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bobster1973
5th September 2015, 22:50
free energy

sounds simple but the reality is the real time applications for a stable free power source is years away from being available to the public. we will have open contact with aliens before we get free energy. before we get open contact we have to go thru the ancient alien artifact's story. (oh look what we found on the moon & mars crap)

agreed open contact is getting more of reality by the day but that doesn't mean a new infrastructure being built over night. personally if I was E.T I would concentrate the hunger and health issues before I gave the blue prints to free energy. "priority's first"

that leaves us and our children with a huge problem. we know free energy exists. we even know about the science behind it. but we also know if we create free energy we may need to change the current infrastructure's that brings the power to our homes and/or to our appliance's. also we know the government are going to dig in and hold this back at all costs...

if we over come the first 2 hurdle's and get the science and blue prints made available, its still going to take years before every one can benefit from the end result.

the way we make and use energy is on the verge of being re written but until then we have to use the existing electrical infrastructure.

boom box "power cells" clean energy

https://youtu.be/5RehT-Do9bs
https://youtu.be/shkFDPI6kGE

I am a big fan of low cost energy. if there's a way of cutting the costs then I am all for it so this post is all about real time applications for low cost energy.

its not free but it is cheaper then the grid and will run from natural gases. like methane ? the gas we have absolutely s**t loads of. forgive the pun. my point is technology like this has real time application's.

now I know the working class people have little money to invest so I'm mindful that costly tech has little practicality in the real world, but that said we have to start somewhere.

this is one of many concepts I intend to post so keep an eye out for more. as I say it may not be free but it is cheaper

I'm working on finding the free ones

thanks for looking !

NeedleThreader
5th September 2015, 23:06
This concept drives me nuts. We have the technology but the planet is getting destroyed so the few can profit from the suffering of many. I bet you are right bobster about ET disclosure coming first. That is when they will integrate the new technology 'as a gift from our new friends'.

I feel like they would shut down any sized free energy operation beyond that of personal use in a nano second. That would be like printing your own money to them, or god forbid collecting your own rain water! I think Tesla had the free energy thing down almost a century ago but there were too many investments and too much money to be made in coal and oil at the time to turn around.

ETs are here for sure and I am seeing more and more crafts lately. Very exciting time!

Aurelius
5th September 2015, 23:56
free energy

sounds simple but the reality is the real time applications for a stable free power source is years away from being available to the public. <snip>


you might want to look into this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83294-Significant-Keshe-Foundation-public-announcements&p=989716&viewfull=1#post989716) or this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83294-Significant-Keshe-Foundation-public-announcements&p=990950&viewfull=1#post990950).

For the 2nd link, this is the part i'm drawing your attention to:

"if you want to make your own device, go here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaMMojo6ek), if you want to buy one, go here (http://www.keshefoundation.org/shop-et-livres/kf-products)"

Bubu
6th September 2015, 01:14
Thanks Bobster, This is the kind of none fantastic thinking we need to have. The too good to be true energy devices are most probably to good to be true

bobster1973
6th September 2015, 09:37
hey needlethreader

it's frustrating and clearly going to be a mission all on its own. free energy right now would de stabilise the financial system some what. yes we can pull the plug on the grid so to speak but it will damage the economy. with that said if we don't make the change now we are putting off the inevitable. what bothers me more is the energy companies have the money to invest in free energy generator's so what's going to stop them investing and then charging us. ? I see that happening first. it may be cheaper but it's still controlled by the industrial complex

my idea is to find a free or low cost energy supply that can be added to a domestic family home using the existing cables, plugs, switches and fuse boards. the power cell has that quality. I'm also researching magnetic power assist generators. basically a system that will run a lighting ring main and low energy appliances on a dynamo principle. I still think the key is magnetic perpetual motion as it seems the most practical, safe and low cost option.

if you find anything let me.. :-)

bobster1973
6th September 2015, 09:40
hey babu

that's my plan. I see a lot people thinking that once contact is made all the problems will be solved over night. its not the reality I'm working with. but I do think there's is a way to reduce our energy bills sooner rather then later

bobster1973
6th September 2015, 10:48
hey aurelius

I see that concept a while back and it made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. talk about 3 in 1. energy, food and medicine in one machine. that to me seems like the most likely replacement for all those needs. nano tech is the future.

the plasma cell is being worked on all over the world. (funny how uk news keeps that silent) and ive researched other similar plasma technology and it should be cheaper.. £500uro its still not cheap but a worth while investment all the same

definably one I'm interested in.

just spent the last hour researching for an update on the anti gravity tech and I didn't like what I found

watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15YyeAo9zoU

its 1 year over due and the company has had the tech confiscated more then once. Iran and u.s.a are now in bed together so I doubt he will get any support from his government.. makes you wonder why usa got so friendly with Iran recently ???????? and why the company is based in Italy

its still moving forwards but we need open contact before we get to fly in that space ship

one step forwards, then 3 steps back.

if you find anything interesting pls keep me posted.

:-)

Lifebringer
6th September 2015, 12:27
Not so. Recently, like last several months of this year til current, the push is a strong one. Many people are awake and aware and waiting for the organizing. Preparing both spiritually/learning unconditional love for humanity as a whole. Caring was a "softie" label during the 80's and 90's, but that's how we got here. Not caring enough. We are here now in the present and able to organize through truth communication/revealing links. The evil doers are being rounded up by evidence, and thank god we're not alone in stopping what we mortals have created too soon. Atomic energy with no end game/waste removal other than being sold for weaponry or ships.
Now to cut to the progress if your up to a few hints . Youtube search "keshe foundation" Look at the hundreds of video showing "how to do free energy" but specifically scan "our" archives back in July or Aug for the link here. They have a "in your" facebook acct to protect them from harm as the bring the plasma loop energy units out. Online copying of the instruction and marketing to China who'll begin a manufacturing 2015/end of the year, but the offer to make them in every country for rapid conversion off, offshore oil drilling, coal and frackin' gas. The price is 3500.00 which includes 200.00 in tax to train those oil, coal and gas workers, as they lose their jobs.(skilling them) Also includes the 500.00 installing cost as you will be off the grid. Worth investing in as this IS the 21st century Tesla science, only through keshe foundation. Our generation is picking up the torch now for the victory lap. That would be gen X age55- 67 and below is gen Y age 30-54, then gen Z 1day-29, those wonderful grandchildren need a future free of the corrupt garbage handed to us. We're not afraid as Eminem would say. We parents taught our children no fear of anything, but God and guided them in moral principles to be the best they can with the deck so firmly stacked against us, and have faith that the same God that weakened Pharoah's heart/Slavery in US, will intervene. After all, thoughts are manifested, God was manifested through faith from man. ONE God over them all/the Creator infinite Eternal All Knowing God is in all the ancient scripts along with his hosts. Also if you haven't already check out Zacharia Sitchen's "Wars Of Gods And Man," the universe hsas cycles in different quadrants I believe.

chancy
6th September 2015, 20:43
free energy

sounds simple but the reality is the real time applications for a stable free power source is years away from being available to the public. <snip>


you might want to look into this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83294-Significant-Keshe-Foundation-public-announcements&p=989716&viewfull=1#post989716) or this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83294-Significant-Keshe-Foundation-public-announcements&p=990950&viewfull=1#post990950).

For the 2nd link, this is the part i'm drawing your attention to:

"if you want to make your own device, go here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaMMojo6ek), if you want to buy one, go here (http://www.keshefoundation.org/shop-et-livres/kf-products)"


Hello Everyone:
I am all for Free Energy. I haven't seen the results from the Keshe Foundation as of yet? I don't think that the working products have past by me yet? For the last few years there has been a buzz in the air regarding the Keshe Foundation. Has anyone bought his product and got it to work in their home or office or anywhere for that matter?
The reply from anyone that has used this product would be appreciated! Thanks
chancy

PS IF you want free energy then look at Thomas H. Moray's patented Free Energy device. He got 5000 watts out of thin air literallyl. Here is a little info on him and his patented invention. It never got commercially produced unfortunately.

Link:
http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

bobster1973
6th September 2015, 21:57
hey lifebringer

i have researched the keshe foundation exstensivly

its truly blind blowing and i am watching the foundation very closely

but the tech is not being made for free and the foundation is encouraging the industrial markets to mass produce the materials so we as the consumer can buy it cheap

money is still going to be needed and love is not going to encourage the industries to give there products away. its getting there.. we are close.. almost falling over the edge in to the dream but for now the fight goes on

i hear your words and i believe in what your saying but sadly I'm a realist and i don't see things changing drastically over night. we could be waiting a while !

bobster1973
6th September 2015, 22:08
hey chancy

I'm still doubt ful your get it thru customs. I can find a definitive answer on how to ship plasma reactors. lol parcel force would find a health and safety issue there i bet

if i hear anything il drop you a message

bobster1973
9th September 2015, 08:49
hey chancy

iv been looking for the specs of the keshes plasma reactor and this is all I can find on output 3/4 kw max....its meant to be for life tho.

I'm still trying to find out how it works. my understanding of power is limited but how does the voltage come into play ? u.k run from a 230v system

how can we know if the 3/4 kw reactor works in the uk using a current system.. IF ANY ONE CAN DO THE MATHS I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE RESULT

its shame because as you rightly said the keshe foundation is being vague on the specs

be careful about these products.. although he's the real deal and wants to help he has agreed to filter this tech out slowly to minimise the effect it will have on the energy market and those employed in that area. he also building funds to help those who will loose there jobs.

its also clear he going to be bombarded with rules,regs and everything else our governments can throw at him. he does seem determined tho I give him that

http://pesn.com/2011/04/12/9501807_Keshe_selling_3-4kW_plasma_generators_next_year_with_class/

http://pesn.com/2015/07/14/9602646_Keshe-Magrav-Power_home-and-car-generators_alleged/