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Omni
3rd August 2015, 11:51
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Snoweagle
3rd August 2015, 12:24
There appears little doubt that Michael Jackson was killed unlawfully.

Interesting thing is, the same secular group accused of the crimes are the same group apparently or allegedly considered responsible for a swathe of murders and acts of genocide.

How the world cowers.

PRAGMAE
3rd August 2015, 12:27
Belief in God and the bible = whistleblowing !? I call it a lost soul. But hey, if that book can make them work for the good side, I say f it.

And still the 23rd september mentionned.

Anyway, great video.

regnak
3rd August 2015, 12:43
not everything is a conspiracy

Michael Jackson was a black person who got skin grafts to become white . He paid millions to kids weather guilt or not to kids to shut them up over child abuse ( over 20 million ) . He made his kids wear face masks were ever they went . His home was called never land were kids never grow up from peter pan .

Michael doctor was convicted of man slaughter

Omni
3rd August 2015, 12:50
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Sophocles
3rd August 2015, 13:04
Sometime after «Thriller» Michael Jackson`s skin started to change. His father said that vitiligo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo) was on his side of the family. MJ said he could not control it and that he did not understand (at 6:36 min):

Why the Illuminati killed Michael Jackson Part - 3

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regnak
3rd August 2015, 13:17
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

from pure black to white

in the words of his plastic surgeon

He stated that Michael has an obsession with plastic surgery and wants to change from a black man to a white woman. He really said that, too. I really like this doctor. He thinks like me! Michael's regular plastic surgeon said that after every album, Mike had more surgery done and always wanted a thinner nose. Michael, however, still claims he only had two procedures done on his nose and nothing else. Not one thing. His face just sort of "squared out" and, mercifully, he got a much better wig

Michael doctor was convicted of man slaughter

yes I have to video above

Cardillac
3rd August 2015, 13:35
Hi all,

if one is truly interested in this topic due check out the following posted link; Xaviant Haze (co-author of the highly informative book "The Suppressed History of America" which deals with the Lewis & Clark expedition and why maybe M. Lewis communicated with Thomas Jefferson in code) makes a very compelling concept that maybe Michael Jackson faked his own death (he also deals with E. Presley on his website) and all the possible "whys and wherefores"...

http://xavianthaze.blogspot.de/2014/02/did-michael-jackson-fake-his-own-death.html

please stay well all-

Larry

justntime2learn
3rd August 2015, 14:05
Here is a thread that may be some help ... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75827-Michael-Jackson-Rituals-of-Blood-Sacrifice-for-9-11-Event-hidden-in-album-Blood-on-the-Dance-Floor&highlight=Blood+dance+floor

Omni
3rd August 2015, 14:18
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Violet
3rd August 2015, 15:54
I was under the assumption that he wasn't dead at all.

Citizen No2
3rd August 2015, 16:05
Interesting.

Check out some of Michael's art.................. Very disturbing.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/never-seen-drawings-made-michael-jackson-hint-mind-control/#prettyPhoto


Regards.

Selkie
3rd August 2015, 16:06
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html

from pure black to white

in the words of his plastic surgeon

He stated that Michael has an obsession with plastic surgery and wants to change from a black man to a white woman. He really said that, too. I really like this doctor. He thinks like me! Michael's regular plastic surgeon said that after every album, Mike had more surgery done and always wanted a thinner nose. Michael, however, still claims he only had two procedures done on his nose and nothing else. Not one thing. His face just sort of "squared out" and, mercifully, he got a much better wig

Michael doctor was convicted of man slaughter

yes I have to video above
It just says he did work on his nose. Not that he graphed white skin on his body ...... How on earth could that even be done???

There are skin-lightening treatments, and this info is just from Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_whitening

And since MJ was immensely rich, and had compliant doctors, he probably had access to stuff we don't even know about. Not to mention that he was a terribly troubled, self-indulgent man who simply did not know when to quit, as is shown by his facial surgeries.

addition Btw, I don't mean that MJ was not mind-controlled. I think he probably was, but by people rather than electronically.

Violet
3rd August 2015, 16:33
Interesting.

Check out some of Michael's art.................. Very disturbing.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/never-seen-drawings-made-michael-jackson-hint-mind-control/#prettyPhoto


Regards.

I heard about the drawing part. Here's a site that claims to have a larger collection: link (http://www.truemichaeljackson.com/drawing/). It includes both messy sketches and more showable samples such as these:

http://files.truemichaeljackson.com/200001405-1da441e9d8-public/art11.jpg

http://files.truemichaeljackson.com/200001392-5de1b5eda1-public/234651402.jpg

He had this Charlie Chaplin thing going on.

Too bad it doesn't mention dates, because there is a very noticable evolution.

Selkie
3rd August 2015, 16:37
Interesting.

Check out some of Michael's art.................. Very disturbing.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/never-seen-drawings-made-michael-jackson-hint-mind-control/#prettyPhoto


Regards.

I heard about the drawing part. Here's a site that claims to have a larger collection: link (http://www.truemichaeljackson.com/drawing/). It includes both messy sketches and more showable samples such as these:

http://files.truemichaeljackson.com/200001405-1da441e9d8-public/art11.jpg

http://files.truemichaeljackson.com/200001392-5de1b5eda1-public/234651402.jpg

He had this Charlie Chaplin thing going on.

Too bad it doesn't mention dates, because there is a very noticable evolution.

Wow!...those are really beautiful! What a sad, sad story MJ's life is, for all his wealth and fame :(

Mark
3rd August 2015, 19:13
Jackson was a world class performer. Loved by millions. He was indeed a Monarch/MK Ultra child (http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2011/10/08/the-assassination-of-michael-jackson-jonestown-mind-control-and-dr-conrad-murray-lucifers-most-secret-servant-the-perfect-patsy/), there are stories about how he and his siblings were used and abused by the Hollywood elite, including some very famous names, back in the 70s. It was his father who introduced them into that world of course, with the prerequisite devilish agreements.


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/Michael19_zpsld4vrsxy.jpg

In regards to his skin and his vitiligo: again, he was a world class performer. For aesthetic and performance purposes he decided that could not go on stage all spotty, with some parts of his face and arms visibly absent pigmentation. So he did indeed have his skin treated to give it an even tone matching the lightest areas affected by the skin disorder. Anybody truly interested can search it and see even more images of the large, unpigmented areas of his arms, hands, face and torso. He did not want to be a woman. Or white. He was unapologetically black and spoke on race issues in the United States frequently.


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/vitiligo-7-Abigail_zpsrnjeroiu.jpg

In regards to the child abuse scandal: He was cleared of every charge. A quick google search will bring up many lurid pages that claim all kinds of things, but the bottom line remains that he was never convicted and that many of those who brought charges against him accepted his probably ill-considered decision to pay them off to get rid of them, rather than confront their allegations. The FBI investigation (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/michael-jackson-attorney-fbi-files-vindication/story?id=9407615) came to this conclusion:


"In all these pages, hundreds of pages, many many hours of investigations ... there's not one scrap of evidence that Michael Jackson ever ... did anything wrong, committed any crime," said Brian Oxman, who represented several members of the Jackson family. "It's almost a vindication, when you look at this. The FBI looked at all of these matters and said, 'There's nothing here.'"

In regards to his love of humanity and the planet, his work speaks for itself:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWf-eARnf6U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pqi8vjTLY

Anyone truly interested in Michael's last years, after the child abuse trial, when he was tired and broken-hearted, hunted and beset on all sides by Powers and Principalities, would be interested in a book written by the two bodyguards that were with him (pictured below) and his children 24/7/730 when he came back from his self-imposed exile in Bahrain.


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/rahkyt/bodyguards_2953631b_zpspccjbzg1.jpg

He and his children were virtually alone in the world. He had no idea where his money was, could not even pay these guys for months and months sometimes, because those closest to him kept him away from his money and funneled it into their own pockets. His propensity not to take active control of his money, to be "handled", played into this deeply and the sheer immensity of the forces arrayed against him and his total vulnerability to the decisions and will of those factions in the Cabal concerned with music and media definitely affected him and, in the end, he seemed to have abandoned himself to his fate. He tried to protect and love his children, find happiness where he could and he effectively let life and circumstance take him where it finally and inevitably did. All of his famous, celebrity "friends" (shown in the below video) abandoned him to his fate once it was clear that the PTB wanted him discredited and dead.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3V-7DEAgdc

There were a few left when he returned who let him stay in their homes when he and his children were homeless, and of course, the ever-present predators who surrounded him in the last months of his life and facilitated his heartbreak, distrust and final descent into hopelessness and total co-optation by AEG and his "This Is It" tour. Anybody interested in reading about this should check out "Remember the Time" (http://www.damienshields.com/review-michael-jacksons-bodyguards-remember-the-time-they-protected-the-king-of-pop-in-revealing-new-book/) which covers the last 2+ years of his life. He gave all of himself. Would drive and find homeless people, get out of his car and give them money. Would sit for hours sometimes at parks and schoolyards with his kids, as they watched other kids play, knowing they could not do so themselves. The two "secret ladies", super-models, who would come to see him for short and private visits. The fact that he could not show his face in public at all, without still being mobbed by people who loved him then and that still love him deeply to this day.

Research, unobstructed by media hype, reveals the truth of the matter. Michael Jackson was not as he was portrayed to be.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2n4MCUH2p0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwYQtQlGmGo

Selkie
3rd August 2015, 19:28
I think that those in the entertainment industry (what a horrible term) are often killed and/or made to look insane if/when they start to rebel or want to quit. They are cash-cows for their controllers, after all. Just look at what happened to Britney Spears, for example. And lets not forget Francis Farmer or Marilyn Monroe. And that's just a few women off the top of my head. It is like, when or if they become too much trouble, then they become worth more dead than alive.

Citizen No2
3rd August 2015, 19:33
Excellent post Rahkyt

I never believed the horrific tales peddled by the MSM. No doubt Michael made some poor decisions, but how could anyone ever comprehend what it was like to live a life like that?

It's Michael Jackson for God's sake!

I hope he found peace.


Regards.

Mark
3rd August 2015, 19:57
Excellent post Rahkyt

I never believed the horrific tales peddled by the MSM. No doubt Michael made some poor decisions, but how could anyone ever comprehend what it was like to live a life like that?

It's Michael Jackson for God's sake!

I hope he found peace.


Regards.

Yeh, I really recommend the book the bodyguards wrote. I was spellbound, I read it in 4 hours one afternoon at the library, could not put it down. In it, you really get the sense of the sheer loneliness of his life, couldn't trust family, had very few friends, his desperation and his willful ignorance about simple things like money and control. He would carry around a suitcase with a few hundred thousand dollars in it, but never thought to give his bodyguards ANY of that money to pay them when they couldn't even take care of their own families for months at a time. Would go on spending sprees, buying garish items and wasting thousands of dollars while his bodyguards were eating cup-a-noodles and bread because they hadn't been paid. But they stayed, because he had no one else, they knew they would get paid eventually and they could clearly see that he was surrounded by shady characters and was targeted, and because they cared for him and his children.

He truly had no idea about some basic things like that, and could be selfish and oblivious in instances like this, because of the life that he had lived where he guarded some aspects of his psyche jealously. He would show compassion to complete strangers, but when it came to paying his employees, that was handled by his Handlers and he never even considered spending what he perceived to be his own personal funds to do so. These are, of course, Handlers who were using and abusing him and redirecting his assets. There were also so many lawsuits against him, the whole thing with ATV Music Publishing, the Beatles Catalog, Dolly Parton's music, it was mind-blowing, the sheer scale at which he was attempting to play.

Compare that to the simple aspects of his life, his inability to trust people yet trusting these bodyguards, virtual strangers when he first met them the night he returned from Bahrain, with his body and those of his children. The fact that he couldn't take his children to the park or to stores, had to let the bodyguards do it. When he tried, he was always quickly mobbed and surrounded. The distrust he held for his immediate family, his brothers and sisters, the extent to which they and their father went to to try to get Michael to pay them money he apparently owed them, to do Jackson Family tours in order to get the cash cow going again, just the pettiness and vindictiveness of it all was so sad. People broken by a system, just like so many others.

The part that his Monarch/MK Ultra programming played into all of it. His propensity to be controlled, to be passive in the face of what were obviously inimical elements surrounding him and using him. He had been used to that for his entire life, used to the fame, living under the spotlight, being in some way, American royalty, yet simultaneously being a black man, subject to the same propensity to negative externalization as Other, alien and freakish, to be ridiculed and gawked at in the MSM. There is no other performer who approaches his world-wide status even to this day. His acclaim and widespread adoration, which of course made him a natural target once he made up his mind to speak out in some ways against the control he experienced and that is rife in the music industry.

Of course, despite the titles and headlines, he never really came out against the "illuminati" persay, it was always against the music companies and executives, and he spoke of other general areas of subordination of black art to the demands of predatory capitalism. Thank you Citizen No2 and Violet, for sharing the artwork. I'd never seen those before. Citizen No2, I agree with the perception that the images you linked in particular as very representative of artwork done by someone who was definitely Monarch/MK Ultra controlled. The themes of those pieces were without doubt indicative of the presence of Alters, including many classic programming themes, like the checkerboard background and the Janus-headed symbology of split personalities.

I will make one caveat here: I said that Michael was not convicted of the crime of child molestation. That is not to say that, at some point in his life, Michael never participated in or witnessed any of the prerequisite ceremonies and depravities of those who control and are so controlled. From my research into his life, I've never come across any witness evidence that has described anything other than him being used sexually by famous predators as a child and young man. In regards to the celebrated child abuse case and the cases going back to the early 90s, the FBI research does indeed state that there was no evidence he had ever molested a child. In his world and perceptions, seeing how he had been used himself, this must have been the most terrible outcome in the entire world, leading directly to the breaking of his spirit and heart.

I hope he found peace as well.

Hawkwind
3rd August 2015, 20:12
I ran across this a while back and it certainly shows motive for a hit. Mx0Un9K5dKQ

Cardillac
3rd August 2015, 21:35
I repeat: check out the following website that Michael Jackson may have faked his own death:

http://xavianthaze.blogspot.de/2014/...own-death.html

I don't know what to say anymore...

Larry

Selkie
3rd August 2015, 21:37
I repeat: check out the following website that Michael Jackson may have faked his own death:

http://xavianthaze.blogspot.de/2014/...own-death.html

I don't know what to say anymore...

Larry

I bookmarked it, and will check it out soon.

Sean
3rd August 2015, 23:40
I find this very interesting.

As my name suggests, I work in the industry myself. I worked with Michael on one of his music videos. I got a LOT of face time in the video. I was on it for a week..it was more short film than music video. won't name it..but it was very big at the time. I witnessed Michael interacting with kids on-set. I think it was either make-a-wish, or another group that sent kids to do photo ops with him during the shoot. I was right there. This was post-molestation allegations, so I obviously took note of his demeanor with these kids..and even then before my awakening on a spiritual level, I was pretty good at reading people, their energy. I didn't sense any of the darkness that people who do bad things tend to have in their field.(by "field" I mean aura, etc).

I think he was framed..and by the "usual suspects". I've gone back and forth on that point. But, after having my OWN run-in with the "usual suspects" after being a working actor..then criticizing Israel..and seeing some of the same tactics used against me(character asassination etc)..and listening to what Chappelle says..and so many others in film AND music..the pattern is clear. I also think he was murdered. I think he was driven to a weakened mental state, and probably made a lot of poor decisions re: drugs/alcohol at the end, that allowed bad people like that doctor who kept giving him that drug that killed him into his circle. ISOLATION, is one key tactic. Basically, MJ was gangstalked. He was a TI, because the tactics are quite similar.

There's a song on his "history vol. 2" called "A Stranger in Moscow". The video for the song is visually stunning..and a good look into's MJ psyche at the time(1996/97), I think ;)

PRAGMAE
4th August 2015, 13:50
I repeat: check out the following website that Michael Jackson may have faked his own death:

http://xavianthaze.blogspot.de/2014/...own-death.html

I don't know what to say anymore...

Larry

Your link doesn't work for me.

Here is the working one :

http://xavianthaze.blogspot.fr/2014/02/did-michael-jackson-fake-his-own-death.html (http://xavianthaze.blogspot.fr/2014/02/did-michael-jackson-fake-his-own-death.html)

BenzSolo
4th August 2015, 22:52
Well here you go. I see that no one has the inside Info here, or anywhere else.
MJ was killed with RNM, remote neural monitoring, this created a "buzz" on the agency grapevine amongst other agents involved in Stalking and who have RNM.
When famous people are killed with this technology it creates a buzz on the agency grapevine. RNM is STANDARD TECHNOLOGY used for spying on and interacting with Targets. Many years ago it was microphones and cameras in ones house or home, now it is RNM. Now Targets are directly wiretapped themselves. Typically cover stories are used for hiding the misuse of RNM, especially when it involves murder. Jeff Rense and his "instant blackout" while driving is a good example. Drugs, suicide, etc are typical cover stories, and again it creates a buzz on the agency grapevine when it is someone famous. How do I know? That is another story, but I knew he was going to die, before he did. Drugs were the cover story.

Wind
5th August 2015, 04:40
I just think that Michael's story was a truly sad and touching one. When they didn't need him they just got rid of him, like many of others too.
Of course he was quite special when it came to his musical merits. My brother loved his music, my mother did too and so did I.

"Jackson came up with this song while he was staying in Moscow during his Dangerous tour. He looked outside his hotel room and saw the crowds of fans who were enthralled with him, yet didn't know him in any meaningful sense of the word. He recalled a sea of faces of fans chanting and screaming, yet he felt all alone, as if he were the last person on the planet. That and the cold, bleak urban Moscow setting came together and inspired this song."

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Jake
5th August 2015, 05:31
There was a discussion a couple of years back, it went quiet. Good that you bring it back up! http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63482-Robert-Conners-exposes-Hip-Hop-Conspiracy.

Here are some Tweets from Paris, his daughter, from 2013.


http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Paris-Jackson%E2%80%99s-Illuminati-Tweets-3.jpg

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/symbol310.jpg
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/images.jpg

Look up the words to the song, 'They don't care about us.' By Michael Jackson... Paris knows who -they- are!

Look at this pic of Michael in the vid... See the eye in the background? When this still is taken in the video, the lyrics are saying, "You can never kill me"...

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/jackson.jpg



Latoya knows too!



Jake

Mark
6th August 2015, 18:32
It would satisfy my sense of internal justice to think that Michael was still alive somewhere, watching. It makes me smile to consider it.

I checked out that article posted on the last page, which spent a lot of time talking about Michael Jackson and his marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. I found the information to be compelling on that front as well as the questions raised in regards to his death and some of the inconsistencies pointed out. There are some things not considered though:

1) Granted, the public story about the wedding could have been faked. But it could have been for other reasons than considered in that article. The first and primary among them is that Michael and Lisa Marie were truly in love and used such a story in order to further obscure the real ceremony, whatever the reason may be. There is no way that anyone who has looked into their history and public appearances together, their words about each other and the length of time they knew each other could think otherwise. It was a true, soulmate connection.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAyKJAtDNCw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu1Swf6T1Gg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQKqDhJAOU

In regards to her not being the real Lisa Marie, I do not know. But her eyes and nose certainly resemble very closely those of her father. Listening to her speak, seeing her and michael together, it is clear that they are in love.

2) The doctor, Conrad Murray, was a patsie. He was not on staff long enough to facilitate Michael's dependency on Demerol.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rQZ-L8KC_A

There were other doctors, intimately connected with CIA mind-control programs that were involved, I linked an article earlier that goes into as much detail as anybody would want:

THE ASSASSINATION OF MICHAEL JACKSON, JONESTOWN, MIND CONTROL AND DR. CONRAD MURRAY, LUCIFER’S MOST SECRET SERVANT, THE PERFECT PATSY

This article ties it all together and includes contextual information linking Jackson's travails to the Italian Mob, the Government and Mind Control Programs that most here should be familiar with.

Jesse
16th August 2015, 11:43
If he suspected people were trying to kill him, perhaps it's because he knew what he'd been up to and knowing how heinous it was he feared he deserved to be. If you knew him and he treated you well, then I'd say you're fortunate because many people did not have that same warm, fuzzy, feel good, pleasent experience with him.

Cidersomerset
25th January 2017, 17:55
http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.20.5/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Paris Jackson: 'My father was murdered'

By Mark Savage
BBC Music reporter
8 hours ago

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/F9FF/production/_93799936_jackson.jpg
Paris was 11 years old when her father died of a heart attack brought on by an overdose of painkillers

Michael Jackson's only daughter, Paris, says she believes her father was murdered.

In her first in-depth interview, Paris told Rolling Stone she was convinced Jackson's
2009 death was "a setup".

The singer died from an overdose of the powerful anaesthetic propofol. His doctor
Conrad Murray was later found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

But Paris believes there is more to the story. "He would drop hints about people
being out to get him," she said.

"And at some point he was like, 'They're gonna kill me one day.'"

Asked by interviewer Brian Hiatt if she thought her father was murdered, the
18-year-old replied: "Absolutely".

"Because it's obvious. All arrows point to that. It sounds like a total conspiracy
theory... but all real fans and everybody in the family knows it. It was a setup."

She went on to say "a lot of people" wanted her father dead, and that she was
playing a "chess game" to bring them to justice. The teenager did not name
specific people, and did not implicate Conrad Murray in her accusations.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/824E/production/_93785333_8a5c35d2-77cf-4601-92d3-26f0a1d43371.jpg

Read More......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38737565

Delight
5th March 2024, 18:56
I don't know anything but I was always very confused by so much that I heard about Michael Jackson. This is an interesting thread.

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