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WhiteLove
19th January 2016, 22:47
Although the markets are still in a financial collapse mitigation condition, some early signs are now starting to emerge that indicate that this could turn out worse than the collapse in 2008. Today was a confirmation on my previous indications that we really are in an early crisis stage right now, that this is a pretty rare development so far. What this situation really means I'm working heavily to understand right now. For instance, I've found a pretty odd behavior, which is relating to the Walmart stock. Last year that stock was pretty weak when other stocks were pretty strong. Now all of a sudden the Walmart stock is in this more rough climate starting to show signs of strength. Only so far this year it has had a +10% performance relative to the Dow Jones index, when most other big name stocks have performed equal to the Dow Jones index or worse. This is strange. In a weighted market like this a stock such as Walmart, who recently announced they are closing stores, should be fairly weak. Why is so much money all of a sudden flowing into the Walmart stock, what is suddenly so good about this stock?! I can't help but wonder if the previous sellouts were done to hide some upcoming activities relating to the combination of Walmart and a coming financial collapse. The strength in the Walmart stock in the middle of a financial storm, is telling us something. Can all of this be linked to Jade Helm somehow...? Is something big cooking?

ozmirage
19th January 2016, 22:58
Financially speaking, the USA is already going down the drain.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Q: How much U.S. currency is in circulation?
A: There was approximately $1.39 trillion in circulation as of September 30, 2015, of which $1.34 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget
● 2014 Federal Deficit : $1,086 billion
● 2014 Debt Service : $229 billion
(approx. 18% of all circulating money is paid to the creditor, yearly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_United_States_federal_budget
● 2014 Federal Budget $3.5 trillion
. . . . versus
● $1.34 trillion in circulation.

>> The amount of "legal tender" in circulation is $1.34 trillion.
>> The Federal government spends $3.5 trillion.
>> It borrowed $1.09 trillion and paid $0.23 trillion in interest.

SOMETHING.DOES.NOT.COMPUTE.

Flash
19th January 2016, 22:59
Although the markets are still in a financial collapse mitigation period, some early signs are now starting to emerge that indicate that this could turn out worse than the collapse in 2008. Today was a confirmation on my previous indications that we really are in an early crisis stage right now, that this is a pretty rare development so far. What this situation really means I'm working heavily to understand right now. For instance, I've found a pretty odd behavior, which is relating to the Walmart stock. Last year that stock was pretty weak when other stocks were pretty strong. Now all of a sudden the Walmart stock is in this more rough climate starting to show signs of strength. Only so far this year it has had a +10% performance relative to the Dow Jones index, when most other big name stocks have performed equal to the Dow Jones index or worse. This is strange. In a weighted market like this a stock such as Walmart, who recently announced they are closing stores, should be fairly weak. Why is so much money all of a sudden flowing into the Walmart stock, what is suddenly so good about this stock?! I can't help but wonder if the previous sellouts were done to hide some upcoming activities relating to the combination of Walmart and a coming financial collapse. The strength in the Walmart stock in the middle of a financial storm, is telling us something.

interesting. Could it be that the land and buildings are worth gold and could be use by Fema for Fema camps for example? In view of a crisis.

INteresting too because transportation of goods has slowed down internationally, so how would Walmart supply its stores?

WhiteLove
19th January 2016, 23:22
Although the markets are still in a financial collapse mitigation period, some early signs are now starting to emerge that indicate that this could turn out worse than the collapse in 2008. Today was a confirmation on my previous indications that we really are in an early crisis stage right now, that this is a pretty rare development so far. What this situation really means I'm working heavily to understand right now. For instance, I've found a pretty odd behavior, which is relating to the Walmart stock. Last year that stock was pretty weak when other stocks were pretty strong. Now all of a sudden the Walmart stock is in this more rough climate starting to show signs of strength. Only so far this year it has had a +10% performance relative to the Dow Jones index, when most other big name stocks have performed equal to the Dow Jones index or worse. This is strange. In a weighted market like this a stock such as Walmart, who recently announced they are closing stores, should be fairly weak. Why is so much money all of a sudden flowing into the Walmart stock, what is suddenly so good about this stock?! I can't help but wonder if the previous sellouts were done to hide some upcoming activities relating to the combination of Walmart and a coming financial collapse. The strength in the Walmart stock in the middle of a financial storm, is telling us something.

interesting. Could it be that the land and buildings are worth gold and could be use by Fema for Fema camps for example? In view of a crisis.

INteresting too because transportation of goods has slowed down internationally, so how would Walmart supply its stores?

Very interesting points you make. +15% stronger performance than Nasdaq index, +13% stronger performance than Dow Jones index, +12% stronger performance than S&P 500 and +15% stronger performance than a financially strong tech company like Apple, during the last month. Recently announced 269 stores to be closed (but only small ones), downgraded by Morgan Stanley. Something is cooking.

Baby Steps
19th January 2016, 23:23
It's the kind of defensive stock Warren Buffet likes currently

WhiteLove
19th January 2016, 23:27
It's the kind of defensive stock Warren Buffet likes currently

Yeah, I've thought so too... I think a few days will be pretty green coming up, Netflix reported a good Q4 result, so I think the markets will breath a few days now driven by tech and then boom - the declines will resume. (will be interesting to see what happens to the Walmart stock then, this stock seems to be the collapse indicator)

gnostic9
20th January 2016, 00:27
It's the kind of defensive stock Warren Buffet likes currently

Yeah, I've thought so too... I think a few days will be pretty green coming up, Netflix reported a good Q4 result, so I think the markets will breath a few days now driven by tech and then boom - the declines will resume. (will be interesting to see what happens to the Walmart stock then, this stock seems to be the collapse indicator)

all this money thing. means nothing to me, will the devastation that it brings change anyones heart as to the consequnses of living, i don't know. I can omly hope that we as the remnants of a so called civilised society begin to have eyes!

6pounder
20th January 2016, 01:50
Let's put this scenario up:
Financial collapse;
People riot the streets;
Government declares martial law;
The only food supplier is? You guessed it right!
Walmart.

mojo
20th January 2016, 04:31
I think your scenario is mostly right except the Wallmart part. My guess is that their shelves would be empty in a few days. Large cities and population centers would be hardest hit. But let's for the sake of the scenario you put forth ask one other important consideration. Would you go to the FEMA camp if you were faced with a choice of bugging out or hopping on the bus to internment? My guess is that hundreds of thousands will be picked up?

WhiteLove
20th January 2016, 20:40
Yup, the markets are currently moving exactly the way they shouldn't - read it as up is down and down is down. There is a build up taking place that is starting to look more and more nasty every day now. Baidu (BIDU) up +4% tomorrow, then boom.

ozmirage
21st January 2016, 04:18
UPDATED DILEMMA DATA

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Jan 2016 at 03:35:36 AM GMT is:
$18,943,579,060,629.66
● The estimated population of the United States is 322,211,477
● per capita share of this debt is $58,792.38.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
Q: How much U.S. currency is in circulation?
A: There was approximately $1.39 trillion in circulation as of September 30, 2015, of which $1.34 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes.
● per capita share of “dollar bills” is $4,158.76

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget
● 2014 Federal Deficit : $1,086 billion
● 2014 Debt Service : $229 billion
(approx. 18% of all circulating money is paid to the creditor, yearly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_States_federal_budget
● 2015 Federal Budget $3.58 trillion (expenditures)
● 2015 Federal Deficit $ 438.9 billion (borrowed)
● . . . versus . . .
● $1.34 trillion in circulation.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BUDGET-2015-BUD/pdf/BUDGET-2015-BUD.pdf
● 2015 Federal Deficit $312 billion (estimate)
● 2015 Debt Service $252 billion (estimate)
● 2015 Unified budget deficit $564 billion (estimate)
● 2015 Gross Domestic Product $18,454 billion (estimate)
● . . . versus . . .
● $1.34 trillion in circulation.


>> The amount of "legal tender" in circulation is $1.34 trillion.
>> The Federal government spends $3.6 trillion.
>> It borrowed $312 billion and paid $0.25 trillion in interest.
>> The National Debt is 102% of the GDP
>> $18+ trillion owed, $1.34 trillion in circulation

SOMETHING.DOES.NOT.COMPUTE.

Clarification:
The public debt, denominated in dollars (lawful money) can only be paid with gold or silver coin. (See USCON, Art. 1, Sec. 8, and Sec. 10)

Federal reserve notes (dollar bills) are IOUs - debt - borrowed into existence, at usury, under authority of Title 12 USC Sec. 411.

To INCREASE the amount of "dollar bills" CONGRESS must authorize them by deficit spending, and the debt service requires ever more "dollar bills" to exist... which requires more borrowing in the future.

Congress is borrowing MORE than it pays in debt service (interest) which is what Madoff went to prison for doing in the private sector.
(Any politician campaigning on a promise of a "balanced budget" is a liar, an idiot, or both.)

Since 1913, and the Federal Reserve Act, no gold nor silver dollars were lent to the government.
The Federal Reserve is extending CREDIT at usury, not loans of lawful money.
(Such sums of bullion or coin do not exist. World supply (est) of bullion amounts to only $112 billion dollars.)

But the Federal government repudiated redeeming their IOUs (notes) in House Joint Resolution 192, June 1933 and again, in the Gold Reserve Act of 1934, suspending redemption of all contracts denominated in gold (lawful money).
[Silver was demonetized in the Coinage Act of 1873]

Via the Social Security Act / Federal Insurance Contributions Act of 1935, all participants are "contributors" equally liable on the public debt, hence making the "dollar bills" into legal tender. (Obligated parties on a debt cannot object to the tender of their own note in lieu of lawful money.)

The validity of the public debt cannot be challenged pursuant to clause 4 of the 14th amendment, USCON.

SUMMED UP

No matter what you evaluate with - lawful money - paper funny munny - the outstanding debt far exceeds the circulating medium of exchange.

The economy is primed to go bust, wiping out paper fortunes. Ironically, even those who "cash out" in time, can only receive notes that have no par value, and are underwritten by the "contributors" of FICA, a voluntary program which, if mandatory, would be void for fraud and unconstitutionality.

All Americans who withdraw from FICA cease to be "human resources" pledged as collateral on the notes, thus under capitalizing them, as well as eroding their fungibility as legal tender. In short, "dollar bills" are not even "soylent green" but worthless IOUs.

Billionaires become zero-aires.

What Would Wise Ants Do?
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
To prosper before, during and after the SHTF, the Wise Ant suggests :

__ Disengaging from the socialist democratic system,
__ End all entanglements with contracts for usury,
__ Establish a domicile upon private property absolutely owned,
__ Engage in harmless activities that generate surplus usable goods and services, trade them with others, enjoy prosperity,
__ Accumulate a 24 month supply, hidden from Gestapo Grasshoppers, who will take whatever they can.

Best Case Scenario

Wise Ant joins up with other wise ants to form a cooperative community, and constructs a fortified village - or at the least - a fortified refuge for the community.

The coming bad times will not be pleasant for the average ant, overburdened with socialist taxes, and without liberty. The roaming marauders will not be stymied by the weak government, left after the economic collapse.

Wide-Eyed
22nd January 2016, 08:35
What the lame stream corporate figure heads analysis says: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/11/cramer-the-14-steps-to-a-real-market-bottom.htmle