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KevBoh
13th October 2015, 14:51
A couple of days after I watch Vladimir Putin asking who armed ISIS.. clearly a dig at America, and also the UK in terms of stating that who buys the Oil off them knowing it comes from ISIS, a dig at the UK and US. I honestly believe that Putin is the most honest and more straightforward than any of the other so called World Leaders. I can't seem to find the video anywhere, I seen it on facebook a few days ago. Low and behold, as I was amusing myself on the 'lamestream' media that is the Daily Mirror online in the UK.. Apparently they have found MH17 Malaysian plane that went down 18 months ago, and yes, you guessed it, Russia blew it out of the Sky.

Also this coincides in what looks like a bit of Kidology being played out between Russian, and the UK and US, both are competing as to who can take out more ISIS bases via drone strikes in a day...

This is the article if anyone is interested. Don't be fooled though, I just think it dis-informative Journalism designed to deviate us from the truth.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mh17-crash-report-live-updates-6624607#rlabs=6%20rt$sitewide%20p$8

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mh17-crash-report-live-updates-6624607#rlabs=6%20rt$sitewide%20p$8

Morbid
13th October 2015, 15:05
ha! mirror. such ironic name for the paper. i doubt anyone remotely sensible reads that utter rubbish these days. maybe few yobs and geezers..

Cidersomerset
13th October 2015, 15:07
I think this is interview you are referring . There is a lot of info on the current
appropriate threads. But that might be a little to much info for some...LOL
and I understand that.



Putin explains US supports ISIS

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Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73055-Malaysian-Plane-MH17-shot-down-with-over-295-on-board.-But-by-who&p=1009387#post1009387

Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Putin, and World War III
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III/page36

KevBoh
13th October 2015, 15:11
ha! mirror. such ironic name for the paper. i doubt anyone remotely sensible reads that utter rubbish these days. maybe few yobs and geezers..

Like I said, I was amusing myself :)

Baby Steps
13th October 2015, 15:18
The Russian Agenda is SELF PRESERVATION and DEVELOPMENT

- They therefore have a strong interest in preventing Islamic Fundamentalism, which could infect their own muslim community
- They wish to see stable states around their borders who are not aligned with their enemies- ie buffer states
- They wish to see stability around he globe to promote their own development
- They wish to develop closer commercial links with Europe, particular Germany
- They wish for a strong and stable leadership at home
- They wish for a independent financial system that is not controlled by corrupt international Banking interests
- They wish to continue developing their own Medical capabilities without the malign influence of corrupt western pharmaceutical companies.
- They wish the truth of how corrupt our system is vis a vis 9-11, Money, Terror etc to be revealed fully.

NONE OF THE ABOVE REPRESENT THE SLIGHTEST THREAT TO AMERICAN PEOPLE

AMERICAN PEOPLE PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THE LIE THAT THEY THREATEN YOU. THEY ARE ONLY A DANGER TO THE CORRUPT ELITE-our common enemy!

God bless

KevBoh
13th October 2015, 15:23
The Russian Agenda is SELF PRESERVATION and DEVELOPMENT

- They therefore have a strong interest in preventing Islamic Fundamentalism, which could infect their own muslim community
- They wish to see stable states around their borders who are not aligned with their enemies- ie buffer states
- They wish to see stability around he globe to promote their own development
- They wish to develop closer commercial links with Europe, particular Germany
- They wish for a strong and stable leadership at home
- They wish for a independent financial system that is not controlled by corrupt international Banking interests
- They wish to continue developing their own Medical capabilities without the malign influence of corrupt western pharmaceutical companies.
- They wish the truth of how corrupt our system is vis a vis 9-11, Money, Terror etc to be revealed fully.

NONE OF THE ABOVE REPRESENT THE SLIGHTEST THREAT TO AMERICAN PEOPLE

AMERICAN PEOPLE PLEASE DO NOT FALL FOR THE LIE THAT THEY THREATEN YOU. THEY ARE ONLY A DANGER TO THE CORRUPT ELITE-our common enemy!

God bless

Wonderfully said :)

jaybee
13th October 2015, 15:35
Apparently they have found MH17 Malaysian plane that went down 18 months ago, and yes, you guessed it, Russia blew it out of the Sky.


Aren't you being a little premature with your accusation -

In this article with the "summary of the Dutch Safety Board account of the MH17 crash, and the reaction to its report."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/oct/13/mh17-crash-report-ukraine-live-updates

the last bit says..


The report did not deal with “blame and culpability”. A second criminal investigation by the Dutch prosecutor’s office, scheduled to conclude early in 2016, is expected to answer the most politically charged question: who shot down flight MH17?


with all the demonizing of Russia at the moment in the MSM - caution is advised..and you wouldn't want to add to the feeding frenzy of anti-Russia propaganda unnecessarily - would you...?

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Baby Steps
13th October 2015, 16:16
The Russians may have had good reason to shoot down the flight. They may have feared a bomb or Bio attack. reasons for their fear:

1. There were TWO rogue Malaysian 777's that they knew about, but were untraceable- one at Diego Garcia and one in Israel
2. The flight diverted its path towards Russia after passing Kiev
3. The Flight was escorted by fighters - why in hell would that be??
4. The Flight was cancelled as per the below - so the Russians would have known that the flight could have been 'denied'

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The dastardly plan was to get rid of MH70 and its contents and pretend that it was MH17. It relied on the Russians to shoot it down, so that they could be blamed. However it would be easy to have a back up of Ukranian BUK's or Air-to-air missiles to make absolutely sure it crashed in the right area. The only way thay could have pulled this horror off is if the MH17 passengers were disposed of before setting off.

In other words it was a feint to draw a Russian reaction. They took the bait.

Well, that is one possible scenario....

Tyy1907
13th October 2015, 18:27
It all boils down to details we have no way of knowing for sure. Personally I keep an open mind and keep it all on the back burner. I would also like to think that Putin has good Intentions on the whole compared to the crooks that comprise the US govt

Citizen No2
13th October 2015, 21:39
People can, and do, change, I know that as a Truth.


I'm just not so sure that Mr. Putin is one of those people.

Behold here comes the dreamer, and we shall see what will become of his dreams.



Regards.

ZooLife
14th October 2015, 00:07
There is an info war going on for the minds of the people and it's not altruistic.

Taking sides between powerful governments in which one has not directly experienced their inner workings and hidden agendas is a fool's game.

But by all means, go forth......

Ewan
14th October 2015, 09:21
Well it certainly didn't say the 'Russians did it'.

Though I can accept many Mirror readers would read 'Dutch investigators said a Russian-made BUK missile exploded' and see the first word jump into their conciousness as some kind of fact.

Daozen
14th October 2015, 10:12
It's a rolling good cop/bad cop routine being played out every 5-8 years. Obama used to be the political messiah, much better than that evil Bush guy. Now Putin is the hero, much better than that evil Obama guy.

We need to turn away and make our own systems. We can govern ourselves just fine.

http://intellectualconservative.com/wp-content/uploads/vldmptncsr.jpg

idiit
14th October 2015, 10:19
We need to turn away and make our own systems. We can govern ourselves just fine.


^ exactly. we don't need the reptilian hierarchy system. we don't need rulers.

perhaps this one concept is more essential than any other in freeing the human population from the ai/reptilian enslavement system.

it's a mass consciousness thang.

^ once joe six-pack gets this we are on our way to liberty.

Sunny-side-up
14th October 2015, 15:32
A couple of days after I watch Vladimir Putin asking who armed ISIS.. clearly a dig at America, and also the UK in terms of stating that who buys the Oil off them knowing it comes from ISIS, a dig at the UK and US. I honestly believe that Putin is the most honest and more straightforward than any of the other so called World Leaders. I can't seem to find the video anywhere, I seen it on facebook a few days ago. Low and behold, as I was amusing myself on the 'lamestream' media that is the Daily Mirror online in the UK.. Apparently they have found MH17 Malaysian plane that went down 18 months ago, and yes, you guessed it, Russia blew it out of the Sky.

Also this coincides in what looks like a bit of Kidology being played out between Russian, and the UK and US, both are competing as to who can take out more ISIS bases via drone strikes in a day...

This is the article if anyone is interested. Don't be fooled though, I just think it dis-informative Journalism designed to deviate us from the truth.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mh17-crash-report-live-updates-6624607#rlabs=6%20rt$sitewide%20p$8

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mh17-crash-report-live-updates-6624607#rlabs=6%20rt$sitewide%20p$8

Just to prevent any confusion there, but I think:
Yes Malaysian flight MH17 wen't down/was downed but!
That flight was never lost,the one that is missing was Malaysian flight MH370!

Darla Ken Pearce
14th October 2015, 17:14
MSM is certainly painting Russia with the most damaging brush but I don't think it will do any good in the end. During the Iraq war when US news came from "embedded" reporters who could not write a single word of truth, I depended on Russian sources for news to find out what was really happening. Now with BRICS coming online and other intelligent moves, we have Putin invited by Syria, Iran, Iraq mopping up ISIS in short order. If that is not cause for celebration, I don't know what is...

Say what the MSM will ~ with their CIA propaganda machine in full swing about Putin and Russian intentions, he is not the one attempting to take out democratically elected leaders nor is he on some world-wide conquest for territory other than on the Internet where he is far, far ahead of the US with it's endless wars. He has the moral high ground and is winning hearts and minds and there is no doubt about that... knowing this is what makes the US/UK propaganda machine work overtime but it won't help. Truth will out.

While we won't be packing our bags for Russia anytime soon, I applaud Putin for his actions and disclosures about 911 as well. Too bad not enough Americans are paying attention. Bravo for his efforts!

ZooLife
15th October 2015, 04:29
A spoonful of sugar makes the Kool aide go down.

https://chattersley.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/kool_aid_man.jpg

Morbid
15th October 2015, 10:02
http://sputniknews.com/world/20151013/1028437455/mh17-russia-report-almaz-antey.html

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