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astrid
8th December 2010, 11:15
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August 2010
Hero or villian, Julian Assange stunned the world when he leaked more than 90,000 war files. Accompanying Assange through every step of the unfolding drama, this report reveals a man on a mission.
"We get attacked not in proportion to whatever we are doing wrong or doing right, but in proportion to the impact that our material is having. They'll attack the messenger and try to discolour the message by proxy." Shaking off claims that he has endangered lives, Assange is determined: "this historical archive belongs to the people of Afghanistan". Speaking from a temporary HQ in London, Assange and his nomadic team may be staying on the move, but they don't plan on staying in hiding. Packing up his rucksack and heading 'to the bunker in The Guardian' to prepare for the release, the whistleblower is stoic: "My function in Wikileaks is to take all the heat. I've had my baptismal fire". And he isn't showing signs of stopping; threatening to release a further 15,000 reports, his message is clear: "stay tuned".
( apologies if this has already been posted)
This Video i found very insightful, it also details why some of the leaks have hit the press before wikileaks website...
update: Inside wikileaks- USA
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November 2010
Julian Assange has been labelled one of the most dangerous men on earth. With the most comprehensive archive of background reports in the world, we get right inside the guarded world of the whistle-blower.
"We want to create a system where there is guaranteed free press across the world...", enthuses Assange. Yet critics call the actions of the whistle-blower 'activism' not journalism, arguing that his releases are 'agenda-driven' and 'reckless'. Shaking off claims that he is endangering lives, Assange and his nomadic team may be staying on the move, but they don't intend to stay in hiding. Fly-on-the-wall reporting reveals a quietly determined man on a mission.Whether he is to be condemned or congratulated, Assange is adamant that "the true nature of this world is being revealed", and with more releases yet to come his message is clear: "stay tuned".
Produced by ABC Australia
Distributed by Journeyman Pictures
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Julian Assage -- the founder of Wikileaks -- has remained shrouded in mystery since the launch of his site in 2006.
This fascinating expose reveals the man behind the leaks.
Assange spent the majority of his youth travelling from place to place, attending 37 different schools and being charged with numerous hacking offences. While he continues to move, he does so to maintain his extensive network of Wikileaks contacts and to avoid the unwanted attention of governments. Despite frequently hitting the front pages of newspapers around the world, Assange has somehow managed to retain a low profile. This is now changing as he finally steps into the spotlight to defend Wikileaks and to address what he feels is a false perception the media is portraying of him. "The true nature of this world is being revealed. It's not being interpreted for you. There it is, face to face from the inside". Now, with Wikileaks, he is finally offering it to the world.
Produced by SBS
Distributed by Journeyman Pictures
ponda
8th December 2010, 11:41
Nice find astrid
The latest is that Geoffrey Robertson a recognized extradition specialist is supposed to be flying in from Australia to represent Julian Assange.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/geoffrey-robertson-to-defend-assange-20101207-18oc6.html
http://www.bordermail.com.au/news/world/world/general/geoffrey-robertson-to-defend-assange/2020504.aspx
astrid
8th December 2010, 12:08
Yes , i heard that also, Geoffery Robertson is very HIGHLY regarded here for his work in human rights, hes the man for the Job for sure. There is huge and growing support here in Aus for JA, especially amongst writers, journalists and some politicians.... For all the questions surrounding him and Wikileaks, change is happening!!
bluestflame
8th December 2010, 12:33
my take on this , he needs support NOW so he's not stitched up ...whatever happens needs to be done in transparent manner
Ahkenaten
8th December 2010, 20:56
Kind of interesting the turn-about in the 'official' position of the Australian Govt. concerning Australian citizen, J.A. These cynical individuals saw the way the wind of public opinion was blowing and are doing damage control...............it remains to be seen what happens to J.A. I myself can't help but wonder where Wikileaks draws the line in the sand and what will prompt release of the encryption key for the insurance policy sent around the world. I want to see ALL the documents released, including the insurance policy documents so everyone can look at them in the clear, cool light of day. Congratulations citizens of Australia! Now if only the citizens in other countries could exert such an influence on their rulers.
Teakai
8th December 2010, 23:08
Thanks, Astrid.
I'm trying to get my head around the media stuff.
Have they been put in a position which forces their hand - is 'the guardian' not controlled by the 'ptw'?
Are editors finally starting to grow some cojones?
Are we still only being given filtered doses?
Is the release of this info all part of the plan of the 'ptw'?
So many questions.
I got a good feeling from Asange during that interview. I'd like to think he was one of the good guys.
Anchor
8th December 2010, 23:20
Julian is playing this game so well, it is hard to discern if anyone is pulling his strings or not.
Right at this moment, I think that what wikileaks has done is historic - and seems to be for the best. It certainly has lifted a rock on a sunny day, and we see the bugs all scurrying for the cover of darkness.
If it does not end up with the internet being bought under draconian "great firewall of the NWO" control, then what will be achieved will be a monumentally positive outcome for the world.
John..
witchy1
9th December 2010, 00:02
I love that his statement re the war files are for the Afgan people - brownie points for this.
Not sure why they did the close up on his holey sock
I think this is a fully collaborative effort on behalf of all the major papers described in the vid - interesting that the guardian allowed the bunker at their place. They must be all secretly supporting and funding wikileaks???? Maybe the journos beleive that this is the place for them to anonymously get their information out to the public.
He is right, other than denting egos, (my slant) there has been no person placed in danger as a result of the release of the documents. (except for himself)
Thanks Astrid - it certainly helps to get a visual on the person
Teakai
9th December 2010, 00:10
Well, I wrote to the pm again saying they had an obligation to protect an Australian citizen. I don't know if it will get read or not, but it definitely wouldn't hurt if we all inundated the gvt with demands that are due to Australian citizens. (and should be to all, really - and carried out)
Here's the link: http://www.pm.gov.au/PM_Connect/contact_your_pm_form
for anyone who feels so inclined. 2 minutes of your time, if we all act together it could have remarkable effect. And at least whoever is reading will know that Australians are active participants in their country.
I think we owe it to whistleblowers to support them however we can.
bluestflame
9th December 2010, 00:26
I get wikileaks is a good thing , transparency , all that , it's just not complete , unless that's the stuff that's coming out in the "insurance" release ....mentioned other places the conspicuous absence of anthing derogitory on israels part ...could it be the mossad fed wikileaks with its own intelligence ( selective of course)
witchy1
9th December 2010, 00:27
Hi T, do you put in your street address when emailing her?
witchy1
9th December 2010, 00:31
I get wikileaks is a good thing , transparency , all that , it's just not complete , unless that's the stuff that's coming out in the "insurance" release ....mentioned other places the conspicuous absence of anthing derogitory on israels part ...could it be the mossad fed wikileaks with its own intelligence ( selective of course)
I think that there is just simply so much information being fed to them, and with so little staff to verify an consider the information makes slows the process. Having seen the vid has helped me understand how they work. I wonder if they have just priotitized information and tried to group it all together to send out rather than random bits and pieces.
I think the best is yet to come
(I still do not forgive him about his 9/11 comments, I wish someone else would ask him the question)
bluestflame
9th December 2010, 00:41
yeah , that's the big thing , information overload , makes it easy to get other stuff done in the background while the world's focus in on wikileaks
Teakai
9th December 2010, 00:54
Hi T, do you put in your street address when emailing her?
No bloody way, Witchy - I don't trust the government one iota :D
And I use my political & letters to the editor - name, rather than my real name. It's an anagram.
My family don't like me being politically outspoken so it's mostly for their benefit, plus, I like my privacy.
bluestflame
9th December 2010, 01:00
yeah , no doubt they'l love to know exactly who the outspoken and intelligent ones are
witchy1
9th December 2010, 01:13
Haha, so you dont think they can track your IP address - lol
Teakai
9th December 2010, 01:20
Haha, so you dont think they can track your IP address - lol
Yeah, course they could if they really wanted to, but I don't want to make anything easy for them. :)
Plus, I don't think I would be worth their energy to go to the bother.
Thinking about it - I did get a phone call from a gvt office wanting 10 minutes of my time after I wrote about the Kevin Bracken - 911 thing. :lol:
Hubby and I were busy having a tiff at the time so I gave them the telemarketer brush off and got back to it.
I wonder now if if they were doing some kind of poll getting numbers on who thought 911 was a hoax.
Or maybe they were going to ask for my address :lol:
Anchor
9th December 2010, 01:27
I get wikileaks is a good thing , transparency , all that , it's just not complete , unless that's the stuff that's coming out in the "insurance" release ....mentioned other places the conspicuous absence of anthing derogitory on israels part ...could it be the mossad fed wikileaks with its own intelligence ( selective of course)
I have a hunch that you wont see the insurance release, unless Mr Assange were to have some kind of accident, or was extradited in a plane that was to have an unfortunate incident, or some kind of "crazed" or "deranged" member of the public takes a pop at thim etc etc (you know how its done...)
witchy1
9th December 2010, 01:30
Ive had 3 telemarketers from the gvt ring recently
one just last week wanting to do an emmissions thing - like come into the house to check "appliances" for energy leakage -originally thought why not, then thought again........ like f*** off. Had 2 follow up calls asking to reconsider - I would be doing the gvt a favour if I said yes.......mmmmmmmmmmmm
the other two were surveys about general polictical crap - my pleasure.
Other than that its every night for new phone rates, holidays computer stuff........going to by a whistle;)
bluestflame
9th December 2010, 01:33
I had a serveyer from the beurau of statistics come to me door and ask if i'd complete a survey , as a rep of the household , I live in an apartment complex , a block of units , so why me ?
Teakai
9th December 2010, 01:39
I have a hunch that you wont see the insurance release, unless Mr Assange were to have some kind of accident, or was extradited in a plane that was to have an unfortunate incident, or some kind of "crazed" or "deranged" member of the public takes a pop at thim etc etc (you know how its done...)
Very possible, John.
Or maybe it's being witheld until its release can be used to greatest effect.
For instance, look how many people are talking about the harm wikileaks is doing for security and getting distracted by the rape charges.
Releasing it now may very well waste the import and impact that it's worth, becasuse people still have to get out of their previous thinking patterns and realising that they have been living in a PR bubble.
Teakai
9th December 2010, 01:52
Ive had 3 telemarketers from the gvt ring recently
one just last week wanting to do an emmissions thing - like come into the house to check "appliances" for energy leakage -originally thought why not, then thought again........ like f*** off. Had 2 follow up calls asking to reconsider - I would be doing the gvt a favour if I said yes.......mmmmmmmmmmmm
the other two were surveys about general polictical crap - my pleasure.
Other than that its every night for new phone rates, holidays computer stuff........going to by a whistle;)
Seriously?
I've never had a call from a gvt department before that one.
And what struck me as a rather weird was the guy emphasised twice that he was calling from a 'government office - or did he say department??' - like that was supposed to make me go, "oh, a government department, why of course I've got 10 minutes for a government department"
NOT!!!
And then the next day (or day after) I heard that a poll had been done about 911.
And I just wondered if maybe it had been about that - because I'd just emailed in support of Kevin Bracken's comments and I couldn't imagine why else a 'government department' would call me.
In which case I wish I had taken it and told them exactly what I thought about 911.
bluestflame
9th December 2010, 01:57
sounds like the govt wants to know if they will get more votes if they support a 911 inquiry or not
Teakai
9th December 2010, 02:05
sounds like the govt wants to know if they will get more votes if they support a 911 inquiry or not
I don't know, bluestflame - they've only just gotten in so I don't think they're too worried about another election yet. They've got heaps they could screw up before then and now to seal their political fate :)
I'm wondering if they're just trying to suss out how aware, or unaware people are. Testing the waters perhaps.
It's hard to get a feel for people's opinions just going by the mainstream - as we saw with Kevin Bracken - mainstream puts it across like everybody accepts the official story and it's only loons and nutters who don't.
I think they found the reality was a little different - which changes the playing field somewhat for them.
Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 05:07
I get wikileaks is a good thing , transparency , all that , it's just not complete , unless that's the stuff that's coming out in the "insurance" release ....mentioned other places the conspicuous absence of anthing derogitory on israels part ...could it be the mossad fed wikileaks with its own intelligence ( selective of course)
Hi Blue - as far as I know they haven't even released 1,000 of the documents yet from the 250K mega file..............it is coming out in drips, drips drips. I think what someone said is that they release to the media outlets who then in turn, release. That way everyone's butt is covered......ah - Sort of.
p.s. please see my post under Deega's thread for the extensive analysis I did of the Indybay article alleging that J.A. made prior agreements with Israel and that he took money for it. I pretty much debunked THAT article - just by taking the time to fact-check sources.
astrid
9th December 2010, 06:05
Ive had 3 telemarketers from the gvt ring recently
one just last week wanting to do an emmissions thing - like come into the house to check "appliances" for energy leakage -originally thought why not, then thought again........ like f*** off. Had 2 follow up calls asking to reconsider - I would be doing the gvt a favour if I said yes.......mmmmmmmmmmmm
the other two were surveys about general polictical crap - my pleasure.
Other than that its every night for new phone rates, holidays computer stuff........going to by a whistle;)
@witchy , HA... must be the season, i had an insurance telemarketer call me earlier, and when i said i was pretty right for insurance thanks, they asked if i had a funeral plan !!
astrid
9th December 2010, 06:09
i just found a USA version from the same filmmaker...
kCmjmDXp7TI
November 2010
Julian Assange has been labelled one of the most dangerous men on earth. With the most comprehensive archive of background reports in the world, we get right inside the guarded world of the whistle-blower.
"We want to create a system where there is guaranteed free press across the world...", enthuses Assange. Yet critics call the actions of the whistle-blower 'activism' not journalism, arguing that his releases are 'agenda-driven' and 'reckless'. Shaking off claims that he is endangering lives, Assange and his nomadic team may be staying on the move, but they don't intend to stay in hiding. Fly-on-the-wall reporting reveals a quietly determined man on a mission.Whether he is to be condemned or congratulated, Assange is adamant that "the true nature of this world is being revealed", and with more releases yet to come his message is clear: "stay tuned".
Produced by ABC Australia
Distributed by Journeyman Pictures
Note: I will add this to OP for continuity.
witchy1
9th December 2010, 06:10
[QUOTE]they asked if i had a funeral plan [QUOTE] you've got to be bloody kidding???????????? Are you in Sydney????
astrid
9th December 2010, 06:13
nope , im in country victoria, and hope to live a long long time... lol
cool that these are Aussie produced vids, im going to go through all thier clips and see what other gems are in there, stay tuned.,,
wow... lots of goodies here... i know, i know... straying from the topic... but worth a look peoples , they cover loads of topics
http://www.journeyman.tv/58441/documentaries/documentaries.html
"Journeyman Pictures is London's leading independent distributor of topical news features, documentaries and footage. We're like a video encyclopedia of the world."
Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 06:39
Seriously?
I've never had a call from a gvt department before that one.
And what struck me as a rather weird was the guy emphasised twice that he was calling from a 'government office - or did he say department??' - like that was supposed to make me go, "oh, a government department, why of course I've got 10 minutes for a government department"
NOT!!!
And then the next day (or day after) I heard that a poll had been done about 911.
And I just wondered if maybe it had been about that - because I'd just emailed in support of Kevin Bracken's comments and I couldn't imagine why else a 'government department' would call me.
In which case I wish I had taken it and told them exactly what I thought about 911.
I wonder why the govt. of a country outside the US would be polling citizens about 911? WTF? Do you think they want to assess how guillible and stupid the Amerikans are in comparison to other countries where more than likely somewhat of an educational system still exists and people aren't as bombarded everyday with propaganda? You know, so they can figure out new metrics and methods?!
astrid
9th December 2010, 07:15
Bumping, 3 videos now up, see OP.....
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