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giovonni
8th December 2010, 09:01
The myth of democracy in America :sad:

For those who have not figured it all out yet ~ what's really happening to America and its people? :sleep:

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Earlier this year, journalist Chris Hedges was interviewed by “Russia Today”, the video of which is presented below. The substance of Hedges’s discussion regards how the United States has evolved into a form of “inverted totalitarianism”. He also discusses the inevitable collapse of the US infrastructure, as well as Obama’s uselessness as a “political brand”.

In his article, “Democracy in America is a Useful Fiction”, Hedges defines “inverted totalitarianism”

“Inverted totalitarianism represents “the political coming of age of corporate power and the political demobilization of the citizenry. Inverted totalitarianism differs from classical forms of totalitarianism, which revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader, and finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state. The corporate forces behind inverted totalitarianism do not, as classical totalitarian movements do, boast of replacing decaying structures with a new, revolutionary structure. They purport to honor electoral politics, freedom and the Constitution. But they so corrupt and manipulate the levers of power as to make democracy impossible.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_quWatFkY&feature=player_embedded

more on this~ from Chris Hedges


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSthWJwkMM&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTVaJZ1SRq4&feature=related

Carmody
8th December 2010, 18:29
Well, it does help to have a descriptive label for the thing that we know to exist. Labeling can be both good and bad. In this case and way, the label is apparently-good.

Fredkc
8th December 2010, 19:26
In his article, “Democracy in America is a Useful Fiction”, Hedges defines “inverted totalitarianism”.
“Inverted totalitarianism represents “the political coming of age of corporate power and the political demobilization of the citizenry. Inverted totalitarianism differs from classical forms of totalitarianism, which revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader, and finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state. The corporate forces behind inverted totalitarianism do not, as classical totalitarian movements do, boast of replacing decaying structures with a new, revolutionary structure. They purport to honor electoral politics, freedom and the Constitution. But they so corrupt and manipulate the levers of power as to make democracy impossible.”

To begin with, the very last thing the founders wanted in this country, was a democracy. And thank God we've never had one!

Now, that alone would take about a half hour to explain, but what was intended was actually much better - it's called a Republic.

What Chris Hedges is painfully trying to describe already has a name. It's called Corporatism. aka Fascism. Textbook case, in fact.

What this nation has been lead into, is simply that. The reason our current, and previous three presidents, have been so successful at bring this about lies mostly with the ignorance of the people. They were warned, back in 1959, of exactly what they've allowed to happen.

I will listen to the vids, in a bit, and write more later,
Fred

Steven
8th December 2010, 19:58
I couldn't agree more with Fred.

The Republic is the form of governance that will certainly rebirth from its ashes in the future. Any society have to recognize the Laws and Principles of Life and respect them. Democratie is the reign of the controlled and manipulated majority, I call it Plutocratie.

Namaste, Steven

Ahkenaten
8th December 2010, 20:04
Yes Fred it is well to remember that democracy in its purest form IS the last thing the founding fathers envisioned. They sought to create a system that intermediated between the masses and the elites and that is where the republican form came in. The Federalist Papers gives an insight into the intense discussions around these issues - and incidentally the extremely high level of intelligence and education of the people involved ALL WHO NEVER ATTENDED A PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THEIR LIVES AND WHO WERE MOSTLY HOME-EDUCATED OR SELF-EDUCATED.

Anyway the horrifying spectacle of the French Revolution and Jacobin Extremism was going on at the time (OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!)The very design of the city of Washington D.C. was to short-circuit revolution in the streets...............

Those who rallied the country for war against the Crown were motivated by self-interest (no surprise here) mainly the tariff system whereby the Crown extracted levies and strictly limited goods maintained in the colonies for home-consumption (for example wide boards were called "King's Boards" which belonged, by right to the Crown. Those found posessing them were in violation of the law. Wide kings' boards in homes in New England stand to this day as a symbol of those who rejected the King's broad claims to ownership.)

So, our system is not what it seems, and was so, by design from its inception.

The last thing our founding fathers wanted was PURE DEMOCRACY, which they feared. No surprise that the form of government they created has degenerated into its present form.

We are the frogs in the pot on the stove and the water temperature is reaching the boiling point.

Too bad more people don't WAKE UP and understand what is happening!

grannyfranny100
8th December 2010, 20:05
giovonni ,

Thank you for turning me on to Chris Hedges. It seems impossible to end the corporate feeding trough in congress. Instead we need to buy locally grown organic foods, find hand made gifts at places like etsy.com, stop buying Pharma products when one can find natural health products and maybe set up local exchanges such as Letsystem. Just open your mind to alternatives to our corrupt systems run by corporations. Congress is dead as far as representatives of people.

Granny Franny

giovonni
9th December 2010, 01:05
Thank you All ~ for your comments! i believe Chris Hedges articulates and sums it all up very well.

As grannyfranny100 stated~ "just open your mind to alternatives..."

From this point > it is up to us individually now ~ in creating a new way of living together :thumb: