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Eric J (Viking)
27th October 2015, 09:16
There was no doubt in inner circles that a message had been received from space. It was sent in English. It was specific. It was so shocking it had to be suppressed.

by Jon Rappoport

It was eventually leaked, but the leak was stopped before the general public became aware of the message or its content.

The alien sender never referred to himself by name or disclosed his planet of origin.


Here is an excerpt from his communication:

“As strange as it may seem to you, I am not a prophet. Nor am I an evil invader.

“I come from a place that has developed along radically different lines.

“On my world, there is an unstoppable dedication to the advancement of the individual, and all institutions and structures are stripped of overarching influence.

“In parallel, technology has progressed toward that goal. Discoveries in energy production, for example, were channeled into delivering what you would call self-sufficiency… but not to nations or groups. Again, the individual has been the recipient. Every individual.

“The Group, as a concept, was exposed by several of our most keen philosophers, as an artifact devised in our distant past as a method for holding back the achievement and power of the individual.

“Think of the Group as foreshortened perspective in a painting. The depth of space is curtailed, the ceiling on consciousness is thus lowered.

“Several of our investigators, working on their own, discovered a centuries-old plot to foist the Group on us.

“The wealthy people who were heading up this conspiracy were exiled to far wastelands, with no hope of escape.

“Can you imagine a society that has progressed to the point where it is so decentralized that peace is an obvious given? Can you?

“I am not issuing any warning to you. Nor am I a messiah from the stars. I am not an ultimate authority. I cannot rescue you. You are in the process of melting down, but not from the overheating of your atmosphere. I’m talking about the meltdown into a planet-wide Group of bankrupt consciousness, a Group which is nevertheless confident that ‘peace and love’ are its objectives.

“This is a fallacy and a delusion, fostered by powerful men who see a way of placing you in thrall to mind control, just as your organized religions have done for thousands of years.

“I am an individual. I represent no one. Can you grasp that, or are you too far gone to even conceive the possibility?

“The so-called natural laws of your physics are merely one way of appreciating what is taking place in the universe. There are endless other ways — and on the world from which I’ve come, the technology combines obvious physical capabilities with the power of individual consciousness and imagination.

“You would perhaps call this magic. Many individuals can alter space and time. On their own, they can create energy.

“They are not part of any Group or code or plan or movement. There are no mass movements on my world. None.

“I have sent you images of that world. No doubt they will be censored and captured by your leaders.

“I do not need to be a member of a Group to care about your future. I do not need to represent a council or assembly or government. My world barely has a government.

“I send you this message with the hope that, at some point, some of you, as, yes, individuals will read it and give it the degree of credence it deserves.

“For you, everything appears to be about Groups. The good ones versus the bad ones. You have lost the ability to think in any other way. But those who control your destiny understand that, no matter the struggle, as long as it pits one Group against another, they have won and you have lost.

“In my world, I live entirely by choice. So does every other individual. Strange as it seems, war is an impossibility — for exactly that reason.

“There is no automatic equating of wealth with corruption, as you seem to accept.

“The technology of physical energy production, which on my planet makes the essentials of life available to every person, is not free. This probably shocks you. You believe that “free things” are the measure of humanity. On my world, the energy is available, and inexpensive, and anyone who works can easily afford it.

“Contrary to what you might imagine, this does not make us barbaric.

“You are devoted to an idea of mass unity. You believe this is good and true and that the ‘higher transcendence’ it offers is your best and last hope.

“When an authentic self-governing individual appears among you, you demand that he explain his achievements in terms of what they will offer to everyone else, as if, from the beginning, his only intent and motive force was satisfying the Group.

“I’m baffled at the depth of this delusion.

“If someone presented you with a philosophy that described how every individual could advance higher and farther, you would reject it out of hand as a corruption of thought.

“I’m sorry to disappoint you, but I have no prophetic ‘wisdom of the whole’ to impart, no message written in the sky. I’m just passing through.

“In one of your bibles, there is this statement: ‘Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.’ It is surely a noble idea. On my world, I have seen it in our past. But suppose there was no need for a person to lay down his life? Suppose individual creative power had taken on such fullness that sacrifice was largely outmoded?

“I wish you success, but now I must move along…”

http://humansarefree.com/2015/10/the-final-et-message-to-earth.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+blogspot/YTqom+(Humans+Are+Free-Blog)&m=0

Viking

Mike Gorman
27th October 2015, 10:16
Interesting

Hazelfern
27th October 2015, 11:46
You lost me with -

“There is no automatic equating of wealth with corruption, as you seem to accept.'

On this planet they go hand in hand.

Bill Ryan
27th October 2015, 12:05
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I'd be 99.99% pretty sure this is fiction, written by Rappoport as an inspiring and thought-provoking message. (The style of the whole 'short story' is fictional, as one can see.) Rappoport has often written short fictional articles to make important points to his readers.

araucaria
27th October 2015, 12:50
You lost me with -

“There is no automatic equating of wealth with corruption, as you seem to accept.'

On this planet they go hand in hand.
Well, you might like to think about that some more.

Inmortal719
27th October 2015, 14:47
for me, it lost its credibility when the bible was quoted, I don't think ET's would be interested in it in any way...

Silo
27th October 2015, 15:27
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I'd be 99.99% pretty sure this is fiction, written by Rappoport as an inspiring and thought-provoking message. (The style of the whole 'short story' is fictional, as one can see.) Rappoport has often written short fictional articles to make important points to his readers.

Who cares either way? If the message is important, it's not necessarily true that the messenger is. I feel the same way about Shane. I don't care if he's making it up or telling the truth. It's my discernment that is important.

I think if a person needs this message to be "in fact" from some ET, then they definitely need to consider the message more closely.

Advice to quit smoking, even from a smoker....is still good advice.

Respectfully,

Peace of Mind
27th October 2015, 15:30
This is probably one of the very few truth's exposed around here in a very very long long time. Thanks, truly!!

It's filled with so much common sense and undeniable wisdom that I'm not even sure the average human will be able to grasp this...as they are so used to being blind followers and confined thinkers. Not many people are "willing"... only willing to find and hold on to the negatives and oppression's in their lives. They hardly ever seek remedies, they just dwell on the negatives and move on to the next one...that's a conditioned mindset, trained to accept and embrace futility. But Why???

Just imagine if everyone took responsibility for themselves while supporting everyone Else's individuality. Imagine a world where people didn't rely on others to do for them what they can do for themselves. Imagine a world where people didn't adhere to illusions such as fear and excuses. Imagine a world where people truly do their best instead of wishing and waiting for others to give them permission and/or an opportunity to do their best. Imagine a world where it's "supposedly" most intellectual specie practice this more then the many other inhabitants on the same planet has been doing since the beginning.

The world suffers because it's only hero's are too scared to be who they are....why would any other entity risk anything to save a specie that is too scared to make an effort to save it self?? why? Talk is cheep it does nothing...as we can easily see.
I imagine any alien being (if real) would be wanting to stay as far away from us as possible. The only "being" that would want to interfere with such discord are those that aim to manipulate even further. With all the alien talk going around...what has it done to our thinking/our actions/our outlook on life? Through all the years, decades upon decades and all we ever exposed was hoax's and testimonies. why? hmmm.... I guess denial and distractions can be lethal contributors in hindering one's true destiny.


Peace

Bill Ryan
27th October 2015, 15:47
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I'd be 99.99% pretty sure this is fiction, written by Rappoport as an inspiring and thought-provoking message. (The style of the whole 'short story' is fictional, as one can see.) Rappoport has often written short fictional articles to make important points to his readers.

Who cares either way? If the message is important, it's not necessarily true that the messenger is. I feel the same way about Shane. I don't care if he's making it up or telling the truth. It's my discernment that is important.

I think if a person needs this message to be "in fact" from some ET, then they definitely need to consider the message more closely.

Advice to quit smoking, even from a smoker....is still good advice.

I entirely agree. :sun:

Rappoport on his page links to another 'message', the famous 'Do you wish that we show up?' one. But although that other text has become widely quoted and forwarded, that was also fiction, written by Eric Julien over 10 years ago... as was Lawrence Spencer's 'Alien Interview', also well-written, inspiring, but totally fictional.

I'm all for inspiration, truly. But when poetic license becomes stretched, and disclaimers are NOT included saying "I wrote this myself as a educational allegory; it didn't really happen in the real world", then UFO/ET research, which is muddied enough already, suffers. That's my sole concern here.

Marikins
27th October 2015, 15:53
Surely this is fiction. Rappaport does this all the time and labels it as such. He is a writer who introduces ideas through fiction. People are more accepting of ideas if you don't tie them to real world politics or new age ideas - people would reject the ideas without thinking.
Better to ask if there is truth in the ideas

Rocky_Shorz
27th October 2015, 16:40
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I'd be 99.99% pretty sure this is fiction, written by Rappoport as an inspiring and thought-provoking message. (The style of the whole 'short story' is fictional, as one can see.) Rappoport has often written short fictional articles to make important points to his readers.

the obvious part to this being fiction is he has never visited, but yet is quoting from our bibles, OBE is one thing for viewing, but flipping pages is beyond even me... ;-)

Lifebringer
27th October 2015, 17:43
Thought manifestation and the power of the mind. If in fact this is true, wouldn't the movies, songs, and beliefs be manifested also, depending on strength of mind. Someone a couple days ago mentioned that the thoughts manifested by eons of planetary beings over the millions of years have created universes for their continuance after departure. Just wondering.

ALLiTiZ
27th October 2015, 17:55
This is such a tease. Using fiction as non-fiction should be frowned upon. One day when a true message is received (again) we'll just look like the boy who cried wolf...

giovonni
27th October 2015, 18:09
This is such a tease. Using fiction as non-fiction should be frowned upon. One day when a true message is received (again) we'll just look like the boy who cried wolf...

I totally agree ALLiTiZ,

All Avalon forum poster's should make note - If your going to post such an "item" - Please add a descriptive -
And be upfront and fair not only to the reading members/guest - But also original author intent.


PS - note the poster's link (http://humansarefree.com/2015/10/the-final-et-message-to-earth.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+blogspot/YTqom+%28Humans+Are+Free-Blog%29&m=0) provided is a secondary site, but does provide a link (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/alien-ets-final-message-to-earth/) reference to "The Final ET Message to Earth" by Jon Rappaport - sponsored by nomorefakenews.com which apparently Jon Rappaport is a contributing free lance writer.

Michelle Marie
27th October 2015, 18:51
The message resonates with my heart. I can imagine an autonomous, self-governing world of peace...and FREEDOM!

It doesn't bother me whether something is labeled fiction or non-fiction (Rebekah Roth-love her!- comes to mind) if it rings true to my inner light and soul. Attunement to truth brings about the ability to discern. We all have it. Whatever is useful and illuminating can be distilled from the rest of the info and put to good use. The rest can be peacefully left behind...

I'm going to the place where this individual empowerment is in order...at least in Spirit.

I appreciate Jon Rappaport. Ideas are gold.

Love,
MM

Marikins
27th October 2015, 19:00
This is such a tease. Using fiction as non-fiction should be frowned upon. One day when a true message is received (again) we'll just look like the boy who cried wolf...

I totally agree ALLiTiZ;,

All Avalon forum poster's should make note - If your going to post such an "item" - Please add a descriptive -
And be upfront and fair not only to the reading members/guest - But also original author intent.

I think it is imperative to be able to play with all ideas without Nanny saying "Careful, children, you may cut yourself on the sharp ones." This is an excellent article with actual ideas that empower the discerning reader. Very little of anything we post or read here can be proven. It is the ideas that resonate which are important.

Eric J (Viking)
27th October 2015, 19:11
Thought manifestation and the power of the mind. If in fact this is true, wouldn't the movies, songs, and beliefs be manifested also, depending on strength of mind. Someone a couple days ago mentioned that the thoughts manifested by eons of planetary beings over the millions of years have created universes for their continuance after departure. Just wondering.

As you can see I have highlighted in the post the tremendous power of our minds...this is the only way the ptw control us...through our minds...it is what controls our every day reality. I could go into depth but it's easier to read my thread below. WE ARE THE CHANGE ... but the reality we have created comes to mindset first. Problem is the ptw have engineered reality today. Change is slow, but we'll get there in the end.

Viking

giovonni
27th October 2015, 19:21
This is such a tease. Using fiction as non-fiction should be frowned upon. One day when a true message is received (again) we'll just look like the boy who cried wolf...

I totally agree ALLiTiZ;,

All Avalon forum poster's should make note - If your going to post such an "item" - Please add a descriptive -
And be upfront and fair not only to the reading members/guest - But also original author intent.

I think it is imperative to be able to play with all ideas without Nanny saying "Careful, children, you may cut yourself on the sharp ones." This is an excellent article with actual ideas that empower the discerning reader. Very little of anything we post or read here can be proven. It is the ideas that resonate which are important.

That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

Leon Kovalyov
27th October 2015, 19:47
There are many truths left behind in all myths...for those that are ready to see/integrate them to learn/evolve/teach. Take what moves you and leave the rest alone for the moment. Too much light and some get burned...might the shadows offer some the time/space to come into the light....

Silo
27th October 2015, 19:56
That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

"Surety you crave! Sauron gives none. If you sue for his clemency then you must do his bidding."
—Mouth of Sauron

This line has stuck in my head for a long time now. The power of it, the raw force. I think it illustrates an important point.

Folks will always say, "But...we were lied to!!".

Emerson says it this way, “Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages..."

Roland from The Gunslinger says it this way, "You have forgotten the face of your father."

etc.

We have to be able to claim our own power, or we are victims.


Peacefully,

giovonni
27th October 2015, 19:58
That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

"Surety you crave! Sauron gives none. If you sue for his clemency then you must do his bidding."
—Mouth of Sauron

This line has stuck in my head for a long time now. The power of it, the raw force. I think it illustrates an important point.

Folks will always say, "But...we were lied to!!".

Emerson says it this way, “Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages..."

Roland from The Gunslinger says it this way, "You have forgotten the face of your father."

etc.

We have to be able to claim our own power, or we are victims.


Peacefully,

What does this have to do with adding a posted descriptive and clear original link ?

Silo
27th October 2015, 20:14
That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

"Surety you crave! Sauron gives none. If you sue for his clemency then you must do his bidding."
—Mouth of Sauron

This line has stuck in my head for a long time now. The power of it, the raw force. I think it illustrates an important point.

Folks will always say, "But...we were lied to!!".

Emerson says it this way, “Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages..."

Roland from The Gunslinger says it this way, "You have forgotten the face of your father."

etc.

We have to be able to claim our own power, or we are victims.


Peacefully,

What does this have to do with adding a posted descriptive and clear original link ?

Maybe nothing, except that I feel like folks like to spend a lot of time on the minutia and can't see the forest for the trees. I understand that making things clear, especially on the internet is important as Bill says, the waters are already muddied.

However, we can't go around crying foul at every turn.

At some point, (I'm sure you'll agree) and this is what I got from Rappoport's piece--we have to have our own discernment and stand on our own two feet.

I can understand your question, I was replying to an implicit thread in your comment and not the comment itself. My apologies.

respectfully,

ulli
27th October 2015, 20:20
In the end it all boils down to authenticity and style.
Rappoport has both. A good use of the element of surprise.

Shane has it, but in limited measure, but then he is a lot younger than Rappoprt, and still on the way to mastery.

I have a real problem, however, when it comes to imitation; especially when it is done with the purpose of self aggrandizement.
Still, each one of us will draw the line differently.
True talent usually has an electrifying effect.

giovonni
27th October 2015, 20:20
That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

"Surety you crave! Sauron gives none. If you sue for his clemency then you must do his bidding."
—Mouth of Sauron

This line has stuck in my head for a long time now. The power of it, the raw force. I think it illustrates an important point.

Folks will always say, "But...we were lied to!!".

Emerson says it this way, “Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages..."

Roland from The Gunslinger says it this way, "You have forgotten the face of your father."

etc.

We have to be able to claim our own power, or we are victims.


Peacefully,

What does this have to do with adding a posted descriptive and clear original link ?

Maybe nothing, except that I feel like folks like to spend a lot of time on the minutia and can't see the forest for the trees. I understand that making things clear, especially on the internet is important as Bill says, the waters are already muddied.

However, we can't go around crying foul at every turn.

At some point, (I'm sure you'll agree) and this is what I got from Rappoport's piece--we have to have our own discernment and stand on our own two feet.

I can understand your question, I was replying to an implicit thread in your comment and not the comment itself. My apologies.

respectfully,

Thank you for your explanation.

It should be noted, i rarely cry foul on this forum ... :)

Blessings Gio

PS ! i take my leave of Mr vilings thread.

WhiteLove
27th October 2015, 21:31
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I'd be 99.99% pretty sure this is fiction, written by Rappoport as an inspiring and thought-provoking message. (The style of the whole 'short story' is fictional, as one can see.) Rappoport has often written short fictional articles to make important points to his readers.

Oh yes. I am close to 100% sure this is:

No ET speaking

Marikins
27th October 2015, 21:43
This is such a tease. Using fiction as non-fiction should be frowned upon. One day when a true message is received (again) we'll just look like the boy who cried wolf...

I totally agree ALLiTiZ;,

All Avalon forum poster's should make note - If your going to post such an "item" - Please add a descriptive -
And be upfront and fair not only to the reading members/guest - But also original author intent.

I think it is imperative to be able to play with all ideas without Nanny saying "Careful, children, you may cut yourself on the sharp ones." This is an excellent article with actual ideas that empower the discerning reader. Very little of anything we post or read here can be proven. It is the ideas that resonate which are important.

That's not the point (to me), i like to know where stuff comes from and if possible its intended purpose.

I get that. I guess I lean toward letting it stand as is and trusting my impression. Your way, you do get more concrete data. I did have the advantage of knowing the author takes artistic license, so have a different reaction to not knowing. But I still hold that we are surrounded my vast amounts of fabricated news and stories, and our task, as I see it, is take on the good ideas (whatever the source) and make them our reality.

WhiteLove
27th October 2015, 21:58
take on the good ideas (whatever the source) and make them our reality.

A good idea would be to collectively as a group, create peace. A bad idea would be to sharpen the ego stroking to the point that whatever collective peace thinking that truly does exist right now, will fade away.

Callista
28th October 2015, 03:18
If we accept the premise that we are living in an illusion, it's all a Cosmic Joke - fact and fiction are two sides of the same coin. Here is something I wrote a few years ago about Truth:

THE CYCLE OF TRUTH

All Truth leads to Source.

Everyone has their own Truth.

Everyone’s Truth is different (we are One, having 7 billion experiences).

Everyone has the right to share their Truth.

When you share your Truth, you are not responsible for someone else’s interpretation of it.

No-one is forced to accept someone else’s Truth.

You alone are responsible for any action you take in accordance with your Truth.

Nothing is ever a mistake, because everything leads to the Truth.

All Truth leads to Source.

© C G Summerfield
Nov 2011

araucaria
28th October 2015, 07:14
You lost me with -

“There is no automatic equating of wealth with corruption, as you seem to accept.'

On this planet they go hand in hand.
Well, you might like to think about that some more.

Let me expand on this idea, because it is a major stumbling-block to clear thinking.

Some skilled jobs are just highly paid, no corruption and no scandal involved. Imagine a surgeon working lengthy hours to save and improve lives; his family has been doing the same for generations, building up substantial wealth in the process. They have a beautiful home and some fabulous art treasures in it. They put it on public display in a spirit of sharing, thereby generating more income. Beauty is a form of wealth: it makes us feel good by appealing to our higher feelings, making it a great attractor. There is nothing inherently wrong in this abstract local picture, unless and until you drag up the overarching backdrop of financial corruption corrupting everything. All these people are doing is reaping the benefits of doing good. Wealth per se does not equate with corruption. Conspiracy theory is bad for you.

The corollary also holds. Poverty is not necessarily virtue, for example when the above instance inspires envy. Poverty can be corrupt. Some people are sick and the last thing they want to lose is their illness. Poverty can easily be another kind of crutch. And this is the kind of corruption that is keeping the present system going. Rich people defend the status quo most of all by relying on the support they get from the poor feeling comfortable with their own exclusion. I am not saying poverty per se is evil: when you need little, that little becomes a lot and you are basically rich – you have everything you need. Poverty inspired by envy is different: it means having little and needing a lot, i.e. not being where you need to be. That is not evil in a moral sense; simply it is a block to getting where you need to be, i.e. a self-sustaining cause of dissatisfaction and unhappiness.

It is not for nothing that wealth rhymes with health. Wealth is literally (etymologically) wellness, and health is literally (etymologically) healing, or betterness. Wealth is a much vaster concept than mere financial well-being: the notion itself has been corrupted. This is something that a forum like Avalon is dedicated to correcting. If you prone free energy and the redistribution to all of the planet’s fabulous riches, as we do, then that is to prone wealth, albeit at no one’s expense, for there is enough to go round. Hence the scarcity paradigm is not a problem for the haves; it is a problem for the have-nots. They are the ones who need to change their thinking, notably by cultivating the opposite of envy – namely by feeling rich (happy) with what they have, i.e. having what they need. This will gradually include needing more, and having that as well. But that will not come from “soaking the rich”, which would be inspired by motives of envy. It will come from a new, richer form of wealth than the current corrupt (unhealthy) materialism, and as that in turn becomes prevalent, the current materialism will fall away, making way for this improved concept of wealth as health.