Denmark, a new Nazi camp.

[Tangri]

Denmark approves controversial refugee bill allowing police to seize asylum seekers' cash and valuables.

The Danish parliament has approved a controversial law allowing authorities to seize refugees’ cash and valuables, and delay them being reunited with their families.

After more than three hours of debate, the minority Liberal Party government's bill was adopted by 81 votes to 27, with the support of the opposition Social Democrats and the anti-immigration Danish People's Party (DPP). One politician abstained and 70 others were absent.

“This is a symbolic move to scare people away," argued Johanne Schmidt-Nielsen, of the opposition left Red-Green Alliance.

Arriving asylum seekers will be allowed to keep up to 10,000 kroner (£1,000) in cash and valuables but anything above that will be seized to pay for their stay.

Denmark’s original proposals set the threshold at 3,000 kroner (£300) for cash and “tangible assets of considerable value” but it was increased in the wake of international criticism.





http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-approves-controversial-refugee-bill-allowing-police-to-seize-asylum-seekers-cash-and-a6834581.html

[mojo]

Sad we forget our history.... Why make things any more difficult for refugees? Makes me think of an earlier time on what the US did on the eve of WW2. The US government turned away thousands of Jewish refugees from Germany. Not many Americans even know this.

[delfine]

Oh please!!! Denmark is the country who uses the second highest amount of money on the refugees. Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al. We are treating the people who come here very well, with food prepared by chefs catering to their special tastes. We are doing everything we can to accomodate the refugees, like letting them get appartments ahead of our own citizens, who have waited for years for at place to live. This is royal treatment, and far more than should be expected, considering around 70% of the people who come here are not actually refugees, but welfare-migrants. So give me a break with all your nazi- comparisons, it´s getting tiresome and totally out of proportions.

[Violet]

Couldn't they pick a solution less reminding of that other "solution"?

[Lifebringer]

That is the same thing that came to mind when I heard about he seizing of valuables, but perhaps they can help in building the homes they so desperately need as UK's economy isn't that stable right now, but some of their hearts are in the right place. All those people washing up on civilization's shores after that civilization aided in destroying their homeland. They want to go home, and they they want it stopped.
We in the wicked world must tell and show our leaders a "firm NO TO MORE DESTABILIZATION OF NATIONS banners"." Especially in the oppressive religious sects that still physically punish. It is our job to lead by example also here.
OUR generations must demand peace and any leader that says war war war should be firmly escorted to the door where people, adults can talk in peace. The war cheerleaders don't send their children or destabilize their lives they do it to ours.:handshake:

[Lifebringer]

The do have to be screened. ISIS didn't get recruits from thin air.

[Lifebringer]

I would think with most of those nations clearing land that the building can sooner begin when they have something of value to put down for breaking ground. The nations are trying to see, if the refugees will give all they can, as the nations are, to help themselves hve housing. Perhaps a few news casts and secure guards present when this is done voluntarily, names taken down will be the first. Not how much, but something of good faith. Besides, until this multitude can all find jobs, the situation of using the system of those nations comes to mind. God is trading high. If it was me, and I'm stating personally cause I can't take it with me when I go anyway, I would consider it a blessing that I had such valuables to help rebuild my people's lives in a foreign land that extended it's lands to them. I mean if they lead like Christ and simply ask and explain that the situation of their being there is being opposed so we need to put you here to stabilize shielding you from bombs as we try to educate your children for you to go to work and provide.

Don't forget the UK economy is not doing so well, yet still their hand in helping, is extended to them.

[CelineK]

this is a mess and EU populations cannot make up for the military complex that caused the situation in the first place.

welcoming refugees will merely encourage more wars and human smuggling which is a huge business right now... no end in sight, unless people stand up against war. As simple as that.

[Althena]

Well said delfine, stick up for your wonderful country, I'm with you on this one, 90% of the rapefugees are able bodied man that should be fighting for THEIR country and not be running away to lands that are not compatible with their ways of life and religion for free handouts.

Europe is a time bomb...

[Deega]

Oh please!!! Denmark is the country who uses the second highest amount of money on the refugees. Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al. We are treating the people who come here very well, with food prepared by chefs catering to their special tastes. We are doing everything we can to accomodate the refugees, like letting them get appartments ahead of our own citizens, who have waited for years for at place to live. This is royal treatment, and far more than should be expected, considering around 70% of the people who come here are not actually refugees, but welfare-migrants. So give me a break with all your nazi- comparisons, it´s getting tiresome and totally out of proportions.


Thanks to share this information Delfine, and I'm impressed on Denmark taking care of the migrants, hat up!

Hopefully, Denmark will send an invoice to the troublemakers (US. SaudiArabia, Quatar, Turkey and some European Countries) who started the war in Syria, Lybia, Iraq, it would only be fair.

[Tangri]

Oh please!!! Denmark is the country who uses the second highest amount of money on the refugees. Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al. We are treating the people who come here very well, with food prepared by chefs catering to their special tastes. We are doing everything we can to accomodate the refugees, like letting them get appartments ahead of our own citizens, who have waited for years for at place to live. This is royal treatment, and far more than should be expected, considering around 70% of the people who come here are not actually refugees, but welfare-migrants. So give me a break with all your nazi- comparisons, it´s getting tiresome and totally out of proportions.

What an unfortunate view of comparison

" Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al.. "

You mitigate the fails by comparison with wrongly established situation.

"Yes I hit my son, but my father also hit me when I was a boy"

I would question the integrity of the reasoning.

Next step may be, collection of golden teeth from deceased ones.

Compare numbers please

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/settlement.php?id=176&region=77&country=107

[Althena]

Talking about an unfortunate view of comparison, you're comparing Nazi concentration death camps to Denmark receiving and adapting to THEIR way of life to acommodate them?? Just wow!

No words...

[Carmody]

This is all picking leaves off branches.

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

--Henry David Thoreau

This all symptomatic residual domino considerations... and not one bit of it has anything to do with direct action against actual causal aspects.

Until one concentrates purely upon causal aspects with no side distractions, nothing will ever change.

[DouglasDanger]

Talking about an unfortunate view of comparison, you're comparing Nazi concentration death camps to Denmark receiving and adapting to THEIR way of life to acommodate them?? Just wow!

No words...

I do not have a loss of words, this is an offensive thread and only ment to be offensive to the Danish people as made obvious by the lack of thought put into the title and the lack of thought made in the second post by the threads creator. The actual words I have for the creator of this thread would get me banned from the sight and has caused me to rethink anything I may have agreed that the Creator of this thread has written before. You have completely lost all my respect Tangri,

[Althena]

Talking about an unfortunate view of comparison, you're comparing Nazi concentration death camps to Denmark receiving and adapting to THEIR way of life to acommodate them?? Just wow!

No words...

I do not have a loss of words, this is an offensive thread and only ment to be offensive to the Danish people as made obvious by the lack of thought put into the title and the lack of thought made in the second post by the threads creator. The actual words I have for the creator of this thread would get me banned from the sight and has caused me to rethink anything I may have agreed that the Creator of this thread has written before. You have completely lost all my respect Tangri,

I concur...

[lunaflare]

The title of this thread is careless and yes, offensive to Danish people. Denmark, like many European nations have been taken hostage. Why should European countries have to support 100s and 1000s of Muslim refugees? High ranking politicians have an agenda. Working out the agenda should be our concern.

Rapes are occurring. Violence is ongoing. Muslim men raping women is sanctioned according to custom (as if in a time of war). Indigenous European citizens deserve support from their own country. Many Europeans (not politicians) have been conditioned to believe they are responsible for the world's issues and problems. They are not.
European culture will be deleted and diluted with the influx of Muslim people.
Refugees-genuine refugees- need to migrate to countries that already has the infrastructure in place. Better yet, stay in their own countries and resolve and rebuild on their own terms.

Although well meaning, many Europeans are asleep to the fact that hosting so many "refugees" will destroy their economy and infrastructure. Politicians create environments that are unstable when they wish to drive the war-machine. Who benefits from the dilution of white cultural heritage? This is the question. Do Zionists benefit? The wealthy in the Arab worlds?

Nazi history is inflated to add to guilt. Guilt ridden people are easily shamed and thus easy to mind control.
The history of world war 2 needs further examination and deconstruction.
Schindler's List is a Hollywood version of history. In other words, it is closer to fantasy and has an agenda.

I believe in preserving cultural heritage. Keep to your country of origin.
If you don't, then adapt to the culture you are entering.
with respect
with gratitude

my thoughts....

[delfine]

Oh please!!! Denmark is the country who uses the second highest amount of money on the refugees. Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al. We are treating the people who come here very well, with food prepared by chefs catering to their special tastes. We are doing everything we can to accomodate the refugees, like letting them get appartments ahead of our own citizens, who have waited for years for at place to live. This is royal treatment, and far more than should be expected, considering around 70% of the people who come here are not actually refugees, but welfare-migrants. So give me a break with all your nazi- comparisons, it´s getting tiresome and totally out of proportions.

What an unfortunate view of comparison

" Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al.. "

You mitigate the fails by comparison with wrongly established situation.

"Yes I hit my son, but my father also hit me when I was a boy"

I would question the integrity of the reasoning.

Next step may be, collection of golden teeth from deceased ones.

Compare numbers please

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/settlement.php?id=176&region=77&country=107

You must be out of your mind. There have been repeated reports of so called refugees coming to Europe with bundles of 500 Euro notes. Don´t you think it´s fair to demand that they use them before letting the danish taxpayers pay for their stay? Apart from that, it has never been intended to take things like wedding rings or jewellery with sentimental value not to speak of gold teeth. In fact it has been so difficult to execute this law because the police complain that it is impossible to know for sure what to confiscate, so the end result is most likely that it will never be used.

[Tangri]

Oh please!!! Denmark is the country who uses the second highest amount of money on the refugees. Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al. We are treating the people who come here very well, with food prepared by chefs catering to their special tastes. We are doing everything we can to accomodate the refugees, like letting them get appartments ahead of our own citizens, who have waited for years for at place to live. This is royal treatment, and far more than should be expected, considering around 70% of the people who come here are not actually refugees, but welfare-migrants. So give me a break with all your nazi- comparisons, it´s getting tiresome and totally out of proportions.

What an unfortunate view of comparison

" Besides, demanding that refugees pay what they can for their stay, is not different from what other countries do e.g. Switzerland, Holland et al.. "

You mitigate the fails by comparison with wrongly established situation.

"Yes I hit my son, but my father also hit me when I was a boy"

I would question the integrity of the reasoning.

Next step may be, collection of golden teeth from deceased ones.

Compare numbers please

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/settlement.php?id=176&region=77&country=107


You must be out of your mind. There have been repeated reports of so called refugees coming to Europe with bundles of 500 Euro notes. Don´t you think it´s fair to demand that they use them before letting the danish taxpayers pay for their stay? Apart from that, it has never been intended to take things like wedding rings or jewellery with sentimental value not to speak of gold teeth. In fact it has been so difficult to execute this law because the police complain that it is impossible to know for sure what to confiscate, so the end result is most likely that it will never be used.


After WWII Canada and USA did not confiscate refugee Jews 's wealth and make them pay for their new lands .


Maybe I am out of of my mind or you are wilfully ignorant. These people you are giving sample with 500 Euro notes are not more than several which can not support the harsh law.

The Idea(confiscating personal wealth from refugees) is fundamentally wrong, beside that you and other party from submarine passengers' grandsons hate towards word of new Nazi concept .


Nazism Na·zism (nät′sĭz′əm, năt′-) also Na·zi·ism (-sē-ĭz′əm)

The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy. There is no German implication or Jorge Rafael Videla 's fan club member criticism in the definition. I was just try to demonstrate
New Ideas of the body of political and economic doctrines

You are mixing the words " It is insult to Danish people" No definitely is not! It is a criticism Government of Denmark 's new law.

Government act do not bind or make responsible that nation's people.

There is a clue in the below video.

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https://www.facebook.com/HelpForRefugeesInMolyvos/

[Tangri]

Default Re: Rich people have feelings too
The further you look up the tiers of the pyramid of money and power, the more sociopathy you'll find. So, they may feel some emotions, such as feeling "frightened" that they might lose their fortunes, but among their feelings you won't find compassion for humans and non-human life forms. Someone who cannot feel compassion or remorse (part of the definition of a sociopath) may indeed feel feelings like joy with a stock market rally, but not the (in my opinion) most important feelings a human can possess.

I feel sorry for sociopaths. I cannot imaging the hollowness and emptiness of not feeling compassion. I feel sorry for them, but I also recognize they are the absolute worst choices of whom should be in charge of anything affecting life on Earth.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79735-Rich-people-have-feelings-too&p=931245&viewfull=1#post931245

I can only thank you Dennis for your quote

[Sierra]

The do have to be screened. ISIS didn't get recruits from thin air.

You're right. ISIS gets their recruits from the CIA (hence the bundles of the 500 euro notes).