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samvado
8th April 2010, 19:37
Did you ever read the book on chinese indigos?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwVy_2eOfsE&feature=player_embedded#

Agape
8th April 2010, 20:23
I've read it. There are more people with rather special gifts born in the East than among the 'western' caucasian populace. Partially, I think the gene pool here is depleted as it evolves to higher stage perhaps but people are weaker .
But even there, the abilities are said to be on decline, in long term. Not any 'blue baby boom' can repair our unhealthy life styles, stresses of modern civilisation and dependance on second hand technologies ..

mike1414
12th April 2010, 16:18
iv read the book on China's Super Psychics by Paul Dong and Thomas E Raffill...really interesting accounts in there. there is no doubt in my mind that this is all achievable and takes a lot of intent and concentration. our conditioned western education and all round way of living and being has hindered our evolution with regards to these kinds of achievements and abilities.
however i do know where to go for a nice burger and chips :)

http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/oct1/pdong.htm

love this topic

peace always
mike

Peace of Mind
12th April 2010, 16:43
The propaganda machine has done a serious number on Western society. Once we realize whole heartily that this is an illusion, than we can craft our existence…instead of having the elite’s ideas manipulate us by placing unwanted images into our thoughts. If we believe everything they tell us…we will become weaker…the system is designed for us to praise them and trust in the unknown…not our selves.

Peace

lisa
12th April 2010, 19:21
Been meaning to dig up this video, seems like a similar trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0nDlCqZbBU

samvado
12th April 2010, 19:38
Been meaning to dig up this video, seems like a similar trick:

OMG, you are right.
amazing !!!

Jnana
12th April 2010, 21:42
This looks like a magic trick to me. The coin under the table begins in his hand. The middle coin looks a bit smaller. I'd guess the coin on the right is open on the bottom side and the two nest together using magnets to attract them when bumped. If this is a magic trick, I suspect the rest is as well.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=619
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=620
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=621
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=622

Celine
12th April 2010, 21:46
Tricks are part of many peoples tools these days. People who promise the world... People who claim to heal...Most are snake oil salesmen

samvado
12th April 2010, 23:35
This looks like a magic trick to me. The coin under the table begins in his hand. The middle coin looks a bit smaller. I'd guess the coin on the right is open on the bottom side and the two nest together using magnets to attract them when bumped. If this is a magic trick, I suspect the rest is as well.

thanx for taking the effort - but I am not convinced. why go to all that effort with the coins when briefly thereafter he puts his entire ARM thru the glass? no magnet there ...

But for me an indication of trickery (but a weak one) is that this japanese guy can do the same apparently. either both are psychic or they both know the trick.

jeannacav
13th April 2010, 00:36
I have seen a video of an activity witnessed by a person I know which shows a "special" chinese woman who moves a bean across a blotter paper.
It takes a long time and she is totally concentrating.

That chinese woman has taught herself a technique whereby she paints from her mind.
If I remember it correctly, she thinks a feeling, and the colors appear on photographic paper .
Again she does this with great concentration.

It is very different from this enjoyable show, and takes a lot of quiet concentration.
This man may be doing these feats, but there is the flare of the sleight of hand here.

I believe this is a show...and a very good one.

thank you,

jeanna

SteveX
13th April 2010, 00:47
Did you ever read the book on chinese indigos?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwVy_2eOfsE&feature=player_embedded#

OK...got it. Don't play the film just yet. The really wow trick is putting his hand through the glass. The coins are just the usual stuff illusionist do.

Stop the film at about 3 or 4 seconds and look at the table. It's circular in sections. Look at the seem between the sections on the LEFT of the magician. The section with the tea cup is higher than the front section in front of the magician. Here's the trick. The front section is much longer around to the LEFT under the teacup. The teacup covers a whole in the bottom section, which is on a mechanical slider.

Go to 4minutes and 44 seconds. Do not take your eyes of the magicians LEFT hand. NOW at 5 minutes and 21 seconds watch the magicians LEFT hand and forearm cover the glass as it moves left to right, into place. Note the complicit camera angle and how he keeps the hole covered up. At 6.16 watch as the complicit camera angle + his hand a forearm cover the hole as the glass retracts. At 6.19 it even looks as though his arm bounces on the retracting glass.

Job done.

Jnana
13th April 2010, 05:32
Stevex, somebody in the comments section for this version of the video agrees with your rotating table theory. Makes sense to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5rJl2NAr-0&feature=related

Arm through a wood table (he admits it's a magic trick):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqk9juK2N6M&feature=related

Harder to explain hand through glass:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GINctAw7syk&feature=related

Basic coin through table "how to":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGvFjuatJpE&feature=related

Magic tricks are fun! The best leave you baffled.

Nagual
13th April 2010, 07:40
Stevex, you nailed it! one section of the circular table has a hole and it's seamlessly moved ...

Here is the hand through aquarium trick revealed :p



http://www.filecabi.net/video/2084446350191.html

mike1414
13th April 2010, 08:33
it is a difficult topic to address bcos it pushes the obvious boundaries a lot of people have with re to what we percieve to be real. calling these events tricks or magic tricks automatically implies (whether deliberate or not) that the ability or event is being done and the witness is being decieved into believe what the ''performer'' wants them to. (imo)
there is a big media slurring on this topic of people with abilities above what is considered the ''norm'' and however good, engaging and entertaining illusionists and performers are...the fact that there are people out there without a stage and a regular tv slot must not be overlooked or shunned. i mean heavens forbid we actually start to believe we are more than flesh and bone! :)
this is a area of study in china, russia and japan....and imho the usa, uk, and most of europe too if one looks hard enough....and why not u know.... the ability to hone children and young adults to see with their hands or feet or the ability to move objects and themselves thru space/time in unconventional ways is tantalisingly attractive.
the science points to it as being achievable...and it is being done...we are only limited by our own perceptions of what is attainable


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWeEXkTk0DY&feature=related

peace always
mike

samvado
13th April 2010, 09:29
Stevex, you nailed it! one section of the circular table has a hole and it's seamlessly moved ...
here is the hand through aquarium trick revealed :p


Thank you all, again, as I said if it is NOT a camera trick, which in a way it was. If the aquarium and the people had been real this trick wouldnt have worked.
of course with camera and people in on the trick you can do anything, in fact it would probably have been much cheaper and easier to just do it the good old hollywood way by manipulating the film digitally, adding the card in where it seemingly is etc.

Thats really is bull**** for me and not tricks, real tricks are invisible to the surrounding spectators. this is REALLY cheap.

Teakai
17th April 2010, 05:10
Love it!!

I think as with crop circles, some are fake and some are genuine.

There are natural laws we haven't cottoned onto yet.

If everything is frequency, perhaps it's a simple (ha ha ) matter of frequency ajustment.

Humble Janitor
17th April 2010, 06:27
The propaganda machine has done a serious number on Western society. Once we realize whole heartily that this is an illusion, than we can craft our existence…instead of having the elite’s ideas manipulate us by placing unwanted images into our thoughts. If we believe everything they tell us…we will become weaker…the system is designed for us to praise them and trust in the unknown…not our selves.

Peace

You can start by doing what I did and saying "To hell with this ****!" and from there on, carve the path YOU think YOU should follow, not what they want you to follow.