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Lost N Found
14th September 2015, 21:54
Shane is going to be interviewed on cosmic voice tomorrow, Tuesday, By Thomas and Drake of all folks. Here is a link.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams.

Found this on this link

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/09/13/cosmic-voice-guest-on-tues-sept-15-shane-the-ruiner-illuminati-insider/


September 13, 2015 by Starship Earth: The Big Picture
Cosmic Voice Guest on Tues. Sept. 15—Shane, The Ruiner (Illuminati Insider)

illuminati exposedDrake and Thomas shuffled their Cosmic Voice show schedule to accommodate Shane, AKA The Ruiner, who is an Illuminati insider and very popular in Truther circles of late.

Based on the info the dynamic duo have shared to date from Shane, I’d say it should be an interesting show on Tuesday. (normally Wednesday)

More of the Ruiner/shane

RunningDeer
15th September 2015, 23:12
Shane is going to be interviewed on cosmic voice tomorrow, Tuesday, By Thomas and Drake of all folks. Here is a link.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams.

Found this on this link

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/09/13/cosmic-voice-guest-on-tues-sept-15-shane-the-ruiner-illuminati-insider/


September 13, 2015 by Starship Earth: The Big Picture
Cosmic Voice Guest on Tues. Sept. 15—Shane, The Ruiner (Illuminati Insider)

illuminati exposedDrake and Thomas shuffled their Cosmic Voice show schedule to accommodate Shane, AKA The Ruiner, who is an Illuminati insider and very popular in Truther circles of late.

Based on the info the dynamic duo have shared to date from Shane, I’d say it should be an interesting show on Tuesday. (normally Wednesday)

More of the Ruiner/shane

:bump: - 47 minutes and counting

@ 8:00 pm - link to interview (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams)


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/shane_zpsgp5s5jjr.jpg

Paul
16th September 2015, 00:03
:bump: - 47 minutes and counting

@ 8:00 pm - link to interview (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams)


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/shane_zpsgp5s5jjr.jpg

It seems to be live - at least in the opening music. Thanks for the notice and link, RunningDeer.

Lost N Found
16th September 2015, 02:14
I can't stream at this time of day but did begin to listen and shane was talking, Came on at 6pm here. Guess I get to see a transcript or listen in morning. Saw something quite interesting on the starshipearth site earlier. I believe that link is above. Runningdear posted it in#188.

Daozen
16th September 2015, 02:38
I hope he gently puts forward the idea that Putin, the AIIB and BRICS are a shell game. He could do a lot of good if he gets that across to those guys.

RunningDeer
16th September 2015, 02:59
Thanks, Shane, Thomas and Drake.

Paraphrase from the last minute:

We’ve already won, we’re just trying to remember how.
The momentum has been generated. Keep it up.
Work together. Move forward. Create love for Her and Us.

heretogrow
16th September 2015, 03:01
WHOOOO! HOOOOOO!

Shane that was Awesome!!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!!! Forgive me but I am kind of bubbling over in gratitude! Humanity has a CHANCE! I LOVE YOU MOTHER EARTH!

Much Love to us all!!!!
Julia :)
(Can we get a group HUG!!!)

ulli
16th September 2015, 03:07
WHOOOO! HOOOOOO!

Shane that was Awesome!!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!!! Forgive me but I am kind of bubbling over in gratitude! Humanity has a CHANCE! I LOVE YOU MOTHER EARTH!

Much Love to us all!!!!
Julia :) (Can we get a group HUG!!!)

Joining in here.
What a great show, Shane.
And I also loved the music.

Now I want to hear you sing.

Daozen
16th September 2015, 03:25
Does anyone know how to download the MP3? Do I have to be logged in?

I only heard 8 minutes but it was an awesome interview. Thomas asked some good questions and gave Shane time to speak... There was a good atmosphere and they work well together.

We’ve already won, we’re just trying to remember how.


That made me laugh too.

Cheers.

Paul
16th September 2015, 03:26
Awesome interview of Shane

It is now available for download from http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams (click on the 3 little balloons, right side, near top, just below the words "Log in".)

I have also placed a copy at http://thepythoniccow.us/ThomasWilliams_interviews_Shane_15Sep2015.mp3

RunningDeer
16th September 2015, 03:59
Much Love to us all!!!!
Julia :)
(Can we get a group HUG!!!)

Got some squishy ones, Julia. Squish-squish.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/grouphugg.gifhttp://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-765537.gif
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/earthhug.gif

http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-079668.gifhttp://www.pic4ever.com/images/z5.gif


Awesome interview of Shane

It is now available for download from http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey/2015/09/16/special-show-with-shane-ruiner-with-drake-and-host-thomas-williams (click on the 3 little balloons, right side, near top, just below the words "Log in".)

I have also placed a copy at http://thepythoniccow.us/ThomasWilliams_interviews_Shane_15Sep2015.mp3

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/bliss.gif Thank you, :cow:

Daozen
16th September 2015, 04:03
Thanks Paul. 165MB of pure knowledge. I will probably listen to it 3-5 times. There was a lot of wisdom there.

How many times did he say "unintended audience"? Only five? That would be a good drinking game.

Hope we can get more interviews out of Shane.

Daozen
16th September 2015, 06:06
If anyone wants to group-type a partial transcript, I made a piratepad here. Up to 8 people can work simultaneously.

http://piratepad.net/wBujb6zSfh

Daozen
16th September 2015, 10:03
Just listened to the first two hours. Amazing. One of the best exo-political interviews ever. Highly intelligent questions, well organised, good atmosphere.

This interview should be required listening for any researcher, as it effectively debugs and de-brainwashes all of us from over a decade of misdirection and disinformation. The range of topics covered is vast.

Thomas Williams is a great interviewer, he and Shane get on well.

Finally, some truth.

Lost N Found
16th September 2015, 17:56
This was great, to get to listen to shane talk, quite a calm and even joculant in his answers and conversation. I will listen to this more times. Thanks Paul for the MP3 info I am going to download that to listen to in the afternoon.

Thank you all, I have a feeling that we will be hearing more from shane on the cosmic radio. Paul and Runningdear both have posted the links to this show. I am seeing it showing up on other sites now. I listened to it on http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2015/09/drake-bailey-interviews-illuminati.html
We also get to go to Kerry cassitie's project Camelot site and listen to shane also.

Sean
16th September 2015, 20:21
I'm into hour 2 of this, and I'm MUCH more impressed with Shane. When I listen to Shane here, read the blog, and read Svali's writing..it now makes sense. The "structure" of this system is clearer.

@Shane, if you see this..is there anyone, any group, out there actively COUNTERING these beings, these people, these control programs?

Is there an "anti-illuminati"?

Constance
16th September 2015, 22:11
If anyone wants to group-type a partial transcript, I made a piratepad here. Up to 8 people can work simultaneously.

http://piratepad.net/wBujb6zSfh

Hello Daozen :sun:

Thanks for the heads up on the PiratePad. :thumb:

I'll contribute whenever and wherever I can. I've made a start.

I'm not sure if I am doing it right. If I'm not, could you please PM me?

This is such a great idea for transcribing interviews for those who like to take notes, for those who are hearing impaired or for those who haven't got time to listen to the entire interview.
Thanks again!:bearhug:

Maria Stade
16th September 2015, 22:19
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=3996&d=1296002913:clap2:

Lost N Found
16th September 2015, 22:57
So the interview with Thomas Williams and Shane provided even more very interesting and very intelligent info for us. I have come across some more related info and will post here.

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2015/09/illuminati-vampire-cassandras-letter-to.html#more



Wednesday, September 16, 2015
Illuminati Vampire Cassandra's Letter To Humanity & The Departure of The Illuminati "Parents"
enerchi
AscensionwithEarth.com
September 16, 2015

http://api.ning.com/files/eJ9km34AIs5FqSacYPjo51G7RPosmCfr5aTU2KcoapS38c7Lfi KYxBbjvLR5wKDazjlb6rDQ3JZIAYUtHQOIaaWhl6Vwyn0k/Annunaki.Giants.jpg?


This is the infamous letter from one of the heads of the Illuminati family named "Cassandra". Cassandra is known as one of the "The Parents" that is of an age over 7,000 earth years according to Shane of the former "Ruiner Blog". Shane had a close relationship with Cassandra when he was as young as 15 years old. Cassandra is said to be linked with the Annunaki bloodlines.

http://www.rantlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Vampire-Study.jpg

In related info, David Wilcock released some information at the Consciousness Life Expo from February this year 2015 (40 minute & 20 second mark) , about these types of beings who were given life extension technologies and super healing powers. Apparently this technology works by becoming a vampire and sucking the life force of another human being during some sort of satanic ritual. David says that the victim has to consent before the ritual takes place. In order to kill one of these Illuminati "Parents" one needs to cut off their heads.

As Shane started to disclose information about "The Parents", the people started to request more information about them. Shane got in touch with Cassandra and she decided to give the humans a piece of her mind. This was the first public letter of two that I know of that is now released into the public. Continue below to read the first letter from Cassandra.




We do not hate you we are indifferent. Left to your own devices you act as if you wish to destroy this world for your own comfort and convenience. The happiest you ever appear is in a state of ignorant bliss so why shouldn't we continue. You had your chances and your perfect world when that wasn't enough we were created to lead you. And as the lion feeds on anything it can we do unto you. A few may act or feel differently but the focus remains on the majority not the few lonely villages questioning and dreaming.

The energy you possess is squandered, neglected, abused. For a hundred years we have fed you your entertainment and you have devoured our offering supporting the lies your told ignoring the nuggets or people of truth. Not once giving us any indication you wish things to be any different. Speak up if you have something to say we are listening but we will not allow you to waste such a resource as yourselves. You can not be allowed to destroy the planet like your creators designed you to.

So we will give you the escape you so desperately want we warn you ourselves and you swallow it like greedy little piglets expecting us to deliver you from your own evil and call it entertaining. You have given us no reason to feel any differently than we always have about you and that is why we are building this world for you.

You will become cybernetic while we allow it after which time you will be fully inserted into a brand new world. "The Kingdom of Heaven" the bulk of you have been worshiping while we waited for our chance to take over you. You want a savior and we will save you from yourselves. We will enjoy the fruits of our labor while you sleep and dream as we create our own world for ourselves in which you are not suitable to exist. You are breathing dead and your time is ours. Billions of you and only a few are even reading this and that would still be true even if this was your nightly news station. A capable race would see beyond the swamp to find the fresh water.

My very letter to this man called The Ruiner will be a representation of the fact that you all cannot see truth when it is in front of you and you will always choose the more comfortable free ride provided by leaders who are willing to be responsible for you. Leaders with the strength of will to create the world. Children is what you are the children of animals. And we will have our utopia without your presence doing anything but powering our new creations. What a hundred readers or more and you think you're all ready to be saved.

To address you the runaways. We hope you enjoy your freedom and wish you luck knowing you need it. You've damn near voided your agreement with us by inspiring this fiasco so tread carefully.

The writer of this blog has tried to argue on behalf of a few thousand humans who are aware of us what we do and how the world really works as if this is some sort of defense of humanity as a whole. These few have always existed and are laughed and ignored because of their own inability to digest the knowledge they have. They sit at computers and attend conferences that feed the money cycles as if they are outsmarting the system. This is no threat any damage these types could have ever done would have been done long before today.

Go ahead and prove us wrong.

Hope this is what you wanted Mr. Green though I doubt it. Until we meet again;

Cassandra


If this is actually a letter from the Illuminati Vampire then we see the type of mindset these beings have and why the human race and Mother Earth have been manipulated for many ages. Is it actually a surprise see the apparent disdain towards the human race from these beings?

Shane revealed a lot more details about "The Parents" on his last interview with Thomas and Drake which is now available at this link here. Shane read the newest message from Cassandra, which is her "goodbye" letter to Shane. You can fast forward to the letter read by Shane at 55 minutes and 30 second mark of the radio show. Apparently Cassandra along with a majority of "The Parents" decided to kill themselves and leave planet earth recently. I am not sure if a reason was given as to why these Illuminati controllers finally decided to relinquish control and self claimed authority over the human race but I am sure we can piece those assumptions together with our own belief systems and what other insiders are sharing with us.

You can dive deeper into the structure of the Illuminati and "The Parents" control network through their Covens. You can read more about the Covens structure at this link here.

I find it ironic that these Vampiric Beings and Illuminati Parents believe that humans need saviors and leaders, give guidance and structure, when in fact they are the ones who seem to need humans in order to sustain themselves physically and mentally. They need the human life force or "louche" energy to feed and gain strength. In respect of Cassandra's mindset from the letter, came off as pretty arrogant, and that she needs to feel powerful and in control over others to make her feel important. One has to ask if Cassandra and these Parent Beings are under a state of mind control? If so, they are just another pawn within the Cosmic Matrix that which is so desperately trying to enslave galactic races throughout the Universe.

It is my opinion, that the Awakening Humans are now learning to thrive off our own divine energy without the need for external consumption. This rediscovery of the power of the human spirit is making us realize our own immortality is about to be realized. We are removing the shackles of the control matrix and stepping into our own power. Could this be the reasoning why the entire Universe is putting focus on the human race? Could this be the reason why all these different Extraterrestrials, Spiritual Hierarchies (Religious and New Age) , AI, Beings from other timelines, and astral worlds are putting their utmost effort into humanities awakening? Those who identify with the fantastic power of the divine human experience understand the limitless potential that exists with Life. And Life is what we are!

~enerchi


This just keeps getting more and more interesting. Questions are asked

RunningDeer
17th September 2015, 00:35
:clap2:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=3115&uid=2488&d=1423604746
Unable to access.

Daozen
17th September 2015, 01:28
Transcript so far, by anonymous white hats:

Thanks, whoever you are:

(BTW, I am especially interested in the section about the "Hunkydory cybernetic period" about 45 minutes from the end, and the AI info, about 15 minutes from the end. That info is amazing, and bears reading 5-10 times.

Thomas Williams, Drake and The Ruiner. First Interview - September 15 2015

TW:Without further ado I'm going to introduce Shane aka The Ruiner.
Hi.

TR: Hi everyone. How's it going?

TW: It's good. Well, we've been looking forward to this night in particular for a long time.I didn't test the air too much anyway.

TR: Inaudible

TW: It should be good. And of course, the members all had a taste last week when you appeared on the show with Kerry Cassidyand so tonight we're going to do our version and hopefully we are going to go into some more depth and more detail.and hopefully we don't run out of time.
Do you want to say anything before we start some questions Shane?

TR: Not particularly. It's nice to be here. Thank you for inviting me and sorry I didn't get to do it sooner.

TW:Nah, that's okay. All the members have been pestering me so it should be good.
Right, lets get into some questions. In the first part we would like to get people to have a better understanding of who and what you are.
The first question is:
Could you explain why the illuminati nicknamed you the Keeper of Secrets as well as The Ruiner?

TR: Well The Ruiner just came along because they had plans for me and I kept ruining them, quite simply. I've explained how I bounced between different projects it was more or less just trying to find one that I fit into which none worked and that's where The Ruiner came from. I was ruining all the attempts that they made. Keeper of Secrets came kind of after that because of none of that working. I kind of got an overview of things.And I was actually... It's not so much keeping secrets from humanity as much as it was keeping secrets from people within various projects and stuff like that because I'd have to interact with people in different programs and not tell them what was going on in other programs. So, Keeper of Secrets meant that.

TW:Yes...And that's good for us. Right, so eventually you created a blog. It wasn't particularly targeted towards the general public. Who was it targeted towards and why?

TR: I had a bunch of people that I had been corresponding with for a long time:emails, Skype chats, phone calls, stuff like that. Got to be a bit much as the number of people grew and they kind of wanted a general puzzle put together for them and I didn't know how to do that with addressing everyone individually so it was actually a group of them who came up with the idea to write a blog or write something like a blog where I could post and they could all read it at once and it would kind of tell them the story of how it all fit together. So that is why I had done it. I started writing a while before I ever posted and just kind of when I felt like I had enough

Daozen
17th September 2015, 01:31
If anyone wants to group-type a partial transcript, I made a piratepad here. Up to 8 people can work simultaneously.

http://piratepad.net/wBujb6zSfh

Hello Daozen :sun:

Thanks for the heads up on the PiratePad. :thumb:

I'll contribute whenever and wherever I can. I've made a start.

I'm not sure if I am doing it right. If I'm not, could you please PM me?

This is such a great idea for transcribing interviews for those who like to take notes, for those who are hearing impaired or for those who haven't got time to listen to the entire interview.
Thanks again!:bearhug:

You are doing it fine Breal. It's a shame more people don't help. Piratepad is good because you can do a rough transcript in real time on the fly, and then someone can come along behind and correct grammar mistakes and fill in gaps. I have suggested Piratepad many times, but no one is interested.

There are also a few interesting functions on the top bar of the interface, that can help. The "remove colours" tab is useful.

johnh
17th September 2015, 01:34
Great interview. Thank you, Shane and Thomas.

Lost N Found
17th September 2015, 01:34
:clap2:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=3115&uid=2488&d=1423604746
Unable to access.

My dear Runningdeer, What a great response. Reminds me of a movie that came out in the early eighties called Short Circuit. Johnny 5 kept asking for more input. Apparently the link does not work.

Constance
17th September 2015, 01:50
If anyone wants to group-type a partial transcript, I made a piratepad here. Up to 8 people can work simultaneously.

http://piratepad.net/wBujb6zSfh

Hello Daozen :sun:

Thanks for the heads up on the PiratePad. :thumb:

I'll contribute whenever and wherever I can. I've made a start.

I'm not sure if I am doing it right. If I'm not, could you please PM me?

This is such a great idea for transcribing interviews for those who like to take notes, for those who are hearing impaired or for those who haven't got time to listen to the entire interview.
Thanks again!:bearhug:

You are doing it fine Breal. It's a shame more people don't help. Piratepad is good because you can do a rough transcript in real time on the fly, and then someone can come along behind and correct grammar mistakes and fill in gaps. I have suggested Piratepad many times, but no one is interested.

There are also a few interesting functions on the top bar of the interface, that can help. The "remove colours" tab is useful.

Thank you for being so kind as to removing that purple colours tab for me.

Well, that is two of us interested now. :sun:

This is just an idea and you can throw out the idea into the trash can if you think it is too loopy :crazy:

My idea is...

Start a thread showcasing the idea behind using PiratePad and how it can help others. Then, if enough interest is shown, give a bit of a tutorial - like the PA technical hints and tips.

God only knows how helpful I have found that technical tips and hints thread!!

Dennis Leahy
17th September 2015, 01:52
WHOOOO! HOOOOOO!

Shane that was Awesome!!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!!! Forgive me but I am kind of bubbling over in gratitude! Humanity has a CHANCE! I LOVE YOU MOTHER EARTH!

Much Love to us all!!!!
Julia :)
(Can we get a group HUG!!!)
I'm in! :grouphug:

heretogrow
17th September 2015, 02:13
Hugs to you from the Ethernet Dennis! You made me smile!

Much, Much Love,
Julia

Daozen
17th September 2015, 02:43
My idea is...

Start a thread showcasing the idea behind using PiratePad and how it can help others. Then, if enough interest is shown, give a bit of a tutorial - like the PA technical hints and tips.

God only knows how helpful I have found that technical tips and hints thread!!

It's a good idea, but I have suggested Piratepad 10-15 times to a muted silence. People seem to like bashing their heads against the wall transcribing 1 on 1. I just don't have the time and energy. The interface is intuitive and could be worked out by anyone. Maybe I just annoy the f*** out of people and they are snubbing me? Who knows.

You could start a thread if you wanted...

Constance
17th September 2015, 03:11
My idea is...

Start a thread showcasing the idea behind using PiratePad and how it can help others. Then, if enough interest is shown, give a bit of a tutorial - like the PA technical hints and tips.

God only knows how helpful I have found that technical tips and hints thread!!

It's a good idea, but I have suggested Piratepad 10-15 times to a muted silence. People seem to like bashing their heads against the wall transcribing 1 on 1. I just don't have the time and energy. The interface is intuitive and could be worked out by anyone. Maybe I just annoy the f*** out of people and they are snubbing me? Who knows.

You could start a thread if you wanted...

I wouldn't like to speak for others but I can speak for myself and say that I try to live the most balanced life I can and unless I am organised enough to dedicate a certain amount of time in the day for projects such as these, things can and do go by the wayside.

Life can come at me pretty thick and fast sometimes. Even with the best intentions - things can go awry :o
Things are a bit quieter at the moment but I never know when that will change.

Sean
17th September 2015, 04:09
Just kinda ruminating on this interview. This is no shock to anyone who's here..but Shane took a hammer to pretty much every religion/belief system. We can set religion aside..most of the "spiritual orgs" out there are actually working FOR illuminati, not against; channelers may not be channeling what they think,so, HUGE grain of salt whenever one encounters that type of info. The "soul trap" existed, but it's now turned off, and reincarnation was, itself, just a recycling of us back into spiritual bondage. Blavatsky's followers, theosophists,are gonna have a heart attack. Also, I love how "Atlantis" was actually a spacecraft, with a city built around it.

Basically, we've been living in a "star-wars"-type galaxy, complete with multiple alien races, spacecraft,(with some sort of warp drive I'd assume), other tech we can't even begin to guess at, portals to other planets, bases all over the place, good aliens/humans vs. evil ones, covens run by multiple-thousand year old "parents" doing black magic,one of whom wrote Shane a letter before killing herself and moving her consciousness elsewhere,and there even is some kind of galactic council. And this is before we even get into stuff regarding consciousness generally and connection to gaia and source.

Also, giant aliens in stasis chambers that have been there for thousands of years.

DAMN.

Shane, brutha, you're setting the world on fire.:bowing:

Burn it all.

I need a drink.

Daozen
17th September 2015, 06:02
Transcription/editing of two key segments underway here.

Started a new pirate pad to keep it clean.

http://agarthanalliance.blogspot.tw/2015/09/2-small-ideas.html

Maria Stade
17th September 2015, 10:26
:clap2:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=3115&uid=2488&d=1423604746
Unable to access.
Sorry I had forgotten how to ad pics or it was a block on my album
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=3996&d=1296002913

Sean
17th September 2015, 15:16
So the interview with Thomas Williams and Shane provided even more very interesting and very intelligent info for us. I have come across some more related info and will post here.

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2015/09/illuminati-vampire-cassandras-letter-to.html#more



Wednesday, September 16, 2015
Illuminati Vampire Cassandra's Letter To Humanity & The Departure of The Illuminati "Parents"
enerchi
AscensionwithEarth.com
September 16, 2015

http://api.ning.com/files/eJ9km34AIs5FqSacYPjo51G7RPosmCfr5aTU2KcoapS38c7Lfi KYxBbjvLR5wKDazjlb6rDQ3JZIAYUtHQOIaaWhl6Vwyn0k/Annunaki.Giants.jpg?


This is the infamous letter from one of the heads of the Illuminati family named "Cassandra". Cassandra is known as one of the "The Parents" that is of an age over 7,000 earth years according to Shane of the former "Ruiner Blog". Shane had a close relationship with Cassandra when he was as young as 15 years old. Cassandra is said to be linked with the Annunaki bloodlines.

http://www.rantlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Vampire-Study.jpg

In related info, David Wilcock released some information at the Consciousness Life Expo from February this year 2015 (40 minute & 20 second mark) , about these types of beings who were given life extension technologies and super healing powers. Apparently this technology works by becoming a vampire and sucking the life force of another human being during some sort of satanic ritual. David says that the victim has to consent before the ritual takes place. In order to kill one of these Illuminati "Parents" one needs to cut off their heads.

As Shane started to disclose information about "The Parents", the people started to request more information about them. Shane got in touch with Cassandra and she decided to give the humans a piece of her mind. This was the first public letter of two that I know of that is now released into the public. Continue below to read the first letter from Cassandra.




We do not hate you we are indifferent. Left to your own devices you act as if you wish to destroy this world for your own comfort and convenience. The happiest you ever appear is in a state of ignorant bliss so why shouldn't we continue. You had your chances and your perfect world when that wasn't enough we were created to lead you. And as the lion feeds on anything it can we do unto you. A few may act or feel differently but the focus remains on the majority not the few lonely villages questioning and dreaming.

The energy you possess is squandered, neglected, abused. For a hundred years we have fed you your entertainment and you have devoured our offering supporting the lies your told ignoring the nuggets or people of truth. Not once giving us any indication you wish things to be any different. Speak up if you have something to say we are listening but we will not allow you to waste such a resource as yourselves. You can not be allowed to destroy the planet like your creators designed you to.

So we will give you the escape you so desperately want we warn you ourselves and you swallow it like greedy little piglets expecting us to deliver you from your own evil and call it entertaining. You have given us no reason to feel any differently than we always have about you and that is why we are building this world for you.

You will become cybernetic while we allow it after which time you will be fully inserted into a brand new world. "The Kingdom of Heaven" the bulk of you have been worshiping while we waited for our chance to take over you. You want a savior and we will save you from yourselves. We will enjoy the fruits of our labor while you sleep and dream as we create our own world for ourselves in which you are not suitable to exist. You are breathing dead and your time is ours. Billions of you and only a few are even reading this and that would still be true even if this was your nightly news station. A capable race would see beyond the swamp to find the fresh water.

My very letter to this man called The Ruiner will be a representation of the fact that you all cannot see truth when it is in front of you and you will always choose the more comfortable free ride provided by leaders who are willing to be responsible for you. Leaders with the strength of will to create the world. Children is what you are the children of animals. And we will have our utopia without your presence doing anything but powering our new creations. What a hundred readers or more and you think you're all ready to be saved.

To address you the runaways. We hope you enjoy your freedom and wish you luck knowing you need it. You've damn near voided your agreement with us by inspiring this fiasco so tread carefully.

The writer of this blog has tried to argue on behalf of a few thousand humans who are aware of us what we do and how the world really works as if this is some sort of defense of humanity as a whole. These few have always existed and are laughed and ignored because of their own inability to digest the knowledge they have. They sit at computers and attend conferences that feed the money cycles as if they are outsmarting the system. This is no threat any damage these types could have ever done would have been done long before today.

Go ahead and prove us wrong.

Hope this is what you wanted Mr. Green though I doubt it. Until we meet again;

Cassandra


If this is actually a letter from the Illuminati Vampire then we see the type of mindset these beings have and why the human race and Mother Earth have been manipulated for many ages. Is it actually a surprise see the apparent disdain towards the human race from these beings?

Shane revealed a lot more details about "The Parents" on his last interview with Thomas and Drake which is now available at this link here. Shane read the newest message from Cassandra, which is her "goodbye" letter to Shane. You can fast forward to the letter read by Shane at 55 minutes and 30 second mark of the radio show. Apparently Cassandra along with a majority of "The Parents" decided to kill themselves and leave planet earth recently. I am not sure if a reason was given as to why these Illuminati controllers finally decided to relinquish control and self claimed authority over the human race but I am sure we can piece those assumptions together with our own belief systems and what other insiders are sharing with us.

You can dive deeper into the structure of the Illuminati and "The Parents" control network through their Covens. You can read more about the Covens structure at this link here.

I find it ironic that these Vampiric Beings and Illuminati Parents believe that humans need saviors and leaders, give guidance and structure, when in fact they are the ones who seem to need humans in order to sustain themselves physically and mentally. They need the human life force or "louche" energy to feed and gain strength. In respect of Cassandra's mindset from the letter, came off as pretty arrogant, and that she needs to feel powerful and in control over others to make her feel important. One has to ask if Cassandra and these Parent Beings are under a state of mind control? If so, they are just another pawn within the Cosmic Matrix that which is so desperately trying to enslave galactic races throughout the Universe.

It is my opinion, that the Awakening Humans are now learning to thrive off our own divine energy without the need for external consumption. This rediscovery of the power of the human spirit is making us realize our own immortality is about to be realized. We are removing the shackles of the control matrix and stepping into our own power. Could this be the reasoning why the entire Universe is putting focus on the human race? Could this be the reason why all these different Extraterrestrials, Spiritual Hierarchies (Religious and New Age) , AI, Beings from other timelines, and astral worlds are putting their utmost effort into humanities awakening? Those who identify with the fantastic power of the divine human experience understand the limitless potential that exists with Life. And Life is what we are!

~enerchi


This just keeps getting more and more interesting. Questions are asked

That bolded bit, right there.

That's the sound of a gauntlet being thrown down.

"Cassandra" is right about the "few thousand", although I'd argue it's more than that. So, we've been genetically manipulated, abused, poisoned, irradiated, lied to, disrespected, and laughed at while we wallow in our own ignorance, even though the truth has always been RIGHT IN OUR FACE.

Time for some action, I'd say. :blackwidow:

As far as what to do: Organizing, in some way would be useful. But I think the work is, first off, internal. What information have you been given that you didn't recognize, that you couldn't digest/understand? What talents(information from the field=talent) have you never developed? Do so now.

That is your weapon. Wield it, like King Arthur wielding Excalibur. Use it to strike down(metaphorically/spiritually, anyway) those who seek to harm and oppress you and your fellow humans. Do so INDIVIDUALLY, from wherever you are. See, we now have to look at the WHOLE chessboard. See the connections. You could live in NYC, Paris, or Moldovia, it doesn't matter. Everything is connected. Be both individual and collective warriors, with whatever is at your disposal.

Basically, you need to be a guerilla warrior in your own way. A Jedi Knight, in your own way.

We all have to "man up". get your life right. straighten out your personal issues.

Pull that sword from that stone, and get to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_TFoGhqUU

RunningDeer
17th September 2015, 15:45
Maybe I just annoy the f*** out of people and they are snubbing me? Who knows.

Point One:

It's been my experience that there are a LOT of starters and much less finishers. And then there's the group that ends up taking on the whole project. Why? Some haven't learned the art of saying "no", then stew in resentment or lament at the whole wide world. Or unfinished projects drive them crazy. Or...

Point Two:

Here sits a commitment phobe.

Either that or I no longer live in clock world. What touches me in the moment, I’m off doing.

Or…it’s like 'nails on a chalkboard' (remember those?) to think that many transcribe the beginning and no one the middle or the end.

Incomplete project…:rant: Another 'nails on the chalkboard'.

Continuing…

Which means you’d need a commitment from others to promise transcriptions of their designated time frames.

I hear those whispers now, “Where the bleep is RunningDeer’s? She promised. She didn't say, 'no'.”

Which loops back to here sits a commitment phobe. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/SEVeyesC08_th.gif

Point Three:

A+'s to Daozen for:

creative solutions
passion
making a difference
being a fire starter
just cuz you are


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Cartoons_Silly/nails-chalkboard_zps9cl5iob0.GIF

RunningDeer ♡

Daozen
17th September 2015, 19:00
Thanks Running Deer,

It was just a throwaway comment. The new energies are unsettling and I am feeling kind of exuberant. But I honestly don't know why the audio/truth community hasn't embraced piratepad. I see transcripts all the time done by one person. That must be hell.

To put things in perspective, I was just suggesting that 10 people spend literally 2 minutes each and transcribe a specific section. No way would I be presumptuous enough to drag people into a huge project. I know what you mean about commitments and flaking.

I do tend to look for creative solutions, then let other people carry them out if they want. It comes down to me only having 3-4 hours of net time per day, and having to cram lots of actions into a small time window.

Thanks for the kind words.

Peace

RunningDeer
17th September 2015, 20:08
Thanks Running Deer,

It was just a throwaway comment. The new energies are unsettling and I am feeling kind of exuberant. But I honestly don't know why the audio/truth community hasn't embraced piratepad. I see transcripts all the time done by one person. That must be hell.

To put things in perspective, I was just suggesting that 10 people spend literally 2 minutes each and transcribe a specific section. No way would I be presumptuous enough to drag people into a huge project. I know what you mean about commitments and flaking.

I do tend to look for creative solutions, then let other people carry them out if they want. It comes down to me only having 3-4 hours of net time per day, and having to cram lots of actions into a small time window.

Thanks for the kind words.

Peace

Dearest Daozen,
It was more a fun piece. The greatest take away from it is that you're lovely.http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-765537.gif
Love,
RunningDeer

:offtopic:

Daozen
17th September 2015, 20:24
Thanks Running Deer,

It was just a throwaway comment. The new energies are unsettling and I am feeling kind of exuberant. But I honestly don't know why the audio/truth community hasn't embraced piratepad. I see transcripts all the time done by one person. That must be hell.

To put things in perspective, I was just suggesting that 10 people spend literally 2 minutes each and transcribe a specific section. No way would I be presumptuous enough to drag people into a huge project. I know what you mean about commitments and flaking.

I do tend to look for creative solutions, then let other people carry them out if they want. It comes down to me only having 3-4 hours of net time per day, and having to cram lots of actions into a small time window.

Thanks for the kind words.

Peace

Dearest Daozen,
It was more a fun piece. The greatest take away from it is that you're lovely.http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-765537.gif
Love,
RunningDeer

:offtopic:

No, that is on topic. Thanks again. You can access the right hemisphere, correct, Running Deer? Come and say hi some time!

Lost N Found
17th September 2015, 23:50
Well it appears that folks are responding to the Cassandra letter. I would suspect Shane to be back soon on wherever or whom ever requests his presents. I will give a letter response that just came across.

Daozen, I realy appreciate your starting something that will give hopefully a transcript to these interviews. I do see that you are of good heart and incredible mind to help us all with this. I am amiss in not enjoining in that endeavor at this time but will try in near future. Here is the latest in following Shane and Cassandra.

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2015/09/an-open-letter-to-one-who-calls-herself.html#more

Thursday, September 17, 2015
An Open Letter to the One Who Calls Herself “Cassandra”
Received via email to share....


An Open Letter to the One Who Calls Herself “Cassandra”

http://img00.deviantart.net/6e55/i/2013/006/b/0/dr_pig_01_122412_by_ckdailyplanet-d5qnlem.png
Your letter to us was an assured message of your ultimate power. I would respectfully like to add a few ideas and thoughts that seem to be missing from your (almost) comprehensive assessment of our situation, if only to possibly help my fellow travelers along the way.

It would be important to mention (and remind everyone who read or listened to your letter) that in fact, you too are a “child” of a greater being, as difficult as it may be for you to hear that, and as offensive as it may be to hear it from “something” you consider so far beneath your status. This is however the truth; it is the fact of your very existence and especially important to note since you feel so strongly about informing us that OUR very existence is solely “allowed” by you. It is difficult to believe that in your pervasive wisdom, you would be unable to admit that you too are one more creation of the vast and Grand Mystery of Existence. This must be obvious to those beings in dimensions even “higher” than yourself, but oddly enough, it is also perfectly obvious to many of us “piglets” way down here on dark earth. Interesting how Source Itself cares not for “levels” of its manifestation but gives freely to all, delusional gods and ”piglets” alike!

In consideration of the points you made in your letter, you would not seem so omniscient to us “animals” if you admitted your own personal dependence on a Greater Source. We know you could never do that. You want us to believe that there is nothing above you, but of course, there is. (All this defining “above” and “below” used only for convenience, as “directions” is erroneous). By convincing us that you are our only and true connection to Source, you have many advantages, but this kind of message is terribly incomplete. Let’s shine some light on it. Possibly you’ve already heard this from others well beyond this writer’s pay grade by now and laughed at them too... but let us offer the following for your amusement:


For the (Celestial) Record, please be aware that we “piglets” are not now, and never have been, 
disconnected from the One Magnificent Creator. Whether we are consciously aware of this or not (and of course, so much easier to be aware of it) our ultimate link to Source goes well beyond you, your religions, your symbols and your ceremonies. There is no use pretending or hoping this is not true; and there is nothing that you or any other self-declared “supreme being” can do to change that. I didn’t make up the rules, and no matter what you choose to believe, neither did you.

Appointing yourself as the unquestioned “almighty one” and getting between Source and Its Creations, you’ve done a magnificent job of keeping our built-in and powerful connection to the One Infinite Creator hidden for a long long time. It does seem surprising that you thought this could go on forever, though. You must have known the little useless eaters would find out someday...and truly that day is upon us all, whether any of us like it or not.

You mention that you do not love or hate us; that your words are said with indifference. Is your desire to have absolute control over us an “indifferent” one? If you feel indifferent about us, it would be perfectly fine if this desire of yours were not met. You do seem quite positive that you will get our cybernetic bodies delivered to your feet, and nothing we can say or do will change that. Will you be upset if this delivery doesn’t happen exactly as you are assured it will? And isn’t it true that your “supreme” level, needing ANYTHING is beneath you? Are there an actual number of us you NEED to fulfill this desire? What if that number turns out is not what you believe it should be? Will you then react like the “piglets” do...with anger, hate, retaliation...or will you be indifferent, as the Creator is TO YOU? So, which is it? Is it that we mean nothing to you, so it won’t matter a whit if we refuse to participate in your plan? Or is it that we are SO important that you cannot “allow” us to refuse? Both cannot be true. Yet, you said we would have no choice but to submit. It does appear to be that you need something from us so badly; you cannot afford to have your “piglets” turn you down. And this is hardly the sentiment of “indifference”.

In summary:
The Infinite Creator also allows YOU to exist. But what you have exposed here is that in order for YOU to CONTINUE to exist, YOU NEED US TO HELP YOU. If this is not true, then clearly, we should be “allowed” to do whatever we want, and if that means not consenting to your plan, it should be inconsequential to you.

No answers are required or necessary as we do not desire a dialogue. We assume you find this very amusing or just mildly annoying and easy to dismiss. (Strange...as you can so easily predict our responses, we can easily predict yours.) One thing is for sure and with all due respect: we do not need you, and we do not consent to your plans for OUR future. We DO need and want one thing: to continue to keep our connection to our most Magnificent and Mysterious Source open and alive. We have come to learn that is the most important thing any being, from anyplace, can ever do.

Even as our “parents”, you can choose to finally move on, to experience what is beyond what you believed yourselves to be, and leave us alone. You could find a new way to create and enjoy the ride that would be superior to this little “control” experiment you’ve been running throughout the galaxies for eons and eons already...

Despite the fact that we will not be a part of your future endeavors, good luck on your journey and may you continue to enjoy the love and light of our One Infinite Creator.

Sincerely,
The Piglet Ph.D.
July 6, 2015

Not sure about the date given by the Piglet Ph.D

awakeningmom
18th September 2015, 05:06
I hate to be a buzz kill here on the Cassandra letter, but I'm calling it a fraud. It is written in the same style that Shane/The Ruiner writes. Just read his blog posts and you'll see the same rhythm, cadence, and clipped simplicity in conveying his ideas. Nope. I just don't buy that a 7,000 year old Parent, who is at the very top of the food chain -- i.e., the elite of the elite of psychopathic humanity -- wrote this. While the elite may be ritualistic, sadistic, unfeeling psychopaths, they are Phillips Academy, Harvard University and/or Oxford/Cambridge/Sorbonne University educated and trained psychopaths. They're erudite beyond belief. (and no, I'm not talking about G Dubya). Have you ever spoken to a true elite even in the visible control system? I have. The ones I've met are brilliant -- remember, we're the ones being dumbed down, not them. And this "woman" has been around since the written form of communication was created -- she must speak/write/grok every language on earth (she's certainly had a long time to learn-- and probably helped to create language in the first place). Putting aside why she would even be interested in ANY human with a life span of 70-90 years (a fly's life to her...), even if that human was illuminati born, there's just no way she's going to write a letter like that to a small, seemingly inconsequential group like us....(or even those leaving the programs/cults/projects).

I do like the Ruiner's posts and I was much happier with the Thomas Williams' interview vs. Kerry's (even though Thomas seemed to be bored at times, scanning his notes for additional questions....seriously, if you are talking to someone who speaks regularly to the Rulers of the World -- don't the questions just come up fast and furiously?), but I think this "letter" from a Parent was just an exercise to get people responding/fired up -- and motivated to pull the sword from the stone.

Or maybe I've read too many Anne Rice Queen of the Damned and Vampire Lestat books in my youth....definitely have a very different idea of what Vampire Royalty would write or say -- and to whom.

Nasu
18th September 2015, 06:36
I hate to be a buzz kill here on the Cassandra letter, but I'm calling it a fraud. It is written in the same style that Shane/The Ruiner writes. Just read his blog posts and you'll see the same rhythm, cadence, and clipped simplicity in conveying his ideas. Nope. I just don't buy that a 7,000 year old Parent, who is at the very top of the food chain -- i.e., the elite of the elite of psychopathic humanity -- wrote this. While the elite may be ritualistic, sadistic, unfeeling psychopaths, they are Phillips Academy, Harvard University and/or Oxford/Cambridge/Sorbonne University educated and trained psychopaths. They're erudite beyond belief. (and no, I'm not talking about G Dubya). Have you ever spoken to a true elite even in the visible control system? I have. The ones I've met are brilliant -- remember, we're the ones being dumbed down, not them. And this "woman" has been around since the written form of communication was created -- she must speak/write/grok every language on earth (she's certainly had a long time to learn-- and probably helped to create language in the first place). Putting aside why she would even be interested in ANY human with a life span of 70-90 years (a fly's life to her...), even if that human was illuminati born, there's just no way she's going to write a letter like that to a small, seemingly inconsequential group like us....(or even those leaving the programs/cults/projects).

I do like the Ruiner's posts and I was much happier with the Thomas Williams' interview vs. Kerry's (even though Thomas seemed to be bored at times, scanning his notes for additional questions....seriously, if you are talking to someone who speaks regularly to the Rulers of the World -- don't the questions just come up fast and furiously?), but I think this "letter" from a Parent was just an exercise to get people responding/fired up -- and motivated to pull the sword from the stone.

Or maybe I've read too many Anne Rice Queen of the Damned and Vampire Lestat books in my youth....definitely have a very different idea of what Vampire Royalty would write or say -- and to whom.

I had similar thoughts, regarding the grammar and presentation.. However, maybe she's just really old and so out of touch, she cant use a keyboard, her thing is cuneiform or her poor minion is also so ridiculously old that they dont know how to use grammar, lol! My parents were like that too, complete Luddites.

They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

I suppose, being respectful to my new found overlord-dictator and giving her or her minion the benefit of the doubt and all that, spelling and grammar and the printed word have only been about for the last five hundred years or so, defined, refined and adopted within the last century, she was busy. My parents were the same with new stuff... N

Ps: On a more serious note. You are right that it seems like a call to arms or challenge, whoever wrote it... N

Daozen
18th September 2015, 12:55
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

Maria Stade
18th September 2015, 13:45
Ill just say !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=24369&uid=2488&d=1442443999

awakeningmom
18th September 2015, 15:41
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Daozen
18th September 2015, 16:57
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.


Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.


NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

awakeningmom
18th September 2015, 19:04
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.


Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.


NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today.

First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent.

Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed.

Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.

Daozen
18th September 2015, 19:40
Hey awakeningmom. You may have some good points, but I hate to see good thinking get swallowed up in an ascii block, when people don't use paragraphs. It's a common issue on Avalon. Most of us have ADHD, and zone out quickly at wall of types. I am not having a go, just mentioning something that might help.

EDIT: You edited it. Nice. :)

Peace...

Elainie
18th September 2015, 20:52
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.


Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.


NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today. First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent. Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed. Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.


I strongly believe they (who are the elite of this planet) do not care. This so called law is just that IMO, so called. I see no evidence to this purported claim of some "law".

RunningDeer
18th September 2015, 21:46
I'll just say !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=24369&uid=2488&d=1442443999
Picture doesn't show, Maria. Taking a wild guess from your album...it's this one.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/sophia_zpshyjbxh2c.jpg


RunningDeer :wave:

Maria Stade
19th September 2015, 08:59
I'll just say !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=24369&uid=2488&d=1442443999
Picture doesn't show, Maria. Taking a wild guess from your album...it's this one.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/sophia_zpshyjbxh2c.jpg


RunningDeer :wave:

:thumb: Thats the one ! Thank you ! And enjoy !

Daozen
19th September 2015, 10:50
They could be erudite at times and bigots too, many amusing similarities, overall though they were caring, this one wouldn't be called a parent in my book, a grammatically challenged cyborg-human-pet keeping selfish-time-lord, would be my long winded title for her. She's all me me me.

This is it. I think the 'requested letter' is for real. It's so out of touch, you couldn't make it up. Very different from Shane's writing style. It's like the European aristocratic attitude times 100. I don't think he cares who believes or doesn't. He is probably saturated on emails already, so I doubt he'll make the effort to 'defend' himself.

For someone "out of touch" she certainly knows a lot about people sitting around on their computers and attending (alternative) conferences....(???) The writing style is exactly the same. Truly it is. Of course the message and content are different, since Shane is writing his posts from a place of disclosure and of helping humanity while "Cassandra" is supposedly the personification of the Dark Side. Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

I don't need Shane to defend himself. I'm really enjoying his blog -- still reading -- but I just don't believe this letter is for real. NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog -- people whose life spans don't even amount to a day in her life. The European aristocratic "attitude" might be correct -- but the communication of it is not, IMO. An exercise, a motivational tool, a call to arms....maybe.

Exactly. Shane has been clear that his blog is an exercise in creative fiction anyway. Like a collaborative hologram.


Interesting, though, that in Greek Mythology Cassandra was the Trojan daughter of King Priam -- condemned to always speaking the truth in her prophecy -- but having no-one believe her!

Maybe that is actually her.


NO reason for a Ruler of the World to communicate to a few thousand people reading an obscure blog

They have to reveal their intent. It's the law.

I keep reading that this is the "law" but where is this law written, and why would they comply with this particular must-disclose-somewhere law, but not the law of non-violation of free will?

And as to the pat answer to the free-will violation question I've read bandied about here and there, I really object to the notion that "We" collectively consented at some point to this oppressive, murderous regime/matrix, particularly when consent (according to the Ruiner's blog) seems to have been given thousands of years ago by our ancestors, not those of us on the planet today.

First, I'm not sure why we would have to pay for the "sins of our fathers," so to speak. Shouldn't the individual have his/her own right to consent/not consent? Second, if WE are actually our own ancestors but can't remember due to the reincarnation trap/mind-wipe cycle, it seems that free will/consent are both illusory and we are stuck in this hellish cycle with no end. Consent, if it is to mean anything at all, must be Informed Consent.

Informed Consent, according to the modern understanding of it (at least in the health care and Nuremberg trial arenas), requires five elements before it can be said to have been given. It requires: (1) full disclosure (i.e., disclosure of all risks and benefits of the proposed course of action); (2) voluntarism (the chooser must be free from all coercion or unfair persuasions); (3) capacity (the chooser must be able to make decisions and not be incapacitated due to age, infirmity, or other mental incapacity (perhaps mind control/entrainment would be considered here too); (4) understanding (the chooser must comprehend all available choices); and (5) decision (the chooser must have the ultimate authority himself/herself to make or reject the choice proposed.

Seems to me that none of these five requirements for consent have been met. So why not just admit that this is a false "LAW" that has never been followed -- and that if that law is violated continuously, then why would the law of disclosure ever need to be followed?

In my opinion, organized crime has been making its own laws -- and no one seems to be policing it for violations of some supposed Universal ones.

You are right that it is not fair Awakeningmom, and liberties are being taken. I still think telling us (even once) on an obscure blog constitutes informing us, and thus consent if we don't act.

"I don't like it any more than you do."

Regardless of the finer points of galactic law, it looks like we are going to have to claw back (or walk into) our freedom step by step. Non consent, revocation of subliminal contracts, walking away from corporations... All we can do is push towards critical mass on all fronts, ceaselessly.

It is coming. Many of us can feel it.

Light is invading this realm. Not just from the centre of the galaxy. It's from the mysterious core of the Earth itself, and the heart of humanity, which is somewhere in the depths of the chakras.

O1fHxPY3TJo

Rachel
19th September 2015, 13:11
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Bill Ryan
19th September 2015, 15:21
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There's a full transcript of the earlier show with Thomas Williams and Drake (28 June, 2015), here, in which some of this material was discussed:

http://mediafire.com/download/3u4lsb9keix9mq5/The+Future+Choice+for+Humanity.pdf

I've also uploaded it to the Avalon server (same file, different filename):

http://projectavalon.net/Thomas_Williams_and_Drake_28_June_2015_The_Future_ Choice_for_Humanity.pdf

The audio is here:

http://mediafire.com/download/s1a0i627hzsjs25/HUMANITY+SHOW.mp3

awakeningmom
19th September 2015, 16:40
Daozen,
I just don't see how disclosing plans to perhaps a few thousand alternative thinkers on an obscure blog constitutes "disclosure" to the collective? 7 billion people are considered informed by way of a blog they have likely never heard of? Again, if consent and disclosure are considered done by technicalities and tricks, both are illusory.

I do hope you are correct that "light" is invading this realm. Some days I do feel like there is something positive afoot -- the energy feels "good" -- but then I look at the mainstream news or even the alternative news that tells me about the ongoing illegal wars done by executive orders in the middle east and the various legal defeats for the opponents of vaccines and GMO's, etc -- and I see that the Dark Side is proceeding without apparent concern. Are these desperate, last ditch efforts for control? Or are we in denial/fooling ourselves? Not sure yet.

I do like the Ruiner's blog. I think he has a positive message and a positive outlook -- very impressive considering the dark things he has supposedly witnessed throughout his life. I just hope it's not more hopium (although hopium still feels good). When I start to see with my own eyes REALLY positive things happening in the world (e.g., the arrest of the PNAC 9-11 perpetrators, military personnel refusing to fight en mass, complete exposure and removal of the high-level pedophile rings, an end to forced vaccination, Hilary Clinton and Jeb Bush both stepping out of the race, etc.) then I'll know something truly remarkable is happening.

gripreaper
19th September 2015, 16:51
I'm going to write something about this in more detail one day. Here is my take after back engineering history as far back as possible with the available resources, using triangulated presumptions the further back we go, where the available historic references are fewer and hard to come by. But let's just say:

There was an off planet intrusion into the evolution of the indigenous beings on planet earth, many thousands of years ago. These beings brought technologies we did not have at the time. They mated with the indigenous peoples and developed a hybrid race. So while they mated with the indigenous peoples, they also furthered a leap in our evolution.

Whether we consented to this or not, we participated. What we have now is a hybrid race where all of us carry the DNA of these interlopers, as well as having benefited from the additional technologies which they brought.

They claimed a divine right to rule over us. Their divine right as parents is because we came forth from the mating of the indigenous with these interlopers, and we have benefited from this incestuous relationship and the technologies, and we have not rebutted it. We have acquiesced to it through supporting this system, so in essence, we are in agreement with it.

Now, you might still say we did not receive full disclosure, so therefore the agreement is null and void? Well, it becomes null and void when you rebut it energetically and quit supporting it, quit drawing the benefits and privileges from this incestuous relationship, and stand sovereign, self responsible and self actualized. You do this with every thought and every action every day.

If these controllers offer up some law of their own making, where they tell us what they are going to do and we just continue on with the status quo, asleep and lethargic, acting as ignorant piglets, then why would anyone expect them to relinquish their status as owners of planet earth?

Now, these interlopers would have liked to maintain their pure bloodline, and have continued to try and restore this bloodline for thousands of years. Their agendas include some form of further hybridization of this planet and the further altering of the hybrid DNA. Some might speculate they want to repopulate this planet with a whole new species, while others speculate that they have restored their bloodlines and their technology and no longer need or want this planet, and are therefore leaving.

Regardless, along every point in history, although there was much resistance to the control grid, these gods who laid claim to this planet, have persevered and maintained their agenda multi generationally, and those who have resisted have failed to get their own fellow empathic human brothers and sisters to join in and generate enough inertia to change the trajectory of earths future.

These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How many avatars do you know who have the energetic presence to even use the minor Siddhis of claireaudience, clairesentience, and clairevoyance? How many avatars do you know who have the powers of the higher Siddhis, of bi-location, remote viewing, and teleportation?

How many of us consciously enter the delta brain wave state while in an awake meditative consciousness, and not just while sleeping? How many of us have reached the state of Samadhi and are no longer stuck in Samsara? Do we even realize the power of a single pure intention of the heart, a willingness to be harmless and empathic to all living beings?

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.

If they want to mock us and laugh at us, they certainly will and do, and we have shown ourselves to be weak, manipulated slaves when we act as indigent children. Go to the mirror. If we want to change it, then we start with ourselves and our very next thought. Take pause, and muster up some pure energy and filter it through the heart chakra. Then send out that pure intention. That's the path, the opening ante for the game.

awakeningmom
19th September 2015, 18:03
Regardless, along every point in history, although there was much resistance to the control grid, these gods who laid claim to this planet, have persevered and maintained their agenda multi generationally, and those who have resisted have failed to get their own fellow empathic human brothers and sisters to join in and generate enough inertia to change the trajectory of earths future.

These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How many avatars do you know who have the energetic presence to even use the minor Siddhis of claireaudience, clairesentience, and clairevoyance? How many avatars do you know who have the powers of the higher Siddhis, of bi-location, remote viewing, and teleportation?

How many of us consciously enter the delta brain wave state while in an aware meditative consciousness, and not just while sleeping? How many of us have reached the state of Samadhi and are no longer stuck in Samsara? Do we even realize the power of a single pure intention of the heart, a willingness to be harmless and empathic to all living beings?

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.

If they want to mock us and laugh at us, they certainly will and do, and we have shown ourselves to be weak, manipulated slaves when we act as indigent children. Go to the mirror. If we want to change it, then we start with ourselves and our very next thought. Take pause, and muster up some pure energy and filter it through the heart chakra. Then send out that pure intention. That's the path, the opening ante for the game.


This is why I tend to feel really discouraged. As you say, Grip, throughout history, there has always been a small number of people resisting the agenda. But this small group has continuously failed to get their fellow empathic brothers and sisters to join in. This is STILL happening today, and I just don't see the size of this continuing resistance movement growing quickly enough to form a critical mass or a 100th monkey type-situation before it's too late. I hate to be such a downer. I wish I felt otherwise. But personally, I've tried to talk to friends and family about various so-called conspiracies, I have also published articles and supported various activist efforts to fight various wrongs. But in this external effort at resistance -- or attempt to get fellow empathic humans to wake up -- I've lost friends, and many within my own family refuse to talk to me about these "crazy notions." They tell me I have "too much time on my hands." I know this is not atypical for many of us.

So when most external efforts to rally others fail, I think many finally realize that the only thing left to do is to Look/Go within. Yet, going within -- and figuring out how to realize our own power(s) -- is slow going too (at least for me).

What I mean is, many people seem to be able to meditate and/or achieve some level of psychic/psi powers easily/naturally. Maybe these skills have always been apparent to them. But for many others, myself included, there seems to be a block. Too much fluoride? Too much time in the control matrix? Too happy in my own personal enslavement situation? Maybe.

I've tried (and still try) meditation, yoga, tarot, astrology, and I've learned a number of exercises to move my energy/chakras. I have even tried some entheogens (sp?). But so far, the most I seem to be able to do is to predict with some accuracy who will call me that day -- or who it is calling me when the phone rings across the room. A start, but pretty slow-going. My spontaneous OBE's ended when I was about 7. I can't seem to figure out how to get them going again.

My point is this: I know these psi skills are latent in all human beings. I also know how important they are for all of us to (re) learn them. But I'm already down the rabbit hole and I am still having problems connecting to my "Siddhi" skills (never heard that word so I hope I am using it correctly here). So how can I expect others who haven't even accepted that there's a shadow government/control matrix in place to start developing these abilities that are so critical to our liberation?

I know the answer is to stop worrying about what others are doing (or not doing) and to "look in the mirror" and work on myself. But it's hard not to worry about what others are or are not doing when it is apparent that a small group of people throughout history alone has never managed to stop what's happening. Like it or not, it seems that the intentions/actions/Will of the majority -- of the collective -- matter a great deal.

I'm not disagreeing with you Grip -- I am always so thrilled when you post anything and I read everything you write. You have a lot of wisdom and I'm grateful that you are willing to share it with those of us far less along the path than you are. I'm just frustrated that I can't make things happen for me - or for others -- faster. I feel like there's a deadline approaching and we are (I am) still not where we (I) need to be.

Limor Wolf
19th September 2015, 18:18
Originally posted by Gripreaper: " These interlopers know how to use symbolism, ritual, blood sacrifice, microwave entrainment, fiat debt commerce, media, and entertainment to keep us subservient and to distract us from our own true power with our connection to source. They use this power in a satanic way, the same power we have, with much success.

We indigenous empathic souls barely recognize that this power exists. We can't fathom the degree of evil that is used by these bloodlines, to manipulate the energetic matrix for their own personal aggrandizement, and to use earth as a loosh farm where they vampire all energy and resources for themselves.

How we shift the energetics and come into our own power, is to rebuke and rebut the energetic trusts put in place by these bloodlines, imbed a new intention with pure heart, the highest and best outcome for all sentient souls on planet earth, and then stop feeding the beast your energy and supporting the slavery control grid.


Your words are very highly true and accurate, and of most importance at this time, Gripreaper, thank you very much for that . This ought to be well understood, our energetic consent is needed and is drawn in many hidden and subtle ways, diabolic pockets of entrapment, bones are being thrown for us to fetch, doors to be open and consumption and manifestation for other's purposes to be made..

Time to learn the art of subtle energies and doing our own shared creation

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75298-A--very--short-manifesto-by-an-Israeli&p=962233&viewfull=1#post962233

Many good Blessings ~

Limor

Daozen
20th September 2015, 08:04
Some days I do feel like there is something positive afoot -- the energy feels "good" -- but then I look at the mainstream news or even the alternative news that tells me about the ongoing illegal wars done by executive orders in the middle east and the various legal defeats for the opponents of vaccines and GMO's, etc -- and I see that the Dark Side is proceeding without apparent concern. Are these desperate, last ditch efforts for control? Or are we in denial/fooling ourselves? Not sure yet.

I'm not sure yet either. I think both sides are making a big effort. So I will just keep on until I'm sure we've won. I think alt media keeps people in a state of short term trauma when we should be ready for a longer haul. I don't think it'll be easy. One thing I decided recently is I will spend less time online, and more time in nature or at work.

vortexpoint
20th September 2015, 10:15
I don't know if it's relevant but I would be interested to know if any of those groups, projects and cults that Shane had experience of had time travel tech and if so, how was it implemented?

Old Wolf
20th September 2015, 10:48
Thanks a bunch for the interview Shane :) Love hearing it all.

Kindly.

turiya
20th September 2015, 10:49
Cross-posted from another thread... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=1000767&viewfull=1#post1000767), and also on the Kerry Cassidy / Shane interview thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85125-Shane-The-Ruiner-s-interview-with-Kerry-Cassidy-8-Sept-2015&p=1000768&viewfull=1#post1000768).



Shane [akaThe Ruiner] Interview with Thomas Williams, 15 Sept 2015

Going over the Shane / Thomas Williams interview, there is quite a bit there that needs to be commented on.

First off, I have not heard Thomas Williams [nor Kerry Cassidy, for that matter] ask Shane specifically about what were the specific details of what his Illuminati education consisted of - from the age of 4 on up.

For example, when Thomas Williams asks Shane about the early history, 13,000 years ago (and 26,000 years ago) of the Dracos being on this planet. The information that Shane provides is pretty well found to be coinciding with the Annunaki Fantasy story that can be found in the Zecharia Sitchin books. Those that are quite familiar with this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas) should be aware that Bill Ryan (edit: & NOT Kerry Cassidy) was told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but had channeled some of that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing). Source found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55543-The-Anunnaki-their-history-on-earth-where-are-they-today&p=632871&viewfull=1#post632871).

So, from the interview, it is found that Shane feels that he had pretty much avoided being "mind-controlled", hypnotized, by his Illuminati teachers, or by his so-called Dracos Reptilian handlers that attempted to do the same with him. It need not be pointed out, but I will anyway, much programming by societies is done during a youth's very early years. They grab hold of the child as soon as possible to ensure that the child is a well conditioned conformist.

Normally, at least in this country, the public school system is known as the "The Public Fool System" because of the simple fact that this is where the brainwashing of the young minds takes place to have individuals conditioned to accept the mores of the culture. And so Shane admits that he began his indoctrination at the young age of 4-years-old. So, the question I have for Shane is the following:

Can you really say that 'none' of that early Illuminati education you were exposed to & impressed with, had not entered into the deeper recesses of your own mind? Because as you relate the 13,000 years ago history, and originally 26,000 years ago - now, this lines up, way too much, with the Nibiru cycle found in Sitchin's books. Not to mention King Anu, Enki and the rest? Was this part of your early Illuminati education? That you have since repeated in the Thomas Williams interview? Its very well known that Zecharia Sitchin, btw, was an Illuminati member as shown in the following video clip.

In other words, was the Zecharia Sitchin information part of your Illuminati education programming?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wWxqXashBo

Billy
20th September 2015, 11:26
There was an off planet intrusion into the evolution of the indigenous beings on planet earth, many thousands of years ago. These beings brought technologies we did not have at the time. They mated with the indigenous peoples and developed a hybrid race. So while they mated with the indigenous peoples, they also furthered a leap in our evolution.

Whether we consented to this or not, we participated. What we have now is a hybrid race where all of us carry the DNA of these interlopers, as well as having benefited from the additional technologies which they brought.

They claimed a divine right to rule over us. Their divine right as parents is because we came forth from the mating of the indigenous with these interlopers, and we have benefited from this incestuous relationship and the technologies, and we have not rebutted it. We have acquiesced to it through supporting this system, so in essence, we are in agreement with it.

Now, you might still say we did not receive full disclosure, so therefore the agreement is null and void? Well, it becomes null and void when you rebut it energetically and quit supporting it, quit drawing the benefits and privileges from this incestuous relationship, and stand sovereign, self responsible and self actualized. You do this with every thought and every action every day.


Thank you for this gripreaper.

I have always had a problem with agreements, oaths or contracts that have been created in our distant past between our forefathers and other beings. Not just our distant past, as i include modern day agreements made between certain shadow governments and other beings. My opinion is that those agreements have held humanity in bondage and have limited our true potential.

When sharing his take on humanities history, Shane has said that after the Atlantean times, there was an agreement made between the Humans and the Draco with the Elders being the overseers of this agreement. He said the Elders advised against this agreement but they went ahead. After this contract was agreed the parents were created to implement the agreement.
(Please correct me if i am not correct here Shane)

We are told from one of the parents, Cassandra, who said in her letter to Shane, before she decided to leave her earthy existence.


You've damn near voided your agreement with us by inspiring this fiasco so tread carefully.

I am still not sure if this statement was directed at Shane personally or if it included those whom his Blog was originally intended for, or did it include all those who would like to see an end to the controllers hold over humanity, to bring about changes with all previous agreements null and void. My thoughts are, that the parents can call this inspiration for change, a fiasco, if they wish.
I say whoever it was directed at. Well done :clapping:


In the recent Thomas Williams interview, Shane said he was present at a meeting earlier this year with some humans, all the parents apart from one, the Draco king Anu, his two sons, i cannot remember just now if he said there were elders present also. But Shane did say that the Elders were not active and their observation of the agreement has no effect.

At this meeting Anu declared that he had a change of mind and was no longer supporting the plan????? did Anu not just break the agreement?????? Making it now null and void ?????? one son also agreed with his fathers decision and now does not support the agreement and the other son decided to attempt to continue on with a now, broken agreement. Dysfunctional families or what. As above so below. :facepalm:

I do believe deep inside that, as above so below means something much more and much better than all this drama. :heart:

We are told, After the meeting some of the parents chose to also not continue with the agreement and left their earthly abode, I say, Journey well.
More followed over a few months, Journey well.
Again does that not make the agreement null and void ?
This left three parents who chose to continue with a now broken agreement. Journey well. Hopefully you will follow those who have gone before you.
May you find your way home back to source, where you meet all that is that also created the ones who created you, May our Mother embrace you all as long lost children.

I do understand there is much more for us to do but if what Shane says is a truth, should Humanity not be breathing a great sigh of relief at this time?

I have concerns that this drama may be giving humanity a false sense of hope yet again, Hopefully Shane can address this in more detail in the near future.

I thank Shane for his consistency over the years, his love for mother earth and humanity, his gentleness and bravery.


May we all find peace on earth. :heart:

Bill Ryan
20th September 2015, 11:35
Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy were both told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but was fed that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing). Source found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55543-The-Anunnaki-their-history-on-earth-where-are-they-today&p=632871&viewfull=1#post632871).



I confirm that.

(Note: I was told this personally, btw, in 2010. Kerry was not there at that time.)

A clarification, however. It's not that Sitchin didn't translate anything. He did know Sumerian, and he wasn't just taking dictation. :)

But when translating an ancient text, there are so many nuances and unknowns that each time he encountered something that wasn't very clear, or in which the context was ambiguous, that's when he got his 'interpretative advice'.

In my own words: Sitchin took the original text, did the best academic translation he could, and then it was 'spun'.

This doesn't imply any deception on Sitchin's part. I believe he felt he was being 'assisted'. But in my very strong personal opinion, not everything in Sitchin's books can be taken as factual.

turiya
20th September 2015, 14:16
Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy were both told by a close associate of Zecharia Sitchin's (looks like this could very well be the one & only Jordan Maxwell), and that Zecharia Sitchin did not actually translate the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets, but was fed that information from an Annunaki entity through the method of channeling known as Automatic Writing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing). Source found here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55543-The-Anunnaki-their-history-on-earth-where-are-they-today&p=632871&viewfull=1#post632871).



I confirm that.

(Note: I was told this personally, btw, in 2010. Kerry was not there at that time.)

A clarification, however. It's not that Sitchin didn't translate anything. He did know Sumerian, and he wasn't just taking dictation. :)

But when translating an ancient text, there are so many nuances and unknowns that each time he encountered something that wasn't very clear, or in which the context was ambiguous, that's when he got his 'interpretative advice'.

In my own words: Sitchin took the original text, did the best academic translation he could, and then it was 'spun'.

This doesn't imply any deception on Sitchin's part. I believe he felt he was being 'assisted'. But in my very strong personal opinion, not everything in Sitchin's books can be taken as factual.


Thanks, Bill, for that clarification.

I used the phrase, "the Annunaki Fantasy story" as it is used in the Chris Thomas' books & essay material. He also agrees with you as far as Zecharia Sitchin being as true as you say.

This particular phrase was used, because through his research, he found that it was a small group of Annunaki that had traveled back in time to dictate a fictitious story, regarding human history (the Annunaki being the creator gods of humanity). The story was dictated to a Sumerian scribe who placed it within the cuneiform tablets. It was during the time that Chris Thomas did psychic healing work and a man came to him with some particular health issues & inability to sleep, as it appeared he was haunted with visions & a memory of what he was a part of in a past life.

Chris has the ability to scan the DNA of individuals. From there, he discovered that this particular client was an Annunaki (in past life) that had traveled back in time as one member of this Annunaki group. It was by sheer coincidence (if there really are any) that led him to stumble upon this particular event. He used the information about his client to do further research on the matter - the Annunaki traveling back in time to "plant" this particular "fantasy story". Hence, he has used the phrase "The Annunaki Fantasy story" in the writings of his research of the Akashic. It had nothing negative to do with Zecharia Sitchin.

Chris Thomas has always spoken well of Zecharia Sitchin.

awakeningmom
20th September 2015, 16:52
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

ulli
20th September 2015, 17:01
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

Good point here.
Once most people know How far the deception layers reach then nothing remains other than the question how do we now proceed to build a better world, given the fact that together we can pool our various talents and energies.

Delight
20th September 2015, 17:13
........... nothing remains other than the question how do we now proceed to build a better world, given the fact that together we can pool our various talents and energies.

YES. There are no ones I'd rather proceed to build and pool talents and energies and live with than people like us: We: the wonderful new story creators.


"There is a vast territory between what we're trying to leave behind, and where we want to go - and we don't have any maps for that territory." - Charles Eisenstein

Filmed in the fading light on the shores of Northern Scotland, this short film captures Charles Eisenstein in a moment of grief and reflection. The familiar story of the past is crumbling, while the new story has yet to arrive. In a time of social and ecological crisis, what can we as individuals do in this space between?

An African proverb states "sometimes you must get lost in order to find your way." Eisenstein invites us to embrace a radically different understanding of cause and effect, sounding a clarion call to surrender our old worldview of separation, so that we can finally create the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible.


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Ron Mauer Sr
20th September 2015, 17:28
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

I have given up on my search for truth and I am now looking for a good fantasy. ;)

Delight
20th September 2015, 17:32
I have given up on my search for truth and I am now looking for a good fantasy. ;)

I know that many could argue that there is not enough action in a chick flick but that is what I am writing for my fantasy!

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turiya
21st September 2015, 02:19
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

That's right 'mom'. Until you & the rest of us are fully awakened beings, then the story will be just that - a story. So, don't 'believe' in what anybody says. This is even what the awakened ones have said... Buddha himself has said it, "if you meet me on the road, then cut my head." Means, don't even 'believe' in what he says, trusting in oneself is all that is needed.

johnh
21st September 2015, 02:36
Men have a tendency to please their women. You know, the house is never big enough, her clothes are out of fashion, she never gets to vacation in the Bahamas. He just doesn't make enough money, so get out there and do whatever it takes, honey, including starting a war or two (and you know what you might get tonight if you clean out the garage). Oh yes, the divine women, where are they? In the plans of the Tavistock Institute then in the media complete with spokes persons well groomed.

So, the illuminati have taken us to the divine feminine. Steered us cleverly. And there goes the core family with it since it takes a village and all. Even this thread had to end up here. Muddy the water enough (chaos) and encourage/direct the solution.

Ron Mauer Sr
21st September 2015, 02:57
Men have a tendency to please their women. You know, the house is never big enough, her clothes are out of fashion, she never gets to vacation in the Bahamas. He just doesn't make enough money, so get out there and do whatever it takes, honey, including starting a war or two (and you know what you might get tonight if you clean out the garage). Oh yes, the divine women, where are they? In the plans of the Tavistock Institute then in the media complete with spokes persons well groomed.

So, the illuminati have taken us to the divine feminine. Steered us cleverly. And there goes the core family with it since it takes a village and all. Even this thread had to end up here. Muddy the water enough (chaos) and encourage/direct the solution.

The divine feminine and divine masculine energies coexist in all of life, both male and female but are rarely balanced. IMHO, one of the reasons we are here is to seek balance.

The currently dominant male warrior energy needs to give way to the feminine energies of respect for life, compassion, intuition and nurturing.

Females are the givers of life, and that must be very special.

:focus:

Callista
21st September 2015, 03:14
My small offering recently published on Zen Gardner might be relevant here:


The Confusion of Deconstruction

by Callista Summerfield-Berlinghof

Guest Contributor, ZenGardner.com (http:// www.ZenGardner.com)

I thought I should call this piece “The Dilemma of the Fence Sitter” but the difference between a fence-sitter and what I am experiencing is something else. The fence-sitter weighs up the conditions on both sides of the fence and then makes a choice. My position is that of getting to the fence, sitting on the fence, and realizing that what is behind me no longer has a place in my reality.

“I look to the familiar and all I see is chaos and confusion.”

“I don’t like seeing the familiar deconstruct before my eyes.”

“If my familiar is no longer acceptable to me, where is my new familiar?”

I sit on the fence and peer into the unknown, hoping for something that will materialize that I can recognize.

“How do I imaginate a new familiar?”

I want to rebel against everything familiar because it has become foreign to me. The rebelling is a useful device for breaking away from the old. Rebellious rage enables revolution.

I sit on the fence in boiling revolution, knowing that even if I THINK about the old familiar, I will turn into a pillar of salt from sheer boredom.

There’s no looking back…

_____

Leon Kovalyov
22nd September 2015, 00:17
Greeting good people, I would like to share with all of you a path away from trans-humanism and back to nature, which the Ruiner spoke of. It was communicated through a series of books called the Ringing Cedars. Ancient Vedic knowledge preserved and written about in a series of 9 books translated from Russian into English.

These books have inspired hundreds of villages all across Russian and other countries...of people coming together and forming kin domains and their spaces of love.

These are similar to eco-villages but different/not communal in a sense, but like homesteading which was occurring in united states in the 19th century. There is magic in these books, which will spark a flame that will not be put out.
So much knowledge preserved from rearing children to aliens, to growing food, to teleportation, to finding out who we are and who our ancestors were....
I cried, laughed and have not been the same ever since. Truly the best I have seen. I hope you all take the time to

You may find these at the following location and I on occassion I have also seen them at some Barnes and Nobles stores. There are excerpts of some chapters online as well.
www.ringingcedars.com

OneLove, Leon

Realeyes
22nd September 2015, 12:59
Thanks to Chloe (who is Thomas' partner) she has hand typed up the entire interview with Shane and Thomas. You can download the pdf for free on this link.:heart:

https://yadi.sk/i/YY86AvyZjEfwQ

Shannon
22nd September 2015, 14:17
The problem with Chris Thomas' theory on time-traveling tricksters is that, if given any credence, then there's just no point in spending any time trying to figure out our true history. Researchers like Graham Hancock and alternative archeologists like Michael Cremo might as well give up, since much of the ancient relics or structures they are uncovering are just as likely to have been planted by time traveling bad guys with an agenda to steer us off course than evidence of a true alternative history that has been hidden from us. Under Thomas' theory, the Nag Hammadi could have easily been planted too, so there goes the whole Gnostic-Archon "fantasy."

This is getting so exhausting.

That's right 'mom'. Until you & the rest of us are fully awakened beings, then the story will be just that - a story. So, don't 'believe' in what anybody says. This is even what the awakened ones have said... Buddha himself has said it, "if you meet me on the road, then cut my head." Means, don't even 'believe' in what he says, trusting in oneself is all that is needed.

So true. Thanks for bringing that Buddha quote up.

I find all of this so interesting and fascinating that I can't help myself but want to read and hear and see whatever I can get my hands but I have to remind myself to stop wanting to believe this or that, I have to remind myself that all these stories are just that stories and I will not know what is real and true unless I look inside myself.
Thank you.