View Full Version : The drone papers

Richard S.
15th October 2015, 14:37
The Intercept has obtained a cache of secret documents detailing the inner workings of the U.S. military’s assassination program in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia. The documents, provided by a whistleblower, offer an unprecedented glimpse into Obama’s drone wars.


Darla Ken Pearce
15th October 2015, 18:18
Assassinations R US.

These are important papers. They represent "crimes against humanity" using drones with no need for criminal charges, judge, jury or executioner.

Truly, a lethal game; a young man in Nevada operates a computer screen and joystick to perform assassinations and it's perfectly legal according to George W. Bush's White House circa 2001. These crimes have continued with even greater number of kills under the Obama Administration.

There is a movie documentary, "DRONES" (2014) that best illustrates what's been happening since then. It goes into further details and provides more information on this topic. While shocking to see how assassinations have been legalized by a government so used to committing crimes, even Congress hardly takes notice of "just one more." it also provides information from the viewpoint of both sides and how they hope to justify these murders.

I highly recommend watching it, if you get the chance. If you don't have access to the documentary, please read the reviews which are very enlightening as well.


Not sure if Netflix is carrying it but it is available with free trial membership here:

If there is any justice, we will at least see some key players in the dock at the International Criminal Court in the Hague for these "Crimes against Humanity." Cases only go there once other jurisdictions have failed to act, i.e., U.S. Courts or failing that, the United Nations. Another shock to me is that no one seems to care...since the targets are labeled "terrorists" with a very wide brush that includes children at weddings or in the vicinity of the target. Death of another child, just another "enemy combatant."

The thing is that if the United States can do this without being held accountable, what's to say the Russians or Chinese won't do the same to us. With every killing, there is an incitement for further wars.

It is my belief that US/UK people even if they are aware, do not really care what happens to so-called "Terrorists." Not realizing the full impact of these assassinations on their own moral high ground if such exists.

16th October 2015, 08:11
US spy chiefs hunt the new Snowden: Whistleblower leaks top secret drone assassination program that reveals how 90% of people killed in one 5-month spree WEREN'T targeted

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3274583/US-spy-chiefs-hunt-new-Snowden-Whistleblower-leaks-secret-drone-assassination-program-reveals-Obama-authorizies-kill.html#ixzz3oiNrT4D2

- Cache of top-secret security documents published by The Intercept
- The same team leaked files from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden
- The new cache of 'slides' details how President Obama clears a pilot-less drone assassination
- The source who leaked them described the process as 'outrageous'
- He or she has not been named, fearing a Snowden-like backlash
- The documents reveal that in one operation where 219 people were killed, only 35 - 15 percent - were intended targets
- The CIA and Pentagon officials are investigating the leak

The Intercept’s Jeremy Scahill, who wrote the story, writes: ‘Taken together, the secret documents lead to the conclusion that Washington’s 14-year high-value targeting campaign suffers from an over-reliance on signals intelligence, an apparently incalculable civilian toll, and - due to a preference for assassination rather than capture - an inability to extract potentially valuable intelligence from terror suspects’.

In CIA speak, drone killings are a way to ‘find, fix and finish’ its targets, according to leaked slides.

The information shows that during Operation Haymaker, a campaign in northeastern Afghanistan which ran between January 2012 and February 2013, some 219 people were killed by drones.

But just 35 were the intended targets, a mere 15 per cent.

During one five-month stretch of the operation, a staggering 90 per cent of those killed were not the intended target.

Despite this all the deaths were labelled EKIA, or ‘enemy killed in action’.

The source told The Intercept that anyone caught near the strike was ‘guilty by association’ and that there was ‘no guarantee that those persons deserved their fate’.

The papers also reveal that President Obama is given ‘baseball cards’ which have a suspect’s portrait and the key allegations against them on them to help him make up his mind.

The President takes on average 58 days to sign off on a kill and from there the US military has 60 days to carry it out.

Very revealing article. A suggested read.

A note on perspective. Terminating civilians is a common US practice since WWII. But US is not alone, all nations with adequate power practice this. Russia, China, Japan, India, Israel, Egypt, Syria, England, France...
What distinguish US from the others is the double-standards/hypocrisy.

Bear in mind that this kind of disclosure would have no political impact in Russia nor China. Therefore this is a positive indicator of the US liberal/free system (or what left of it).

17th October 2015, 02:36


This is an important leak by a whistleblower, who leaked this stuff yesterday, Thursday, Oct 15, 2015 and now this site has organized a doozy of info about it all.

A quote:

"DRONES ARE A TOOL, not a policy. The policy is assassination. While every president since Gerald Ford has upheld an executive order banning assassinations by U.S. personnel, Congress has avoided legislating the issue or even defining the word “assassination.”

This has allowed proponents of the drone wars to rebrand assassinations with more palatable characterizations, such as the term du jour, “targeted killings.”


"The Intercept granted the source’s request for anonymity because the materials are classified and because the U.S. government has engaged in aggressive prosecution of whistleblowers. The stories in this series will refer to the source as “the source.”


“This outrageous explosion of watchlisting — of monitoring people and racking and stacking them on lists, assigning them numbers, assigning them ‘baseball cards,’ assigning them death sentences without notice, on a worldwide battlefield — it was, from the very first instance, wrong,” the source said.


The articles in The Drone Papers were produced by a team of reporters and researchers from The Intercept that has spent months analyzing the documents.

The series is intended to serve as a long-overdue public examination of the methods and outcomes of America’s assassination program.

This campaign, carried out by two presidents through four presidential terms, has been shrouded in excessive secrecy.

The public has a right to see these documents not only to engage in an informed debate about the future of U.S. wars, both overt and covert, but also to understand the circumstances under which the U.S. government arrogates to itself the right to sentence individuals to death without the established checks and balances of arrest, trial, and appeal.

I'm reading it right now and am impressed with the work of this site.

Keep in mind that there already has been at least one (certainly more) drone attack in the US, in Indianapolis, where a house in a suburb was blown up, but the media attributed this to a mere "gas explosion", which is utter BS.

That drone strike was NO gas explosion, and the photos proved it. Info on that can be found here:

http://www.jimstone.is/circumvent.html ... (Home page)



This drone attack in America is a preview of our future. Do you want a future like this? I sure as sh*t don't!

We MUST stop this sh*t by stopping and arresting all the Cabal in the US, as well as most congress-bastards and senator-bastards, not to mention numerous CEOs of numerous fascist corporations.

17th October 2015, 23:32
It was RT news today on October 17th.

18th October 2015, 00:58

I now see that there WAS another post about the Drone Papers that predates my new thread about this...


...so, feel free to merge my new thread with the thread in the link above.

I DID check for threads on "Drone Papers" and it came up empty, hence I made a new thread about this ... yet there WAS a thread on it ... WTF? Oh, well.

18th October 2015, 01:29
Wow, mods!

How did you merge this thread so fast?

Oh, the NSA tipped you off, that's it, right? :ROFL:

18th October 2015, 03:03

Here is a Cliff Notes version of the salient points made in the Drone Papers.

18th October 2015, 13:47
Oh, the NSA tipped you off, that's it, right? :ROFL:
You got that backwards. We don't rely on the NSA for tips; rather they rely on us :ROFL:

18th October 2015, 20:57
For you people who don't have the time to go over to the intercept and wade through all the details and there is a lot. Here it is in a snap shot:


26th October 2015, 22:57