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AMystic3434
6th September 2015, 20:51
I just watched an hour long interview with him he says hes a representative of the secret space program and goes on to say that he met aliens on mars and stuff. But the stuff he says seems almost to good to be true but he doesn't look like he is lying. Im not sure what to make of him. Anyone know more about him cause you would think the stuff he says would be on national tv by now which leads me to believe its not true. Thanks.

AMystic3434
6th September 2015, 21:50
Here's the video I watched of him:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBRqipPFUk

YoYoYo
6th September 2015, 21:56
I'll enjoy having a watch, thank you. I have no idea how to judge myself but I can repost Bills answer when I accidentally got an answer to your question





I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

That's an important and intelligent question. It can be applied to every situation in which we find ourselves where we're presented with information that may be not be easy to evaluate.

The intelligence services use this well-tried system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_source_and_information_reliability

http://projectavalon.net/Source_reliability_and_Information_reliability.gif


That's a pretty useful thinking tool. It's objective (it has to be), and from an intelligence analysis point of view, is independent of irrelevant subjective factors such as whether a source is difficult to work with, or whether or not they're likeable as an individual.

In there, at the end, of course, there's a human evaluation which is at least subjective to a degree. To set the cat well among the pigeons, and to offer a few examples, I'd offer these personal assessments:



Corey Goode: E4
David Wilcock: C3
Michael Salla: B3

(and while on the subject of Mars and the Secret Space Program)


Andy Basiago: C4
Randy Cramer: E4
Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann): A2
Bill Deagle: A2
Jay Weidner: A2
Steven Greer: D2
Alfred Webre: D4


(And finally, to set the bar discuss :) )

Linda Moulton Howe: A1
Rich Dolan: A1
Richard Hoagland: B2
Bob Dean: A2
Kerry Cassidy: B2
Bill Ryan: A2



Re Linda/Rich/Richard/Bob/Kerry/myself, some of the disparity in rating is accounted for by the nature of the material those six are willing to consider/explore/discuss.

Now I'm going to have a watch myself! :)

kirolak
7th September 2015, 05:24
Interesting, but I have my doubts about him. . .The female interviewer is terrible, why didn't she ask any pertinent questions? EDIT: Sorry, I should not have said that. . .we each have our own style. . . but if this is true, we need a top calibre interview with a less casual approach, imho

Aspen
7th September 2015, 05:34
There are other better interviews of him. There was one done with Simon Parkes and Randy Kramer. I don't know what to think of him myself. If he really is military then maybe he is being told what information to let out to the public now. Maybe he is part of the same disinformation campaign as Corey Goode and the Sphere Alliance. Simon seemed to think he had quite a bit of reptilian blood in him. The part that I found interesting was the time travel and the genetic manipulation that occurred before he was even born. He admits that genetic material was added to that provided by his father and mother to make him a super soldier. So, if any of it is true then maybe it is a little like the Orphan Black Netflix series, he is a like a copywrited piece of genetics that is raised to be a soldier. bc0RIUsWWUQ

Old Wolf
7th September 2015, 05:53
I've watched a bit of Randy Cramer before. Alfred Webre had a good interview with him:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ExopoliticsTV

Being a professional journalist certainly helps with the interview style. I found him after Laura Eisenhower mentioned him during an interview, little doubt about the authenticity of her lineage :)

In terms of Randy's authenticity, I can't imagine he has much to gain by lying about this sort of information. Secondarily his information dovetails with other sources who speak about Mars. Third, I don't think too many people could wander around claiming to be military officers and get away with it for long without some sort of political backing. If taken on face value, his story makes a lot of sense and fits in a great deal with the little information available on some of these black ops / time manipulation projects. At no point when I've seen him does he appear to be searching for the truth and he's clearly sharp, clear thinking, methodical, disciplined and intelligent.

If it's all a hoax then it's the most carefully constructed, far out and detailed hoax I've ever seen. The fact that what he talks about is so unbelievable makes it all the more compelling. As they say "You couldn't make this stuff up".

Kindly.

Aspen
7th September 2015, 06:06
Kerry Cassidy did a great interview last year of Randy 6FbOiIdgbl0

Alpha141
7th September 2015, 06:45
A good ally (Max Steel - http://www.servantoftruth.org/max-steel.html) had him on as a guest August 19th in the link to his weekly show archive below if you are after something new from a very powerful psychic interviewing him:

http://www.darkcityradio.com/?pid=6

Cheers

Bill Ryan
15th May 2017, 13:11
Wasn't Veterans Today (http://veteranstoday.com) part of the rollout of the Randy Cramer story? Or did he kind of do that on his own? My memory is incomplete here.

It was my understanding that you became extremely skeptical of that story. Dolan gave a backhanded criticism as well on the Jimmy Church show, about three months ago, iirc, that you highlighted, as part of the ongoing Corey saga. I will note that the "Captain Kaye" channel got pulled from YouTube, although that's not necessarily a tell.

Yes, your memory's good. :) The articles are here. (click the link for search results)


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aveteranstoday.com+%22Randy+Cramer%22

Cramer's story is fantastical because of (just for one) the impossible ecological logistics of several different indigenous species living on Mars, which is what he claims. No infrastructure, no food sources, no farming, no large animals to hunt, etc etc. It's pure nonsense. A self-sustaining race of large intelligent native species invariably leaves in-your-face visible answers to the question of how they all manage to stay alive there.

Randy Cramer may have been given the story to believe and present, but (another red flag for a supposedly smart man) he apparently never thought of any of the impossibilities. He bought the story himself, totally. That suggests that some form of mind control is at play here.

section9
16th May 2017, 00:28
Wasn't Veterans Today (http://veteranstoday.com) part of the rollout of the Randy Cramer story? Or did he kind of do that on his own? My memory is incomplete here.

It was my understanding that you became extremely skeptical of that story. Dolan gave a backhanded criticism as well on the Jimmy Church show, about three months ago, iirc, that you highlighted, as part of the ongoing Corey saga. I will note that the "Captain Kaye" channel got pulled from YouTube, although that's not necessarily a tell.

Yes, your memory's good. :) The articles are here. (click the link for search results)


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Aveteranstoday.com+%22Randy+Cramer%22

Cramer's story is fantastical because of (just for one) the impossible ecological logistics of several different indigenous species living on Mars, which is what he claims. No infrastructure, no food sources, no farming, no large animals to hunt, etc etc. It's pure nonsense. A self-sustaining race of large intelligent native species invariably leaves in-your-face visible answers to the question of how they all manage to stay alive there.

Randy Cramer may have been given the story to believe and present, but (another red flag for a supposedly smart man) he apparently never thought of any of the impossibilities. He bought the story himself, totally. That suggests that some form of mind control is at play here.

Randy Cramer's story is as consistent as any of the "whistleblowers" that I've heard in recent times who claim to have been with Solar Warden. Naturally, the devil is in the details and the story begins to unravel as soon as one applies the questions you raised, such as, how did an insectoid race and a raptor race coexist on Mars for such an extended period of time without one wiping the other out, etc. Then there's the "Assault on Ganymede", etc.

He's an extremely good storyteller. I found him quite compelling. As you say, the story may have been implanted to throw people off, and I find it somewhat telling that Google-owned You Tube has sent him packing.

If I can reiterate a point you (and others) have beaten like a rented mule: there are genuine whistleblowers who have risked careers and lives to disclose information to the public. It remains passing strange that in contrast, there are those who appear to be telling the entire story and do so with apparent risk to life, limb, or bank account. That should be the biggest red flag of all.

JMHO. As a new guy.