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WhiteLove
3rd April 2016, 10:26
At 01:05 in this video you can see how a crop circle is created by a foreign force, possibly by ETs. I find this video authentic and fascinating.

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6pounder
3rd April 2016, 11:13
this is wow!

justntime2learn
3rd April 2016, 11:18
Thank you WhiteLove :)
That was a very fast 15 min. and so much more than just crop circles.

A wonderful start to the day ...

Cidersomerset
3rd April 2016, 12:31
I have posted this several times and was listening to it just now funnily enough.....


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Uploaded on 14 Nov 2011


iON: Crop circles are the nodes of the phytoplankton in the plants that respond
a certain way, which makes them have a certain vibrational frequency, which
they lay down, because they don't crush the field, they actually grow to the ground.
It changes the way they lay. www.howionic.com

sheme
3rd April 2016, 13:06
Best 15 mins in a long time. Thank you.

Cidersomerset
3rd April 2016, 13:49
Really good video and whether they are being made by us from the future now as
there is no time just one gigantic present , trying to warn us of the path we
have taken after WW11 and the atomic /nuclear age we are in. Or benevolent ET's
doing something similar or another agenda ? The crop circle phenomenon
is very real and some of them are not made by intel sponsored 'circle ' makers and
hoaxers

This is more for 'newbies ' looking in or anyone who has missed it , I posted this
on a thread yesterday. The whole show is good and you can find the beginning
from the U'tube links , and goes into why Richard suspects 'Team Satan' were
state sponsored circle makers to sow confusion in the community and discredit
it in the mainstream public eye.......

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Re: Newswire: CIA infiltrating Alternative Media Sites

I thought the Internet was developed and set up by the mil and intel
service and presumed they were infiltrating it from the start and its
part of the 'five eyes' and greater surveillance systems in some ways
and I took it for granted they have been touring the sites employing
trolls and 'sleepers' to listen , infiltrate and sometimes lead and
distract us if they can.....

They have done it in every other walk of life and the media and
there are many examples . The crop circles are a good example
and Rich D Hall did a good documentary about that....



Pt 5 & 6 exposes John Lundburgs ( team Satan ) possible links with MI5 with some
interresting insights to his site etc....

Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth - Part 5

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81760-Crop-Circle-Season....-How-was-this-one-created

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89795-Video-capturing-the-creation-of-a-crop-circle&p=1057741#post1057741

Cidersomerset
3rd April 2016, 14:21
I was watching the top vid from the U'tube link , while eating
dinner and this one came on after and I started watching and
it looks good. The speaker is an experienced crop circle researcher
who works in the aviation industry.....


Crop formations - Messages for Humanity. Lecture by Alan Foster

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Published on 6 Nov 2012

Lecture given at the international UFO conference, in Bergen, Norway, 5th-7th of October 2012.

ZooLife
3rd April 2016, 20:09
Many of the crop circles I have seen on the Net have a ire similarity to the universal language of sacred geometry.

Cidersomerset
4th April 2016, 09:48
I found the full version of Rich Halls documentary for easier viewing...


Richplanet - Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth

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Published on 15 May 2015


Richard D. Hall's no nonsense expose of the facts behind the modern day crop
circle phenomenon cuts through the pseudo science, the rumors and the
disinformation leaving the viewer with a clear picture of the true situation. The
film features the most objective British crop circle researchers in the business:
David Cayton, Robert Hulse and Roy Dutton. Until now, their work has been
kept largely out of the public eye, and is unleashed in this extremely telling and
poignant documentary which leaves no stone unturned. The evidence presented
will leave you in no doubt that there are two entirely exclusive instigators of the
modern day crop circle phenomenon, one of which is non human. The results are
chilling and could change your view of the way you see the world's media
organisations and the powers that control them.

conk
4th April 2016, 17:24
That part of the video, at 1:05, has been attributed to a hoaxer that worked at or owned a video company. He admitted to the hoax. Many other aspects of crop circles cannot be so easily explained.

TargeT
4th April 2016, 18:12
That part of the video, at 1:05, has been attributed to a hoaxer that worked at or owned a video company. He admitted to the hoax. Many other aspects of crop circles cannot be so easily explained.

lots of suspicious video artifacts in here.. the fact that I can see them with out any enhancement does not bode well for deeper analysis....

I would not be surprised AT ALL if crop circles are just a big ass psyop with a few independent hoaxters mixed in.

meat suit
4th April 2016, 19:57
That part of the video, at 1:05, has been attributed to a hoaxer that worked at or owned a video company. He admitted to the hoax. Many other aspects of crop circles cannot be so easily explained.

I first saw that footage in the 80s... way before digital video or pc based video editing was available to the public... still may have been hoaxed even then...

Cidersomerset
4th April 2016, 22:10
From further down this post.....



So why is John Lundberg not arrested for confessing to criminal damage ? He has
just confessed on radio and to be fair he has been confessing to criminal damage
and trespass since the 1990's. Something is not right about this !!


When the modern crop circle phenomenon became noticed by the public in the
1980's it caused controversy. Doug & Dave did their first circle in 1978 and have
been doing them until early 1990's. Then lots of copy cat hoaxers are supposed to
have done all the rest since. There has been no doubt they were doing some of
them over the years and is what Rich .D Hall was exposing in his vid in #6 . So we
have pretty good suspicions some groups were sponsored by intel agencies to
create crop art , and there numerous reports of black and military helicopters flying
over them. There are military bases near by but that not account for the mil
presence over fresh sites monitoring for real circles.

John Lundbergs Team Satan and other groups took up the job as its not easy to
plan and drive out to a field and start 'stomping' they had to be designed and
transport and labour provided even if they enjoyed doing it and it was a hobby and
they got a kick out of trespass ,criminal damage to the farmers crops and hoaxing
people for coming up to 40 years.

So all the circles this year will be made by John Lundberg and his friends & various
groups of hoaxers and sponsored 'proffessionals' like Team Satan.....

I find it very hard to believe.... and why ? just for the crack.

It could be a psyop ? not sure for what purpose ? to create a phenomenon only to
debunk it. They have done this in other theatre like politics , false flags, terror etc,
but unless it was part of a blue beam event I'm not sure.

Its more likely to be part of a dis info plan to hide the fact from the general public
that some of the circles are made by unknown creators ( or known) and they have
been muddying the waters since it was picked up by the media in the 1980's. That's
where I am at the moment on the subject....

So all these hoaxers are criminals for trespass and crop damage,and they make
them over night as darkness hours decrease to 4 - 6 hrs and are never seen or
caught by farmers and crop circle watchers over all this time......

How many appear?

Around 250 crop designs around the world appear each year on average. Figures
vary slightly from year to year, up and down. Several thousand have been
documented since records began.

http://www.swirlednews.com/crop.asp

http://temporarytemples.co.uk/crop-circles/2015-crop-circles

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Doug and Dave - South Today 1991

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Uploaded on 3 Jan 2009


Doug Bower & Dave Chorley break their story to the world with the help of Today
Newspaper. They create a crop circle using their "stomper board" technique to a
group of journalists and reporters, which included crop circle researchers Colin
Andrews and Pat Delgado.

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Towards the end of this vid Doug says seriously he really thinks something was
guiding him to make circles......

Countryfile - Circlemaking Special 1998

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Uploaded on 25 Mar 2011


A special one off show covering crop circles.

The team go undercover to liase with circlemaker Doug Bower and
discover the truth to the human angle behind circlemaking.

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aprox 7 mins in the narrator says when asked why the three circle makers
started making them. They say that unexplained circles kept popping up
over night near their home town and they wanted to find out if humans
could produce them. Which begs the question who were making them ?
more hoaxers ....LOL


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Uploaded on 26 Mar 2011

This US show employs the talents of a London based team of circlemakers
to create a demonstration circle in New Zealand.

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In this interview he says that they only do it , to make people believe they are
created by ET's. Then he talks about supernatural incidents and he is not a died in
the wool skeptic. Something does not feel right about these groups. He says they
have had odd experiences making circles now and again , flashes of lights.

He then says all crop circles are being made by me and my friends.

So why John Lundberg not arrested for confessing to criminal damage ? He has
just confessed on radio and to be fair he has been confessing to criminal damage
and trespass since the 1990's. Something is not right about this !!

He comes over as an 'Ass Hole ' and I would find it hard not to fall out with him big
time if I met him down the pub....

Oh he is now claiming credit for the Wiltshire tourist board ....LOL

He says they do not claim there work , to stay anonymous , yet he says he and his
friends have made them all. This interview is really winding me up ...LOL .He
contradicts himself all the way thru the interview imo and he says he is still not
a sceptic and is interested in the super natural.


Crop Circle Maker John Lundberg NTS Radio Interview

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Published on 10 Feb 2013

John Lundberg talks about his circle making activities. Interviewed on NTS Radio 2012

TargeT
4th April 2016, 22:11
I first saw that footage in the 80s... way before digital video or pc based video editing was available to the public... still may have been hoaxed even then...

Digital editing is just for the lazy... a lot of the techniques we use now were created from physical techniques that were used in editing rooms until computers showed up.

thepainterdoug
4th April 2016, 23:32
thanks Whitelove/ colin andrews is well versed in this subject for many years. He says many of the circles are man made, but that the makers actually don't understand why they are making them. its like they are drawn or commanded to do so. This adds an entirely different spin to the word fake. Perhaps they are inspired by the very source themselves as colin believes??
there are enough authentic crop circles to prove their existence. All you need is one. The entire thing a mystery.

conk
5th April 2016, 17:14
That part of the video, at 1:05, has been attributed to a hoaxer that worked at or owned a video company. He admitted to the hoax. Many other aspects of crop circles cannot be so easily explained.

I first saw that footage in the 80s... way before digital video or pc based video editing was available to the public... still may have been hoaxed even then...

The fellow who admitted to hoaxing the orbs may be part of a counter hoax of sorts. If the orbs were truly real, then perhaps a COINTEL type group could position the "hoaxer" as the one who created them. It's becoming more and more difficult to determine who plays for which team.