Canada: Election 2015

[Gaia]

The race for the keys to 24 Sussex Drive began...

With exactly three months to go until E-day.

The three main parties :

Conservatives, NDP and Liberals scatter from Ottawa in a field that has taken on a new complexion.

The race for the keys to 24 Sussex Drive began, of course, many months ago if indeed it ever ended after the May 2011 election that finally gave Prime Minister Stephen Harper his majority Conservative governement.... The 2011 election did not ''give'' Harper a majority it was achieved through electoral f..... It would be helpful in Canada if the media would actually report facts, even disputed facts, instead of just parroting the latest line from the PMO.

Fyi Stephen Harper won’t take part in the traditional televised leaders’ debates during the upcoming election...

Perfect :rolleyes:

Leave Harper out of all debates. The other parties can get their message out while explaining to Canadians about their platforms. They can also point out all the disastrous policies Harper has put in place. They can tell the truth about the economy and the $160 billions Harper has run up in Federal debt since he took office. They could debate Harper for his corporate agenda, Bill C-51, his attacks against veterans, seniors, scientists, education, the Supreme Court, the Charter of Rights and the Constitution. It would put Harper on the defensive for the entire election while pointing out Harper's cowardice and his arrogance by not showing up.

Harper’s record of abuse and assault on democracy and rights in Canada is long and well documented.

Time to move on... Canada doesn't need Harper and his archaic irrelevant party. I want to vote to avoid this from ever happening to Canada again.

With the election approaching I want to hear from you Canadians.

Gaia

[Flash]

You, I and other we should put ourselves on the NPD list of candidate and go to Ottawa. We could not do worst for sure. Most probably we would do better, even if it was just to slow down the main mise on the country and its people.

[Daughter of Time]

Let's get rid of the harpy!

Please!!!

[Gaia]

You, I and other we should put ourselves on the NPD list of candidate and go to Ottawa. We could not do worst for sure. Most probably we would do better, even if it was just to slow down the main mise on the country and its people.

If young people had turned out to vote in the same numbers as the population overall in 2011, research suggests they would have changed not just the outcome of the election but the tone and content of the political debate.

Just over 60 per cent of eligible voters actually cast ballots in 2011. Among those under 30, fewer than 40 per cent bothered to vote. And this is part of the Harper Conservative agenda! Politicians necessarily target their messages at those who do vote and as long as the majority of young people don't vote, their tastes are not going to be catered to.

Can we you and me reverse the trend? The response is ''Yes'' Change the message and the messenger, and you can overcome the apathy that keeps so many people away from the polls.

[DeDukshyn]

Let's get rid of the harpy!

Please!!!


Well that is indeed needed, but my issue is who do we have to replace him? I don't trust liberals either, and NDP tend to try to solve problems by just spending more money. More and more I am starting to feel like our system is just like the US ... one control point with different faces (parties). What Canadians need to do is constantly remind politicians, regardless of party, that this country is ours, they work for us and our future generations, put them back in their place for the weasel's they are recognized as, and at every turn when they try to obey their "masters", remind them that we understand what is happening and will not tolerate it while we pay them to serve US. Of course to do that we still need to "wake up" the masses more ... unfortunately ...

[Gaia]

Let's get rid of the harpy!

Please!!!


Well that is indeed needed, but my issue is who do we have to replace him? I don't trust liberals either, and NDP tend to try to solve problems by just spending more money. More and more I am starting to feel like our system is just like the US ... one control point with different faces (parties). What Canadians need to do is constantly remind politicians, regardless of party, that this country is ours, they work for us and our future generations, put them back in their place for the weasel's they are recognized as, and at every turn when they try to obey their "masters", remind them that we understand what is happening and will not tolerate it while we pay them to serve US. Of course to do that we still need to "wake up" the masses more ... unfortunately ...

I absolutely agree with you. Wake up, sheeple!... The metaphor of sheep standing for the clueless public believing everything their political masters told them.

[betoobig]

Ubuntu, the political party Michael Tellinger has created is now in your countrie. What you think about it, and is it really there???
Love
Juan

[Gaia]

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[lucidity]

Hi Gaia,

Which of these 3 parties is most likely to pursue confrontation with Russia ?
And which is most likely to pursue a policy of peace ?

Thanks for your help

be happy :-)

lucidity

PS Is there any chance of Canada making French mandatory, rather than optional ?
(only kidding ;-)

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
There has been alot of talk about Harper BUT he does have a majority government that needs to at least be put into a minority government. Harper is a dictator! Even kids in grade 8 in the usa understand this!

As far as the federal debt is concerned I have tried to find out what it's at for sometime and the lady that is the president of the Canadian small business association I think it's called was talking on the roy green talk show last week. She said the federal debt is 1.2 - 1.3 trillion. The liberals gave the pc's a federal debt of 600 billion.
Up until mulroney and paul martin, Canada borrowed money from the bank of Canada for ZERO INTEREST. Through these 2 fellas they changed the law to make borrowing money through banks the way to go. Interest is in the billions from what I understand of the federal debt by borrowing from banks and not the bank of Canada for zero interest.

We don't even hear about the Canadian Government anymore. All we hear about is the harper government. It's not anyones government except the people of Canada.
It's time everyone says NO to harper and his cronies.

From living alot longer than some I have come to the conclusion that the ndp are not worth putting into office anywhere....federally or provincially.
I think in my opinion the least to continue destroying a GREAT COUNTRY such as CANADA is the liberals even though I am not a fan of liberals, conservations, ndp, green party etc.
There is NO ONE that is up for the job of being a leader since all of them voted for bill C-51. That kinda shows what we have....it's called collusion!
If anyone here wants a high paying job and travel the world then please put your hat in the ring for prime minister of Canada.
chancy

[sandy]

Green Party and Elizabeth May.................

When their election promises fail just like the Conservative, Liberals and NDP maybe the citizens of this country would truly wake up and band together to rid ourselves of governing entities that work for the Global Controllers, Corporations, Oligarch's. etc versus the PEOPLE>>>>>>>>> Something has got to shake the population up soon!!

[Lifebringer]

May the green rainbow hue of clean energy ideas lead Canada to a reality President that will actually steward planet Earth again.
Ever since the CONservacorpRepublicans, got in the destruction of the planet can be seen from plane travelers.

"How can the stripping of the lungs/trees from the planet, be the right thing for our air's future?

[Lifebringer]

I'm checking her out now, we had a Green candidate in VA last state election, they never quit when the planet and middle class pocket is in a strangle hold. Great allies for Bernie who's very often spoken on the destruction of Earth, especially fracking.

To hear Bernie I think they are posting his run for President on You Tube, the Wisconsin was the kick-off and Bernie's running the issues first concerning dis-effected Republicans that insult the heritage of the party by hating instead of solving. We've got to move beyond old people's plans for future distractive division, and start "our" future by hiring people with our best interest/voters front and center. We all know the countries that have the Bush/ISIS terrorist caising trouble, but that cannot take presidence over correction our corruption in our political chambers of laws for or, (in this case) against us. "The real buck stops with us."

[Gaia]

Hi Gaia,

Which of these 3 parties is most likely to pursue confrontation with Russia ?
And which is most likely to pursue a policy of peace ?

Thanks for your help

be happy :-)

lucidity

PS Is there any chance of Canada making French mandatory, rather than optional ?
(only kidding ;-)

Mulcair and NDP leadership supported Israel's war against Gaza last summer. They also fully supported the Harper governement in supporting the coup orchestrated by the United States to Ukraine and the deployment of Canadian troops through provocative maneuvers of NATO near the Russian border.

The Liberals are badly perceived in public opinion because their position regarding the draconian Bill C-51 the Conservative governement. Presented as an anti-terrorist measure , the law gives vast new powers, including the possibility for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) to break with mostly legally when it comes to interfere with groups perceived as a threat to the economic or national security of Canada. While the Liberals claim to oppose many aspects of Bill C-51 , they voted in favor.

Could you clarify your question about the French mandate Lucidity ?

[Lifebringer]

Have you told her of this newer cleaner easy to assemble obs producing technology, yet? I think it would be great for Canada, in the event of ices age or drought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JjI84bUw

I took the initiative to spread the word, if you don't mind. I "really" think this needs nations support.

PS "Especially in OUR hemishere. Mexico can power their country create jobs and end so very many hopeless citizens with no income, to finally have something to stay home and build for their children's future, and not be so destitute. I always say don't put a band aid on a nasty cut.:thumbsdown: Clean it and apply pressure first." Creating jobs in the country with the most crossing is a win-win, yes? They wouldn't have to go so far or take drug runs if they had a job, just check all parts/products, coming in and out of the country for contraband.(more jobs):thumbsup:

If Amazon can check w/computers, so can our "random" inspectors.

[Gaia]

Green Party and Elizabeth May.................

When their election promises fail just like the Conservative, Liberals and NDP maybe the citizens of this country would truly wake up and band together to rid ourselves of governing entities that work for the Global Controllers, Corporations, Oligarch's. etc versus the PEOPLE>>>>>>>>> Something has got to shake the population up soon!!


The Canadian people are asleep, because too engaged by their own personal setbacks ; The employment situation in the country, over-indebtedness etc. The mainstream media are doing everything to keep this whimsical state.

Good to hear from you Sandy :)

[lightseeker]

Gaia, thanks for your comments regarding the Harper regime. This one man has destroyed this country. Never in my life have I seen a political figure in Canada do so much damage to the country and its people. Having followed the politics of this so called conservative party under Harper makes me ashamed of how the image of Canada has become so sullied.
Harper is a sociopath, should he win the next election due to apathy of the Canadian public not voting, he will continue to destroy our country even more. I hope by now Canadians young and old WAKE UP!!! and see what has been done to Canada.

[drgreig]

As for the rest of the (unenlightened/sleeping) people of Canada, one thing for sure is that Harper is the evil they all know and trust to be the dictator that he is. And regardless of the damage, Canada still floats under Harper's rule.

Thomas Mulcair and his NDP party are in the most advantageous position they've ever been in...especially after the victory of (ultra-conservative) Alberta. But, he is the evil we don't know...seeing as NDP has NEVER been the party in power, this has always contributed to voter hesitation.

Justin Trudeau is simply too young and inexperienced...and is nothing more than an example of what having a former PM as a father is like, and where that can get you career-wise.

It is now how it's always been: You've got a limited selection of losers to choose from. As always, the ones that gravitate to party-leadership status, are the ones that will happily play ball with the world banks and elevate the priorities of the cabal above those of their own country.

The Green Party under Elizabeth May is the ONLY hopeful for a better Canada...therefore we have all been conditioned to render her and her party as the "laughing stock" of them all. Pity.

I wish Bernie Sanders was a Canadian...he's got my vote already :)

[Gaia]

Gaia, thanks for your comments regarding the Harper regime. This one man has destroyed this country. Never in my life have I seen a political figure in Canada do so much damage to the country and its people. Having followed the politics of this so called conservative party under Harper makes me ashamed of how the image of Canada has become so sullied.
Harper is a sociopath, should he win the next election due to apathy of the Canadian public not voting, he will continue to destroy our country even more. I hope by now Canadians young and old WAKE UP!!! and see what has been done to Canada.

I really am ashamed to admit to being a Canadian since Harper became prime minister.

Do you remember? I do... The most memorable moment in the last throne speech came when a young woman walked into the centre of the plush red Senate chamber filled with dignitaries and elected officials and held up a handmade sign that read "Stop Harper."

Brigette DePape, who had worked as a page in the Senate for a year, was then quickly hauled away by the House of Commons' sergeant-at-arms. If more Canadians had her courage (and sense of timing) we would live in a better country.



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http://blogs.canoe.com/davidakin/politics/memo-to-brigette-there-are-no-shortcuts-in-politics-it-takes-long-dull-dreary-work/

Il y a un dicton qui dit: ''Qu'une image vaut mille mots''

[Gaia]

''Justin Trudeau is simply too young and inexperienced... ''


Maybe Trudeau is growing into the job, perhaps he has pretty good policy advisors and campaign strategists… but at least, it is an alternative to the hard-edge cold dictatorship we’ve endured under Harper. One thing is already abundantly clear… those of us who have not yet decided will have very clear choices this time around … and our votes will be the most critical.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Not once has the party that actually got the majority vote won the election.

With between 60 - 70 percent voter turnout the majority is always the non-voter.

We speak every time, loud and clear, but we are ignored.

Want things to change? Allow for the vote of the non-voter. See what happens then.

Those that do not want any government are the majority.

But since that will never happen, think of this. With no other party for the conservatives to choose from and three parties to counter them (liberal, ndp, green) - vote-splitting will be a very big problem. The Liberals are dead, the Green party ineffectual and the NDP ready to tear down the structures of government and plunge us into disarray.

But since we've arrived at Pluto, finally, it seems the NDP might get a chance to govern after all. Or an entirely new party might make a break-through. Or it could be the Liberals rising out of the ashes of their formal glory...

[Gaia]

Ernie thank you for your comment :)

I'm not predisposed to speak well about Thomas Mulcair. This man is a lawless! And what about the referendum canceled votes in his district, where he demonstrated an extraordinary intellectual dishonesty.

But, it is often the case, the worst brawlers in opposition can be effective in power. Thomas Mulcair was at the Environment ministry the Che Guevara of Québec.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Don't think much of Mulclair or the NDP. Once voted for them in a municipal vote because the other two were such complete morons.

In the end, my prediction is: Conservative minority coalition government. Unfortunately that may be the best of a terrible situation.

I can't imagine what Trudeau would do as leader. He's too young and brash and too much of a chip off the old block - if you know what I mean.

At least with the NDP we know what they would do. Make enemies of the corporations, dissuade corporate investment in Canada, and then flap around like a fish out of water - wondering what happened to our prosperous nation. Just like they did in Ontario a few decades ago under Bob Rae.

[Carmody]

One also has to understand that the corporations and secret societies, including that of banks WILL cut their own limbs off, in some fashion or another, in order to advertise to the people, that 'socialism of any kind, does not work'.

They will damage themselves and the economy and the people, in order to deliver that message.

In effect, it had precious little to do with Bob Rae, and everything to do with banks, corporations, secret societies, and so on.

We're talking about a group who make the money and control the economy and that Ontario was a small part of it. Thus, making sure that Bob Rae would fail and the people would pay... was a nonexistent cost. It was a forgone conclusion before he won the election. No price is too high when the situation is totally controlled in all parameters and the direction must be different -- for the sake of a far, far larger and longer game.

[Hervé]

Morgan Wheeldon, NDP Candidate, Resigns After Israel Remarks Surface (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/09/morgan-wheeldon-ndp-israel-nova-scotia_n_7962834.html)

The Huffington Post Canada By Althia Raj (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/althia-raj/)

Posted: 08/09/2015 5:06 pm EDT
Updated: 08/10/2015 11:59 am EDT


An NDP candidate whose controversial comments about Israel and Canada were featured on a Conservative attack website (http://www.meetthendp.ca/) has resigned.
On Monday, NDP senior campaign adviser Brad Lavigne confirmed Morgan Wheeldon had been given the boot:


"Our position on the conflict in the Middle East is clear, as Tom Mulcair expressed clearly in the debate. Mr. Wheeldon's comments are not in line with that policy and he is no longer our candidate. We were made aware of some information that had not previously been disclosed. When we approached Mr. Wheeldon with this information he submitted his resignation."
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© Morgan Wheeldon


The Huffington Post Canada has learned that Morgan Wheeldon, who was set to run for the NDP in the Nova Scotia riding of Kings–Hants, handed his resignation on Sunday after the party asked him to resign or be fired. His name has vanished from the national party’s website (http://www.ndp.ca/candidates?search=ns) and his own website has been stripped of its content. (http://morganwheeldon.ndp.ca/)

Judy Swift, the riding president, told HuffPost: "We don’t have any comment on that right now."

Wheeldon’s campaign manager, Ramona Jennex, said he had offered his resignation, but she declined to elaborate.

"What I do know so far is that there has been an issue that has been brought forward, and Morgan is in the process now of making a decision on which way the campaign will go," she said.

Wheeldon is featured on a Conservative Party of Canada website calling Israel’s action against Palestinians a war crime — comments he made on a Facebook post in August 2014.

"One could argue that Israel’s intention was always to ethnically cleanse the region — there are direct quotations proving this to be the case. Guess we just sweep that under the rug. A minority of Palestinians are bombing buses in response to what appears to be a calculated effort to commit a war crime," Wheeldon wrote.

The comment, since deleted, was made in the context of a discussion about controversial British MP George Galloway being physically attacked in London, allegedly for his anti-Israeli views.

“I don't agree with everything Galloway says, but the muted reaction to his beating demonstrates a double-standard in the West. If a Palestinian beat up a conservative politician with the opposite stance, the reaction would be immense,” he wrote.

Wheeldon is also quoted on the Conservative site calling Canada "a country of self-interest and cheap outs" in a September 2011 Facebook post. In his post, Wheeldon wrote that Canada used to be known as a compassionate country.

“They tried to kick out an autistic Korean kid/family not long ago because treatment was too expensive,” he said, before making the controversial comment.

Wheeldon told HuffPost he had "no comment at this time."

The NDP headquarters in Ottawa did not return requests for comment.

Another NDP candidate from Quebec, Hans Marotte, a former well-known separatist, has also come under fire for comments he made supporting the first Palestinian intifada (uprising). (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/07/hans-marotte-palestinian-intifada-israel_n_7957118.html)The NDP declined to say whether leader Thomas Mulcair agreed with the comment but said Marotte believes in a two-state solution that includes a secure state for Israelis along a viable state for Palestinians.

[Hervé]

They Thought They Were Free...


From Milton Mayer's book: They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45
"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people.

....

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security.

....

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

....

"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.

"How is this to be avoided, among ordinary men, even highly educated ordinary men? Frankly, I do not know. I do not see, even now. Many, many times since it all happened I have pondered that pair of great maxims, Principiis obsta and Finem respice—‘Resist the beginnings’ and ‘Consider the end.’ But one must foresee the end in order to resist, or even see, the beginnings. One must foresee the end clearly and certainly and how is this to be done, by ordinary men or even by extraordinary men? Things might have. And everyone counts on that might.

....

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

... in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked.... But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late.... and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

"You have gone almost all the way yourself. Life is a continuing process, a flow, not a succession of acts and events at all. It has flowed to a new level, carrying you with it, without any effort on your part. ...

Milton Mayer