill, you can see a pyramid with a flat top. No one has been able to explain why the Great Pyramid would have been built without a capstone. This is an interesting story associated with a visit to the top of the great pyramid. Many tourists have climbed to the top, which is not an easy journey. One such person was Sir Siemen's, a British inventor. He climbed to the top with his Arab guides. One of his guides called attention to the fact that when he raised his hand with outspread fingers, he would hear an acute ringing noise. Siemen raised his index finger and felt a distinct prickling sensation. He also received an electric shock when he tried to drink from a bottle of wine that he had brought with him. Being a scientist, Siemen than moistened a newspaper and wrapped it around the wine bottle to convert it into a Leyden jar (an early form of a capacitor). When he held it above his head, it became charged with electricity. Sparks then were emitted from the bottle. One of the Arab guides got frightened and thought Siemen was up to some witchcraft and attempted to seize Siemen's companion. When Siemen's noticed this, he pointed the bottle towards the Arab and gave him such a shock that it knocked the Arab to the ground almost rendering him unconscious. When he recovered, he took off down the pyramid shouting loudly. What kind of natural phenomena on the top of the Great Pyramid could produce such an electo-static effect? It would be interesting to conduct additional physics experiments on the top of the Great Pyramid. http://www.gizapyramid.com/top4.jpg


http://www.geek.com/science/geek-answers-why-does-nasa-use-so-much-gold-foil-1568610/


Gold is also used in many collectors. Its state is assayed before and after a mission to determine what sorts of particles hit it while exposed to space. Even micro-electronics are often made from gold, since the element is an excellent conductor while resisting corrosion and the buildup of static electricity. Even mirrors incorporate gold at the atomic level, with laser-deposited layers or gold providing that extra bit of infrared reflectance needed to create ultra-high resolution images.
So don’t think NASA’s use of gold is wasteful. Whether it’s a gold-coated sheet of mylar or an atomically thin spray of gold on a space mirror, the element has a combination of properties like no other. Until materials science can outstrip gold’s remarkable confluence of reflectance, durability, conductivity, and physical workability, it will continue to have a shining, opulent place in human excursions into space.

[Shadowself]

I think the Maya Knew about Computers...


If they knew about computers it would need an energy source right?

Allow me to share an interesting note:

MAYAN

Molecular Array of Yes And Not


Molecular DNA logic gates:

https://digamma.cs.unm.edu/wiki/bin/view/McogPublicWeb/MolecularLogicGates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_logic_gate


DNA computing makes it's own energy source:

http://nanotechweb.org/cws/article/tech/17022

Coincidence...Yes or Not? Where did the Mayan get that name? :eek:


Interesting no?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate

http://www.nextnature.net/2009/10/computer-versus-bacteria/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAYA-II

[araucaria]

Where did the Mayan get that name? :eek:
As I recall, the name means ‘What is it?’ Something they said a lot when the Spaniards first arrived. It happens now and again. The French word for a window in a gate is vasistas, from the German ‘was ist das?’, the question you would get ask when approaching it. Similarly, the Hebrews in the desert finding bread from heaven said, ‘Manna?’ I am not making this up.

[Shadowself]

Where did the Mayan get that name? :eek:
As I recall, the name means ‘What is it?’ Something they said a lot when the Spaniards first arrived. It happens now and again. The French word for a window in a gate is vasistas, from the German ‘was ist das?’, the question you would get ask when approaching it. Similarly, the Hebrews in the desert finding bread from heaven said, ‘Manna?’ I am not making this up.


Thank you. That is an interesting description of the word to describe the Mayan...


..."what is it?" is Spanish is "Qué es?" So how does that relate to Mayan? As a name? I'm asking because I'm a bit confused at your description.

I did happen to find two different view on the Adjective Mayan to describe the Maya people.

http://www.osea-cite.org/program/maya_or_mayans.php

http://www.belize.com/maya-or-mayan

[araucaria]

Thank you. That is an interesting description of the word to describe the Mayan...


..."what is it?" is Spanish is "Qué es?" So how does that relate to Mayan? As a name? I'm asking because I'm a bit confused at your description.

I did happen to find two different view on the Adjective Mayan to describe the Maya people.

http://www.osea-cite.org/program/maya_or_mayans.php

http://www.belize.com/maya-or-mayan
Sorry: 'maya' was the Mayan word for 'what is it?', not the Spanish.