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Strat
29th November 2010, 23:12
I've read what we could call orthodox books on history and wars of the past and present. The only unorthodox book I've read is The Hiram Key, and it was a phenomenal read. Tonight I'm going to the library to get a new book and I'm looking to go more in this direction of study. There is one book in particular I'm looking for, "Oil, Power, and Empire." I asked for it last time but they didn't have it available at the time.

So what I'm asking is what books have yall read in this genre that you would recommend? I am personally more interested in documented traceable information on the NWO/Illuminati. However the more suggestions the better. Generally speaking, I read a new book every month so all recommendations are welcome.

norman
29th November 2010, 23:22
"Hitler's Willing Executioners"
.....ordinary Germans and the Holocaust

by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen

ISBN 349 10786 6



EDIT:

THE HUMAN SITUATION

Aldous Huxley

ISBN 0-586-04915-0

Carmody
30th November 2010, 01:57
"The SS brotherhood of the Bell"..and "Babylon's Banksters"...Both by Joseph P Farrell.

Documented by the inch.


Jim Marrs:

ISBN 978-0-06-124558-9 The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America

ISBN 978-0-97-271310-8 Psi Spies

ISBN 978-0-06-093184-1 Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids



Deep levels of documentation on all of Jim's works.

Ahkenaten
30th November 2010, 02:42
J. Glen Gray - The Warriors (concerning the psychology of the warrior and how that drives warfaring)
James Risen - State of War
Chalmers Johnson - Nemesis (anything by this author is excellent)

HURRITT ENYETO
30th November 2010, 14:42
The most important book you could read in my opinion is "Three Magic Words" It will truly change your life.
I think anything i could tell you about it would not do it justice.

Pam
30th November 2010, 15:09
For a complete different look at US history, I would suggest "A People's History fo the United States" by Howard Zinn.

Amazon.com review states:

"Consistently lauded for its lively, readable prose, this revised and updated edition of A People's History of the United States turns traditional textbook history on its head. Howard Zinn infuses the often-submerged voices of blacks, women, American Indians, war resisters, and poor laborers of all nationalities into this thorough narrative that spans American history from Christopher Columbus's arrival to an afterword on the Clinton presidency.

Addressing his trademark reversals of perspective, Zinn--a teacher, historian, and social activist for more than 20 years--explains, "My point is not that we must, in telling history, accuse, judge, condemn Columbus in absentia. It is too late for that; it would be a useless scholarly exercise in morality. But the easy acceptance of atrocities as a deplorable but necessary price to pay for progress (Hiroshima and Vietnam, to save Western civilization; Kronstadt and Hungary, to save socialism; nuclear proliferation, to save us all)--that is still with us. One reason these atrocities are still with us is that we have learned to bury them in a mass of other facts, as radioactive wastes are buried in containers in the earth." ...

Fredkc
30th November 2010, 16:00
Ok, I am going to use this thread to, once again, introduce people to "Fred's Pay It Forward" section, on my web site. All total there are more than 1,200 pieces of classical literature there for you to read.

Fear not. My site and all it's content is non-commercial. I don't make a dime with it, I don't owe a dime over it, either. It is all public domain, and mostly my work. This came out of a package I put together to be given to my grand children. Stuff I thought important for them to have, all in one place.

All of this stuff is JRank searchable (http://fredsitelive.com/reference/JRankSearch.html), too.

Book Dept. (http://fredsitelive.com/books/index.php)
U.S. Constitution
Dec. Of Independence
Age Of Reason - Tom Payne
Common Sense - Tom Payne
Bible Dictionary - Vines & Easton's
Art Of War - SunTzu
The Prince - Machiavelli
The Golden Bough - Sir James Frazer

Historical/political items can be found here (http://fredsitelive.com/politics/).
For instance, why read what people thought Jefferson meant when you can read his speeches and letters (http://fredsitelive.com/politics/jefferson/index.php)?

Why listen to others tell you what the Constitution intended, when you can read it yourself (http://fredsitelive.com/politics/usconst.htm), and even listen to them haggle it out? They did keep Minutes of the Constitutional Convention (http://fredsitelive.com/politics/fed_papers/00_start_here.php#cal), you know.

The Federalist, and Anti-Federalist (http://fredsitelive.com/politics/fed_papers/00_start_here.php) papers, provide commentary on what the new 'contract' held in store for people.

A freshly minted doctor drafted into the Continental Army, kept a diary (http://fredsitelive.com/books/nonfiction/section1/thachersjournal.htm) you can read.

Excerpts from some 900 classical works (http://fredsitelive.com/books/worldlit/).

When in doubt, why not go to the source? :)

Enjoy,
Fred

shiva777
30th November 2010, 16:20
the HOLY bible ..it's so full of HOLES that you can smuggle large amounts of contraband in it when heading overseas

DawgBone
30th November 2010, 16:55
Fred, this is going to keep me reading for a while ...

Thanks!

Carmody
30th November 2010, 17:31
Ok, I am going to use this thread to, once again, introduce people to "Fred's Pay It Forward" section, on my web site. All total there are more than 1,200 pieces of classical literature there for you to read.

Enjoy,
Fred

No way, Fred, My book list is cooler as it is far more sexily paranoid and exciting. Not much in the way of pictures in them, though.

Strat
30th November 2010, 18:31
Yall are great, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Pam, I've heard of that book before! I can't think of where though, probably a documentary.

Carmody, I am stealing the phrase "sexily paranoid." Sorry.

When I went to the library last night I ended up getting The Secret History of the American Empire. It was written by an ex-CIA economic hit man. I planned on reading a chapter or two but I couldn't put the book down. Then I had trouble sleeping because I was upset at the level of exploitation this man is describing from first hand experience.

Zook
30th November 2010, 18:38
The Creature From Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin

And if you'd rather watch than read:


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450#

:typing:

Kulapops
30th November 2010, 18:43
Clear your clutter by Karen Kensington is absolute dynamite !!

as is Finding your Own North Star...

Also recommend punk science... Wow !

Mort by Terry Pratchett is also pretty essential reading, as is Wyrd Sisters !

Oh and Hitchikers... !

neptuneforce
1st December 2010, 07:29
Math For Mystics by Reena Shesso, You Are a Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience by Bob Frissel, & the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield

Jonathon
1st December 2010, 08:07
I'll second the Jim Marrs works. I'm reading The Rise of the Fourth Reich currently. May also consider Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse (on my reading list - haven't gotten to it yet).

BrianEn
1st December 2010, 08:18
Cool. I'm going to check the library for some of these titles. I'd like to read the Art of War.

Dragonfly
1st December 2010, 08:43
Huxley: Brave New World and The Gods of Eden written by William Bramley. The latter is an excellent basis and probably one of the best summary ever written on the conspiracy subject. I appreciate also the quite reliable citations and the respective bibliography.

Kind regards, Dragonfly

Bill Ryan
1st December 2010, 13:35
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The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot.

http://amazon.com/Holographic-Universe-Michael-Talbot/dp/0060922583

Wood
1st December 2010, 13:45
"Life style without food" http://niejedzenie.info/english/text/lswf.pdf (free pdf).
I think it is useful even if it just makes the reader start questioning basic assumptions. That is be a good way to expand consciousness IMHO.

EDIT: Sorry, I just read the thread name and I didn't check the OP and the subforum. Please delete this post :)

Carmody
1st December 2010, 17:58
Yall are great, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Pam, I've heard of that book before! I can't think of where though, probably a documentary.

Carmody, I am stealing the phrase "sexily paranoid." Sorry.

When I went to the library last night I ended up getting The Secret History of the American Empire. It was written by an ex-CIA economic hit man. I planned on reading a chapter or two but I couldn't put the book down. Then I had trouble sleeping because I was upset at the level of exploitation this man is describing from first hand experience.

Our Individual Internal Illiadic Heroes must always find some complementary and resonant windmills to vibrate in sympathy with and tilt at. In essence, whatever bit of paranoia that dances in a sexy enough fashion to unlock and excite our personal adrenaline release, is the one we end up promoting. Such is life, or a lack of it!

Follow the Gourd! No! Follow the Shoe!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf76lynPdZc

JoshERTW
1st December 2010, 18:12
Not sure if anyone mentioned this one:

The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein

Great bit of history on the development of Problem Reaction Solution (she calls it "disaster capitalism"). The first or second chapter is about MKUltra and is used as a lead in to the rest of world economic history. I'm enjoying it immensely, despite the fairly unpleasant information which is presented in the first half. Hoping it gets to more "solutions" but it certainly opens your eyes, and uses documented historical evidence to make the case.

Lefty Dave
1st December 2010, 18:18
Sinister Forces A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft
Peter Levenda has researched the material for this book over the course of 25 years, visiting more than 40 countries and gaining access to temples, prisons, ...
sinisterforces.info/ this is a three book trilogy and is well documented,....

Zillah
1st December 2010, 18:21
WONDERFUL thread - I could list hundreds, but I'll stick to my top 3:

1) The Right Use of Will by Ceanne DeRohan (series) (http://www.rightuseofwill.com/books.htm)

2) Rays of Truth, Crystals of Light by Dr. Fred Bell (http://www.pyradyne.com/rays.htm)

3) The Divine Matrix by Gregg Braden (http://www.greggbraden.com/)

ok a few more :) ....

4) Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Marciniak (http://pleiadians.com/dawn.html)

5) The Keys of Enoch by JJ Hurtak (http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/books.html)

6) The Earth Chronicles (series) by Zecharia Sitchen (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/sitchinbooks.htm)

Dale
1st December 2010, 20:42
Handbook to Higher Consciousness (http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Higher-Consciousness-Ken-Keyes/dp/0960068821/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1291235953&sr=8-3), by Ken Keyes

The Undiscovered Self (http://www.amazon.com/Undiscovered-Self-Carl-G-Jung/dp/0451217322/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291236026&sr=1-1), by Carl Jung

The Secret Teachings of All Ages (http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Teachings-all-Ages/dp/1604590955/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291236140&sr=1-1), by Manly P. Hall

Banshee
1st December 2010, 21:43
"Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco

Ross
1st December 2010, 21:53
Fingerprints Of The Gods: Graham Handcock

Devine Matrix: Gregg Braden

The Four Agreements: Don Miguel Ruiz

"Who moved my cheese": (cant remember author) EDIT: this ones for Banshee...sorry could'nt resist:doh:

Banshee
2nd December 2010, 00:08
Devine Matrix: Gregg Braden

The Four Agreements: Don Miguel Ruiz

"Who moved my cheese": (cant remember author) EDIT: this ones for Banshee...sorry could'nt resist:doh:[/QUOTE]
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"Good night Mrs. Calabash... wherever you are"

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and the irony in having screwed up that post. ha!

Carmody
2nd December 2010, 04:11
The most important book you could read in my opinion is "Three Magic Words" It will truly change your life.
I think anything i could tell you about it would not do it justice.

"No New Taxes"? :drum:

iceni tribe
7th December 2010, 14:58
george greens handbook series , thought they were a load of tosh and tried to de bunk them. spent six months trying ,it was funny coincidences at first (or that's what i put it down to)but as i continued it became uncomfortably obvious that what was happening was very real.
so halfway through my life i found i had to discard most of what i thought i knew and start again.

thanks george.......i think ?

kouby
14th December 2010, 08:32
Most Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett books are absolutely essential to perfect your cynical approach to day to day life and better understand basic human stupidity:
-Hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy series
-Dirk Gently's holistic detective agency
-The Discworld series

str8thinker
14th December 2010, 11:57
On p2 of this thread, Dragonfly recommended "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley.

"William Bramley" seems to be a pseudonym for Tore Dahlin, an excommunicated scientologist. I agree with others that he gratuitously injects his own (?) homespun beliefs about spirituality and God, which mars an otherwise interesting book. Read the book then read these links about him:

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/eden/occult.html
http://lightofthegreatfire.com/tore%20dahlin.htm
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=11348&page=2
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=132353
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_godseden04.htm

Tore Dahlin appeared on one of the Ancient Aliens episodes, can't recall which one or which name he used for himself.

WyoSeeker
14th December 2010, 19:50
The Law of One series
Seth series
Conversations with God series

Confessions of an Economic Hitman
The Lies My Teacher Told Me

starry
14th December 2010, 20:44
You are the eyes of the world. Longchenpa.

Journey into oneness .Michael J roads

Hiram
14th December 2010, 22:59
The Prophet
Rule By Secrecy
Dune
Alien Agenda
The Count of Monte Cristo
Watership Down
Endurance
Autobiography of a Yogi
yes...Conversations with God series

.....wow there are so many.

MariaDine
14th December 2010, 23:12
A DWELLER ON TWO PLANETS, by Phyllos The Tibetian - 1886

http://books.google.com/books?id=hi88YXsab24C&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+dwellers+of+two+planets&hl=pt-pt&ei=ZPkHTZ3rFsvEswaCtcmCDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

StephenW11UK
14th December 2010, 23:32
Strat, not necessarily for you, but certainly for anyone who might still be coming to terms with what might actually be possible in our world and what is 'impossible', dysinformation, or mere hoax. And certainly revealing for anyone you know who is just breaking free from the world-view they were brought up with. This book, recommended by Dr Stanislav Grof (surely one of the greatest of modern researchers), can open almost anyone's mind:

Michael Talbot, The Holographic Universe, ISBN 0 586 09171 8

Carmody
15th December 2010, 03:54
'The field', By Lynn McTaggart

http://www.amazon.com/Field-Quest-Secret-Force-Universe/dp/0060931175

And these two, IMO, are ultra critical when it comes to getting your personally derived efffluent into an advanced state of order.

Journey of Souls, and Destiny of Souls, Both by Michael Newton. What is REALLY bizarre, is that if you go to find 'journey of souls' on goggle and then search books of that title..and then click on the Google book link, a book on Teenage Witchcraft comes up in it's stead! I had to keep trying different ways to get to the correct preview pdf.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=P61usXlFKKIC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
The preview is the first 56 pages, which is a considerable amount of data.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=6CvbhYIljfAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=journey+of+souls&hl=en&ei=jzoITaSKC4KmnQfT0PCHDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=2&ved=0CDQQ6wEwAQ#v=onepage&q=journey%20of%20souls&f=false
This preview is the first 77 page of the book.

A wiki on the good doc and his 35 years of regression work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Newton_%28hypnotist%29

MariaDine
20th June 2011, 12:12
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MariaDine
20th June 2011, 12:35
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tcjim1
20th June 2011, 13:06
I am presently reading the Thiaoouba Prophecy (Abduction to the 9th planet). ALL I can say about the book is "WOW". It sure opened my eyes and answered a lot of questions about the mystery's of our planet Earth and the human race. I started reading it and couldn't put it down.

MariaDine
20th June 2011, 13:29
http://www.meanwell.com.au/thiaoouba/page5.html

andrewgreen
20th June 2011, 13:30
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-World-Jonathan-Black/dp/1847243401/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308576006&sr=1-1

The secret History of the world was a book that surprised me. My sister had bought it left it at mine and out of boredom I decided to read it despite the cheesy title. It retells history from the perspective of the secret societies and mystery schools who have directed us into our present spiritually dense situation for the reason of evolution. Its a must read, it connected so many dots and gave me an insight into the esoteric .

toothpick
20th June 2011, 14:16
Beautiful Joe, by, Magaret Marshall Saunders.

toothpick

cloud9
20th June 2011, 15:02
After reading so many books through my life I can say that the wisdom and simplicity of Conversations with God is unparalleded, those books truly have a place in my heart. You realize that it doesn't matter what the elite, the federal reserve, military industry complex or whatever have done or are doing, it's all part of a game we chose to participate in.
I have read these books many times but perhaps the one that is even closer to my heart is Home with God by the same author, you need to read Conversations first though to "get" this one, if you ever wanted to get an idea of how life works, this book will give you many things to think about, it's just amazing!