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Anchor
9th December 2010, 04:00
Ellsberg: “EVERY attack now made on WikiLeaks and Julian Assange was made against me and the release of the Pentagon Papers at the time.”



WASHINGTON – December 7 – The following statement was released today, signed by Daniel Ellsberg, Frank Grevil, Katharine Gun, David MacMichael, Ray McGovern, Craig Murray, Coleen Rowley and Larry Wilkerson; all are associated with Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence.

WikiLeaks has teased the genie of transparency out of a very opaque bottle, and powerful forces in America, who thrive on secrecy, are trying desperately to stuff the genie back in. The people listed below this release would be pleased to shed light on these exciting new developments.

How far down the U.S. has slid can be seen, ironically enough, in a recent commentary in Pravda (that’s right, Russia’s Pravda): “What WikiLeaks has done is make people understand why so many Americans are politically apathetic … After all, the evils committed by those in power can be suffocating, and the sense of powerlessness that erupts can be paralyzing, especially when … government evildoers almost always get away with their crimes. …”

More here, go on, its a good read...
http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/public-accuracy-press-release

And it contains this apposite biblical reference:

“There is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, nothing hidden that will not be made known. Everything you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight; what you have whispered in locked rooms will be proclaimed from the rooftops.”
– Luke 12:2-3


(Update: The article was written by Michael Ellsberg, not Daniel Ellsberg, but the article does quote Daniel)


John..

Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 04:02
So be it..........................................

ponda
9th December 2010, 04:16
Yes John, Ellsberg has been through it all before.


Something else that i am waiting for is when some of the well respected and learned people of the world start to stand up and get behind JA and Wiki and what they mean which is transparency and freedom of speech.

When and if they do they could well be putting their careers on the line.

When some famous names and faces start supporting Wiki then it should certainly make a differnce in my opinion.

witchy1
9th December 2010, 04:32
in a recent commentary in Pravda (that’s right, Russia’s Pravda): “What WikiLeaks has done is make people understand why so many Americans are politically apathetic … After all, the evils committed by those in power can be suffocating, and the sense of powerlessness that erupts can be paralyzing, especially when … government evildoers almost always get away with their crimes. …”

Well the russians would know about lies and deceit of people in postition of power. Thank you for this post, and I dont want to get too excited, but just maybeeeeeeeeeeeee...............

Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 04:32
If everyone stood up there would be NOTHING that anyone could do. As they said in the old story about the Nazis, ......."and then they came for me"

Witchy let's not get TOO enthused about Pravda............Russia is STILL an extremely repressive state and I imagine they are getting a kick out of kicking the US (albeit deservedly) in the you-know-what, especially with the disturbing leaks about the US trying to develop treaties and agreements with others against Russian interests outside NATO, a violation of NATO.

Anchor
9th December 2010, 07:46
Yes John, Ellsberg has been through it all before.


Something else that i am waiting for is when some of the well respected and learned people of the world start to stand up and get behind JA and Wiki and what they mean which is transparency and freedom of speech.

When and if they do they could well be putting their careers on the line.

When some famous names and faces start supporting Wiki then it should certainly make a differnce in my opinion.

I think that may have started.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/12/08/3087656.htm


Journalist and documentary filmmaker John Pilger is one of many high profile figures to come out in support of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who has been refused bail in London on sexual assault charges...

Or these people:
Dr Jeff Sparrow, author and editor
Lizzie O’Shea, Social Justice Lawyer, Maurice Blackburn
Professor Noam Chomsky, writer and academic
Antony Loewenstein, journalist and author
Mungo MacCallum, journalist and writer
Professor Peter Singer, author and academic
Adam Bandt, MP
Senator Bob Brown
Senator Scott Ludlam
Julian Burnside QC, barrister
Jeff Lawrence, Secretary, Australian Council of Trade Unions
Professor Raimond Gaita, author and academic
Rob Stary, lawyer
Lieutenant Colonel (ret) Lance Collins, Australian Intelligence Corps, writer
The Hon Alastair Nicholson AO RFD QC
Brian Walters SC, barrister
Professor Larissa Behrendt, academic
Emeritus Professor Stuart Rees, academic, Sydney Peace Foundation
Mary Kostakidis, Chair, Sydney Peace Foundation
Professor Wendy Bacon, journalist
Christos Tsiolkas, author
James Bradley, author and journalist
Julian Morrow, comedian and television producer
Louise Swinn, publisher
Helen Garner, novelist
Professor Dennis Altman, writer and academic
Dr Leslie Cannold, author, ethicist, commentator
John Birmingham, writer
Guy Rundle, writer
Alex Miller, writer
Sophie Cunningham, editor and author
Castan Centre for Human Rights Law
Professor Judith Brett, author and academic
Stephen Keim SC, President of Australian Lawyers for Human Rights
Phil Lynch, Executive Director, Human Rights Law Resource Centre
Sylvia Hale, MLC
Sophie Black, editor
David Ritter, lawyer and historian
Dr Scott Burchill, writer and academic
Dr Mark Davis, author and academic
Henry Rosenbloom, publisher
Ben Naparstek, editor
Chris Feik, editor
Louise Swinn, publisher
Stephen Warne, barrister
Dr John Dwyer QC
Hilary McPhee, writer, publisher
Joan Dwyer OAM
Greg Barns, barrister
James Button, journalist
Owen Richardson, critic
Michelle Griffin, editor
John Timlin, literary Agent & producer
Ann Cunningham, lawyer and publisher
Alison Croggon, author, critic
Daniel Keene, playwright
Dr Nick Shimmin, editor/writer
Bill O'Shea, lawyer, former President, Law Institute of Victoria
Dianne Otto, Professor of Law, Melbourne Law School
Professor Frank Hutchinson,Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies (CPACS), University of Sydney
Anthony Georgeff, editor
Max Gillies, actor
Shane Maloney, writer
Louis Armand, author and publisher
Jenna Price, academic and journalist
Tanja Kovac, National Cooordinator EMILY's List Australia
Dr Russell Grigg, academic
Dr Justin Clemens, writer and academic
Susan Morairty, Lawyer
David Hirsch, Barrister
Cr Anne O’Shea
Kathryn Crosby, Candidates Online
Dr Robert Sparrow, academic
Jennifer Mills, author
Foong Ling Kong, editor
Tim Norton, Online Campaigns Co-ordinator, Oxfam Australia
Elisabeth Wynhausen, writer
Ben Slade, Lawyer
Nikki Anderson, publisher
Dan Cass
Professor Diane Bell, author and academic
Dr Philipa Rothfield, academic
Gary Cazalet, academic
Dr David Coady, academic
Dr Matthew Sharpe, writer and academic
Dr Tamas Pataki, writer and academic
Miska Mandic
Associate Professor Jake Lynch, academic
Professor Simon During, academic
Michael Brull, writer
Dr Geoff Boucher, academic
Jacinda Woodhead, writer and editor
Dr Rjurik Davidson, writer and editor
Mic Looby, writer
Jane Gleeson-White, writer and editor
Alex Skutenko, editor
Associate Professor John Collins, academic
Professor Philip Pettit, academic
Dr Christopher Scanlon, writer and academic
Dr Lawrie Zion, journalist
Johannes Jakob, editor
Sunili Govinnage, lawyer
Michael Bates, lawyer
Bridget Maidment, editor
Bryce Ives, theatre director
Sarah Darmody, writer
Jill Sparrow, writer
Lyn Bender, psychologist
Meredith Rose, editor
Dr Ellie Rennie, President, Engage Media
Ryan Paine, editor
Simon Cooper, editor
Chris Haan, lawyer
Carmela Baranowska, journalist.
Clinton Ellicott, publisher
Dr Charles Richardson, writer and academic
Phillip Frazer, publisher
Geoff Lemon, journalist
Jaya Savige, poet and editor
Johannes Jakob, editor
Kate Bree Geyer; journalist
Chay-Ya Clancy, performer
Lisa Greenaway, editor, writer
Chris Kennett - screenwriter, journalist
Kasey Edwards, author
Dr. Janine Little, academic
Dr Andrew Milner, writer and academic
Patricia Cornelius, writer
Elisa Berg, publisher
Lily Keil, editor
Jenny Sinclair
Roselina Rose
Stephen Luntz
PM Newton
Bryan Cooke
Kristen Obaid
Ryan Haldane-Underwood
Patrick Gardner
Robert Sinnerbrink
Kathryn Millist
Anne Coombs
Karen Pickering
Sarah Mizrahi
Suzanne Ingleton
Jessica Crouch
Michael Ingleton
Matt Griffin
Jane Allen
Tom Curtis
John Connell
David Garland
Stuart Hall
Meredith Tucker-Evans
Phil Perkins
Alexandra Adsett
Tom Doig, editor
Beth Jackson
Peter Mattessi
Robert Sinnerbrink
Greg Black
Paul Ashton
Sigi Jottkandt
Kym Connell, lawyer
Silma Ihram
Nicole Papaleo, lawyer
Melissa Forbes
Matthew Ryan
Ben Gook
Daniel East
Bridget Ikin
Lisa O'Connell
Melissa Cranenburgh
John Bryson
Michael Farrell
Melissa Reeves
Dr Emma Cox
Michael Green
Margherita Tracanelli
David Carlin, writer
Bridget McDonnell
Geoff Page, writer
Rebecca Interdonato
Roxane Ludbrook-Ingleton
Stefan Caramia
Ash Plummer

Who signed an open letter to the Australian Prime minister http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/41914.html

And the people that offered to put up money when he was trying to get bail

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8187586/Julian-Assange-Jemima-Khan-comes-to-aid-of-Wikileaks-founder-in-Swedish-extradition-fight.html


Geoffrey Robertson QC, a prominent Australian human rights barrister who was a defending lawyer at the Brighton Bombing trial in the mid 1980s, has reportedly agreed to act for Mr Assange in future hearings.

I think the tide started to turn on the day all this went down, when Julian Assange voluntarily turned himself in, thus showing he was not running, just waiting for due process, and also demonstrating good faith and that he probably would not go on the run (he is not fickin stupid), yet he was refused bail. That single thing shows how corrupt this all is.

Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 08:36
I am so in awe of you Australians! What an example you are providing (if only the fascist media would report these things) of how a responsible engaged citizenry should react to injustice! And if the reports are true that 90% of the people polled are in support of J.A. - that certainly is in stark contrast to the spineless throw-the-treasonous-bastard-under-the-trolley perpetuated here in the good olde USA! People here have been so conditioned to the love-it-or-leave-it mentality that it is almost like the Pavolian Dog salivating!! GOOD FOR THE AUSTRALIANS!!

ponda
9th December 2010, 08:52
Yes it sure is heartening to see some influential people get their names on that letter.

It has taken a while but it seems that the masses are stirring.There have been some large protests recently against austerity measures in Italy,Portugal and i think the UK and Ireland as well.Things are starting to get interesting.

Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 08:54
If only people in the US understood that it is in their interests to get engaged - problem is everyone is literally being worked to death or they are sick or elderly

Anchor
9th December 2010, 09:51
If only people in the US understood that it is in their interests to get engaged - problem is everyone is literally being worked to death or they are sick or elderly

Don't give up hope. I certainly feel things are turning.

Ahkenaten
9th December 2010, 10:27
John I hope you are right. Sometimes I do get a little sad.