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Micjer
7th April 2010, 17:30
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'Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521, National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the registry, to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that; (A) is or has been used in or on a patient; (B) is a class III device; or a class II device that is implantable."

In real world speak, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn't, allowed medical care in their country.'

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18512


The link doesn't work any more

Micjer
7th April 2010, 18:47
Upon researching this may be way overblown.


There are a few things that cause concern in the health care reform, but being forced to have a microchip implanted in you is not one of them. The section you are referring to has nothing to do with implanting chips in people. Clearly, you don't even understand what a Class II and Class III medical device is. This section of the bill clarifies what was put into place under the Safe Medical Devices act of 1990. It was then modified in 1997 as the Food and Drug Administration Modernization Act was signed.

Briefly, a Class III medical device is a device that is life-sustaining or life-supporting (like a pacemaker or a heart valve). A Class II device is a device that requires additional qualification but not as much as a Class III device (like an X-ray machine).

It's best to do some research and have an idea of what you're talking about. People, on both sides of the aisle, need to quit listening to the scare tactics of media blow-hards.

Again, this has nothing to do with sticking microchips in people. The purpose is to have proper records and reporting of malfunctioning Class II and Class III medical devices. Not so scary is it?

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_171913.asp



Class III: General Controls and Premarket Approval
A Class III device is one for which insufficient information exists to assure safety and effectiveness solely through the general or special controls sufficient for Class I or Class II devices. Such a device needs premarket approval, a scientific review to ensure the device's safety and effectiveness, in addition to the general controls of Class I. Class III devices are described as those for which "insufficient information exists to determine that general controls are sufficient to provide reasonable assurance of its safety and effectiveness or that application of special controls ... would provide such assurance and if, in addition, the device is life-supporting or life-sustaining, or for a use which is of substantial importance in preventing impairment of human health, or if the device presents a potential unreasonable risk of illness or injury."[3]

Examples of Class III devices which require a premarket approval include replacement heart valves, silicone gel-filled breast implants, implanted cerebral stimulators, implantable pacemaker pulse generators and endosseous (intra-bone) implants (with the exception of root-form endosseous dental implants which were recently reclassified as Class II).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_device


Sure it includes implants ..... breast silicone implants and intra-bone implants.

Sorry.

irishspirit
7th April 2010, 18:51
Micjer,

I am sorry, but it does not state microchips for the population. However, I do agree that there are plans ahead to get that done not only to Americans, but to the World. However, only if we let them.

But, then again, I am suer that it will be used in this way. Infact, I am pretty sure that the Swine Flu Jab contained this very think awaiting to be activated, or maybe used to release something into the population.



Irishspirit

Micjer
7th April 2010, 19:34
Micjer,

I am sorry, but it does not state microchips for the population. However, I do agree that there are plans ahead to get that done not only to Americans, but to the World. However, only if we let them.

But, then again, I am suer that it will be used in this way. Infact, I am pretty sure that the Swine Flu Jab contained this very think awaiting to be activated, or maybe used to release something into the population.



Irishspirit

Yes I realized that after I had posted the initial thread. The link provided for global research did not come up and when I did more research I found the story was overblown indeed.

However this does not mean that there intention is not to implant everyone eventually.

Fearmongering is part of their agenda also, so we have to take all info with a grain of salt anymore.

MorningSong
7th April 2010, 22:49
Along these lines, I ran across this:


Smart Pill Reports Back

A new smart pill could let doctors know when patients have taken their medicine.

The medicine cabinet of the future could help make sure patients take their medications on time via a myriad of smart technologies. There are already pill bottles that wirelessly report to a computer when a cap has been opened, and devices for automatically dispensing medicine at the right time, and for reminding patients to take their meds.

Now researchers at the University of Florida have engineered a smart pill with a tiny antenna and microchip that could signal when it has made it into a patient's stomach--reporting to a cell phone or computer that she has taken her medicine. Their design is the latest of several high-tech pill-reporting efforts to improve patient adherence and provide accurate reporting.

The prototype pill is composed of a standard pill capsule, wrapped in a thin label etched in silver nano-ink, comprising an antenna. The team also outfitted the label with a tiny microchip, which can be loaded with sensors to detect measurements like body temperature or pH levels. Both the antenna and microchip communicate with an external transmitter, which researchers say could be fashioned into a wearable device such as a wristband. The transmitter sends low frequency pulses into the body; the pill's antenna tunes into the transmitter's specific frequency, and sends pulses back, along with data collected from the microchip, potentially including the time when the patient ingested the pill, and the type of pill taken.

Daniel Touchette, assistant professor of pharmacy practice at the University of Illinois at Chicago, studies the use of technology to improve patient compliance. "With tuberculosis or mental illness, where you want to make sure they're taking the meds, this system would make sure people are taking their meds, and potentially cut down on nursing time," says Touchette, who was not involved in the research.

Such smart pills could also help pharmaceutical companies test new drugs. Currently, the main way companies can keep track of whether subjects take a given drug or placebo is through patient diaries, which can be easily doctored to skew a drug trial's results. To counter this, companies test the drug on very large populations of subjects in order to get statistically relevant results, which can get expensive.

continue at this link..:

http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/25002/

MorningSong
14th November 2010, 12:38
I just ran across this new article on microchips in medicines... something to be aware of:


MicroChipping the Population? : Big Pharma to begin microchipping drugs

Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:00 CST

Chipped drugs
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The age of pharmaceutical microchipping is now upon us. Novartis AG, one of the largest drug companies in the world, has announced a plan to begin embedding microchips in medications to create "smart pill" technology.

The microchip technology is being licensed from Proteus Biomedical of Redwood City, California. Once activated by stomach acid, the embedded microchip begins sensing its environment and broadcasting data to a receiver worn by the patient. This receiver is also a transmitter that can send the data over the internet to a doctor.

The idea behind all this is to create "smart pills" that can sense what's happening in the body and deliver that information to the patient's doctor. Novartis plans to start microchipping its organ transplant anti-rejection drugs and then potentially expand microchipping to other pharmaceuticals in its product lineup. This same technology could soon end up in pills made by other drug companies, too.

The best laid plans...

It all sounds good on the surface, but NaturalNews readers no doubt have lots of skeptical questions about this technology. For starters, Novartis apparently isn't planning on conducting any clinical trials that might take into account the safety issues of swallowing microchips. "Novartis does not expect to have to conduct full-scale clinical trials to prove the new products work," reports Reuters. "Instead, it aims to do so-called bio equivalence tests to show they are the same as the original."

But I have a question: What chemicals or heavy metals are contained in the microchip itself? A microchip that transmits data obviously must have a power source, meaning it needs to have a very small battery or capacitor of some sort. The materials used in capacitors and batteries, to my knowledge, are toxic to the human body and should never be eaten.

Microchips are not food, and to swallow them seems risky to your health, especially if you're swallowing several microchips per day.

Data privacy

Another huge concern with microchips that transmit data is data privacy. If these microchips are broadcasting information, then obviously that information can be picked up by anything nearby, including potentially unscrupulous individuals or organizations who might put it to a nefarious use.

For example, suppose a local pharmacy store installs a microchip signal detector in their main door entrance in order to track people who are broadcasting medication data. They could then theoretically decode that data and use it to determine what health condition that customer might be suffering and then push competing generic pharmaceuticals as a replacement.

Government agents could carry "pharma microchip scanners" that determine what pills you're taking right now. This could be used to violate your privacy by sharing that data with other government agencies or it could even be sold off to third-party marketing companies.

I very much doubt the data being broadcast by the microchips in these pills will be encrypted because encryption requires real processing power, and there isn't room for much of a CPU or power source inside these tiny microchips. Most likely, they are going to broadcast raw signal data that can be detected and decoded quite easily.

Remember to take your meds

But the really scary part about these micro chipped medications is that this technology will be used to make sure people are taking their medication. Drug companies lose billions of dollars a year (in their minds) from patients not remembering to take their pills. Of course, half the reason they can't remember to take their pills is because many pharmaceuticals damage cognitive function, but that's another story.

So this smart-pill microchip technology will likely be used to track what pills patients have taken so that they can be "gently reminded" to take more pills they may have forgotten. In the marketing business, this is called a "continuity program." It's a way to make sure repeat sales happen on a regular basis.

In this context, micro chipping the pills benefits the drug companies, not necessarily the patients. This is especially true when considering those pharmaceuticals that are harmful to human health -- and we all know the pharmaceutical market is full of pills that have later been found to be extremely dangerous or even deadly (Vioxx, anyone?).

Coming soon: Police drug scanners and employer drug scanners

Now, there may be one interesting side effect to all this: Employers who are interviewing potential job candidates might be able to buy (or make) simple drug scanning devices that detect the presence of a pharmaceutical microchip broadcast signal. (You could probably make one in your garage from electronic parts purchased at Radio Shack.)

This might be very useful for employers who don't want to hire people taking medications. They invite you in for an interview and quietly scan for drug broadcast data. A red light tells them you're broadcasting medication data, and they calmly tell you the interview is over and "we'll get back to you."

With employers right now drowning in health insurance costs, this could provide a simple, easy way for corporations to avoid taking on anyone who might create a cost burden on their health insurance plans (from their point of view). I don't necessarily agree with this use of the technology; I'm just saying this is one way in which it is likely to be used by employers to screen out employees who are on medications.

Cops, too, could use a similar scanning device to determine if a driver at the scene of an accident might be medication impaired. Now this is a use I actually do agree with. Today's roadways are filled with mentally impaired drivers who are doped up on medications. The problem is actually far worse than drunk drivers, by the way, and yet virtually nothing is being done to combat this problem of "medicated drivers." (Most people don't even know the problem exists.)

If people taking medications are broadcasting that fact through all the little microchips they swallow, then scanning for the presence of medications is simple. It's even easier than a breathalyzer test because it requires no action on the part of the test subject. The cop just presses a button, waits two seconds, and can then determine whether you're broadcasting medication data. At that point, you might be arrested under suspicion of "driving while medicated."

Another reason not to take meds

There are clearly a lot of unanswered questions and even some potential risks involved in taking micro chipped pharmaceuticals. For some people, privacy issues may be the biggest factor of all, because who wants to broadcast the fact that they're taking meds in the first place?

I don't take any pharmaceuticals, obviously, and most NaturalNews readers avoid them, too. The fact that drugs will soon be microchipped is yet another good reason to find more holistic ways to take care of your health. Don't bet your life (and your privacy) on Big Pharma's pills. Choose a healthy, holistic lifestyle based on nutritious, organic foods, regular exercise and the avoidance of all man-made (synthetic) chemicals, and you most likely won't ever need pharmaceuticals for your entire life.

The age of micro chipping people and microchipping medications is now upon us. Given what the TSA is doing right now with naked body scanners you can only imagine what Big Brother will do with any medication data you might be broadcasting from inside your body.

In fact, the very idea that there is a microchip inside your body that's broadcasting data might get you flagged as a possible terrorist by the TSA, which would then proceed to finger your genitals and palm your breasts as part of their new "enhanced pat-down" groping technique.

The best way to avoid all this risk is to simply eat your veggies and drink your super foods. Don't become a trackable, traceable, micro chipped subject of the medical industry that wants to turn your body into a chemical profit center.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/217757-MicroChipping-the-Population-Big-Pharma-to-begin-microchipping-drugs

bluestflame
14th November 2010, 13:07
would be a clever idea to use other technology already spread round to read them , they like to lay the infrastructure ahead of time

wonder if the chips are able to trigger the bodies system to synthesise the production of certain toxins


i.e. a form of kill switch

conk
17th November 2010, 16:45
People are already second guessing use of implants in pets. Cancer.