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Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 03:42

Its just been announced on the BBC referendum programme

LEAVE...52% .........REMAIN...48%..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

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I stayed up and watched the results coming in and Brexit has been leading , all
be it by a narrow margin from the first results. Scotland and central London
voted to stay in the EU, But most of the rest of the country went for Brexit...

Finacial Times.....

https://ig.ft.com/sites/elections/2016/uk/eu-referendum/

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THE TELEGRAPH....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-most-likely-outcome-says-leadi/

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EU referendum: Scotland votes Remain as UK on course to vote Leave

36 minutes ago
From the section Scotland politics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

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THE TELEGRAPH....

Leave or remain? Live EU referendum results and maps

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

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* UPDATES *...From # 68 & # 69

WE DID IT!! But this is just the start - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast trailer

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

WE DID IT!! But this is just the start - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast trailer
All David's Books Now Available Here http://www.DavidIckeStore.com

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Brexit: David Cameron resigns as UK votes to leave - BBC News

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*UPDATE* from # 82

Brexit does not make UK 'less European' - Boris Johnson

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Boris Johnson said the vote to leave the EU gives Britons a 'glorious opportunity'
to take control over own taxes and borders. All UK politicians 'should thank British
people' who 'did their job' dealing with one of the toughest questions of all time.

'It was a noble idea for its time; it is no longer right for this country' Johnson said of the EU.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 03:52

Nigal Farage never one to shy away from saying what he feels speaking before
the official announcement , speculating on how the results were coming in and
the prediction of a Brexit victory....

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

Farage Predicts 'Independence Day'
Nigel Farage has suggested he believes the UK has voted to leave the EU.
Nigel Farage believes the votes cast so far now suggest the UK is about to declare its very own "independence day".

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* UPDATE * ...From...# 74

'EU is failing, EU is dying': Nigel Farage speech following Brexit vote

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

The leader of the Independence Party (UKIP), Nigel Farage, has called for
June 23 to go down in history as 'Independence Day', adding that it's a
“victory for ordinary, decent people, a victory against the big merchant banks.”

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 04:11

initial reaction.....

If the U.K. Votes Leave to EU, What Happens Next?

Bloomberg

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

June 22 -- The U.K. is about to vote on whether to leave the EU. If it does, here's what to expect once the dust settles.

Like this video? Subscribe to Bloomberg on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/Bloomberg?sub_...

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HOLD FOR RELEASE: Brexit passes: U.K. votes to leave the EU
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USA TODAY

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

The historic Brexit referendum passed, meaning Great Britain will leave the European Union.
Find out what this means for the country and the global economy.

Mike Gorman

24th June 2016, 04:13

Wind

24th June 2016, 04:39

Seems like for once justice has won, what a surprise.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 04:40

Empire strikes back.......Though this should only be a blip , if our politicians respect
the decision and knuckle down to the will of the people. Leaving will not happen
overnight and this is only the beginning of long discussions of how the divorce
settlement will be drawn up.

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Pound tumbles to lows not seen since 1985

6 minutes ago
From the section Business

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/26A9/production/_90079890_etx.capital.jpg
Traders have been working through the night

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36611512

raff

24th June 2016, 04:45

Yes but what was shocking was how close the margin was and how effective and nefarious the remain campaign was on the public. I'm glad for brexit but for what it's worth to vote for one set of distasteful tyrants over another seems relatively irrelevant (i could of have used harsher language there but Mr B. Ryan would not have approved, ahem! ;) )

WildOrchid

24th June 2016, 04:58

Fantastic, this is the start of the fightback - the people are aware they were being disrespected, being manipulated and being disregarded-this has backfired on the globalist scum, victory for the people!

Go Britain! :muscle::thumbsup:
On your way, onward and upward, reinvent and make it GREAT again!:sun:
http://i.cbc.ca/1.3647900.1466697298!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/u-k-brexit-vote.jpg

bluestflame

24th June 2016, 05:02

just remember the elite have alternative plans

Sean

24th June 2016, 05:05

Good for you Britain-if the EU falls, the planned North American Union might not even get off the ground.

You guys hit evil HARD today. Nice one.

Billy Vasiliadis

24th June 2016, 05:14

I'll be honest in saying that I have no idea what this decision really means for the people of Britain or the EU, or for the rest of the world for that matter. Politics has never made much sense to me and this latest saga is no different. It seems like you've got some 'not so nice' people on both sides of the debate. I see that some are cheering this as a victory, and I hope that is the case, but I remain dubious. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out though.

sandy

24th June 2016, 05:16

Go Brits Go.....stay on it, put your noses to the grind and keep making those changes that bring the power back to the people!! :whoo::cheers:

WildOrchid

24th June 2016, 05:29

GOOD MORNING GREAT BRITAIN!
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p.s. did not create this myself, found it online.

sigma6

24th June 2016, 05:35

uzn

24th June 2016, 05:38

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The first one to leave the sinking Ship. :bigsmile:
Next best Thing would be if Germany leaves, that would be the final Nail in Europes coffin.

Heyoka_11

24th June 2016, 05:39

Hah...well done. I'd be staying indoors for a week or two :behindsofa:
Onya ya pommie mongrels!

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 05:47

I don't understand what Scotland and Ireland were thinking??? why would they want to remain?...

Its complicated......LOL

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J K tweeted this earlier.....

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Longjohn

24th June 2016, 05:57

Eric J (Viking)

24th June 2016, 06:04

The NWO have taken a bashing...a clear message from the people... we will not put up with the controllers anymore...some huge changes...yes the markets will be volatile, but it will settle.

Viking

Daozen

24th June 2016, 06:19

Thanks to whoever helped us secure this positive timeline. Your assistance is appreciated down here.

Longjohn

24th June 2016, 06:20

The NWO have taken a bashing...a clear message from the people... we will not put up with the controllers anymore...some huge changes...yes the markets will be volatile, but it will settle.

Viking

The British people are so unused to having referendums. In Switzerland they have about 30 of these a year. The Brits did not really understand the consequences of their choices, but were led like sheep by ambitious politicians, namely Messrs. Farage, Johnson and Gove.

You talk of snubbing the 'New World Order', but aren't we rather playing into their hands by creating chaos and uncertainty? Remember the old saying, 'Divide and Rule'...

John

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 06:22

From my own point of view, I'm an engineer working in Switzerland,

Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU

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Published on 16 Jun 2016

Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 06:31

Well Davids happy.....

Yeeeeees!! The People Speak Unto Corruption, Arrogance And
Power - historic EU victory for freedom against all the odds

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT

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RT NEWS.....

‘Leave’ wins: UK votes in historic Brexit referendum Live updates

Published time: 22 Jun, 2016 09:20
Edited time: 24 Jun, 2016 05:10

‘Leave’ wins: UK votes in historic Brexit referendum (Live Updates)

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT Activism, Political Manipulation

‘The world awakens to the shock news that Britain has voted to ‘Leave’ the European Union.

Watch RT’s LIVE coverage of the #Brexit poll results and reaction’

Read more: ‘Leave’ wins: UK votes in historic Brexit referendum (Live Updates)

https://www.rt.com/uk/347713-eu-referendum-leave-remain/

Longjohn

24th June 2016, 06:39

raff

24th June 2016, 06:52

Heyoka_11 well thank you old chap and all I can say to your charming comment is rip snorter.

Longjohn

24th June 2016, 06:56

Well Davids happy....."

I'm not against David Icke at all, and I've come to admire him, but it doesn't always mean he's right. If what he says is true, are you prepared to live thru' the fallout, and watch the ordinary people suffer?

Too many people are prepared to sit by and observe chaos in the world and assure themselves that it's really OK, so long as they are safe and sound somewhere else. We convince ourselves that the greatest good will prevail for the greatest number. But supposing you were that ordinary man in the street?

Are you safe and well-protected?

BR, John

David Trd1

24th June 2016, 07:18

Frankly, this has made my day.

In Actuality, this is a massive breakthrough.

But in saying that, if there is some financial pain coming in the west which all the indications looking like there is within 6 months, this could certainly have been something that will be used as one of the main destabilizing factors. Its time now for the aware people of the UK to stand up and make sure this vote is held to.

Too often have the pop of europe not been listened too. Twice in Ireland for example have we voted against changes to our constitution via European treaty ratification with a referendum. We voted No , they absolutely scare the insides out of the population and a year later have another referendum and it gets passed. Lets hope there is backbone to the side who have just won. The Establishment is going to come out all gunsd blazing on this one you can be sure.

Did You See Them

24th June 2016, 08:07

I'm happy to Brexit - although the consequences are yet to be seen and felt. Yes I can see the EU wanting to punish us ( LOL ! ) but stiffer upper lip and two fingers to them - GB - Well be back !
Sad that over 50% would rather vote for an uncertain future than remain with what we had and where it was taking us - that is the telling point !

KiwiElf

24th June 2016, 08:28

Cameron has resigned! He's about to make a televised statement.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-resigns-resignation-brexit-eu-referendum-result-live-latest-prime-minister-general-a7099936.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11662922

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-wins-as-britain-votes-to-leave/

araucaria

24th June 2016, 08:30

Brexit has produced a highly volatile situation. Much will depend on how other European countries react. In France no referendum will be held, partly because it would play into the hands of the far right, which is definitely not the way to go, and partly because there is an upcoming presidential election. The problem then will be, like elsewhere, finding the quality personnel to take the country and Europe forward.
Here is a nuanced response from European deputy Daniel Cohn-Bendit (semi-machine translation):
- On LCI, Daniel Cohn-Bendit said he was "furious". "I thought some rationality would kick in. There are more private jets arriving in England than refugees. This is our fault! This Europe had to transform. Europe does not protect us because we are not building Europe. Merkel had a humane response to what was happening. Negotiating the exit will not be easy. Europeans will only get out of this situation if they redefine the European project. I want to get Europe moving, evolving towards a social Europe that protects us. Europe has become one of the key issues of the presidential campaign in France. I do not want this Europe of nations that leads to barbarism. I told François Holland: "you move with Angela Merkel, for Europe!"
http://www.lemonde.fr/referendum-sur-le-brexit/live/2016/06/23/en-direct-jour-de-vote-sur-le-brexit-au-royaume-uni_4956691_4872498.html

WhiteLove

24th June 2016, 08:31

I am closely following the current situation on the markets. I have been expecting that the outcome of the Brexit vote is going to be what is going to set the direction for the markets from here - and I still think that. I had been speculating that maybe the Brexit pre-vote period was a move by the elites to create fear on the markets in order to get great price points, make them take position at those price points and that the outcome would be that UK would stay in the EU which would have calmed the markets and caused a rally from those price points.

But, there are a number of ways the elites can play the markets and prior to a vote like this you could only speculate about the outcome, although the margin was little I was speculating in the wrong direction this time.

It's hilarious how every single big people vote out there, like the U.S. presidential vote is turning out like close to 50% 50% and flips to one side a little at the end. I can't help but wonder if every rigged vote is like that...

Anyway. On this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91398-A-look-at-the-markets-on-June-18-2016) last Saturday I wrote:

"On May 27 2016 we had the highest trading volume in Gold in over a year. Traders were not active because they found Gold unattractive at the price 1213.80, it was the opposite - traders were jumping into Gold at an attractive price. At the same time the Dollar started to strengthen. This I think is going to be the hallmark of the way the markets are going to behave coming up - the price of Gold will likely keep rising for quite some time until the Gold has reached such levels when investors want to cash in on those profits."

This is not less likely with the outcome of the UK leaving the EU. For quite some time I have found it likely that investors are going to lower their allocations into Oil and move into Gold, that's coming true.

It's interesting to see how the various currencies react by the UK leave EU vote result. The British Pound has currently lost -7,5% of its value relative to the Japanese Yen. What all of this does though, is that it shakes the markets. What I find is key is how the Shanghai Stock Exchange reacts by all of this. Will it now do a new dip and when so what kind of dip is that?! Will that dip sync negatively such that at the worst possible moment the Gold enters a sell point too while the Oil is still up at high price levels due to the latest Oil rally? If that happens in the middle of a currency turbulence, it's the perfect storm. That could become quite dramatic.

Heyoka_11

24th June 2016, 08:32

...well thank you old chap and all I can say to your charming comment is rip snorter.

I say raff, I do so enjoy a good ol' ripping yarn with a jolly finale. None of that foreign muck eh what!

Good show!

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Sérénité

24th June 2016, 08:41

Well I'm pleasantly shocked with that outcome! :eek:

As ever they will find ways to use our majority vote against us, the imminent aftermath wont be pretty...but I think its a small price to pay in the long run. I'd rather take the hit of rubbing salt in a wound than getting an infection thereafter.

The most concerning thing I'm witnessing so far is the divide and conquer aspect...everywhere from social media to school gates, the discussion temperatures are at boiling point. Its quite ironic that the reason we either opted to leave or opted to remain was due to wanting to unite in some way and stand strong together for our children's futures...and use our peoples democracy to vote for what we honestly felt best for all...yet they're all arguing why their decision is the only valid decision.

52% of us may have got the outcome we wished for but its only made the other 48% resent us...where's the positive in that :facepalm:

Eagle Eye

24th June 2016, 08:54

Too many events in a short time, was this part of the plan ?

War on Syria, migrant crysis, EU to accept huge flow of migrants, British referendum resulted in EU exit, a PM that resign so fast ?!

Whats next ?

Sunny-side-up

24th June 2016, 08:55

Yes great change point for the world here I think.

This for us in England is our start of the hard years 2016-2017 as predicted.

I hope we get a humain new government to take us forwards though O.0

I and my wife have no financial or physical resources to fall back upon, I have been long term ill and on benefits, so me and the wife are totally at the mercy of the tides just like the driftwood on a beach o.0

But having said that I do think this is a positive part/step forward of the Awakening-World.

Calz

24th June 2016, 09:03

Great job Brits!

You have taken a brave step for humanity.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/europe/eu-referendum-live-blog/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzCn7abSaOc

KiwiElf

24th June 2016, 09:24

Billy

24th June 2016, 10:02

Great news that we voted to leave. I stayed up all night. The dawn of a new way forward has just began. :dancing: :Music: :heart:

Agape

24th June 2016, 10:46

I think there always will be the two options , trends, whatever you name it , common worldwide, the insiders - 'free local patriots point of view' and 'free worlds traveller' point of view .
Local patriotism is acquired , in some cases even forced on the young generations from the human 'elders' because it seems to represent better security ,
simpler orientation and decisioning process , secures 'the basics' , the land .

The 'world citizen' or even 'universal citizen' viewpoint , whichever you hold is equally valid ,
we do feel naturally responsible for others because they're living beings like us , not because their nationality and we do feel responsible for the planet we all live on , it's one planet .

The myth of 'evil NWO' and 'liberation from oppressors' is also very real and could come to more reality but it's just a trend so far , a threat that won't happen readily .

I may be wrong but somehow, I don't think this all really matters . What matters is in the hearts and minds of the young and 20 years later those will be navigating the 'spaceship earth' forwards who understand it,
the interconnectedness of the ecosystem , the climate , the motion of tides and tectonic plates , the roots of our history ,
the deeper unity and purpose .

Britain's great past changed all human history, so did the past of other European nations. Everyone was once ( at least ) great and owned half of the Earths colonies .
Now you're getting bit nervous because no one ever really sorted the post-colonial situation and people who grew your coffee beans are fighting wars and most - to be true- want your equal rights and living standards .

France was once 'great', Germany was once 'great', Russia was once 'great', the Japan and China were once 'the great' and so and so forth.

The problem is that those greats never went down without building on someones else shoulders and defeating the opponents in wars .

It's not what the normal peaceful, world citizen wants to happen .

See here from another pot : http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36610027

A popular Russian paper said that a governmental working group was meeting up to discuss the national technological development programme. The programme envisages, among other things, that by 2035 Russia will develop its own programming language, secure communications systems and… teleportation.

The 'fight' against so called globalism goes on and on now for decades which isn't conducted by those super-rich who can afford to live on their own island and own everything with their own trade mark ,

it mostly comes from people who do not get the opportunity to travel, to expand personally, to feel home anywhere else than on their carefully fenced plot .

Being alone and independent , YES. It just costs money and sometimes, lives at the end .

I'll vote for UNICEF :):heart:

norman

24th June 2016, 10:53

It'll be a rocky 5 years or so, but worth it in the end.

WhiteLove

24th June 2016, 11:02

norman

24th June 2016, 11:08

I think the euro is diving faster than the pound. Have you got figures for that too.

Xanth

24th June 2016, 11:10

Really pleased and surprised that Brexit was allowed to happen.
Volatility has a natural place in rebalancing, being free from slavery under an unelected European super state feels great.
GB didn't need to be part of the EU when it ran a 1/4 of the planet - so people have just to believe in themselves again.

WhiteLove

24th June 2016, 11:13

I think the euro is diving faster than the pound. Have you got figures for that too.

It's milder, EURUSD ~-2%. I would say by a weakness ratio of 2:3 on the GBP. (being weaker)

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Really pleased and surprised that Brexit was allowed to happen.
Volatility has a natural place in rebalancing, being free from slavery under an unelected European super state feels great.
GB didn't need to be part of the EU when it ran a 1/4 of the planet - so people have just to believe in themselves again.

Yep. I was also thinking that maybe the only reason EU was created by the elites, was to have a bubble to burst in the future. Because what we are seeing now is that normal people in Europe and especially in the UK are automatically getting more poor over night, while the advanced power houses have covered themselves on stuff like Gold and become more rich from this.

araucaria

24th June 2016, 11:18

Any Yes-No vote is going to be divisive, as many if not most people are going to find themselves siding with others they would never vote for directly. It would be silly to see the vote as a plebiscite for the Conservative party on the basis that those against Cameron are with Boris Johnson. It would be equally silly to see half the nation as racist simply because the racists all voted Leave.
Conversely, many (most) Scots voted Remain for the same reason that northern England and other regions voted Leave. It was the same anti-Westminster vote, the difference being that in Scotland it was a tactical vote to leverage a second Scottish independence referendum. What this means is that the UK-wide Leave Westminster vote was much more emphatic than the Leave EU vote per se. It also means that the vote is not nearly as divisive as it seems when seen as a sample of what is happening all over, namely that viewed from the grassroots, national governments are top-down organizations helping their own elite. While to date the EU has been serving that agenda, it is nonetheless seen by many as potentially a most useful instrument to serve the grassroots majority. In the meantime, leaving the EU for the UK means sorting out Westminster: if nothing changes there, then nothing changes at all. And that means dealing with Boris Johnson and his ilk as well.

The only politician who seems to have understood these intricacies is Jeremy Corbyn. He has run a low-key campaign in favour of Remain while allowing his party’s constituency in the country to vote Leave. This is not incompetence or duplicity, it is his way of diverting the debate from Brussels and sorting out Westminster. If Brexit is going to play out successfully, as an example for others to follow, then I expect six months of a Boris Johnson premiership will be enough to lead to a general election that Corbyn ought to win.

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 11:20

Cameron has resigned! He's about to make a televised statement.
Resignation effective in October ... and he will leave the task of actually filing for separation from the EU (up to a two year process, according to the Lisbon treaty) to the next British government.

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 11:27

Wow, this is getting pretty interesting, GBPCNY is now down more than -5%, GBPUSD is down almost -8% and GBPJPY is down ~-8,5%. Technically the British Pound is in a crash course against the US Dollar right now. Technically it looks really really bad, I would use the word 'devastating' to describe this from a technical point of view!

Yes - this BRExit vote is triggering a market crash (and US Dollar rise).

Some more notes from the markets (from an hour ago now):

Daily Mirror "We're Out"; The Sun "See EU Later"
Gold up $80/oz, before a little fall back, on the news
Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) futures down 440 pts (2.48%)
S&P 500 futures down 3.39%
US Dollar up 2.3% and Euro down 1.3% on the Forex market
S&P 500 Volatility (VIX) up 37%
BRExit Leaves 52%; Remains 48%
Prime Minister David Cameron is to step down by October
... of course, a real exit doesn't occur until (up to) 2 years after the British Parliament decides to invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty (which won't begin until after a new Prime Minister replaces Cameron, in October or so)

In my present view, the EU was not created to become part of the One World Government, but rather was created to continue the destruction of nation states.

Now we are entering a time of world wide economic collapse, and BRExit is being used (by the nefarious Bastards in Power) as key trigger event, to be blamed for the collapse.

Xanth

24th June 2016, 11:32

Verdilac

24th June 2016, 11:38

Too often have the pop of europe not been listened too. Twice in Ireland for example have we voted against changes to our constitution via European treaty ratification with a referendum. We voted No , they absolutely scare the insides out of the population and a year later have another referendum and it gets passed. Lets hope there is backbone to the side who have just won. The Establishment is going to come out all guns blazing on this one you can be sure.

Worrying if this happens in the UK, it could be a reality considering the way the Scottish vote went, as they may try and make everybody do it all again.

The global agenda doesn't seem like to take NO for an answer as we saw in Ireland.

If there is another future vote It would show who are the real pushers, or if it was an exercise in reverse psychology that started quite a while ago with a view to break up England,Scotland, wales and Ireland.

norman

24th June 2016, 11:39

I hadn't seen Corbyn as a politician with a future. I saw him as the highly advertised ( using Blair ) figurehead to recapture the wide open left field after the last election, which was a huge threat to the Westminster pantomime.

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 11:56

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 12:06

Verdilac

24th June 2016, 12:08

In my present view, the EU was not created to become part of the One World Government, but rather was created to continue the destruction of nation states.

Now we are entering a time of world wide economic collapse, and BRExit is being used (by the nefarious Bastards in Power) as key trigger event, to be blamed for the collapse.

I'm with you on this Paul and it gives a very uneasy feeling to realise that this may be what is really happening in this situation.

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 12:15

Wolf Richter has a better summary (than mine, above) of the reaction of the global markets to the BRExit vote, at UK Pound Collapses, Nikkei, European Futures Crash, Oil Dives, Gold & Bonds Soar as Brits Choose “Leave” (http://wolfstreet.com/2016/06/24/asian-stocks-european-futures-crash-oil-dives-uk-pound-collapses-gold-soars-brits-vote-leave-brexit/)

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Based on an electorate of 46.5 million people, turnout at the referendum was 72.2%, a stunning figure by US standards. At 6:40 AM London time, the Leave vote wins with 51.9%, and the Remain vote loses with 48.2%.

As victory speeches of Leave campaigners ricochet across the UK and the world, it’s turning ugly for the financial markets.

The UK pound, as I’m writing this, plunged 10% against the dollar, now at $1.34!

Equity futures in Europe are getting creamed. The London FTSE futures and the German DAX futures are down about 9%. The euro falls 3.7% against the dollar.

The carnage instantly spread to Asia, particularly Japan. The Nikkei has crashed through the 15,000 level, and is now at 14,870 down a breathtaking 8.4%, which brings its year-to-date loss to over 25%! Companies that depend on exports are getting crushed.

Investors are seeking refuge in Japanese Government Bonds, which jumped, as yields dropped. The 10-year JGB yield fell to negative -0.19%, the lowest ever, and is still falling as I’m writing this. The 20-year yield is hanging on to a positive number by its fingernails, now at 0.15%, and the 30-year yield isn’t far behind at 0.16%. At this rate, they’ll all be negative soon. The yen soars 4% against the dollar.

Hong Kong’s Hang Seng is down 5%. In China, a concerted effort is underway to keep stocks from spiraling out of control. The Shanghai composite almost hit the heavily defended 2,800 level after the mid-day break, down over 2%, but then bounced off and is currently down only 1.4%. The Indian Sensex, at mid-morning trading, is down 3.5%.

And what happened to the magnificent oil rally? WTI keeps skittering lower every time I look, now at $46.86, down 6.4%.

But gold spiked 6% to $1,338, but now appears to have second thoughts.

In the US, equity futures are turning uglier by the minute. The S&P 500 futures and Nasdaq futures are both down 4.7%. This is going to be a rough open for stocks. But Treasuries skyrocket, with the 10-year yield plunging to 1.44%!
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P.S. -- Zerohedge has an update: European Stocks Crash Most In History (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/european-stocks-crash-most-history):

Euro Stoxx 50 Futures have collapsed over 11% at the open... the biggest single-day crash in Rhhistory...

norman

24th June 2016, 12:33

The beeb has just interviewed a EU spokesperson who is hinting that the divorce negotiations will be very LONG and complicated and the British people may well be very unhappy with the final deal.

There's little doubt in my mind that they are going to play hard for a second referendum, with guns drawn.

Carmody

24th June 2016, 12:54

Mike "Mish" Shedlock is writing in his latest column Key Brexit Question: Is Cameron the Biggest Liar in History? (https://mishtalk.com/2016/06/24/key-brexit-question-is-cameron-the-biggest-liar-in-history/) that David Cameron had promised to honor the BRExit vote ... which Mish takes to mean that Cameron had promised to act, himself, on getting the 2 year exit process started to leave the EU. Now Cameron isn't doing that, but rather saying he'll leave 10 Downing St in October, and leave any such EU exit up to the next government. Mish is calling Cameron a liar, on this account.

I am wondering if any Brits reading this remember (or even better, have links) to such pronouncements by Cameron, that he would himself honor the result of this BRExit vote ?

(In answer to Mish's headline question "Is Cameron the Biggest Liar in History?", I must protest. As a proud Yankee, I am sure I can find some US Presidents and Presidential Wanna-Be's who are at least as big liars as Cameron <grin>.)

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P.S. -- Zerohedge has reposted Mish's article, at Key Brexit Question: Is Cameron The Biggest Liar In History? (Zerohedge) (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-24/key-brexit-question-cameron-biggest-liar-history)

Cameron won't leave now, as he needs the time until October to quietly set up the agenda and motions of he people and groups who put him in power.

It's like finding out that Tony Blair is molesting children, finding him guilty, but leaving him in charge of the day care center and extended day care corporation with 100 other offices.....for the next four months regardless.

Just so he can, in the dark and still in charge of the entire apparatus.... still do as he pleases ....and set up new and continued games for his pedophile friends who trade images, videos, and children, back and forth.

As for the stocks and finances, that's just shock gaming (trading software/hardware) and grabs of cash being pulled out of the system, just like a diode bridge pulls current and voltage from an AC signal. Seriously.

The numbers appear to have stabilized as being almost exactly as they were beforehand, but the funds and value were pulled from the system and moved into various coffers.

Almost exactly like a diode bridge would do to an AC voltage signal. This sort of trading scenario really needs to be banned, as it robs value from systems.. into parasitical systems, systems that were designed from the ground up ---to be parasites. Parasitical accumulators of wealth.

Agape

24th June 2016, 12:55

There are still options . Scotland's first minister has said a second independence referendum is "highly likely" after the UK voted to leave the EU. (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36621030)

The close proximity in pro- and con- votes and overall result also shows that people are divided in their opinion.
The time to make the US feel responsible for the great 'freedom of opinion' vote ( just joking, Paul ).
But it's also true . We all feel more free now than ever .

It's just that most of these European democracies ( including the farsighted British ) were not built on the idea of tolerating strong polar opposites within one space .
If your living space is limited you have to choose whom you let in and so forth which is the very reason why the GB is leaving now .
They could have well preferred to stay if the EU does not impose joint laws and sanctions on everyone 'in'.

Now by that referendum I think, people have realised they have the power to decide about themselves and that kind of power may also start spreading like a wildfire .

It's an important decision , in my opinion and if you can't get at least 75% people to agree on a course of action , 51 to 49 is weak .
I wonder how this is enough to pass for 'ultimate decision' . It means no matter how qualified and justified you feel in your opinion there's at least half of the 'majority' who think the same of theirs ( qualified opinion ) in totally different perspective.

Of course the EU is not working really well for any of us except few and it was built as an experimental model, blog to maintain balance with other worlds 'super-powers'.

Sadly enough, it's just a name for something that should be natural without the billions poured to the EU infrastructures itself and that is being part of one continent and one world and more unions we create , more structure and security to the larger ecosystem it supposedly creates

ISIS calls for attacks in Berlin and Brussels to 'paralyse' Europe in wake of Brexit chaos (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/isis-calls-attacks-berlin-brussels-8273022)

It's the same 'cheer politicians' who get people into something like this that later get them out , no matter the cost .

But .. I want to believe Billy that this all means new beginnings for all of us because it probably does .

:cocktail:

Mark (Star Mariner)

24th June 2016, 12:56

This was a vote not just to leave the EU, but it was a vote for freedom. But now interesting times await. As others have suggested, this could lead to a clamour for referendums across Europe. It really could spell the ultimate demise of the EU - particularly if other nations follow the UKs example.

But also, as others have suggested, none of this could possibly occur without some sort of contingency plan by the globalist elite. They will have contingencies for every scenario, and I'm sure they've gamed this out to the Nth degree, from now into the far future. I wonder what their plans will be?

keep the faith, but time to buckle up I think...

meat suit

24th June 2016, 12:59

Mark (Star Mariner)

24th June 2016, 13:07

Here's a little reminder of how the EU (the Common Market as it was originally) was sold to us in the early 60's. (The UK eventually joined in 1975).

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Isn't that quaint... All rainbows and butterflies and lollipops.

What It Came To Be... Although I am not a supporter of Farage for his many 'ideals', on Europe I feel he has it right. Here's a reminder of his famous speech at the European parliament in 2010.

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Carmody

24th June 2016, 13:11

Dear Guys,

Don't kid yourselves. Britain will now be the economic victim of its ill-informed parochialism. It did not vote to leave the EU on the grounds of sensible, well presented arguments. The 'Leave' campaign nailed its colours onto an anti-immigration, pro-sovereignty bandwagon. Both sides were guilty of negative campaigning, but at least the 'Remain' campaign warned people of the economic consequences of such a drastic change. If the Germans decided to leave the EU, then they would survive because they have a strong economy and the world needs its goods. The British economy is hopelessly weak, burdened with deficit and was only kept going by the positive perception of the financial markets.

Once the 'Leavers' get over their silly triumphalism, the party will turn sour and they will slowly realise the damage that this move will wreak on Britain's status in the world, its economy, their people's wealth, pensions and their own children's future.

From my own point of view, I'm an engineer working in Switzerland, but I have family in the UK. I see nothing but harm to young people's opportunities, Britain's educational institutions, its R&D base, its ability to attract investment, and for its people to believe that they are part of one world.

Britain will now retreat into its past glories...

With regrets,

John

I think you are exactly right....

except for the glaring fact that the pound was so high, due to being a financial instrument, that anything produced in the UK, any hard goods, were so expensive that people could not afford to buy those goods, outside of the UK. It has been seriously hurting the UK manufacturing base.

To the point that the vast majority of UK goods manufacturing moved offshore, and the brand names were the only part still in the UK. This also happened in the USA, Canada, and Europe, overall.

The west was transformed into a welfare service economy that was heavily infiltrated by paper shuffling corporations and appendages that bled even that value from their remaining 'empty dance' paper shuffling economy.

A country cannot survive on it's core aspect being of a bureaucracy, which is what happened in the case of the old USSR, and places like North Korea.

When one gifts the fundamentals to the rest of the world ....and all that is left in a particular region... is paper shuffling.... and when that financial world system is in the hands of transnationals, you get "global country making and breaking" in the hands of people whom you don't even recognize as even existing.

We, in the worldwide sense.... MUST get this "financial system running rampant and applying a wrecking ball to the world" scenario, we must remove it's teeth and claws, as it is a brutal wrecking ball under the control of people who are in the dark and hidden.

Brexit is a symptom, not a fundamental cause, not a fundamental reality in cause of condition.

It's the sad reality of chasing a cure, and leaving the origin point in existence.... and never going after the disease or origin point.

Germany, on the other hand... KEPT it's manufacturing base, as they were wise and understood what is going on. They decoupled their electrical power grid, the source of the blood of any manufacturing base..they rebuilt their power grid into something that is not easily broken or taken down.

On the other side of the pond, the USA has worked hard to get it's greasy hands into Canada, in order to make sure it has a resource base, if and when any collapse occurs. In case of emergency, break glass (border) and eat Canada.

Canada has been held captive (never allowed to move forward or backward) in a very specific condition....via politics, corporations and financial instruments, just like Japan was held captive as a sweat shop for the past 70 years.

Gaia

24th June 2016, 13:36

After the end of WWII, and after the people of the UK unfairly threw out Winston churchill, he was invited to come to the US to address a joint session of congress. Among other things he suggested was an "Alliance of English Speaking Peoples"...Both militarily and economically. The economic proposal was not unlike the EU but it allowed nations to retain their currencies, immigration laws, etc. The nations involved would have been the US, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and India. Considering the relative strength of these economies in the world today it would have been a good move. Maybe its not too late...???...The idea still has merit!

WhiteLove

24th June 2016, 13:38

Right now - mega banks are crashing hard:

Lloyds Banking Group PLC (ADR)(NYSE:LYG)
-25,6%

Barclays PLC (ADR)(NYSE:BCS)
-25,4%

ThePythonicCow

24th June 2016, 13:39

In his latest update Globalist Agenda Watch 2016: Update 12 – The globalists begin their demolition of the EU (http://redefininggod.com/2016/06/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-12-the-globalists-begin-their-demolition-of-the-eu/), Ken over at RedefiningGod.com says that he called this BRExit vote (which he likely did ... I'm just too lazy to verify it).

Brandon Smith, one of the sharpest knives in the drawer, over at Alt-Market.com, also called this BRExit result, and summarizes where he thinks we are now in his latest post Brexit Vote Passes! Here's How Alt-Market Called It When No One Else Did (http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2932-brexit-vote-passes-heres-how-alt-market-called-it-when-no-one-else-did).

Brandon figures that ultimately fundamentals determine the market, and that the BRExit vote was a convenient opportunity for the globalists to crash the markets, on their time frame, rather than wait for the crash to happen on its own terms and timing.

Brandon was paying more attention to how the elite were investing, such as Soros going "risk off", shifting some money out of the stock markets into gold funds and gold mining shares. He also noted that the IMF and BIS have been warning "that a global economic downturn is on the way in 2016", just as they did in 2007, leading up to the 2008 crash. He also interpreted Yellen's excuse for not raising rates earlier this month, blaming her inaction on the upcoming BRExit vote, as further evidence of a likely BRExit vote to "Leave".

Hervé

24th June 2016, 14:06

Five Minutes of Common Sense: Whose Victory is Brexit? (http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/06/five-minutes-of-common-sense-whose.html)

June 24, 2016 -
Ruslan Ostashko, PolitRussia - (http://politrussia.com/world/pyatiminutka-zdravogo-smysla-938/)
Translated by J. Arnoldski

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Something has happened which was believed to be impossible not only among political analysts, but also among famous British bookmakers. Great Britain has voted to leave the European Union. Today is one of those rare occasions on which I can completely agree with the opinion of the former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. McFaul wrote on his twitter: “Not always, but tonight is a giant victory for Putin’s foreign policy objectives. Give him credit.”

Amazingly enough, McFaul has behaved wiser than most Russian political analysts and journalists who raced to explain that there are no serious consequences to this referendum and that the political elite of Great Britain will just ignore the result, liming everything to meaningless negotiations with Brussels. This is nonsense. But this nonsense is based on the strong belief that the referendum’s result does not suit the British elite and was possible only thanks to a nationwide mobilization of normal voters.

This theory is not tenable for several reasons:

First of all, any political strategist can tell you that a gap of 3% is an inkblot which can easily be fixed using the most primitive post-scripts and political techniques on election day. This means that at least part of the British elite was interested in Brexit going through. This is why the problem of the referendum was not allowed to be solved using the UK’s conventional methods of postscripts and rigging.

Secondly, small and medium-sized businesses, as well as some major British companies and even sponsors of the British conservatives, agitated for exiting the European Union. The media campaign in support of Brexit included influential British media, including the most popular British tabloids. Do you really think that they did this according to their heart and not on the order of their management and owners? And the owners of influential British media - are they not part of the British elite?

As it turns out, the referendum on the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union is a result of a split in the British political and economic establishment. The winners in this struggle are not necessarily the ordinary voters from the rural and industrial areas of the United Kingdom, but quite specific media magnates, politicians, and businessmen. One would have to be very naive to believe that these influential citizens who invested billions of pounds in the referendum's victory would quietly be deprived of the results of this so expensive victory.

The British politicians and oligarchs who won the referendum are not interested in fighting with the German and French elites for control of the European Union for the sake of Washington’s interests. There is much more profit for them and they are much more interested in playing their own independent game while remaining above the geopolitical fray and playing the role of the geopolitical and economic “shift”, the intermediaries and puppeteers.

It is no wonder that McFaul speaks of Putin’s victory in the referendum. Without Great Britain, the team of American “mongrels” within the EU has been left without a leader, and now the EU can become less controllable for Washington, while Berlin and Paris’ influence will only intensify. For us, this is great news. A Europe without the British means that we will have a much better chance to negotiate while the Germans will simply roll out the asphalt over the protesting Russophobes from Poland and the Baltic states.

I want to note that there is also good news for our southern neighbor in this situation. Ukraine now has a real chance to get into the European Union by 2020 - by then only Poland and Estonia will remain. This, of course, is a joke. But the parade of sovereignties which might begin in the near future in the EU is not a joke, but a harsh reality. Demands to hold referendums on leaving the EU have already been heard in France and Holland. And this is only the beginning.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 14:22

Dear Cidersomerset,

I know about Switzerland's withdrawal, but that's hardly a counter argument. It can withdraw from a position of relative strength. It was never part of the EU, and negotiated its own agreements with them. This is not a drastic change for Switzerland, as Brexit will unfortunately be for Britain. Britain has changed the status quo, which is always disruptive. We have no idea whether this will be for good or ill.

Perhaps you can tell me how Brexit will be of benefit to Britain if it suffers an economic and financial crash? Do you really think Britain has the foresight and imagination to create a new paradigm for itself? It hasn't done very well in the last 30 years. Where is the knight in shining armour to lead us to the new Albion?

Best regards,

John

Sorry for delay I just got up after staying up all night had to get some kip ..LOL

I know it will not be easy as has been discussed in the many debates leading
up to this. But the negative attitude of the remain side and the scare tactics
and other factors come into play. This is only the start and yes it could backfire
but I think its a great opportunity to change track. TPTB will still manipulate
the outcome and influence the coming events and decisions and there will be
winners and losers as there is now , which is why the majority of the demographic
of the country voted out imo. Central London ,Scotland , Northern Ireland
and some inner cities voted to stay for various reasons.

I am not a 'little englander' as I am half Italian on my fathers side who fought
in North Africa in WW11 so I have always been interested in history , politics
and how the EU was set up after WW11. But it was always a project of
federalisation.There are many 'federal' governments already in the EU Switzerland ,
Germany ,Spain , Italy ,France as well as the UK and others are made up of smaller
states,dukedoms and duchies , so imo we are putting the brakes on the
modern 'Roman Empire' and its early days to see what will happen.....

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At the beginning of the debate I was open minded and did not make up
my mind until after the main debates , but I did vote out in the end
for many reasons and David and others have pointed them out for
decades. Most people seemed to agree that if we were not already
in the EU we would not apply to join . Not everyone will share this
sentiment I know , and although in part this was slap in the face to
the establishment. They are still in control. I just seen David Cameron
has resigned ......

Brexit: David Cameron to quit after UK votes to leave EU

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36615028

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91111-David-Icke-On-The-Eve-Of-World-Speaking-Tour-Explains-Why-Britain-MUST-Leave-The-EU&p=1072577#post1072577

I should say I have not made up my mind whether to stay in or vote for Brexit,
I am still listening to the arguments from both sides and will make my decision
accordingly. So although this thread will probably favour the exit view by David,
I encourage everyone ( UK ) to come to their own conclusions and use the info here
as only part of your decision and do listen to both sides of the argument.....

The two main protagonists Boris Johnson and David Cameron both Etonian
Bullingdon club establishment figures tells me it does not matter which way
the vote goes as they have covered both bases. But as the NWO agenda involves
greater control TPTB would rather we stayed in the current status quo. In position
to be carried along with the rest of Europe as their plans unfold.....

Two political rivals ? or a political stitch up ?

( former Mayor )
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Hervé

24th June 2016, 14:31

Brexit Referendum Is Non-Binding. UK Parliament Not Voters has Final Say (http://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-referendum-is-non-binding-uk-parliament-not-voter-has-final-say/5532485)

By Stephen Lendman (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/stephen-lendman)
Global Research, June 23, 2016

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All the fuss and bother about Brexit largely ignores its non-binding status – parliament, not voters deciding if Britain stays or leaves the EU, the latter extremely unlikely.

Writing in the Financial Times (https://next.ft.com/content/5b82031e-1056-31e1-8e0e-4e91774e27f1), British lawyer David Allen Green explained Brexit voting is “advisory,” not “mandatory.” Parliament has final say.

MPs can legally disregard the public’s will either way, they alone empowered to decide the path Britain chooses.

What happens ahead is “a matter of politics not law. It will come down to what is politically expedient and practicable,” said Green.

Various options exist, including supporting Thursday’s outcome, ignoring it, or “re-negotiating another deal and put(ting) that to another referendum” – repeating the process “until voters eventually vote the ‘right’ way,” what’s best for monied interests, not them.

Invoking Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is another matter entirely, legally binding, unlike Thursday’s vote. It states as follows:

“1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union.

That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.” Green highlighted key points. Member states can choose how to vote on withdrawal – by referendum, parliament or other means.

The withdrawal process begins with formal notification. Once “given, the member state and the EU are stuck with it.”

Member states wishing to withdraw have up to two years maximum to complete the process “unless this period is extended by unanimous agreement.”

Once withdrawal intentions are announced and initiated, there’s no going back. At the same time, what’s “created by international agreement can be undone” the same way.

Brussels could “come up with some muddling fudge which holds off the two year deadline,” or a new treaty amendment could be adopted.

Politics alone will drive what happens ahead, not the will of the people. Britain is no more democratic than America – nor are any other EU countries.

Special interests decide things. Whatever they want they get. However voting turns out, government policy “is to remain in the EU,” said Green.

Leaving would require Prime Minister David Cameron invoking Article 50, unlikely given his vocal opposition to Brexit.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 14:40

Brexit: David Cameron to quit after UK votes to leave EU

1 hour ago

From the section EU Referendum

Published on 24 Jun 2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36615028

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Prime Minister David Cameron is to step down by October after the UK voted to
leave the European Union. Mr Cameron made the announcement in a statement
outside Downing Street after the final result was announced. He said he would
attempt to "steady the ship" over the coming weeks and months but that
"fresh leadership" was needed.

The PM had urged the country to vote Remain, warning of economic and security
consequences of an exit, but the UK voted to Leave by 52% to 48%.

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Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 14:49

WE DID IT!! But this is just the start - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast trailer

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

WE DID IT!! But this is just the start - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast trailer
All David's Books Now Available Here http://www.DavidIckeStore.com

Hervé

24th June 2016, 14:51

Brexit Referendum Is Non-Binding. UK Parliament Not Voters has Final Say (http://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-referendum-is-non-binding-uk-parliament-not-voter-has-final-say/5532485)
[...]
All the fuss and bother about Brexit largely ignores its non-binding status – parliament, not voters decid[es] if Britain stays or leaves the EU, the latter extremely unlikely.
[...]
Leaving would require Prime Minister David Cameron invoking Article 50, unlikely given his vocal opposition to Brexit.
[...]

Because of the above, one may now be able to understand why the following has happened:

Five Minutes of Common Sense: Whose Victory is Brexit? (http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/06/five-minutes-of-common-sense-whose.html)
[...]
... The media campaign in support of Brexit included influential British media, including the most popular British tabloids. Do you really think that they did this according to their heart and not on the order of their management and owners? And the owners of influential British media - are they not part of the British elite?
[...]

... I suppose that gave the British population some needed emotional release to prevent them from turning the Tower of London into some sort of Bastille...

Deega

24th June 2016, 15:02

Great moment in time!, a pleasing historical event that may give rise to Nationalistic fervor across Europe and probably elsewhere, a blow to a New World Order probably, at least, it's rejoicing!

But as everyone are aware, there are undercurrents in this, who's profiting? Some medias were bias for Brexit, what does it portends? Sure, this new reality will bring disturbances in the markets, will annihilate the flow of migrants probably. And with this new Nationalistic force that is Britain now will change the US/Britain/Euro/Russia relations, hopefully for the better. At least, it may bring Russia back to front stage.

We're in a new world, hopefully for the better!, Cameroun will be out by October, unfortunately, he will have the time to wrenched the new deal.

raff

24th June 2016, 15:06

Lancet

24th June 2016, 15:19

Well this is probably one of the biggest false flags in Britain of the 21st century ( the other Princess Di's death), using the entire population's free will against each other.
I sincerely hope that there will an awakening of some sorts by the masses when they realise how they have been played by the ptpb. However Nothing is for certain and everything is to play for. We can still win this .

JT

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 15:21

'EU is failing, EU is dying': Nigel Farage speech following Brexit vote

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT

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Published on 23 Jun 2016

The leader of the Independence Party (UKIP), Nigel Farage, has called for
June 23 to go down in history as 'Independence Day', adding that it's a
“victory for ordinary, decent people, a victory against the big merchant banks.”

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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Scotland should ‘never leave EU’ - calls for new independence vote grow

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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‘Leading Scottish politicians are calling for another referendum on independence from the
UK after Britain voted to exit the EU. The Scottish public backed staying in the bloc and
former SNP leader Alex Salmond says Scotland should “never leave the EU.”

Salmond made the comments during an interview with Sky News: “The sensible thing for
Scotland to do would never be to leave the European Union,” he said.

His comments were backed by the current leader of the SNP, Scottish First Minister Nicola
Sturgeon, who is also backing a second independence vote, after 62 percent of the
population voted to remain in Europe. This was against the tide of the rest of the UK
where 52 percent voted to leave the bloc.’

Read more: Scotland should ‘never leave EU’ – calls for new independence vote grow

https://www.rt.com/uk/348160-scotland-brexit-uk-independence/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Italy, Holland, France and Denmark call for EU referendums after Brexit vote

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT

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Juncker Tells UK to 'Get Out As Soon As Possible' - we don't need telling, mate

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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download (8)After an emergency meeting of EU leaders Jean Claude Juncker has said that
the EU wants to negotiate Britain’s exit “as soon as possible however regrettable the decision might be

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683042/EU-referendum-Brexit-Britain-leaves

Agape

24th June 2016, 15:25

WE DID IT!! But this is just the start - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast trailer

You always did it . It's like .. the power game is going on and on and spiralling upwards and onwards .

I love Britain, would love to live there if I had a chance , would put my nose up and think 'sod them'. Been with Barry for too many years till now not to get this right .
And , having lived in India for more than a decade I have also many English friends out there who each have their minds .
'Typical mentality' of any sort was never my favourite thing to adhere to , nevertheless , it tends to be human mentality after all and something to do with the food and habits of each peoples ancestors and how to rant the worst .

David also looks like quite a smart , cynical political leader to me .. till now . And although I'm quite sure he is fighting for his 'right cause' I also know what the rest of the 'Ashtar command' ( under different names ) want and cause all around .

You did it in 1938 Munich when most of the Czech Republic was leased to Hitler by our allies ( the UK and France in particular ) and not only it did not help you or prevent the WWII ,
it continued changing the face history. As a direct result of those decisions we were then taken to the 'custody' of Soviets after the war and the Java conference and were never allowed full economic and social recovery ,
as meagre members of the hated 'Eastern blog' .

I wanted to believe .. that the history won't repeat itself . And it's not like I'm saying some one country are responsible and others not but that's it .
If you only want to be responsible for yourself , sooner or later you then realise it was 'false flag event'.

That there were bigger things going on .

It's no news , this is lasting for very long now and made me step down from the great credo that 'truth shall win'.

There's no 'subtle truth' that is winning , it's the game of the powerful going on n on.

Sorry about that :raining:

Eram

24th June 2016, 15:27

The Brexit Vote - What Does it Mean?
Written by Paul Craig Roberts

What does it mean?

Hopefully, a breakup of the EU and NATO and, thereby, the avoidance of World War III.

The EU and NATO are evil institutions. These two institutions are mechanisms created by Washington in order to destroy the sovereignty of European peoples. These two institutions give Washington control over the Western world and serve both as cover and enabler of Washington’s aggression. Without the EU and NATO, Washington could not force Europe and the UK into conflict with Russia, and Washington could not have destroyed seven Muslim countries in 15 years without being isolated as a hated war criminal government, no member of whom could have travelled abroad without being arrested and put on trial.

Clearly, the presstitute media lied about the polls in order to discourage the leave vote. But it did not work. The British people have always been the font of liberty. It was the the historic achievements of the British that transformed law into a shield of the people from a weapon in the hands of the state and gave accountable government to the world. The British, or a majority of them, understood that the EU is a dictatorial governing mechanism in which power is in the hands of unaccountable people and in which law can easily be used as a weapon in the hands of unaccountable government.

Washington, in an effort to save its power over Europe, launched a campaign, willingly joined by presstitutes and the brainwashed left-wing, who flocked to the One Percent’s banner, that presented the effort to preserve British liberty and sovereignty as racism. This dishonest campaign shows beyond all doubt that Washington and its media whores have no regard whatsoever for liberty and the sovereignty of peoples. Washington regards every assertion of democratic rule as a barrier to its hegemony and demonizes every democratic impulse. Reformist leaders in Latin America are constantly overthrown by Washington, and Washington asserts that only Washington and its terrorist allies have the right to choose the government of Syria, just as Washington chose the government of Ukraine.

The British people, or a majority of them, gave Washington the bird. But the fight is not over. Perhaps it hasn’t really yet begun. Here is what the British can likely expect: The Federal Reserve, European Central Bank, Bank of Japan, and George Soros will conspire to attack the British pound, driving it down and terrorizing the British economy. We will see who is the strongest: the will of the British people or the will of the CIA, the One Percent, and the EU and neocon nazis.

The coming attack on the British economy is the reason that leave supporters such as Boris Johnson are mistaken in their belief that there is “no need for haste” in exiting the EU. The longer it takes for the British to escape from the authoritarian EU, the longer Washington and the EU can inflict punishment on the British people for voting to leave and the more time the presstitutes will have to convince the British people that their vote was a mistake. As the vote is nonbinding, a cowardly and cowed Parliament could reject the vote.

Cameron should step down immediately, not months from now in October. The new British government should tell the EU that the British people’s decision is implemented now, not in two years and that all political and legal relationships terminated as of the vote. Otherwise, in two years the British will be so beat down by punishments and propaganda that their vote will be overturned.

The British government should immediately announce the termination of its participation in Washington’s sanctions on Russia and hook its economy to the rising nations of Russia, China, India, and Iran. With this support, the British can survive the Washington led attack on their economy.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 15:57

The UK will still be in NATO , Five Eyes and ties with the US go very deep
after all most of the US Presidents have been related to the British crown....

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Though most of us are related if you go back far enough....LOL

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The Schulz Brexit breakdown - Defeat for Obama, opportunity for Trump

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Ed Schultz from RT America talks about US reaction to Brexit vote result. US have
'too much at stake... too much history' with UK to break their 'special relationship'.
Brexit means political defeat for Obama who invested so much in TTIP - sole reason
US wanted UK to stay in EU.

Trump, being 'very timid, very reserved' in his reaction, sees it as a 'clean slate', an
opportunity for new trade deal with UK.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

chancy

24th June 2016, 15:59

Mark (Star Mariner)

24th June 2016, 16:01

... They are still in control. I just seen David Cameron has resigned ......

I do wonder if he actually did "resign". Usually when the corporate ship goes astray, or worse starts to sink, the CEO simply gets fired by a board of directors. The PM (or any premier) is just a CEO, nothing but a spokesperson/administrator of, and for, the corporate, economic, and military agenda - which is all determined not by any visible democratic process, but behind the scenes. By a board of directors. Or 'the hidden hand'.

I doubt leaving the EU will please the hidden hand in all of this. Someone has to pay.

So, resigned, or pushed? I do wonder...

WildOrchid

24th June 2016, 16:17

just remember the elite have alternative plans

They always do, but that does not mean they will "always" win!

WildOrchid

24th June 2016, 16:24

I don't understand what Scotland and Ireland were thinking??? why would they want to remain?... they have been crying for their freedom and independence since the beginning of time... and here they want to give up their sovereignty to a board of EU directors?... o.O? Who got to them?... did their leadership sell out in some way?

I think they just want to go the opposite of Britain. If Britain had decided to remain, the Scots/Irish probably wanted out. Many Scots are rebels at heart and sooner or later they will realize that their slave masters in Brussels do not have their best interests at heart

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 16:24

Brexit does not make UK 'less European' - Boris Johnson

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Boris Johnson said the vote to leave the EU gives Britons a 'glorious opportunity'
to take control over own taxes and borders. All UK politicians 'should thank British
people' who 'did their job' dealing with one of the toughest questions of all time.

'It was a noble idea for its time; it is no longer right for this country' Johnson said of the EU.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 16:31

Daily Express: Euro migrant crisis an 'inside job' planned to bring about EU super state, says David Icke

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT Media and Appearances

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British author David Icke discusses key world events and the Australian government's move to
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David Icke has claimed that the US and NATO sponsored wars in the Middle East
have been taking place, amongst other objectives, to create a wave of migrants
into the EU to gain support for the creation of an EU superstate.

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Euro migrant crisis an 'inside job' planned to bring about EU super state, says David Icke

MIGRANTS have been allowed to come into Europe as part of a plan to gain support for
the creation of an EU superstate, an arch conspiracy theorist has sensationally claimed.

By Jon Austin
PUBLISHED: 19:35, Thu, Jun 23, 2016 | UPDATED: 20:36, Thu, Jun 23, 2016

David Icke has claimed that the US and NATO sponsored wars in the Middle East
have been taking place, amongst other objectives, to create a wave of migrants
into the EU to gain support for the creation of an EU superstate.

Read more: Daily Express: Euro migrant crisis an ‘inside job’ planned to bring about EU super state, says David Icke

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/682849/Euro-migrant-crisis-an-inside-job-planned-to-bring-about-EU-super-state-says-David-Icke

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Published on 4 Sep 2015
The Migrant Crisis Was Planned A Long Time Ago: David Icke
6th September Videocast - The David Icke Videocast: The Migrant Crisis -
All Planned A Long Time Ago - Watch the full video at http://www.davidicke.com

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 16:55

Remember we live on many levels......Don't get bogged down on one !!

WEARECHANGE.org 22/6/16 ....David Icke - Truth About Consciousness and Spirituality

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91502-WEARECHANGE.org-22-6-16-....David-Icke-Truth-About-Consciousness-and-Spirituality&p=1077008#post1077008

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David Icke - Creating Your Reality

By David on 24 June 2016 GMT

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Published on 25 Dec 2014

http://www.davidicke.com
Music - Candle In The Night / Wie Eine Kerze In Der Nacht - Gregor Daniel
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9ic...

Sophia, Orion & the ‘Lion of God’
June 23, 2016/ Neil@ancienteyes8/Uncategorized

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http://neilhague.com/index.php/2016/06/23/sophia-orion-the-lion-of-god/

WhiteLove

24th June 2016, 17:01

Right now: Nasdaq is going for -4%

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 17:20

Trump says Brexit good for UK population in long term....and if he gets voted
President the UK won't be at the back of the queue as President Obama suggested,
but at the front.......' Go Trumpy ' ...LOL as we know the elites have all bases
covered and this is only "Good Pres' " " Bad Pres' "

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Visiting his Scotland golf course following the UK’s vote to leave the EU,
presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump said that Brexit meant the
people “want to be able to have a country again.”

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Donald Trump in Scotland: 'Brexit a great thing'
4 hours ago

Donald Trump says the UK vote to leave the EU is "a good thing" as he lands in Scotland

US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has said it is a "great thing" that the people
of the UK have "taken back their country" in voting to leave the EU.

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read more....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

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No one wants to support weak economies - Putin on Brexit

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Published on 24 Jun 2016
President Vladimir Putin says ‘Brexit’ is the choice made by the British nation and is
a comprehensible one, as “no one wants to feed weak economies.” Russia has not
and does not plan to interfere with the results of the referendum, he added.

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What the #Brexit vote means for US: RT America special report

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Streamed live 17 hours ago

RT America's Ed Schultz reports from London on the UK's referendum to leave the
European Union. The outcome of the vote will impact many international trade
agreements.

Find RT America in your area: http://rt.com/where-to-watch/
Or watch us online: http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

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British Exit Spells Doom For World Government Project

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Alex congratulates the people of the United Kingdom for throwing off the shackles
of the globalists and making their break for freedom from the oppressive EU
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Akasha

24th June 2016, 17:36

norman

24th June 2016, 18:17

EU leaders call for UK to leave as soon as possible : the Guardian

Elmar Brok, who chairs the European parliament’s committee on foreign affairs, told the Guardian the parliament would call on Juncker to strip the British commissioner, Jonathan Hill, of the financial services brief with immediate effect and turn him into a “commissioner without portfolio”.
He said: “They will have to negotiate from the position of a third country, not as a member state. If Britain wants to have a similar status to Switzerland and Norway, then it will also have to pay into EU structural funds like those countries do. The British public will find out what that means.”

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greybeard

24th June 2016, 18:20

My predictions in light of yesterday (for what it’s worth):

- Scotland will get its independance after having it stolen by vote fraud in 2014 and then rejoin the EU

- Northern Ireland will merge with the Republic of Ireland (and therefore rejoin the EU)

- the pound will bottom out after 3 months or so, rebound and end up at least 120% of its pre-BRexit value

Of course this could all be wishful thinking - time will tell.

Akasha I think you have every chance of being right.
Nicola Sturgeon is very trusted and popular here.
Alex Salmond was very wise,astute, to hand the S.N.P reins over to Nicola.

Chris

Matthew

24th June 2016, 18:47

Systems rarely reform. The UK is split on nationalism more shakedowns coming. The best chance England has for reform is if Scotland leaves the UK. The UK leaving the EU is a chance for Europe to review its project. The split of opinion between England and London is more obvious in the referendum results.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 18:58

- Northern Ireland will merge with the Republic of Ireland (and therefore
rejoin the EU)

This is unlikely though may kick off some sort of political discord , that possibly
could ignite old animosity between republican and loyalist factions....

Scotland will get its independance after having it stolen by vote fraud in
2014 and then rejoin the EU

I think there will be another referendum , the trouble is with the Scots once
they have not got the Sassanachs ( Saxons) to blame they will go back to
squabbling amongst themselves...LOL

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A couple of stereotypic classic sketches , strong language.....

Billy Connolly - Terrorist Attack At Glasgow Airport, Must Watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gMJBQoHJ4E

Robin Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9oKdUFCoVo

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'Here's the twist' - Patrick Young shares optimism about UK economy

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Patrick Young, expert in global financial markets, explain to RT his optimistic regard
on future of British economy. Being filled with foreign investments during last years,
Britain now has a 'wonderfully cheap' export. Plus, UK can 'sail free' with some sort
of Norwegian model, 'without having to listen demigods of the bureaucracy in Bruxelles
who cannot understand the needs of the people'.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

onawah

24th June 2016, 19:13

Boris Johnson hails 'glorious opportunity' of Brexit as David Cameron resigns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-live-david-cameron-resigns-as-uk-shocks-the-world/

Kate McCann, senior political correspondent Laura Hughes, political correspondent
24 JUNE 2016 • 8:04PM
Britain votes to leave the European Union
David Cameron resigns as Prime Minister
Who will be our next Prime Minister?
SNP threaten break-up of the UK
What happens now Brexit is a reality
Pound crashes to 1985 low as sterling falls below $1.35
EU referendum full results and live maps
Gaunt, haunted, immobile. Samantha Cameron stands strong

Boris Johnson launched an appeal for unity and attempted to draw a line under a bitterly divisive European Union referendum campaign hours after Britons voted to leave the EU.

The former London Mayor also said the UK had a "glorious opportunity" to re-establish itself on the world stage and “can find our voice in the world again”.

In a statesmanlike speech, flanked by Labour’s Gisela Stuart and the Conservatives’ Michael Gove, Mr Johnson said the result was a huge opportunity for the UK.Directly addressing the millions of voters who backed Remain, Mr Johnson insisted that the result did not represent a retreat into isolationism and that Britain would remain a “great European power”.

He said: “I want to speak to the millions of people who did not vote for this outcome especially young people who may feel that this decision in some way involves pulling up the drawbridge or any kind of isolationism. I think the very opposite is true.

“To those who may be anxious at home or abroad this does not mean that that he UK will be in anyway less united nor indeed does it mean that it will be any less European.”
He said: “We cannot turn our backs on Europe. We are part of Europe. Our children and grandchildren will continue to have a wonderful future as Europeans travelling to the continent, understanding the languages and cultures, that make up of common European civilisation.

“But there is simply no need in the 21st century to be part of a federal system of government based in Brussels that is imitated nowhere else on earth. It was a noble idea for its time but it is no longer right for this country.

“It is the essence of our case that young people in this country can look forward to a more secure and more prosperous future if we take back the democratic control that is the basis of our economic prosperity.”

An emotional Mr Cameron fought back the tears this morning as he announced his resignation.

Flanked by wife Samantha as he delivered an emotional statement outside Number 10, Mr Cameron said he accepted the decision of the electorate, which voted by 52 per cent to 48 per cent to leave the EU.

With a voice trembling with emotion, Mr Cameron announced he was standing down, before adding: "I will do everything I can in future to help this great country succeed."

"I think the country requires fresh leadership. I do not think I can be the captain to take the country to its next destination."

David Cameron's voice broke as he finished his speech, watched on by his wife Samantha.It followed a turbulent night with Remain campaigners quietly confident until the early hours when results from Newcastle and Sunderland showed better than expected returns for the Brexit camp.

A surprise victory for a Brexit in Swansea, which was expected to vote to Remain, did little to dampen concerns despite Scotland overwhelmingly backing staying in the Union.

Other votes in Wales began to show a trend towards a surprise Leave vote, particularly in deprived communities.

Big wins for David Cameron's campaign in London and Oxford did little to allay fears that early predictions had been wrong, as the pound began to tank - down by 6% by around 1pm.

Leave passed the finishing post just after 6am, as it became clear that nothing could swing the vote back in favour of the Remain campaign.

Nicola Sturgeon has thrown the future of the United Kingdom into doubt by saying a second independence referendum is “highly likely” in the next two-and-a-half years following UK’svote to leave the EU.The Scottish First Minister claimed in 2014, before Scotland voted to stay in the Union, that it was a once in a lifetime event, but claimed following the shock Brexit vote that it could happen again by the end of 2018, before the UK leaves Europe.

Northern Ireland’s Deputy First Minister Martin McGuiness has also called for a referendum on a united Ireland, after the UK voted to leave the European Union .

Meanwhile on the market, the FTSE 250 index has plunged a whopping 11.7pc. The index of so-called mid-cap companies had dropped an astonishing 2,017 points to 15,309 in the first few minutes of trading.

Carmody

24th June 2016, 19:51

Just remember some of the stories and quotes of yore:

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." ---Albert Pike

Not a perfect fit, but startlingly close. Maybe it can shape up and slip those clothes on a while from now. Who knows.....

As has been said, they are 'specific event sequence driven', and don't have specific timetables. It's all about the event having to occur.... before the next planned event occurs. That is the number one priority.

Why the hell that? Well, this post explains it perfectly. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91282-The-Mandela-Effect.-Is-this-CERN-Project-Pegasus-The-Montauk-Project-The-Philadelphia-Experiment&p=1074923&viewfull=1#post1074923)

When you find out why and the how....that...changes everything.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 20:07

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Stock markets tumble after Leave vote

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Business reporter

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From the section Business

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Ask Andy What happens to the pound after UK vote BBC News 2

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Published on 24 Jun 2016
The pound has plunged in the wake of the UK's decision to leave the EU.
The BBC's Andrew Verity explains the economic impact the changing value
of the pound can have.

Eric J (Viking)

24th June 2016, 20:33

Found this on my travels.. thought it was apt...

The Brexit vote is the greatest expression of the will from the long oppressed citizens who have been exploited by the European Union. This referendum is an example that the Globalist Establishment is ripe for a total overhaul. Individual nations need to re-establish their independent sovereignty and their people must become the beneficiaries of government and economic policies.

Populism restores the rightful authority back into the hands of ordinary citizens. The European Union is an invention of a Globalism oligarchy designed to eliminate opposition to their New World Order.

The vote to leave the EU is the most optimistic opportunity event in many decades. With the success of the Brits defiance, other European countries are emboldened to call for their own plebiscite.

Welcome and support such efforts to break the chains of international finance that has imposed and furthered the political tyranny that has engulfed humanity into a world-wide feudal serfdom.

The message is clear and rejoice is real. HALLELUJAH

Everyday People have declared war on the Globalist Establishment.

BREXIT is just the beginning.

The entire world needs to revolt and break the shackles of corporatist control.

The European Union must be broken apart and individual sovereignty of nations restored.

Elites can be defeated and when the public rise up and take back the ability to decide their future, the entire world will gain victory over the globalist cabal.

Celebrate the day, and relish in the satisfaction that the psyops and propaganda by the establishment elites did not work.

Do your best to spread the good news and encourage the rightful restoration of our own state rights sovereignty for our own country. America First is the solution and the only answer to make America Great Again.

James Hall

SARTRE

Carmody

24th June 2016, 20:43

bluestflame

24th June 2016, 20:44

Carmody

24th June 2016, 20:46

the vote was initiated under an elitist system...

They have plans on standby, now activated.....to get what they want .....no matter what way it goes.

bluestflame

24th June 2016, 20:51

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 20:57

Ken Livingstone is London 'centric' and is not happy with Brexit , so is coming
from the remain side ........

Brexit fallout may tear both UK and EU apart - Ken Livingstone

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

The UK vote to leave the European Union came as a shocking surprise to the British
establishment, with Prime Minister Cameron announcing he’ll step down from his
post. Meanwhile the UK decision is emboldening continental Euroskeptics to
demand similar referendums from their governments. How will London go about
parting ways with the EU? Who will reap the benefits of that decision – and are
there any to reap? Sophie Shevardnadze asks former mayor of London and Labour
party veteran Ken Livingstone.

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meat suit

24th June 2016, 20:58

The loss the world suffers is not that of a personal nature, it is the loss of corporate control of the world and how they have wired you to it. How they have wired your perception to it.

Like a drug dealer, one dealing in smoke and mirrors, they have wired your future to theirs, where they are in control of it. They speak of the royal we, not the you-we. Only to personalize their attempt of total control of you... so you don't see it. The drug dealer is your best friend!

Shedding yourself of parasites can be costly and difficult.

If the host is to survive, it must be done.

With the parasites and their cohorts screeching ....all the way down.... that you are killing everything.

No, you are only killing off the parasite.

yes, but consider that competing groups of different parasites also keep each other in check..
in the UK up to today you had the 1.government, 2. the house of lords, 3. the royalty, 4. the european union...

so maybe...like you lost the candida bacteria that help flush out heavy metals, you now lost the EU who helped implement sensible enviromental policies...

is the leave camp going to evict the unelected house of lords and royal family while they are at it?? so that only the 'elected government' can go unchallenged about what they really want???
just saying...

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 21:04

i still get the feeling we'r being (mis)lead , still a lot of people ( almost equal numbers )
NOT happy about the split , division being the elitists hallmark

One of the things I noticed on the mainstream debate shows like , News night,
Question time , Daily politics and others is basically apart from the hype and
scare tactics most of them when they settled down said there would not be
much difference to the majority of the population at the end of the day.
There would be winners and losers in the short term but the economy would
recover and adapt.

Now we know in the alternate community there are different agendas , as
do the mainstream but they cannot report on it for various reasons not
least that the elites own most of the media and corporate interests.

So this is being played out on several levels and we will see if the
people can take control or it will just be another assignment for the
adjustment bureau so to speak.....

The Adjustment Bureau - Controlling Free Will

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DropD

24th June 2016, 21:22

As a conscientious voter, I weighed up each side of the argument before crossing the box (in pencil) and finally went with the gut which was Brexit. This reFEARendum has been the litmus test of the mental state of the UK public. Scared of immigration or scared of restricted travel and free trade? Either way, fear crossed the boxes on every ballot paper (including mine) and there is a long road ahead before we determine who was right to be fearful and if we can influence other member states or be outcast. Short term pain, long term gain. Let's hope the miniscule void of David Cameron's own leave doesn't open the floodgates for Jeremy or Boris

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 21:40

Let's hope the miniscule void of David Cameron's own leave doesn't open the floodgates for Jeremy or Boris

I would personally like the 'real' Jeremy Corbyn to step up the one that knows
about TNWO order and corporate corruption etc , but has been compromised
to conform to the 'mainstream norm' when he became New Labour leader,
even be it unexpected and another example of ground roots support getting
one over on the political establishment . His position is precarious and
a vote of no confidence has been proposed by a couple 'Blairite stalwarts'...

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Labour MPs submit Corbyn no confidence motion

2 hours ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36621777

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Boris on the other hand has been the leader in waiting since
he retired as London Mayor. I expect he will become next
conservative leader unless there is some kickback from
the Tory grandees or disgruntled ministers....

I did a thread about Boris somewhere which I was going update
sometime. Boris was born in New York and is a citizen of both
countries . So a Boris and Donald show would be certainly be
surreal , and he may have a better claim to be a Presidential
nominee than Barack did...LOL

Imagine - Trump For President - Boris Johnson For PM
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Akasha

24th June 2016, 21:47

Fabian4Liberty (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCADUhVAbhc_p7R-zSrZt-Mg) (relax, it's his name, not secret affiliation) and Sargon of Akkad (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-yewGHQbNFpDrGM0diZOLA) give their two cents on the outcome (f-bomb alert in Sargon's commentary) :

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Akasha

24th June 2016, 21:55

.....a Boris and Donald show would be certainly be
cereal.....

What are we talking here? Oats? Barley? .......after all, nothing like a referendum to sort the wheat from the chaff..........or did you just mean surreal ;) ?

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 22:00

What are we talking here? Oats? Barley? .......after all, nothing like a referendum to sort the wheat from the chaff..........or did you just mean surreal ?

Well I think Boris and Donald both like sowing their oats ....LOL

Two prime candidates with plenty of skeletons in the closet
to be exploited by their political masters......

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1354109/Boris-Johnsons-amazing-love-pentagon-The-confusing-tangle-love-lives-Londons-mayor.html

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Mark (Star Mariner)

24th June 2016, 22:32

already started ?
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Petition
EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

That is...not good. That would be a blatant disregard of democracy - loose a vote, then petition for a do over! Talk about sour grapes! But consider this:

Perhaps a 2nd referendum was part of the so-called contingency plan all along? Not necessarily to overturn the vote, but to create a massive backlash. There is as I speak significant strife brewing across the country, friend versus friend, colleague versus colleague - in schools, colleges, workplaces, and pubs - even amongst family members. Maybe it will quickly blow over, or maybe this is just the start...

Do TPTB want to fan these flames further and have a complete social schism - have 'leavers' versus 'remainers' fighting in the street? Is it part of their plan to systematically unstitch the social fabric of the UK and have a repeat of the awful poll tax riots (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q) of the early nineties - this time worse and on a grander scale? A 2nd referendum would, I believe, create an outrage that might spark just that.

bettye198

24th June 2016, 22:45

Entertaining info from all the posts. Helps with some of the clarification since I am on the fringe of not understanding the British conundrum prior to the vote. Now that I have come to realize the peoples abject unhappiness, it makes sense to vote against NWO constraints.I would. But what will be the backlash and the future of the pound over there? I am hearing that those who are not naturalized citizens need visa's but wasn't that always the case if you lived or worked in UK? Someone here can respond to that question.

Here is my intuitive feel. I wonder about why the people were ALLOWED their day in the sunshine from a monarchy in rule? Is it a ploy to ease the disruption for a small while when a new agenda is about to pop? Why would anyone not think the vote was rigged for a future plan and it may not be to the peoples advantage at all? I shudder to think if this was an experiment.

Cidersomerset

24th June 2016, 23:38

David Icke Welcomes Historic Referendum Decision But Warns There's Still Work To Be Done

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norman

24th June 2016, 23:53

Things are only just getting going.

At least the brainwashed masses have been told they are NOT the base-line in this country.

I'm thrilled to bits about that, and the heartiness from people here I almost had given up on believing still existed, in big enough numbers.

Now the gloves come off. It'll be the most vicious divorce you've even heard of.

giovonni

24th June 2016, 23:53

Posted today ...

William Henry
10 hrs ago

Congratulations, England and UK. The Ascension of Avalon has begun.

Agape

25th June 2016, 00:12

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Now, I forgot what was the message .. :ROFL:

norman

25th June 2016, 00:21

I'm glad the crafty Scottish leadership has hastened their exit from the English electoral system. They are bloody dangerous to the rest of us who think a genuine vote is worth anything at all.

sigma6

25th June 2016, 03:32

Somehow I wasn't that surprised... (hindsight is 20/20) What if Brexit was setup?... a "soft 911"?... the demographic deflationary cycle I have been believing as inevitable for years now... has to express itself... one way or another... (all the while MSM Financial "News" completely denies it...) This is one way the system can avoid runs on the banks... by simply misleading everyone... with fake Financial News...) Just like 911 was a cover for a major "financial shift"... that happened in the market (correlation doesn't prove causation) What if the Brexit exit was another "public play" ... Britain was one of the first to join the Brick Bank... and there may be a functional need for Britain to operate "outside" the EU in the Global Financial scheme of things.. Something just tells me if the PTB wanted to stay in EU it would have... and no vote would have changed it... (just like I think the Scotland vote was a farce...) What are the odds that every vote comes out 50/50 all the time... We know this is the simple stupid algorithm for rigging voting machines... When was the last time anyone has seen any major vote to be something other then 50/50 (plus the tip to one side...) Perfect for masking the discontent of the majority (that should have won) And it makes the "working class" feel "empowered" satiating mass quantities of discontent building in many people's lives... Consider how Greece voted almost unanimously against austerity... you could hide the riots in the streets... the result... nothing, the austerity measures were already destined to be... regardless... (besides they didn't have the balls to quit the EU)...what if this is all just another 'dog and pony show'... a controlled "bubble pop"? to let some necessary bloat out of the market?... (as indicated by the epidemic of corporate buy backs...) Although gold did tip up... a rush to a safe haven expected reaction... but this is all reactionary... it should level out and even come back down again, if I am right...

Daozen

25th June 2016, 03:46

The conspiracy forums are retro-actively rewriting the script as we speak.

Barack Obama, the Li family, Janet Yellen and all the rest of them collectively came out against the Brexit. They didn't want the UK out. Now that the votes have been cast, conspiracy writers are asking themselves "what if it was the NWO plan all along, maybe they wanted the Brexit to happen?"- OK, it's a fair enough question, from sincere people (like Sigma6 above), but the conspiracy boards have a habit of believing everything is part of a grand NWO plan. Globalist propagandists are skilled at covering their mistakes: "Oh that? Oh, we meant that to happen. It's all part of the plan."

They are losing. Look into their eyes. Look how tired Merkel looks. Juncker is a drunk who slaps his colleagues.

Expect a raft of pseudo-essays over the next 2-6 months, about how the Brexit was "planned by the NWO".

ozmirage

25th June 2016, 04:01

A late comer to the fray, I looked for an answer to these questions:
[] Does membership in the EU :
__ help secure endowed rights to life, liberty and property ownership?
__ foster liberty and freedom?

Apparently not. EU is but another example of the "fourth branch" of mindless bureaucracy, making strict rules without regard for the consequences.

[Executive, Judicial, Legislative, being the other branches]

On the other hand, if you're a socialist or a usurer, the EU was heaven.

Carmody

25th June 2016, 04:44

Joseph Farrell's thoughts on the Brexit (http://gizadeathstar.com/2016/06/special-news-views-nefarium-june-25-2016-brexit-referendum/)

ThePythonicCow

25th June 2016, 06:10

Joseph Farrell's thoughts on the Brexit (http://gizadeathstar.com/2016/06/special-news-views-nefarium-june-25-2016-brexit-referendum/)
After describing this BRExit vote as about four things:

Rejection of the immigration of Islamic refugees who reject assimilation into their new host country.
A reassertion of national sovereignty (with an anecdote of even the Queen apparently being sympathetic to BRExit, and another anecdote of (the Rothschild's) The Economist magazine objecting to the Clinton/Bush calcification of American politics), and a rejection of the undemocratic Brussels' bureaucratic regulatory dictatorship,
Rejection of Mr Global's track record and his efforts to destroy national sovereignty (Mr Global's track record is abysmal, and some of the British elite are opposing this destruction
A rejection of NATO, their provoking Russia, and American uni-polarism.

Farrell then observes that in recent decades we've seen an aggressive attack on nationalism, which included the right of each nation to support its own particular cultural framework.

Joseph Farrell concludes by saying that Mr Global (which Farrell also terms the American deep state in this video) has just been served a handy defeat with this BRExit vote.

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In my view, it's layers, all the way down (as in the often told tale of "turtles all the way down" explaining what held the earth up.)

I am reminded of Farrell's own recent work on a third layer behind the 9/11 events, deeper than the American regime.

I was hoping, when I listened to Farrell's analysis of the BRExit vote just now that he would connect his previously conjectured "third layer" to this BRExit vote. Farrell didn't do this. He seems today to be listing as the major antagonists (1) the American Neocon/Bush/Clinton/Imperial state and (2) the pre-existing national interests of many nations, including in particular in this case Great Britain.

The key question in my mind is whether this BRExit vote is (1) a symptom of a resurgence of long standing national interests, as Farrell seems to be saying just now, or (2) a symptom of some deeper layer (such as the one Farrell speculated in his latest book underlay some of the 9/11 events) now deliberately encouraging increased conflict in yet another form, between national powers and American imperialism, as part of driving the world into great stress, in several ways at the same time, all as a prelude to further establishing their (the third layer) plans and furthering their control.

In other words ... I ask how deep does the conspiracy go? How deep is the rabbit hole?

Ellisa

25th June 2016, 06:28

It is not only the Islamic immigrants that are flooding into the UK, but people from the EU itself too. Many are from Eastern European countries, they are white and Christian, and, because they are members of the EU they are entitled to all the benefits of health, housing and concessions as are people born in the UK. The UK is very generous with such benefits, even more so than some other countries which had different standards for qualification for grants and allowances. So the citizens of the UK got a bit annoyed about it, and this BREXIT is a result. It is of course, not the only cause, but it is one which I feel is not being acknowledged outside the UK (or possibly inside too).

kirolak

25th June 2016, 07:09

Although I spent the better part of my life in the UK, I don't understand any politics - it's all a load of nonsense, in my view - the Big Enders vs the Little Enders (cf Gullivers' Travels).

On the one hand we seem to have a patriotic/ nationalistic, isolationist group who want to be "free" of the EU, (although many of these same people also maintain "we are all one" & "all is Love") & then on the other hand, we have the EU supporters, who want a united Europe?

I can only say, along with Manuel of Fawlty Towers, "I don't know, soy de Barcelona. . . !"(actually Valladolid, but who cares? :)

araucaria

25th June 2016, 07:45

David Cameron has resigned as a Remainer unable to implement a Leave agenda. Yesterday (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91509-UK-vote-to-leave-EU......&p=1076931&viewfull=1#post1076931)I suggested that Boris Johnson might not last long doing that either, even though he headed the Leave campaign. This Guardian article (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/a-pyrrhic-victory-boris-johnson-wakes-up-to-the-costs-of-brexit) indicates how this might unfold. Basically, Johnson sowed a wind and reaped a whirlwind. The disagreement with Cameron was merely a ploy to have all bases covered that backfired, leading to a killer ‘pyrrhic victory’.

In that case, Johnson is no more the man for the job than Cameron; which makes sense: how is an elitist ever going to implement the popular decision? This is why I suggested Corbyn. Corbyn’s stance is diametrically opposed: he too was ostensibly on the wrong side of the argument, but his quiet campaign was likely a sincere reflection of genuine indecision as to the better way to achieve EU reform: from within or without. This is the issue that has not been resolved: all that has happened is that a fork in the road has been passed, for better or worse. (Actually, it is like we are taking both paths: notice how the centripetal force of union is balanced by the centrifugal force of increasing nationalism; Scotland wants both independence and the EU [correction: Europe], and so probably do Catalonia, Corsica, Brittany, Ireland, Wales, northern England etc. etc.)

So Jeremy Corbyn can easily implement Brexit simply by applying the grassroots decision of his base. I don’t have a ready antonym for a pyrrhic victory, but it seems to me that Corbyn has won this debate with minimum effort. How this works is rather counter-intuitive, but here goes. It is indisputable that power has been transferred from e.g. Westminster to Brussels – whether to elected officials or to Eurocrats (European bureaucrats) is beside the point. From the standpoint of the nation, it means loss of sovereignty (again not the issue here). The issue here is that from the standpoint of the national politician, it means loss of power. Who would want to go through the motions of legislating in London only to be overridden by Brussels all the time? This means that Brexit ought to be the default position for any MP. After all, when a vote is taken on MPs getting a pay rise, the Ayes have it every time; they know how to look after themselves. Hence a prime minister campaigning to Remain with the energy that Cameron put into it was either shooting himself in the foot or hypocritically pretending to. He was pretending to be happy at being something of a lame duck. So he had to have a Johnson figure taking the intuitively correct line.

Corbyn’s nuanced stance on the other hand does something rather different. He doubtless thinks remaining in the EU is the preferable way, but defers to the electorate to make the choice they are being asked to make. This is like saying Yes, MPs do need extra pay, if only because hyperrich immigrants have made central London pretty unaffordable, but MPs are not the best people to make that award. Accepting Brexit without having openly campaigned in favour is like accepting a power/pay rise from the source of that power/pay, the sovereign/taxpaying people.

Summarizing, you have Conservatives on the losing side whether they voted to Remain or to Leave. To the extent that they wish to remain in the EU, that means that they are not their own men, they are happily subservient to whoever is giving them their orders. On the other hand, regardless of his recommendation, the Labour leader finds himself on the winning side with a mandate to exercise more power. Sure, he is in the same position as the others, not his own man, and happily subservient to whoever is giving him his orders. What changes everything though is where the orders are coming from: not from the elite above but from the huge majority below.

In other words, asking a sovereign people the question of who is in charge could really only elicit one response: We are! It was a fatal mistake for a top-down organization to ask a bottom-up question with every vote counting. Like waking the so-called ‘sheeple’... more like waving a red flag at a bull.

There is talk, as ever, that this too was planned. There is no way this was planned: that is the trap whereby in the very act of taking back your power you... give it away again. How did it happen? Hypocrisy, political correctness, respectability and left-brain thinking have reached such a pitch that none of the organizers expected the honest gut reaction of 34 million voters.

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 09:01

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‘The EU and NATO are evil institutions. These two institutions are mechanisms created by
Washington in order to destroy the sovereignty of European peoples. These two institutions
give Washington control over the Western world and serve both as cover and enabler of
Washington’s aggression. Without the EU and NATO, Washington could not force Europe
and the UK into conflict with Russia, and Washington could not have destroyed seven Muslim
countries in 15 years without being isolated as a hated war criminal government, no member
of whom could have travelled abroad without being arrested and put on trial.

Clearly, the presstitute media lied about the polls in order to discourage the leave vote. But it did not work.’

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Read more: The Brexit Vote. What Does it Mean?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-brexit-vote-what-does-it-mean-hopefully-a-breakup-of-the-eu-and-nato-the-avoidance-of-world-war-iii/5532646

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The Campaign To Undermine The Vote — Guest Column by Richie Allen

By David on 25 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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The Campaign To Undermind The Vote — Guest Column by Richie Allen

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The Campaign To Undermind The Vote
By Richie Allen, Radio Presenter, Manchester.

It’s been an amazing 24 hours, it really has. When the polls closed across the UK at
10PM last night, I was deflated. A YouGov poll suggested that Vote Remain would
carry the day by a margin of two to three points. Even UKIP’s Nigel Farage
conceded remain was likely to win. Boris Johnson, speaking to commuters on the
tube, as he made his way home, appeared despondent and pessimistic.

Nobody could have guessed that less than 24 hours later, the British political
landscape would have changed utterly and Prime Minister David Cameron would
resign on live television, having lost the referendum he called, only four months
ago. Leave carried the day, winning by a four point margin. The British people have
spoken. Well, the British people have screamed actually.

‘Cameron said in his farewell address, that is important that the will of the people
be accepted and that the British government should move quickly. He said that
article 50 of The Lisbon treaty, should be triggered ASAP.

That sounded good. Cameron had said while campaigning, that in the event Vote
Remain lost, there would be no delay in informing Brussels of the UK’s intention to
leave and to begin a period of negotiation over the UK’s future relationship with the
union. That’s what he said then and that’s what he said today.

But I am worried. This afternoon, former mayor of London Boris Johnson and
current justice secretary Michael Gove, the leading lights in the Vote Leave team,
said there was no rush to invoke article 50. “There is no need for haste,” Johnson
said. “As the Prime Minister has just said, nothing will change over the short term
except that work will have to begin on how to give effect to the will of the people
and to extricate this country from the supranational system.”’

Read more: The Campaign To Undermine The Vote — Guest Column by Richie Allen

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/24/the-campaign-to-undermind-the-vote-guest-column-by-richie-allen/

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They are not even subtle: Discredited Elite 'ratings' agency Moody's downgrades UK
to 'negative' after EU result. My current rating for Moody's remains unchanged -
still filed under 'bollocks'

By David on 25 June 2016 GMT Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation The Money Scam

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The EU vote result is such a shock to the Elite that they will do anything to frighten
the public into reversing the result. Stay strong.

Read more: They are not even subtle: Discredited Elite ‘ratings’ agency Moody’s
downgrades UK to ‘negative’ after EU result. My current rating for Moody’s remains
unchanged – still filed under ‘bollocks’

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EU referendum: Moody's cut UK's credit outlook to 'negative'
33 minutes ago
From the section EU Referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36626201

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RT NEWS....

Over 850,000 sign petition calling for UK to hold 2nd referendum about leaving EU

Published time: 24 Jun, 2016 14:38

Edited time: 25 Jun, 2016 08:26

The prospect of being outside of the European Union is too much for some of the 16
million UK residents who wanted their country to ‘remain’. They have set up a
parliamentary petition calling for a second referendum, which crashed due to its
popularity.

Despite being set up hours after the result, the petition has already reached its goal
of over 100,000 signatures. This means that it must be considered for debate
within parliament within a year.

The petition has been signed by more than 525,000 Brits. Traffic to the site was so
intense that it crashed temporarily.’

Read more: 500,000 sign petition calling for second EU vote. Democracy = what THEY want

https://www.rt.com/uk/348228-petition-parliament-uk-brexit/

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 09:14

CrossTalk BREXIT: GOAL! (Recorded 24 June)

RT News...

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

Well it has happened! Citizens of the UK have decided to call it quits. The decades
long debate whether to remain part of the Europe Union has been settled. Brexit is
a reality. What’s next? CrossTalking with Xavier Moreau, John Laughland, and Alexander Mercouris.
FACEBOOK: Like CrossTalk on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/crosstalkrules/

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Financial Outlook: Market, currency questions rise after Brexit

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Published on 24 Jun 2016

On the markets, the pound went into freefall, reaching a record 30-year low. At one
point it plunged by more than 11%. Panic also gripped the world's financial markets
over uncertainty about what the Brexit will actually mean. European and U.S.
futures tumbled as Asian stocks dropped by their biggest level in almost five years.
European stocks plummeted as trading began and oil prices also went spiraling
downwards. RT is joined by Max Keiser, Host of The Keiser Report and Edward
Harrison from Boom Bust

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Violet

25th June 2016, 09:16

Perhaps the reversal is automated already in people's denial of the authenticity of the win.

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 09:57

Make no mistake Boris is very much part of the elites and
would have the blessing of TPTB if he does become PM.

Watch for the buying time scam - it's already started

By David on 25 June 2016 GMT

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Osborne - Borris - Cameron ......
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media and political mind control has been going on for a long time....

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Hervé

25th June 2016, 14:10

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 14:18

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Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit

1 hour ago

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Foreign ministers from the EU's six founding nations met in Berlin

EU states have urged Britain to hold speedy talks on leaving the
bloc after it voted to end its membership in a historic referendum.

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said negotiations
should begin as "soon as possible".

read more....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36626409

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Sturgeon pledges to 'protect' Scottish EU interests

1 hour ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629331

Carmody

25th June 2016, 14:20

i still get the feeling we'r being (mis)lead , still a lot of people ( almost equal numbers ) NOT happy about the split , division being the elitists hallmark

in a state of vulnerability, finding a new direction , must be wary of the tendency to seek another figure head , repackaged , renamed , exceptionally well marketed , but worse

Like the dog who finally catches the bus, the first thing to emerge at that point, with bus bumper in teeth, is "what now?"

To march forward in the face of the pain and confusion it takes to remove parasites from the body, is the trick.

Stay on target, keep focus.

The politicians, bureaucrats, elites, and corporate heads... are upset and looking stern and confused.... as the public has kicked their (politicians, elites,etc) feed trough across the cement barn floor, upset it... and mixed the bits with sh!t and piss... that they themselves created.

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 14:30

Agape

25th June 2016, 14:51

Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
Brexit Referendum Is Non-Binding. UK Parliament Not Voters has Final Say
[...]
All the fuss and bother about Brexit largely ignores its non-binding status – parliament, not voters decid[es] if Britain stays or leaves the EU, the latter extremely unlikely.
[...]
Leaving would require Prime Minister David Cameron invoking Article 50, unlikely given his vocal opposition to Brexit.

No , technically parliament can delay and even try to scare the public into another referendum.
There is already a petition by over a million people for another one. I don't think they will
have much choice as President Junckers and the other committed EU ministers are afraid
of the domino effect and want us out ASAP.......

Million sign petition for new EU referendum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629324

EU referendum: UK's EU commissioner Lord Hill to resign
13 minutes ago
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629646

Of course and they should grant the British public decent time for consideration and present them with the status quod - facts and economic rundown of what the 'leave' and 'remain' options mean and offer .

It's not a small decision and many people are basing their current opinions on 'good faith'.

The EU commissioners rhetorics on 'leave fast' is very stupid in my opinion , disrespectful , that should not be allowed to happen .
This was just a referendum ( as Herve said ) , it may mean leaving the EU or not but does not represent the final decision.

Mark (Star Mariner)

25th June 2016, 15:21

Hervé

25th June 2016, 15:43

[...]
No , technically parliament can delay and even try to scare the public into another referendum.
[...]

Cameron leaves it to the next government to take it up after October... time aplenty to weave a thick carpet to shove it under and the majority of people to forget about it...

On another hand, as Jon Rappoport wrote (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/06/24/brexit-and-goals-and-ops-of-the-deep-state/) :

Coda: warning: the BBC is reporting that the British Parliament must ratify the referendum result. And the UK withdrawal from the EU will take place “within two years.” It’s a withdrawal negotiated between the British government and the EU. So various conditions and side-deals could be slipped into the equation.

Carmody

25th June 2016, 16:08

Junckers, the head of the Euro group, basically a German currency basket system held by Germany, wants the UK out and in the streets, beaten down, as an example to others who might decide to leave.

He wants the UK shown to the rest as being a body in the streets, beaten before it dies, as a warning, to curtail the inevitable 'over time' desire of the rest to either leave or re-negotiate the EU system.

He and those who created the Euro control matrix, very quickly, as quickly as possible....require a sad and beaten scary body, to intimidate the rest of them with.

This required him to ask the UK to leave quickly.

Which he has done.

Timing is everything for Junckers and the EU they hold captive and hostage.

What will happen, over time, is the UK will recover and as time goes by, recover even more quickly, and be better off than they were inside of the EU system.

Exactly like what happens to Iceland, which is far better off than they were before. Iceland has fully recovered in a record short time, as they were no longer under the thumb of fascist tendencies arsing out of monetary and economic manipulation by a small parasitical elite.

Parasites cannot allow recovery and health to be seen by their hosts via witnessing recovery of prior infected parties... it cannot be allowed to be seen... by hosts who are still infected by parasites. those hosts will attempt their own freedom.

There are deeper games than what I'm speaking on, though.

The idea that Germany finally got their WWII message through... and this time via economics, not physical war.

and the American banking system who financed them in the WWII period are still there, via the mechanism of NATO,and the same game as before is playing out. This is due to the USA putting the same people who were in charge of Germany during WWII, back into controlling Germany, immediately after the war. Seriously, no joke whatsoever. Look it up.

Which is: Make sure a German controlled Europe never gets teamed up with Russia, which would be an economic and manufacturing powerhouse that makes the USA's systems and connections look like a joke..

While the USA deep state, plays the EU and Germany against Russia...missile sites, trying provoke a grand European conflict, AGAIN.. (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-11753050).., with all that influx of people and refugees, and much more.

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 18:10

A good discussion .................

Keiser Report: Your Special Brexit Coctail

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Published on 25 Jun 2016

Every week Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert look at all the scandal behind the financial news headlines.
In this episode of the Keiser Report from New York City, Max and Stacy are joined by Mitch Feierstein
of PlanetPonzi.com in order to dissect the economic, monetary and financial consequences of the ‘shocking’
Brexit vote - Britain votes to leave the European Union. The Keiser Report team look closer at the market
sell off and ask whether or not it is part of a wider market weakness already set in motion months ago and
then examine the role of the media, much as in the case of the rise of Donald Trump, in simply failing to
understand the ‘disposable’ voters left behind by globalisation. Mitch shows a chart proving that the biggest
pound sterling sell off was actually in 2008 and the currency has never really recovered since then. And,
finally, they look at the opportunities presented by panic selling.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 21:22

Cameron leaves it to the next government to take it up after October... time aplenty to weave a thick carpet to shove it under and the majority of people to forget about it...

listening to the BBC news just now the UK government seems in no rush trigger
article 50 as Cameron said. Which means several months , until a new conservative
leader is chosen who would take over the prime minister role and Brexit talks.

Then there is the question of whether this will trigger a general election ?
in theory the current government has 4 years to go. Of course this
depends how the other EU states feel about the situation. Initially President
Junckers wanted it to start immediately , but other leaders like Merkel
seems more conciliatory , still early days.

Brexit: Merkel says 'no need to be nasty' in leaving talks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326

Cidersomerset

25th June 2016, 22:54

I don't know if anything will come of this ? but it would be interesting if over
17,410,742 million people signed it....LOL

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.19.1/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

EU referendum petition signed by more than 2.5m

1 hour ago
From the section EU Referendum

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/4EB5/production/_90094102_mediaitem90093124.jpg
People gathered to protest outside the Houses of Parliament following the leave result

More than 2.5 million people have signed a petition calling for a second EU referendum, after the vote to leave.

It has more signatures than any other on the parliamentary website and as it has passed 100,000, Parliament
will consider it for a debate.

The UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% in Thursday's referendum but the majority of voters in London,
Scotland and Northern Ireland backed Remain.

David Cameron has previously said there will be no second referendum.

On Friday he said he would stand down as prime minister by October following the leave result.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629324

bluestflame

25th June 2016, 23:04

looks like the scare campaign has had an effect

raff

25th June 2016, 23:56

Did anyone miss this:

Brexit Referendum Is Non-Binding. UK Parliament Not Voters has Final Say (http://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-referendum-is-non-binding-uk-parliament-not-voter-has-final-say/5532485)
[...]
All the fuss and bother about Brexit largely ignores its non-binding status – parliament, not voters decid[es] if Britain stays or leaves the EU, the latter extremely unlikely.
[...]
Leaving would require Prime Minister David Cameron invoking Article 50, unlikely given his vocal opposition to Brexit.
[...][...]

Don't worry about that that's just scaremongering. The will of the majority will be adhered to they've said it themselves. If they didn't you would have anarchy here on a large scale. The whole edifice would crumble beside the actual establishment have got the result they wanted why would they change it.

bluestflame

26th June 2016, 00:16

perhaps the real agenda here IS division, seems to have been the effect, add to that a well timed financial crash ...

Wind

26th June 2016, 00:27

perhaps the real agenda here IS division, seems to have been the effect, add to that a well timed financial crash ...

Bing-o! Now let's just observe how the dominoes shall fall...

WildOrchid

26th June 2016, 02:20

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F236x%2F60%2Fab%2Fe4%2F60abe40fd5b36236f8dda32d42a88938.jpg&f=1
I found Rex Woods (http://www.lexicolatry.com/2013/11/brittania-brit-chick-with-three-pronged.html) painting "Britannia" online, and decided to commemorate the occasion with my own artistic modification/update. I dedicate this to all Brits who said NO and voted out! And to all Brits who have the courage to face an uncertain future, and prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery! :sun:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7433/27296184353_d4f50f4c4c_c.jpg

araucaria

26th June 2016, 06:02

Of course and they should grant the British public decent time for consideration and present them with the status quod - facts and economic rundown of what the 'leave' and 'remain' options mean and offer .

We've already had all that, months and months of it on TV, in newspapers, magazines, online, endless ad campaigns and the like. It's done and dusted.

This was just a referendum ( as Herve said ) , it may mean leaving the EU or not but does not represent the final decision.

With due respect, the nation has made its decision, and now it should stick. It is the final decision. It does mean leaving the EU. The vote has been cast, and counted. Now it must be honoured. That is democracy. Anything else (a delay, a reversal, a second referendum) would imply the complete opposite of democracy - which sums up the EU, and is why the majority of the population chose to leave in the first place.

I'll tell you now, any attempt to fudge this and put through another referendum would, I fear, be disastrous. It will generate all sorts of upheaval and unrest - the sort we haven't seen in this country since the poll tax riots (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q) which I posted about here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91509-UK-vote-to-leave-EU......&p=1077081&viewfull=1#post1077081).

The thing about oligarchs is that they think democracy is too important to be entrusted to the masses, which is precisely what distinguishes oligarchy from democracy. Sure, the masses are not up to speed on the intricacies of politics; the choice is then either to deliberately make their eyes glaze over, or to educate them. Even a small child can and must be consulted and listened to on matters pertaining to itself; it can say Yes you can do this to me, or No, please stop. Failure to comply constitutes child abuse. Oligarchy is political abuse and any backing away from the people’s democratic decision would be more oligarchical abuse.

One way of educating the masses is comedy. The sixties TV soap shown earlier in this thread is one example.

...well thank you old chap and all I can say to your charming comment is rip snorter.

I say raff, I do so enjoy a good ol' ripping yarn with a jolly finale. None of that foreign muck eh what!

Good show!

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Bravo sir, bravo. Lmfao.
This show uses the strains of a working-class marriage to contrast in a humorous way the bigotry of immigrants taking our jobs with an open two-way process: the wife says ‘we can go and take theirs’. When Alf Garnett asks what it would be like if he went off to the continent on his own, her silence suggests that it wouldn’t be so bad at all. In this series the working classes got to take a wry look at various different character types and reactions among people like themselves. But of course the rounded view of immigration + emigration was harder to see on a small income. The British are notorious emigrants, but until recently a little cash was a prerequisite for travelling abroad, which is of course how the empire was built. Nowadays to be sure, travel, like other luxury commodities, has been somewhat democratized, but still, one’s range of action is a symbol of wealth and status. This is why many are still only seeing the immigration half of the equation. More democracy (synonymous with education) is required to put this right. Old Etonians cannot be expected to carry out such an agenda.

The other standout comedy show in the UK is Yes, Minister, showing how the other half live. It was all a bit of harmless fun, until enough people realized that this was no joke, they were laughing in our faces. The referendum marks the turning-point when passive amusement turned into active rejection. Here are two pieces describing the workings of the EU.

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apokalypse

26th June 2016, 06:48

can someone please explain about Invoking Article 50? the process of leaving EU and meaning of Referendum is non-binding..i don't quite understand all of this. heard that with the Article 50 treaty saying England required to stay in EU 2 years before British can leave EU..case of England right now Referendum saying Yes to leave EU, can PM go to EU and do what ever he do have England official leave EU within month or weeks?

i'm uninform about procedure..

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 09:42

Blair is definitely a mouth piece for TPTB , he has been low key due
to the Iraq War report that is due out soon after years of delay....

This is something that has happened before. Try again people ,we
don't like the result of your first go !

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Former Blair Advisor Pushes ‘Second Referendum’ to Sabotage Brexit Vote

By David on 26 June 2016 GMT

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‘Tony Blair’s former chief of staff told the BBC tonight that there should be
another referendum before Britain is allowed to leave the EU, an immediate
sign that the political class will try to sabotage the Brexit vote.

Appearing on BBC Newsnight, Jonathan Powell, who currently serves as the
UK’s special envoy to Libya, argued that Brits should be made to vote on
leaving the EU again despite the ‘Vote Leave’ campaign already winning
yesterday’s referendum.’

Read more: Former Blair Advisor Pushes ‘Second Referendum’ to Sabotage Brexit Vote

http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-blair-advisor-pushes-second-referendum-to-sabotage-brexit-vote.html

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George Soros: 'Brexit Makes EU Disintegration Irreversible'

by Tyler Durden

Jun 25, 2016 4:28 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-25/george-soros-brexit-makes-eu-disintegration-irreversible

araucaria

26th June 2016, 09:45

Wow, some people voted Leave and their voice was heard: that was not supposed to happen!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html

Well of course, it is supposed to happen, all the time, and the strange thing is how novel an idea this has become. You are not supposed to panic and change your mind when for once your vote actually counts. People are going to have to get used to the idea, which brings responsibility: you need to say what you mean and mean what you say. No more playing charades. Big Brother is listening: tell him exactly what he needs to hear. :)

But that is for future reference. Meanwhile, there is no going back. Sometimes what comes out your mouth gives a better idea of what you are really thinking than a misplaced sense of propriety allows you to express. It is known as a Freudian slip. Some folks have discovered the Freudian voting slip. Interesting how the pre-vote worry was whether to use a pen or a pencil to make sure one’s vote was not changed. Now the concern is that the vote wasn’t rigged.

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 09:55

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Brexit: 'Half' of Labour top team set to resign
27 minutes ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36632956

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RT NEWS....

Labour Party in disarray after Corbyn’s dismissal of Benn leads to mutiny

Published time: 26 Jun, 2016 07:59
Edited time: 26 Jun, 2016 09:44

https://www.rt.com/uk/348427-corbyn-benn-sacked-labour/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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With the 'Blairite' Labour rebel MP's and others trying to oust leader
Jeremy Corbyn this is very revealing as Harriet has been tipped
as a possible leader and is high up in Labour ranks.....

This is very funny when you consider who Harriet Harmen is....LOL

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Hilary Benn 'Car-Crash' Brexit Interview. Can't Win A Single Fu**ing Argument. #Brexit Andrew Neil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvSSTdg2tE

Published on 6 Jun 2016
Hilary Benn MP has an interview to forget when Andrew Neil grilles him on the key
issues leading up to Britain's 2016 EU Membership Referendum.

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 10:22

can someone please explain about Invoking Article 50?

This clip is from the BREXIT movie and explains the outline....

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BREXIT THE MOVIE FULL FILM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

Longjohn

26th June 2016, 10:58

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 11:14

Dear Somerset Man,

I must admit I wasn't taken by your enthusiasm for Brexit, but I do like your sense of humour. Hopefully, in your disillusionment with Brexit, you might become one of the Bregreters...

BTW, I lived in Bristol for 3 years and I like Somerset Cider!

I am not against a free market and no tariff trading zones its what it
is leading towards.......As you know Bridgwater folk traditionally have
been a rebellious lot and helped lead the way to the abolishment of
slavery in the UK and other things when we put our mind to it...LOL

I am a trades unionist and we went on strike in 2015 in support of a
colleague, breaking the law in doing so. Sometimes a man or a woman
has to what a man or a woman has to do ...LOL

Wildcat strikes win a first class victory for disabled post worker Andrew Mootoo
by Nick Clark
https://socialistworker.co.uk/images1412/Image/2016/2491/mootoo2.jpg

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42181/Wildcat+strikes+win+a+first+class+victory+for+disabled+post+worker+Andrew+Mootoo

http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/resources/images/4729523/?type=responsive-gallery

http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/news/14273503.Victory_for_Bridgwater_postal_workers_as_dismissed_postman_with_MS_is_reinstated_after_stri ke/

Some Bridgwater 'posties' a motley lovable bunch of........LOL

We all lost our pay for standing up for our principles !!! and we are part of
the Bristol area as opposed to the Taunton area as they are not militant
in theses matters. I know the trades union recommended to stay in the
EU but they do not know what we know.

The 'postie' in the Chelsea bobble hat in the front is ecnal 61 a Avalon member
and workmate , I am there somewhere , I think I am sitting on the wall at
the back chatting...LOL

http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/resources/images/3334496.jpg?

http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/news/11564030.Appeal_lodged_after_Bridgwater_Royal_Mail_worker_strike/

Bicentenary of the 1807 Abolition of the Slave Trade Act
http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/content/articles/2007/02/19/abolition_somerset_and_slavery_feature.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgwater

Cassmiranda

26th June 2016, 13:08

John Pilger article from New Matilda; an Australian Independent Media platform

“The Leave vote was people power in action, which is why the enemies of democracy hate it so much. John Pilger explains.

The majority vote by Britons to leave the European Union was an act of raw democracy. Millions of ordinary people refused to be bullied, intimidated and dismissed with open contempt by their presumed betters in the major parties, the leaders of the business and banking oligarchy and the media”

https://newmatilda.com/2016/06/26/a-blow-for-democracy-john-pilger-on-why-the-british-said-no-to-europe/

The comments section highlights the conflicted attitudes.

For me (not British and with little background knowledge) the thought of trusting huge centralised power structures with the future is not sensible. Having said that, if I was in the thick of it I may have voted “remain” because of the threatened social repercussions…. as I believe so strongly in social justice.

I wonder if democracy has failed if the issues that people are voting on are obfuscated. Maybe this was deliberate because even though the vote was for Brexit, it sure seems like a lot of people are deeply upset. There is great unrest from the ‘remain’ side and they don’t seem to be accepting the decision…which isn’t binding. If another referendum was held the result could be different and the people might be chastened.

sunpaw

26th June 2016, 13:29

I found an interesting article at The Telegraph - on mobile posted at Twitter (#Leave)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/the-eu-will-treat-britain-like-greece/

It's not asking to log in on mobile ..

Regarding 'there is time for article 50' - everything has to be negotiated and this needs time. Waiting is wasting time. If its not 'a deal' - its a loss for the UK.
The EU doesn't care - being called 'Hitler' buried the willingness to go for win-win solutions.
Since Leave-movement seemed not to care about ripples within the EU - which can affect people THERE too - its another point for a not strong negotiation position.

The EU, companies EU and international prepared for Leave - moving on as smooth as possible.
Moving companies (and employees) means mainly EU-workers - since there are laws about employment of non-EU-workers (which also applies for athletes, such as soccer player at European Clubs).
If it were 'that easy' Croatians, Ukrainians could already work for instance in Switzerland, Germany,.. Yet they can't/couldn't.
Croatia joined the EU as a member - which means people officially can work in the EU, live there easily.
Which now has to be negotiated for UK people. With the EU and additionally with Switzerland.
Switzerland is already preparing for talks, asking to be included in the EU talks (as in the same time and not separately.) Since Switzerland has deals with the EU it had to wait - they can't just jump in and make deals first with the UK.
Such deals are about - whats happening with people working and living in Switzerland for instance - since their status has changed and also Switzerland's law applies.
Which also should rather be in the UK's interested to start to talk about - and not dragging on with 'we have time'.

UK doesn't have time - and leaving everyone else in waiting position doesn't give 'extra points' either.

However promoting 'we have time' just works fine so far - its celebration time/worry time . Taking matters into own hand (shouting at people to leave).
While companies already have plans for the future. To adjust - while moving on.. Which they didn't just came up with the last few days.
So everyone else seemed to be prepared - and the UK is in celebration mood and/or not.

I am not sure what the 'freedom' means actually.. To have lost literal free movement, trading,...
If so - does 'we have time' also literally mean -'we have none' (?)

Just wondering....

Best wishes.

Agape

26th June 2016, 13:34

Great photos , thanks Cider :clapping:

The problem is that this is not your small 'local decision' and 'insider point of view' ( reversing the NWO here :bigsmile: ) ,
if you would ask all around the EU, go to countryside and ask people what they think of the EU and whether they 'want it' , you'd hear the expletives in all the European languages ( but due to the 'Union' young people do speak English nowadays , not so true about your 'older generation' ).
It's 'quid pro quod' in this case , in my opinion. Your decisioning is not about any 'li'l yourself' , it would reshuffle the bigger European and in turn , the worlds history and yours as well .

The EU was kind-of forced upon all of us as the more sentient option so that small countries could ever withstand the pressure from more aggressive economical market.
It sucked lots of sentient economy into itself and made everyone crazy about exporting products from one country to another and importing their products and so forth.

It shows again how large 'unions' are difficult to organise .

The problem really is not 'you' and never been 'just you' , the problem is being part of the larger whole, that is unavoidable since we're on this planet together with 7 billion diverse but breathing, feeling , thinking humans .
In past you could be 'the only ones' for a while and theoretically, you still own 1/6th of the land and had some 'evolutionary advantage' but nowadays ,
it's about being part of the global dialogue .

If we can't have one .. which is really very weak point with MOST of our older generations mindset who simply 'take a decision' and 'like it or leave it'

because for many thousands of years it was 'thus' ,

we are descending to age back then .

I say all the systems are corrupted because peoples mentality is corrupted . I don't take care of those systems but I care about people and see how they're.

Someone in authority are never capable of dialogue . They want to 'lead', decide , divide and conquer and they do and they're taking victims to their responsibility or loss of and walk out pretending utter innocence .

The EU again, is not about 'EU' , if there's only a Europe on the planet you don't need EU.

It's about economic giants like China, the US and the BRICS I suppose because if there's no EU they'll keep buying our economy smart as they can and they already do .

So called 'free market' is currently a utopia , it's the weakest part of the economic chain nowadays . The largest part of 'capital' is owned by banks and corporations and goes back to hands of few people in the background .

The problem of the world as I see it is problem of narrow minded human mentalities who are unable to engage in meaningful dialogue with each other .
It's either 'i'm right' or 'you're right' but nothing in between and taking 'strong stand' and shooting each other for an opinion.

H.H. Dalailama once said the '21st century should be a century of dialogue' . But I see it's nowhere in that direction quite yet .
The British ( but many other worlds mentalities ) are like 'you have no compares' . No matter what , you're the best .
It results in making many good friends till you can be the good host but having no partners in the endgame because they 'don't compare'.

My uncle says that it's only after their generation and my generation die out the world will change because the mindsets are too stubborn . Some peoples are .
I can't talk to him really he's grim :bigsmile:

Eram

26th June 2016, 14:00

norman

26th June 2016, 14:40

The dirty fight is ON.

My daughter in Toulouse just told me that they deactivated her health insurance card almost immediately after the result.

Longjohn

26th June 2016, 15:22

My worry about this vote for a Brexit is that it is cast for all the wrong reasons.

Racism, nationalism, xenophobia, frustration in general, these are all expressions of the divisive energies that give people like Boris Johnson, Trump, Geert Wilders (Netherlands), Le Penn (France) and others a platform.
They are of a masculine nature in a childlike egotistic struggle to be free but without the responsibility to carry the weight of it.

Much will be destroyed, also the good things that came from centuries of hard work and effort.
There is no plan for a constructive change, just an adolescent .. "NO".

The coming economic storm might prove to be too big for isolated countries to survive.
I hope that the UK will find ways to overcome it without falling into total collapse.

My dear Eram,

I could not agree with you more. We will not defeat the so-called 'NWO' or the 'Powers that be' with immature expressions of rebellion.

Revolt against oppression may be necessary, and it sometimes produces beneficial results. However, Britain was never an oppressed country under the yoke of an EU dictatorship. Therefore the UK could have continued to work within the EU to change it for the better, while still retaining the benefits of membership. That opportunity will now be lost.

As I survey the mounting chaos in the British political establishment, I wish some of us (me included) had somehow been able to send out a more positive message based on direct experience of the benefits of having a European Community of nations.

To support this, I will mention my own positive experience of working in EU funded projects. Over the years, I have been involved in several research programs, such as those under the BRITE and LINK schemes, which were designed to foster pan-European cooperation. A prerequisite for these projects was the participation of smaller, less well-developed members of the EU, much to the benefit of their growing economies. I thought this was a wonderful way of working together and transferring knowledge across borders. Have a look at this, for example:

http://ec.europa.eu/research/index.cfm

Young British innovators who could help to create Britain's future prosperity will now be denied the opportunities that I have had in the last 25 years.

Best regards,

John

Hervé

26th June 2016, 15:26

Brexit- What is the Hidden Globalist Game? (http://henrymakow.com/2016/06/brexit-what-is-the-globalist-game.html)

By Northsider
Brexit- Another Zionist Dialectic (https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/brexit-another-zionist-dialectic/https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/brexit-another-zionist-dialectic/)
(henrymakow.com)
June 26, 2016

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/bj-wall.jpeg
Boris Johnson's stepmother Jenny, the second wife of his father Stanley, is the stepdaughter of Edward Sieff, the former chairman of Marks & Spencer

The prompt acceptance of the narrow referendum win should make you suspicious. Brexit is supposed to be a blow to the masonic Jew World Order. But all the usual suspects, including the mass media, supported it. What trick do the globalists have up their sleeve?

"Brexit is pure political theatre for the gullible masses and nothing more...Throughout the campaign, Brexiters lamented how the establishment was ranged against them, but in truth the reverse was the reality."There is great rejoicing in much of the so called alternative media over the "Brexit" result in yesterday's British referendum on membership of the European Union. If more proof were needed that the alternative media is often misinformed and credulous, this is it.

Alternative types, from David Duke to David Icke, have of course been insisting for months that the Brexit movement represents a mighty blow against Zio-globalism. There may be some excuse for Duke to believe this guff: he is, after all, an American and presumably relies on British "white nationalists" for information about such matters. There is little or no excuse for British white nationalists themselves, or for British critics of Zionism like Icke, to be so deceived.

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/bj-handshake.jpeg
(Borris and his buddy in Masonic handshake)

Unless they have been paying very scant attention indeed, they should have noticed that the Brexit movement is overwhelmingly dominated not just by common or garden Zionists, but by hard-core Zionist ultras of a particularly toxic variety. For example, Boris Johnson, the part-Jewish de facto frontman for Brexit, describes himself as "a passionate Zionist" and supports with an equal passion both the corrupt City of London and mass migration to Europe.

But compared to Michael Gove, the other leading Tory Brexit spokesman and senior British cabinet member, Boris is a veritable peacenik. Gove has long been the type of Zionist shill about whom it is fair to say he never saw a Zio-war he didn't like. A former journalist with the Zionist London Times newspaper, he once penned the following excruciating line about war criminal Blair: "I can't help myself! I love Tony!".

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/gove.jpeg

It's worth pointing out, by the way, that Johnson, and more especially Gove, are close personal friends of British Prime Minister David Cameron, which makes it, therefore, more than plausible to suggest that their dispute over Brexit is pure political theatre for the gullible masses and nothing more.

Chris Grayling, another senior Tory Brexiter, is a member of British Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM), a Zionist lobby group. When he was secretary of state for Justice and Lord Chancellor, Grayling declared war on "extremists", the working definition of which, he made clear, amounted to anyone who criticised Israel or the War on Terror.

Theresa Villiers, the British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, and Brexiter, is an "officer" of the Conservative Friends of Israel (CFI) and ardent Zionist.

Iain Duncan Smith, a long standing supporter of Brexit, who resigned recently form his senior ministry in the Cameron government, also belongs to the CFI, as indeed do nearly all the leading Tory Brexiters.

http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/r-LIAM-FOX-ELECTORAL-COMMISSION-large570-300x125.jpg

Then there's Liam Fox, left, another Neocon ultra, who was forced to resign from his job as Secretary of State for Defence, after it was revealed that billionaire Israeli arms dealer, Poju Zabludowicz, was funding his jet setting playboy lifestyle, and that of his erstwhile "adviser" Adam Werrity.

It isn't just on the Tory side where Brexit goes with passionate Zionism. One of the small handful of Labour Party Brexit supporters was Gisela Stuart, a German born Zionist, and a member of the Neocon "Henry Jackson Society". Stuart received lavish media coverage throughout the campaign - courtesy of her Zionist friends at the BBC. Other Labour Brexit supporters like Kate Hoey and Frank Field, also strongly support Israel.

THE ZIONIST-CONTROLLED MEDIA

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Then there's the media: Murdoch's soft-porn rags have fervently advocated for Brexit since well before the vote was called. Ditto the soft core porn Daily Mail, and the Daily Express, owned by Zionist hard-porn baron, Richard Desmond. The Telegraph is if anything even more Neocon than the Murdoch press, and likewise took a strong pro-Brexit stance. Even those media one might normally expect to be pro-EU adopted a distinctly ambivalent approach to the issue.

For example, the Guardian and the Independent published many articles in support of leaving the EU in the run up to voting day. By the same token, in one of the key televised debates on the Brexit issue, the BBC slanted the panel three to two in favour of Brexit. One of the two "spokespersons" they invited to appear that night to argue in favour of staying in the EU was Eddie Izzard, a buffoonish and widely despised transvestite "comedian" who appeared on the panel with bright red lip stick, mascara, nail varnish and clad in a woman's jacket and blouse, and a pink beret. Not exactly an advocate designed to appeal to the undecided voters of middle England - or middle anywhere else - one would have thought.

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(Julie Burchill of The Guardian, draped in Israeli flag, part of the pro-Brexit Pressitute corps.)

When it comes to individual journalists, the roll call of pro-Brexiters in general corresponded to the leading names in "Zio-presstitution": Julie Burchill, Douglas Murray, Charles Moore, Julia Hartley Brewer, Matthew Parris, Toby Young, Janet Daley, and even Peter Hitchens - who in spite of his stated reservations about western invasions around the world, can always be relied upon to stoutly defend the Israeli state.

Throughout the campaign, Brexiters lamented how the establishment was ranged against them, but in truth the reverse was the reality. Indeed ironically enough the corporate media eagerly spun the Leave campaign meme of the referendum as a David and Goliath contest between the plucky Brexit underdog and the nasty pro-EU ruling elite. Moreover, unlike the case of the Scottish independence referendum two years ago, there were very few corporate celebs rushing to support the pro-EU side.

In the Scottish referendum, almost anyone who was anyone in showbiz - Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Kate Moss, et al - put their name to a letter calling on Scotland to stay in the United Kingdom. No such closing of celeb ranks took place against Brexit - which in itself goes a long way to refuting the notion that Brexit was an anti-establishment cause.

THE ZIO GAME?
So if the Zio-globalists favoured Brexit what was their game? Not for the first time, the Russians seemed to have got closer to the reality than many of the western alternative media did.

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Last week Putin suggested that Cameron had called the referendum in order to "blackmail" the rest of Europe. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/17/vladimir-putin-states-david-cameron-may-have-called-eu-referendu/) The evidence for this theory is compelling. It should be remembered that for all their self-serving chauvinistic rhetoric, the British Neocons don't dislike the EU on account of its control by corrupt transnationals and even more corrupt bankers: au contraire they want it to be even MORE controlled by these forces than it already is.

The referendum was clearly a move to force the EU to undertake "root and branch reform", i.e., to surrender completely to Anglo-American Zionist warmongers and corporate privateers. In all the phoney euphoria over the Brexit result it's easily forgotten that in so far as there has been opposition to Zionist war-mongering, surveillance and privatization within the EU, it has certainly not come from Britain.

Furthermore the desire of British Neocons to force the EU's hand is not really a secret: in the very early days of the referendum campaign, Boris Johnson and another leading Brexiter, former Tory leader, Michael Howard, both stated that a Brexit vote was a way of forcing Europe to make better terms with Britain.

For all its bellyaching, the British Zio-masonic state already gets much better terms from the EU than most European nations - not surprising since the EU is not, as British chauvinists of Hitchens' type ludicrously claim, a German imperialist project, but rather a vehicle for Anglo-American Zionist dominion. For instance Angela Merkel agreed to take in a million refugees to Germany, while Britain has agreed to take in a paltry 20,000 over five years. By the same token the French are compelled by their Anglo-masters to oversee huge refugee camps on their northern coast - in order to prevent migrants making it to Britain.

None of the above is to in any way argue that opposition to the EU is misguided, but simply to illustrate that in this particular referendum there were no good guys. A triumph against globalism Brexit most certainly was not.

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2016/06/brexit-what-is-the-globalist-game.html#sthash.3lpcKxpu.dpuf

norman

26th June 2016, 16:30

It looks like there is going to be a 2nd referendum:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 16:54

Petition for UK Brexit revote hits three million signatures in just two days

By David on 26 June 2016 GMT

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‘While Britain comes to terms with its dramatic EU exit, a sizable number are trying to
prevent just that. A petition to hold a second EU referendum has captured the imagination
of the public and three million people have already signed it.

The speed in which the British public has flocked to sign the parliament petition has been
staggering. Created in the immediate aftermath of Britain’s decision to vote to leave the
EU on Friday morning, in the space of around 48 hours, it has managed to acquire over
three million votes.

By gaining over 100,000 signatures, Parliament will now have to debate whether to hold
a second referendum.’

Read more: Petition for UK Brexit revote hits three million signatures in just two days

https://www.rt.com/uk/348437-brexit-petition-parliament-millons/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Who Is William Oliver Healey?

#BREXIT PETITION: Who Is William Oliver Healey?

June 25, 2016 By 21wire 18 Comments

21st Century Wire says…

We heard about the big petition, but who is the author?

This is interesting…

Mike Robinson
UK Column

The #EUReferendumPsyop continues in the form of a petition calling for a second referendum.
So far, 2.1 million people have signed it.

‘An online search for “William Oliver Healey” reveals a host of results, almost all of which
point to the petition itself or news articles and blog posts about the petition, and almost
none of which lead to a real human being called “William Oliver Healey”.

No-one seems to be asking the simple question, who is “William Oliver Healey”?

… EDITORS NOTE: Upon closer examination after downloading the data from this petition,
it appears that a great number of the signatures are from an array of foreign countries
ranging from Cuba, to Mauritania, to Algeria, Argentina, Burundi, Iran and even Moldova,
along with dozens of others. It’s possible that an overwhelming majority of the petition’s
‘signatures’ are from overseas. Very odd, and in such a short space of time. Could this be
the work of automated software, also known as ‘internet ‘bots’?’

Read more …

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/06/25/brexit-petition-scandal-who-is-william-oliver-healey/

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Sturgeon demands immediate discussions with the EU to keep Scotland 'In' but told 'No, that's not how it works'

By David on 26 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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Nicola Sturgeon was dealt a savage blow to her hopes of keeping Scotland in the EU as Brussels
officials stated that if Britain exits then Scotland goes with it too.

They also stated that if Scotland was to win a second referendum on becoming independent of the
UK then they would have to reapply for EU membership’

Read more: Sturgeon demands immediate discussions with the EU to keep Scotland ‘In’ but told
‘No, that’s not how it works’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660320/NON-EU-slaps-Sturgeon-SNP-leader-dramatically-announces-wants-immediate-discussions-STAY-EU-humiliated-Brussels-says-No-s-not-works.html

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Hollande rejects Le Pen’s calls for Frexit referendum

Published time: 26 Jun, 2016 04:47

President Francois Hollande has firmly rejected calls for a referendum on leaving
the EU, said French right-wing leader Marine Le Pen. Disappointed with the talks
and disregard for public opinion, she was left with the “feeling of coming for
nothing.”

https://www.rt.com/news/348422-hollande-rejects-frexit-referendum/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Published on 16 Jun 2016

Paolo Barnard, the most censored italian economic journalist, reveals the truth
about BREXIT and the European Union.

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China warns Brexit will 'cast shadow' over global economy

6 hours ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36632934

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Back to the usual political 'waffle' , B S , lies and Westminster talk......

The Andrew Marr Show

26/06/2016

Interviews with key newsmakers and cultural figures, and a look at what is
happening in the world this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07jgrs5/the-andrew-marr-show-26062016

One

26th June 2016, 17:33

I have just come across this if it hasn't been posted before.

The European Union, a Fascist Superstate -- Rodney Atkinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QtgtXJxYQ

Some very "Interesting" history...

WildOrchid

26th June 2016, 18:02

araucaria

26th June 2016, 18:29

Petition for UK Brexit revote hits three million signatures in just two days

The difference between a referendum and an online petition is that with a referendum a specific electorate gets one vote per person, but an online petition is totally uncontrollable. The more 'petitioners' sign up, the less likely they are all different legitimate voters. Has anyone checked how many different IP addresses have been used? And if they have, does it actually mean anything? Etc.

WildOrchid

26th June 2016, 18:31

Seems quite fitting....
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Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 19:41

Plenty of BS going on in the void after the vote .....For me there would
have to be a genuine petition with over 17 and half million votes for
it to be considered.

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3Million+ ‘Remain’ Petition Uses ‘Script’ To ‘Fake’ Signatures: 25,000 From North Korea, 2,800 From Uninhabitable Antarctic

By David on 26 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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‘Questions are being raised as to the true number of UK citizens signing a petition to urge another
European Union membership referendum as evidence emerged that activists are encouraging foreign
signatories. Some critics claim that a “bot” or “script” is being used to automatically generate names
and signatories.

As of early Sunday afternoon, over 3.1 million signatures had been registered on the petition named:
“EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum” which calls for the “Government to implement
a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be
another referendum.”

But an analysis of the data on the petition shows that at least 6 per cent of the signatories, or nearly
200,000 are from foreign countries. While foreign-based UK nationals are allowed to sign UK petitions,
some believe that many of these are fraudulent given that Remain activists are handing out post codes
online in order to elicit more signatures from abroad.’

Read more: 3Million+ ‘Remain’ Petition Uses ‘Script’ To ‘Fake’ Signatures: 25,000 From North Korea,
2,800 From Uninhabitable Antarctic

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/26/questions-raised-3m-remain-petition-activists-encourage-foreign-signatories/

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Petition For A Second EU Referendum Under Investigation By Westminster For Fraud

By David on 26 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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petition-683520It has now emerged that the House of Commons Petitions Committee is investigating the petition over allegations of fraud.

The committee has confirmed it has removed 77,000 signatures already which were fraudulently added.

39,000 signatures were from the Vatican City which has a population of only 800 and 23,000 from North Korea.

Read more: Petition For A Second EU Referendum Under Investigation By Westminster For Fraud

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/second-eu-referendum-petition-investigated-mps-fraud_uk_576fbc52e4b0d2571149c95e

sheme

26th June 2016, 19:59

Quote "Plenty of BS going on in the void after the vote .....For me there would
have to be a genuine petition with over 17 and half million votes for
it to be considered."

I would not even consider it if there were 32 million votes- what are you thinking of my friend the vote has passed and decided- America will have to go whistle- the majority of the British people are awake and say no to EU/US rule. Guess that we are not as dumb as they think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJVV9hD5yY#t=503.898583

Like this man states these hard won freedoms were never ours to throw away.

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 20:20

Although most of the show was 'waffle' as I said on previous page, the opening
segment is interesting.....

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Published on 26 Jun 2016
First BBC Marr Show since Brexit.

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All the talk about the country being divided is not a bad as the press would
make you believe imo.....

The discussion is about the 52% leave 48% stay vote there were still a lot
of no voters. So 17 410 742 & 16 141 241 = 33 551 983 total voters.

So 12 947 554 million eligible to vote did not , though there are usually
some spoilt ballot papers in most elections.Just to put it in perspective that
when they say the country is split because the vote was so close, may not
necessarily be true....

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The future of the UK’s position in Europe is in the hands of a record electorate of
46,499,537, according to provisional figures published on Tuesday by the Electoral
Commission.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/22/record-electorate-prepare-go-to-polls-eu-referendum

161803398

26th June 2016, 20:30

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/brexit-is-just-the-beginning-of-a-popular-revolt-against-elites-2016-06-24?mod=mw_share_facebook

Now that Britain has done the unthinkable and voted to leave the European Union, the critics are ruthless in their condemnation of Prime Minister David Cameron for his “irresponsible act” in calling the referendum in the first place.

As if it were his fault.

As if he was responsible for the bloated Brussels bureaucracy and undemocratic governance structure in the EU.

As if he were to blame for the domination of an unequal union by a German chancellor responsive and accountable only to her own domestic political concerns.

Investors had better get used to a lot of volatility because Brexit is just the beginning
Yes, Cameron will step down, as political accountability in a parliamentary system demands. He miscalculated and lost big time, staking his political future on a Remain vote.

It was Martin Wolf, the prestigious columnist for the Financial Times, who last month labeled the referendum on a British exit from the EU — widely known as Brexit – as “the most irresponsible act by a British government in my lifetime.”

The nerve of the leader of one of the world’s oldest democracies to actually let the voting public decide the future of the nation.

Cameron surely would have been much smarter to follow the lead of the political elites in other countries and to ignore the rising hostility to a union that seems to be stifling progress rather than increasing prosperity for all.

Instead, he committed the unforgivable sin of allowing democracy to function, a debate to be held, and voters to choose.

In doing so, Cameron has opened a Pandora’s box of insurgency against the political elite in Europe.

01:59 / 06:44
Four Forces Shaping the Future of Europe(6:44)
The United Kingdom has become the first country to vote to leave the modern European Union, but the debate over Europe and the Union is far from over. WSJ's Niki Blasina explains four forces that will determine the future of the EU.

The British vote in favor of leaving the EU will embolden euroskeptic forces in other European countries to demand their own referendums or to win sufficient support in their parliaments to break with Brussels if it cannot implement fundamental reforms.

If it had not been Cameron in Britain, it would have been another leader in another country, because the forces hostile to Europe were going to blow the lid off that box sooner or later.

Another hoary establishment mouthpiece, the New York Times, joined the chorus of criticism this week, proclaiming in a headline that with the referendum, Cameron “faces problem of his own making.”

Could it not just as easily read that Brussels faces a problem of its own making? That German Chancellor Angela Merkel faces a problem of her own making?

Financial markets are throwing a colossal tantrum because investment banks and other big market players placed their Brexit bets wrong.

But investors had better get used to a lot of volatility because Brexit is just the beginning.

A restless, beaten-down public has drawn the first blood in a rebellion against a neoliberal economic orthodoxy committed to globalization that has sucked the life out of whole communities and blighted the future of a generation.

Spanish voters will go the polls Sunday in an attempt to correct December’s indecisive national elections, splitting support among four parties unable to agree on a governing coalition. The insurgent left-wing party Podemos may gain added momentum from the Brexit victory.

Read: Paralyzed Spain heads for election rerun this weekend: 5 things to know

Marine Le Pen, leader of the right-wing French National Front, is already hailing the Brexit vote as a model for how voters can reclaim their “liberty,” as she gears up for France’s presidential election next year.

In Italy, the populist Five Star Movement, fresh from its victories in the mayoral contests in Rome and Turin, will continue its campaign to undermine the center-left government of Prime Minister Matteo Renzi.

In the Netherlands, Austria, Denmark, and even Germany, right-wing euroskeptic parties are winning support and gaining momentum.

Nor is the anti-establishment rebellion confined to Europe. In the U.S., the insurgent campaigns of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have resonated with profoundly dissatisfied voters who feel they are getting shafted by a “rigged” economic system.

Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democratic nominee, is the only establishment politician left standing in the race for the White House and there is no guarantee that she will prevail in November.

Read: Globalization loses in Brexit vote, but it’s not the end of the world

Brexit may be the thread that ultimately unravels the cozy system that enriches a few while leaving the multitude to scrape by, but when the emperor stands there with no clothes, it won’t be just Britain that feels the impact.

And you can’t blame David Cameron for all that.

giovonni

26th June 2016, 21:34

Yes ...

"Don't blame Prime Minister David Cameron for his “irresponsible act” in calling the referendum in the first place" ...

One should not give him too much credit ... As for election results - do you really trust them ?

For me there's obviously something more purposefully sinister going on here ?

there are no coincidences folks ... giggle :)

The Windmills of Your Mind - Noel Harrison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhS9Y9HYjU

Valle

26th June 2016, 21:42

EXCLUSIVE: Brexit ‘2nd Referendum Petition’ A 4 Chan Prank: BBC Report It As Real
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/

It follows a formal inquiry launched less than three hours earlier, amid claims some of the more than three million signatures it has gained since Friday may be fraudulent.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/concern-as-online-call-for-second-brexit-vote-gains-more-than-39/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Longjohn

26th June 2016, 21:47

The committee has confirmed it has removed 77,000 signatures already which were fraudulently added.

39,000 signatures were from the Vatican City which has a population of only 800 and 23,000 from North Korea.

Read more: Petition For A Second EU Referendum Under Investigation By Westminster For Fraud

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/second-eu-referendum-petition-investigated-mps-fraud_uk_576fbc52e4b0d2571149c95e

There is at least one legitimate vote in this petition - mine! I have a British passport and home address in the UK.

Cheers, John

Cidersomerset

26th June 2016, 21:59

Longjohn

26th June 2016, 22:08

[QUOTE]

Longjohn:
Do you feel Britain should stay in the EU, and could you elaborate why?

Dear WildOrchid,

If it's OK for you, I will reply to this tomorrow. It's midnight here. Throughout this thread, I've made several comments in both my own posts and responses to other posts.

In the meantime, I wish you a good night!

John

Longjohn

26th June 2016, 22:38

There is at least one legitimate vote in this petition - mine! I have a British passport and home address in the UK.

Cheers, John

I'm sure you are not alone and frustrated, but it is the shake up politics needs imo...

It has rejuvenated the youth vote starting with the...

ONE SOCK OR TWO DEBATE....

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Dear Cider,

Are these two guys called Boris and David, by any chance?

In the final referendum vote, I believe 75% of the youngsters voted 'Remain' because they cared about their futures, but were effectively disenfranchised by the owd buggers who overwhelmingly (and selfishly?) voted 'Out'. :sun:

A good night to you, my friend.

John

aviators

27th June 2016, 02:43

Greetings.... I found this article to sum things up. Spot on most likely.

THE DECISION BY U.K. voters to leave the EU is such a glaring repudiation of the wisdom and relevance of elite political and media institutions that — for once — their failures have become a prominent part of the storyline. Media reaction to the Brexit vote falls into two general categories: (1) earnest, candid attempts to understand what motivated voters to make this choice, even if that means indicting one’s own establishment circles, and (2) petulant, self-serving, simple-minded attacks on disobedient pro-leave voters for being primitive, xenophobic bigots (and stupid to boot), all to evade any reckoning with their own responsibility. Virtually every reaction that falls into the former category emphasizes the profound failures of Western establishment factions; these institutions have spawned pervasive misery and inequality, only to spew condescending scorn at their victims when they object.

IN SUM, THE West’s establishment credibility is dying, and their influence is precipitously eroding — all deservedly so. The frenetic pace of online media makes even the most recent events feel distant, like ancient history. That, in turn, makes it easy to lose sight of how many catastrophic and devastating failures Western elites have produced in a remarkably short period of time.

In 2003, U.S. and British elites joined together to advocate one of the most heinous and immoral aggressive wars in decades: the destruction of Iraq; that it turned out to be centrally based on falsehoods that were ratified by theo most trusted institutions, as well as a complete policy failure even on its own terms, gutted public trust.

Corrupt elites always try to persuade people to continue to submit to their dominance in exchange for protection from forces that are even worse. That’s their game. But at some point, they themselves, and their prevailing order, become so destructive, so deceitful, so toxic, that their victims are willing to gamble that the alternatives will not be worse, or at least, they decide to embrace the satisfaction of spitting in the faces of those who have displayed nothing but contempt and condescension for them.

Full article here...

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/

161803398

27th June 2016, 06:58

I dont understand why anyone in the UK would want to have faceless bureaucrats making decisions for them. I have little trust in politicians anyway (and no trust in Bureaucrats) so how is it that people would want this set up in exchange for being able to travel without a passport, particularly when some of the EU's regulations sound to me to be, at the best, slightly nuts. I don't get it. Also, Europe except Germany has been in an awful mess financially almost since there has been an EU, so what is the deal?

In the meanwhile, the US and Nato are waging war all over the place and this is okay? But, reading the British online chat over the weekend it appears that many people in England were primarily freaked out about the accusation of being "racist" when it's obvious that, while there are normally racist types in any country, England is generally very egalitarian. They were also dying of "shame" because of what the rest of the world thought, when in fact, anyone I know in Canada is saying good for them. I personally think that Brexit may have saved us all...for a time anyway. I just don't get what is going on here.

Also, only one person mentioned the trade agreement saying that if they left the EU they might have it shoved up their collective derrieres. While I think the opposite could be true, that was the only argument from anyone that I heard that had any importance whatsoever. The rest was a lot of crying about people think they were stupid or racist. WTflyingfox is happening over there? This is not the England I know. Its almost like they have been in a relationship with an abusive spouse.

I haven't been there for a while. I remember witty, self-confident but polite people.

Mike Gorman

27th June 2016, 07:20

Hooray, I am so relieved that Brexit was successful - for a moment there I thought the globalist bureaucrats would prevail and the tyranny and authoritarianism further embed into the U.K. Now there is a chance that ordinary people are in fact waking up and have had enough of being told they need to feel guilt for the colonial past and atone by allowing the hordes of resentful immigrants into the country and disrespect the culture, flip the bird at Anglo-Saxon-Celtic culture.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, this is a victory for all liberty loving people.

161803398

27th June 2016, 07:55

"Hooray, I am so relieved that Brexit was successful - for a moment there I thought the globalist bureaucrats would prevail and the tyranny and authoritarianism further embed into the U.K. Now there is a chance that ordinary people are in fact waking up and have had enough of being told they need to feel guilt for the colonial past and atone by allowing the hordes of resentful immigrants into the country and disrespect the culture, flip the bird at Anglo-Saxon-Celtic culture.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, this is a victory for all liberty loving people."

I'm so glad you said that. I was feeling almost traumatized by reading all that Brexit conversation this weekend.

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 08:30

Chancellor George 'OZZY ' Osborne has changed his tune........
No emergency budget , infact we can face the world from
a position of strength. The political rhetoric or BS is changing....

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Osborne: UK in a position of strength

37 minutes ago

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George Osborne: "We are equipped for whatever happens"

George Osborne has said the UK is ready to face the future "from a position
of strength" and indicated there will be no immediate emergency Budget.

He said there would still need to be an "adjustment" in the UK economy.

However, it was "perfectly sensible to wait for a new prime minister" before
taking any such action.

He also said that only the UK could begin the process of leaving the EU by
triggering Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36637732

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 08:48

Brexit Establishment losers - who saw their arrogance punctured by The People - conspire to block EU exit

By David on 27 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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The Brexit vote was a massive statement against the political class made up of all parties
who think they can run countries like their personal fiefdom. To them, the general population
are only there to serve their interests and that of The System they serve and worship. Nicola
Sturgeon, Tony Blair, Michael Heseltine – different party labels but exactly the same mentality.

The People said no to them and now in a terrible-twos response they plan to do everything
they can to block the stated will of those who voted to leave the tyrannical EU.

As I said when the vote was announced – this is only the start.

Stay Strong

Read here …

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3661258/Bitter-Brexit-losers-gang-scupper-EU-pull-17-million-voted-for.html

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Haaretz Confirms: Britain Has Been Operating As An Israeli Puppet Within The EU

By David on 27 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation

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‘“With Brexit, Israel Loses a Major Asset in the European Union,” Haaretz reports today.

“Britain helped moderate and balance EU decisions about the peace process, blunt criticism
and even harness the member states against anti-Israel moves at the UN; voices sympathetic
to the Palestinian cause could now become more dominant.”

The Israelis have started to recognize that the Jewish State: “has lost a significant asset in
the European Union…, Britain leaving would not serve Israeli interests, especially on the
Palestinian issue.”’

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Read more: Haaretz Confirms: Britain Has Been Operating As An Israeli Puppet
Within The EU

Read More...
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/6/26/haaretz-confirms-britain-has-been-operating-as-an-israeli-puppet-within-the-eu

bluestflame

27th June 2016, 09:11

https://theinternationalreporter.org/2016/03/30/bombshell-french-counter-terror-boss-i-have-proof-who-killed-litvinenko-it-wasnt-russia/ sorta related , lot of back and forward going on , uk daily mail carried a storry with allegations this bloke supposedly made about putin

Paul Barril
A former French official who has had senior roles in internal security and terror fighting has come forward with a remarkable statement: that he has documentary evidence proving that Alexander Litvinenko, the Russian spy who died from polonium poisoning, was killed by US and UK special services.

In a lengthy interview which is soon to be published, he goes further, saying that Litvinenko’s murder was a special sevices operation designed to defame Russia and Vladimir Putin, that the notorious Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky was involved, and was himself killed by MI6 when he became a liability. He even says he knows the code name of the operation: “Beluga”.

seems a big campaign to tarnish credibility of putin

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 10:46

seems a big campaign to tarnish credibility of putin

A lot of the remain politicians kept saying Brexit
would be good for Putin. Which is BS imo.....

The Russia question is being manipulated at a
larger geopolitical level.

animovado

27th June 2016, 11:25

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 11:34

Talking about the geo political picture....

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Published on 26 Jun 2016

The meaning of Brexit – the bigger picture. UK voters have rejected the EU and,
importantly, they have rejected the political status quo. Today, sovereignty and
national interest trump elite-driven internationalism.
CrossTalking with Alex Christoforou, Mark Sleboda, and Patrick Henningsen.

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 12:16

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Tom Watson tells Jeremy Corbyn he faces leadership challenge

27 minutes ago
From the section UK Politics

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Deputy Labour leader Tom Watson has told Jeremy Corbyn he has "no authority"
among Labour MPs and warned him he faces a leadership challenge.

The two men met after a spate of resignations from shadow cabinet.

The Labour leader launched a fightback on Monday morning, unveiling a new top
team after a fresh round of walkouts from shadow ministers.

Mr Corbyn, who was elected in September in a landslide victory, is facing a vote
of no confidence from Labour MPs.

Shadow business secretary Angela Eagle, Maria Eagle (defence) Lisa Nandy
(energy) and Owen Smith (work and pensions) are among the latest members
of the front bench to resign.

Mr Corbyn has pledged to stand in any new leadership election if there is a
formal challenge to his position.

read more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36638041

norman

27th June 2016, 14:14

sunwings

27th June 2016, 14:23

#ProjectWeToldYouSo

Within just three days a highly developed country leaves acrimoniously a huge trading area, wipes a few trillions off the world's stock markets, sees its government disappear in a puff and simultaneously misplaces its parliamentary opposition.

However I can´t help but ask myself... Is it possible that we are still on script? Has the timeline just been propelled?.

Mervyn King (ex Bank of England governor) Just said “If you say to someone ‘you’re an idiot if you don’t agree with me’ you’re not likely to bring them in your direction."

The Remain Campaign was either poorly executed or executed to perfection?

Carmody

27th June 2016, 14:42

Now there is a chance that ordinary people are in fact waking up and have had enough of being told they need to feel guilt for the colonial past and atone by allowing the hordes of resentful immigrants into the country and disrespect the culture, flip the bird at Anglo-Saxon-Celtic culture.

Now there is a chance that ordinary people are waking up to be responsible for the present neocolonial state of affairs and not be atone by allowing their military or economic force/financial power being projected into other countries.
Disrespect is a great part of our culture, that's what we teach other countries in the first place in very many cases.

Also the fact that at the core, everyone in the old merry England recognizes, on that fundamental level, that they are on an island.....and have no where to go.

No place to hide, means face the thing head on (As is eventually done) and clean this crap up.... and get it straight.

The meaning of isolation and confinement in a box, with with confrontational societal/structural issues is one of being forced to face the scenarios head on.

No where to run to, no where to hide, you are all collectively in a boxing ring with self important vicious nutbars, the eventual outcome is always the complete head-stomp on the nutbars. The smaller box in some ways... makes it easy for the nutbars to rise... but also spells their doom.

And this is the history of the island, for the past 2000 years.

The subliminal undercurrent of psychology 101, makes it so.

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 14:48

The Remain Campaign was either poorly executed or executed to perfection?

My mainstream head feels that most UK political elites have lost touch for decades and
this is the first real opportunity for the many to vent their frustration , only this time
it happened to be the majority. There have been close votes before on many topics
but the establishment has 'snuck' thru....

My conspiracy hat knows TPTB always have all bases covered and a little chaos has
never done them or the markets harm in the long term. There are several ways
this can go depending on public reaction etc. I'm sure this will be managed by
them somehow in the end...

animovado

27th June 2016, 15:21

Carmody

27th June 2016, 16:04

No where to run to, no where to hide, you are all collectively in a boxing ring with self important vicious nutbars, the eventual outcome is always the complete head-stomp on the nutbars.

I am just a poor boy
Though my story's seldom told,
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocket full of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

(The boxer, Paul Simon, 1. verse)

In the clearing stands a boxer,
And a fighter by his trade
And he carries the reminders
Of ev'ry glove that laid him down
or cut him till he cried out
In his anger and his shame,
"I am leaving, I am leaving."
But the fighter still remains (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1077626&viewfull=1#post1077626)

sheme

27th June 2016, 16:11

Just listening to Dave Cameron in question time in parliament, What a skillful chap he is - he will be missed- think on- he just may be on the side of the people. Wonder what Kerry is coming here on Monday for?

My taste for fizzy wine - champagne vrs Cava- Good Cava every time. £24 vrs £6. value for money why pay for a name? Euro fizz? hey soon we can grow our own>

The most prosperous European country is Switzerland and they are not a member of the EU!

Ewan

27th June 2016, 18:22

he will be missed

Not by me he won't. The idea that he might be on the side of the people is anathema to my every thought on the man.

I assume you are aware of The Bullingdon Club and what that is/means, that Cameron was a confirmed euro-sceptic until he gained No 10 and had his orders read to him by those that must not be named; finally, let's not forget the threat to porcine beasts all over the land.

In a sane world politicians would be the best of us, not the worst.

WildOrchid

27th June 2016, 21:46

"GLOBALISTS SPIRAL MOVE TO FORM SUPERSTATE"
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"EU leaders REFUSE to start informal talks with Britain and insist we formally trigger Brexit first as Angela Merkel warns other countries should be stopped from leaving"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662027/EU-stop-following-Britain-door-Merkel-warns-amid-market-fears-bloc-no-longer-governable-Brexit.html

In desperation, the EU talking heads must have all gone completely mad over the weekend....
I bet the French, Italian, Swedes, Dutch, Spanish people (etc) are just gona "love" their dictatoresse's great new plan! The more they try to stop or prevent them from leaving, the more they will want to leave! :ROFL:
We truly live in wild times! :p

Check out the Drudge headline here....
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Cidersomerset

27th June 2016, 22:09

Various vids and articles , a bit of a mixed bag of bewilderment and speculation.....

Leaked document: Germany and France to replace Brussels in charge of EU?

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Published on 27 Jun 2016

Document leaked by Polish media indicates Germanу and France could be taking matters
in their own hands without bothering to consult Brussels or any other EU countries.
Document claimed to be presented to Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia at
the meeting in Prague. It reportedly discloses intention to create 'superstate' within EU
with center of power split between Paris and Berlin.

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Petition for second EU referendum under scrutiny over fake signatures

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Published on 27 Jun 2016

Petition is being investigated for fraud as about 77K signatures seem to be fake or signed
by people who aren't British citizens: thousands from Vatican and North Korea. Marine le
Pen even posted a video where she managed to sign it under the name of Napoleon Bonaparte.

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Brexit: Labour turmoil and Tory leadership

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

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Scotland already preparing for new independence vote - Alex Salmond

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Published on 27 Jun 2016

Brexit is threatening to split not just the EU but also the UK itself. Scotland overwhelmingly
voted to remain in the European Union and is now refusing to give up its place in the bloc.
The Scottish leadership is now pushing for a new independence referendum from the UK.
Is a separation vote just around the corner? And does it have a better chance of succeeding
this time around? We ask the man who was the driving force behind the independence
referendum in Scotland in 2014, former First Minister of Scotland - Alex Salmond is on Sophie&Co today.

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Brexit: Cameron to face EU leaders after vote to leave

2 minutes ago

David Cameron is to meet European Union leaders for the first time since the UK
voted to leave.The UK prime minister will discuss the implications of the Brexit vote
and the way ahead at an EU summit in Brussels.German, French and Italian leaders
said on Monday there could be no "formal or informal" talks on a British exit at this stage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36647006

Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 09:06

'EU to push through full-blown superstate with last powers for countries deleted' - the plan from day one

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT Global Government, Political Manipulation

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However long it may take to reach the final goal of the EU fascist ‘project’ – that goal has been crystal clear
for decades to anyone who bothered to do their own research into this gathering nightmare. Leave voters
have protected the Remainers from the end of even lip-service to a sovereign Britain able to decide its own
destiny and control its own borders.

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European SUPERSTATE to be unveiled: EU nations 'to be morphed into one' post-Brexit

EUROPEAN political chiefs are to take advantage of Brexit by unveiling their long-held plan to
morph the continent’s countries into one GIANT SUPERSTATE, it has emerged yesterday.

By Nick Gutteridge
PUBLISHED: 02:01, Tue, Jun 28, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:45, Tue, Jun 28, 2016

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German Angela Merkel met with European heads today at the EU summit

The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do
away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal
law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Read more: ‘EU to push through full-blown superstate with last powers for countries deleted’ – the plan from day one

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

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Media Pushes ‘Ban’ On Old People Voting After Brexit

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT

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‘Older people were far more likely to vote to leave the European Union (EU), and
having lost the argument, supporters of Remain are blaming them, insult them and
even arguing their democratic rights should now be curtailed.

The demographic divide in last week’s vote was stark.

The more working class, poor, old and uneducated people are, statistically the more
likely they were to support Brexit. The more wealthy, metropolitan, young, urban
and educated, the higher is the chance they backed the EU bureaucracy.’

Read more: Media Pushes ‘Ban’ On Old People Voting After Brexit

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/27/media-calls-ban-old-people-voting-brexit-vote/

Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 09:10

Gerald Celente "The British People Have Rebelled Against The Cabal. Now For Italy, Spain & France!"

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Published on 28 Jun 2016

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Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 09:14

The Richie Allen Show on Davidicke.com: UKIP MEP Steven Woolfe -
The Establishment Will Try To Reverse Referendum Result. Don't Let Them'

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT

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Published on 28 Jun 2016
Please Support The Show – http://richieallen.co.uk/

sheme

28th June 2016, 09:20

Ewan Quote- on Dave Cameron "Not by me he won't. The idea that he might be on the side of the people is anathema to my every thought on the man".

Well time will tell- you must know all is not what it seems- perhaps he is just trying to keep his wife and family alive? It is not all about them or us or me. Perhaps he is just trying to keep the Brits alive?

Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 09:22

27th June 2016 LOU COLLINS DAVID ICKE

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Published on 27 Jun 2016

Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 11:05

We Just Witnessed The Greatest One Day Global Stock Market Loss In World History

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation The Money Scam

ACTIVIST POST.....

‘More stock market wealth was lost on Friday than on any other day in world
history. As you will see below, global investors lost two trillion dollars on the day
following the Brexit vote. And remember, this is on top of the trillions that global
investors have already lost over the past 12 months. It is important to understand
that the Brexit vote was not the beginning of a new crisis – it has simply
accelerated a global financial crisis that started last year and that was already in
the process of unfolding. As I noted on Friday, we have been waiting for “the next
Lehman Brothers moment” that would really unleash fear and panic globally, and
now we have it. The next six months should be absolutely fascinating to watch.

According to CNBC, the total amount of money lost on global stock markets on
Friday surpassed anything that we had ever seen before, and that includes the
darkest days of the financial crisis of 2008…’

Read more: We Just Witnessed The Greatest One Day Global Stock Market Loss In
World History

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/greatest-one-day-stock-market-loss.html

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Standard & Poor Strips UK of AAA Credit Rating

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT Corporate Crime, The Money Scam

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INDEPENDENT....

Standard & Poor’s Global Ratings stripped the U.K. of its pristine triple-A credit
rating on Monday, following through on its warning that last week’s vote to leave
the European Union threatens the country’s constitutional and economic integrity.

The firm, which cut the country’s ratings by two notches to double-A, also said the
vote for “remain” in Scotland and Northern Ireland creates wider constitutional
issues for the country as a whole.

Fitch Ratings followed suit, cutting the country’s ratings by one notch, also to double-A.

Read more: Standard & Poor Strips UK of AAA Credit Rating

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-credit-rating-downgraded-from-aaa-to-aa-by-standard-poor-following-brexit-vote-a7106341.html

Enola

28th June 2016, 11:21

I'm amazed by the sensation this has caused. I just saw our prime minister close to tears. Complete doomsday atmosphere.

Cidersomerset

28th June 2016, 11:25

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Farage tells EU Parliament: 'You're not laughing now'

1 hour ago

Nigel Farage has told a session of the European Parliament that "the little people"
had rejected "big politics" in order "to get their country back".

He said the UK now offered "a beacon of hope" across Europe for other countries
that wanted to leave the EU.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36650014

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Published on 28 Jun 2016

NIGEL FARAGE was today booed in the European Parliament as he told members they’d
never ‘had proper jobs’ and predicted Britain would not be the last member state to quit the EU

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Market turmoil eases after Brexit reaction

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT

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The fact that this man has not resigned from politics shows how he has no shame whatsoever. But then, it’s George Osborne, so we already knew that.

Read more: Market turmoil eases after Brexit reaction

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36648630

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Market pressure eases after Brexit rout

27 minutes ago

From the section Business

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Pressure has eased on UK financial markets after two days of turmoil in the wake of
the Brexit vote, with the FTSE 100 share index opening higher. In late morning
trading, the index was up 2.4% at 6,128.32, while the FTSE 250 had gained 2.9%.

The FTSE 100 lost 5.6% in the previous two trading sessions, while the more UK-
focused FTSE 250 had slumped 13.7%.

The pound also showed signs of recovery, rising 0.8% against the dollar to $1.3328.

The pound had risen as high as $1.50 shortly before the result of the vote became
clear on Friday morning.But on Monday, the currency plunged to a 31-year low
against the dollar, while some share trading was temporarily halted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36648630

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ECB Blows €400billion on 'Brexit Black Friday' Bank Bailouts

By David on 28 June 2016 GMT Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation The Money Scam

‘Remember TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program that the US Congress
approved to bail out banks and other companies during the Financial Crisis? $700
billion were authorized, later reduced to $475 billion. The Treasury eventually
dispersed $432 billion. I bring this up because the ECB bailed out the European
banks with more than TARP, in just one day: on Brexit Black Friday.’

Read more: ECB Blows €400billion on ‘Brexit Black Friday’ Bank Bailouts

http://wolfstreet.com/2016/06/26/ecb-spends-400-billion-on-brexit-black-friday-bank-bailout/

norman

28th June 2016, 14:16

All those angry youngsters could try dismantling what they really mean when they say the "un-educated" have screwed up their futures.

It's "un" something, but it's not "educated".

Hervé

28th June 2016, 14:48

Now Britain faces ‘Coloured revolution’ as Soros moves to stop Brexit (http://thesaker.is/now-britain-faces-coloured-revolution-as-soros-moves-to-stop-brexit/)

The Saker June 27, 2016

By Nick Griffin

The people of Britain are about to become the next victims of the ‘Coloured Revolution’ tactics used by Washington and Brussels against democratically elected governments from Serbia to Syria, from Ukraine to Brazil.

Within a few days of the British electorate’s totally unforeseen (including by this author!) grass-roots decision to defy Establishment bullying and waves of MSM propaganda to vote for Brexit, the counter move of the globalists is already becoming clear.

First, a concerted attack on sterling and leading shares to apply financial pressure and justify the self-fulfilling prophesies of gloom and doom of the defeated Remain camp.

Second, massive psychological pressure organised by ‘civil society’ organisations, such as Avaaz masquerading as grass-roots social media protests but in fact funded by Foundations financed by George Soros. The spear-point of this propaganda campaign is at present the petition for a Second Referendum, which has already passed the three million mark, even when tens of thousands of bogus signatures have been identified and removed.

Third, the use of other ‘civil society’ groups, including SumOfUs and 38 Degrees, to conducted rolling polls of ‘progressive’ public opinion so as to ascertain which themes and attacks on Brexit will be the most effective. This is a key technique taught in ‘color revolution’ training course modelled on the proposals of Gene Sharp and now honed by John Carlane, liberal globalist former British Army officer turned head of the Peace Education and Training Repository.

Fourth, the mobilisation of crowds of angry and clearly violence-prone protesters in London and other key cities. Despite the fact that many on the British far-left campaigned for Brexit, gangs carrying Communist and anarchist flags are out on the streets. They are supposedly to defend ethnic minorities (many of whom in fact voted alongside their indigenous working class counterparts for Brexit) but have already been involved in attacks on known or suspected Brexiteers.

Fifth, the CIA/liberal elite’s retained propaganda corps of bought-and-paid-for journalists are lying and twisting flat out to exploit all the above. The aim is to frighten ‘soft’ Brexit voters into changing their minds and to build up momentum for a drive to use the autumn’s expected General Election as a de facto Second Referendum.

The purpose of this hybrid political war on the British majority is to derail the whole Brexit process and keep Britain in the EU (or at least to turn leaving into such a shambles that no other country will dare to follow suite).

This explains why Prime Minister Cameron has already broken his promise during the referendum that, in the event of a Leave vote, he would immediately trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty in order to set Brexit in motion. It is now blatantly obvious that the Europhile elite have no intention of allowing such a minor inconvenience as the democratically expressed will of the British people to disrupt the process of ‘ever closer Union’ or of the geo-political ‘necessity’ of keeping the EU united for the deepening confrontation with Russia.

In advance of last Thursday’s vote, the Brussels-rule camp pulled out all the stops, with multi-levelled frauds and the ruthless exploitation of the murder of Jo Cox looking certain to secure a manipulated but unquestionable Remain vote.

Despite the failure of the campaign, a vociferous minority of hardcore Europhiles, led at present by Tory grandee Lord Heseltine and ‘moderate’ Labour and LibDem MPs such as David Lammy and Tim Farron, are not going to accept the verdict of the referendum.

Instead, they are trying desperately to give the liberal elite the nerve and confidence for their biggest ever display of out-of-touch arrogance – denying the British people the right to have their Brexit decision implemented.

Will they get away with it? Or will the response of ordinary people as they realise what is going on be so outraged as to convince the Europhiles that, being already in a massive hole, it really is time to stop digging? I don’t know. I simply don’t know. But there is no doubt that this is their game plan. Don’t expect stability and certainty any time soon.

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The people of Britain are about to become the next victims of the ‘Coloured Revolution’ tactics used by Washington and Brussels against democratically elected governments from Serbia to Syria, from Ukraine to Brazil.... that's following a template plan set afoot long before 1938 when it saw the light of day:

Rakovsky appears to use the tactic of "deceiving with the truth." He wins trust by revealing the truth but leaves some out. He impresses his interrogator that he and Trotsky represent an invincible power he calls the "Capitalist-Communist Financial International."

He confirms that the "revolutionary movement" was designed to enlist support by pretending to serve mankind's moral and collective ideals. The real aim however is to give total world power to the bankers by dividing society and undermining established authority.

"Revolution" really means, "overturning" Western civilization.

"Christianity is our only real enemy since all the political and economic phenomena of the bourgeois states are only its consequences," Rakovsky, says. (All page citations from Griffin, Fourth Reich of the Rich, 1988, p. 264)

Peace is "counter-revolutionary" since it is war that paves the way for revolution.

Excerpted from "The Red Symphony (http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html)" - "The Midnight Interrogation Jan. 26, 1938"

... doesn't help alleviate the mixed feelings I have about the whole thing...

araucaria

28th June 2016, 19:21

Yea-BUT !

Here's a scenario I dread.

The REMAIN crowd have got a Labor Party in tatters. It's mostly lefties who were remain, I think.

They could reconstitute the Labor Party as their own vehicle to take power in Westminster and stop the activation of Article 50.

How and why ?.... simple.

A huge number of traditional Labor voters voted for OUT. IF they are presented with a general election this autumn that is a choice between a Labor party committed to stopping BREXIT in it's tracks, and a Conservative Party committed to Brexit, I really don't think many of them will switch sides and vote Conservative for the first time in their lives.

edit to add:

Ask yourselves this question....

Exactly WHY did the Labor Party collapse in a heap as soon as the result was announced?

and.....

Nick Clegg ( Liberal Democrat ) has already been screaming from the rooftops for a general election BEFORE Brexit is activated.
Hi Norman. I think you are confusing two different things: the Parliamentary Labour Party in rebellion against Corbyn, and the grassroots membership, which is hugely behind him – 60% backing him only 9 months ago; apparently many joined expressly in order to vote him in and the membership has increased massively since his election. The Labour Party has changed, returned to its roots, from being the Blairite-Thatcherite New Labour back to a party representing ordinary working people. That is why the party is now under attack, ahead of the Leave campaigners, and ahead of the present defeated government. Three or four days ago (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91509-The-UK-Brexit-vote-to-leave-the-EU&p=1077161&viewfull=1#post1077161), I posted why I thought Corbyn was the man to lead a post-referendum UK. So I am very unsurprised that he should come under such heavy attack now.

Edit: wrong thread; or not.

norman

28th June 2016, 19:42

araucaria

28th June 2016, 20:46

Edit: wrong thread; or not.

I nearly made that post in this thread in the first place, anyway.

What we don't know IS, how many of those people who joined Labor to support Corbyn, are IN or OUT people.
Sure, but what we do know is that there are many many more grassroots people than elitists. That is mere pleonasm: what the words mean. The ‘trouble’ with a referendum is that every vote counts equally: once back to general elections and especially party politics, that is the notion that goes out of the window. The bottom line and ‘problem’ with the referendum is that there were more OUTs than INs – the only possible outcome if the EU is undemocratic, simply because every vote counts. If you ask the people in a democracy who is supposed to be in charge, they are going to say ‘We are’. And if that comes as a shock, then it is merely proof of your pseudo-democracy. A referendum smoothes out all the errors: kids too young to remember, old folks too old to understand the needs of youth, over-influential Londoners, under-influential nameless jobless nobodies; you can factor in all the hypocrites, the tactical voters, the protest voters and the Freudian slippers, but the end result establishes incontrovertibly that there is a democracy deficit: override it at your peril.

Ellisa

29th June 2016, 07:12

I agree with a lot you have said araucaria, but I think the problem is that if you allow the phrase "kids too young to remember" it should be followed by "folks too old to forget". There is a lot that old people still remember that would predispose them to vote against remaining in Europe, and I feel that these memories would be more real than a sort of vague failure to "understand the needs of youth". Perhaps if more than 40% of youth had voted the result may have been more to their liking.

However I agree wholeheartedly with your statement that overriding the the limit of democracy is not only perilous but also unpredictable. Hence this result becomes unsurprising!

sunwings

29th June 2016, 07:34

All those angry youngsters could try dismantling what they really mean when they say the "un-educated" have screwed up their futures.

It's "un" something, but it's not "educated".

Youngsters are quick to forget their history!

sheme

29th June 2016, 07:41

I voted to get out to save our kids- we have lost enough young lives on the fields of Europe, they can make their money with their own perspiration blood and fury.
Proposed New EU army kept hidden from electors until the day after vote, I am proud to say Iv'e helped UK get out of WW111 front line- Damn their blood lust- may their contempt for our freedom consume them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR-RDqrHWQw

Star Tsar

29th June 2016, 11:06

The Kev Baker Show

Chris Everard & UKIP Insider - The Shocking Truth Behind The BREXIT Conspiracy

Published 29/6/2016

Join Chris Everard & A UKIP insider to learn about the shocking truth behind the BREXIT conspiracy.

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Cidersomerset

29th June 2016, 11:11

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UK shares and pound continue to recover

38 minutes ago

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UK shares and the pound have continued to regain some of the ground lost in the wake of the Brexit vote.

After rising 2.6% on Tuesday, the FTSE 100 share index was up 2.1% at 6,271.48 by mid-morning.

The pound rose 0.3% against the dollar to $1.3383, although sterling still remains well below levels
reached before the referendum.

Analysts also warned that the rally of the past couple of days might be short-lived.

"Stocks and the pound are continuing to firm but the post-Brexit reality will bite sooner or later,"
said Joe Rundle, head of trading at ETX Capital.

"What we're seeing in the FTSE is hope in Britain being able to ride it out by remaining part of the
single market. This looks like wishful thinking."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36660133

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Brexit: Spain and France oppose Scotland EU talks

1 hour ago

The French president and Spanish prime minister have both said they are opposed
to the EU negotiating potential membership for Scotland.Spanish premier Mariano
Rajoy said he "believes everyone is extremely against it" and that "if the UK leaves,
Scotland leaves". President Francois Hollande of France insisted the EU would make
no advance deal with Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36656980

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Published on 29 Jun 2016

The Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has been in Brussels today, meeting
with European leaders. Sturgeon wants to keep Scotland in the EU, hinting that to
achieve that, another referendum on Scottish independence from the UK could be
held. RT's Peter Oliver has more.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset

29th June 2016, 11:23

Various speculative articles from the headline page....

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London Mayor Sadiq Khan demands more autonomy for pro-EU capital after Brexit

By David on 29 June 2016 GMT

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RT NEWS....

London Mayor Sadiq Khan demands more autonomy for pro-EU capital after Brexit

Published time: 28 Jun, 2016 08:54

Edited time: 28 Jun, 2016 12:50

Short vid on link...
https://www.rt.com/uk/348657-sadiq-khan-london-brexit/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

‘London Mayor Sadiq Khan has demanded more autonomy for Britain’s capital in
the wake of the UK’s vote for Brexit last Thursday. His statement comes after a
petition to make the capital an independent city-state attracted 175,000 signatures.
Khan, who became London’s first Muslim mayor last month, told an audience of top
business leaders that the city must “take back control.”

He said that he wants to protect the city’s “jobs, wealth and prosperity,” but
dismissed the idea of making London an independent state.

“As much as I might like the idea of a London city state, I’m not seriously talking
about independence today. I am not planning to install border points on the M25!,” he said.’

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Read more: London Mayor Sadiq Khan demands more autonomy for pro-EU capital after

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Britain Is Not Going to Leave The EU Anytime Soon

By David on 29 June 2016 GMT

Britain Is Not Going to Leave The EU Anytime Soon
June 29, 2016 / Gilad Atzmon

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/6/29/britain-is-not-going-to-leave-the-eu-anytime-soon

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‘No notification, no negotiation’: EU officials banned from Brexit talks with Britain

Jun 28, 2016
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Tories 'Strong Economic Medicine', Greater Austerity Following UK Brexit Vote

By David on 29 June 2016 GMT

Tories “Strong Economic Medicine”, Greater Austerity Following UK Brexit Vote
By Stephen Lendman

Global Research, June 28, 2016

http://www.globalresearch.ca/tories-strong-economic-medicine-greater-austerity-following-uk-brexit-vote/5533212

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34 Separate Referendums Called For Across Europe as Backlash Against the EU Spreads

By David on 29 June 2016 GMT Activism, Political Manipulation

Mail online.....

'Britain got the first shot in': French far-right leader Marine Le Pen says 'politicians
are afraid' amid calls for THIRTY FOUR separate EU referendums across Europe
Eurosceptic parties across continent will now demand their own OUT poll
Italy's 5-Star movement has called for a referendum on retaining the euro
France's Marine Le Pen said today Brexit was 'victory for democracy'
Hungary's Viktor Orban has called a referendum on the influx of refugees

By Chris Summers For Mailonline

Political parties across the Europe have called for some 34 seperate referendums on
both membership of the EU and the Eurozone in a backlash against the European
Union following the UK’s Brexit vote.

Read more: 34 Separate Referendums Called For Across Europe as Backlash
Against the EU Spreads

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A survey by the Pew Research Center suggested that Poland is the most
enthusiastic member of the EU

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Enola

29th June 2016, 12:39

I didn't realise what a big deal this was at first. But today I felt a real sense of relief. Everyone are looking so miserable something right must be happening.

Hervé

29th June 2016, 14:13

French Would Vote to Leave EU if Frexit Referendum Took Place (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160629/1042146183/france-brexit-journalist.html)

Sputnik Europe (http://sputniknews.com/europe/) 14:38 29.06.2016
(updated 15:48 29.06.2016)

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In an article for Le Figaro, French journalist and author Maxime Tandonnet recalled that a recent poll revealed that 61 percent of the French were reserved towards the European Union.

The author sees the Brexit vote as a protest against the technocratic Europe and as a referendum for democracy. "Everyone knows it but no one says it. If a similar vote was held in France the results would be the same," he wrote (http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/politique/2016/06/24/31001-20160624ARTFIG00090-brexit-pourquoi-les-francais-auraient-vote-comme-les-anglais.php).

A recent survey in France revealed that 61 percent of the respondents were reserved towards the EU. This fact should be considered as a protest against the European bureaucracy that ignores the interests of various European nations. The discontent has been deepened by the refugee crisis and a Turkey-EU deal on migrants.

The so-called "Frexit" has been actively discussed in France after the results of the British vote were revealed. Leader of the National Front party, Marine Le Pen was quick to propose a referendum on France’s membership in the EU.

"I'll be Madame Frexit if the European Union doesn't give us back our monetary, legislative, territorial and budget sovereignty," she said.

"The Brexit vote was a response to the blindness of the EU political and economic elite. Since the Maastricht Treaty was signed in 1992 Brussels has been responding in the same manner to the discontent of Europeans. It means more federalism, more bureaucracy, more regulations, and more rules by the European Court," Tandonnet pointed out.

The results of the vote are a protest against the hegemony of political elite ignoring people’s needs, he added. World leaders and European officials warned Britons over economic turmoil and isolation but they could not make people change their mind.

In this context, the French are not that difficult from the British. In 2005, France said no to the EU centralization at a referendum on the European constitution. The British government took the risk and asked a question to the people. In fact, the Britons voted on behalf of all European nations.

"Brussels and European media would try to reduce the British vote to populism and the far-right ideology. And the response will once again be 'more Europe' and 'more integration'. The political elite would insist that Brexit is a good chance for the federal Europe," the article read.

According to the author, the essential meaning of Brexit is not about nationalism and isolationism but about preserving democracy from the "imperialism of the Brussels bureaucracy." "Britain is the birthplace of parliamentarian democracy. By voting to leave the EU, the British people stood for sovereignty and democracy," Tandonnet noted.

However, France, like Britain or any other EU nation sees the common European history and common cultural values.

"Any of these countries is interested in being united. Europeans are not again the existence of a union in Europe. They are against the dictate of regulations and norms ignoring people’s will. Brexit is a vote for democracy," he concluded.

Earlier, renowned French political thinker Bernard-Henri Levy also suggested that France would vote to withdraw from the EU if it held a referendum.

"If there was a referendum in France, they would probably vote to exit," he said in an interview (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/france-would-vote-to-leave-eu-if-it-held-a-referendum-says-count/) with Daily Telegraph.

According to the philosopher, the integration project has been undermined by bureaucrats who have turned Europe into a place with no room for "dreams and ideas and values."

"One of the problems of Europe — which is the explanation for this populist reaction like a Brexit — is that this Europe is not desired any longer. And it does not create desire. This is because the pattern it shows is so sad, so grey, so technical and so technocratic," Levy said.

Related:
Le Pen: Hollande Says 'Non' to Frexit Referendum (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160626/1041979013/lepen-hollande-france-eu-referendum.html)
Polish PM: France, Germany Unable to Offer Strategies to EU After Brexit (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160627/1042046327/france-germany-nothing-eu-brexit.html)
Renzi, Hollande Call For Reforming EU After Brexit (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160627/1042042172/renzi-hollande-eu-reform.html)

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With the quoting of "philosopher" Bernard-Henri Lévy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard-Henri_L%C3%A9vy), the mixed feelings about the whole thing came back when considering Levy's "friends":

Alain Soral – World pedophile rings? Protected by politicians and judges? (http://laura-knight-jadczyk.com/2014/04/10/lain-soral-world-pedophile-rings-protected-by-politicians-and-judges/)
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Psychopath Bernard-Henry Lévy said publicly that paedophilia has become a “taboo”, and that people should stop labeling “different behavior” as “bad”. (Sick pervert!)
[...]
... Bernard-Henry Lévy is also the guy who claims Dieudonné to be an anti-semite but goes to Ukraine (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68676-Current-situation-in-Ukraine-a-warning.&p=800406&viewfull=1#post800406) to support the fascists' coup... go figure... pure, no-shame psychopathy!

Hervé

29th June 2016, 15:50

The Prison Of Peoples - France's Le Pen Calls For European 'Spring' (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-29/prison-peoples-frances-le-pen-calls-european-spring)

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) Jun 29, 2016 11:15 AM

Marine Le Pen writes a powerful argument for nationalism and the end of the EU (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/opinion/marine-le-pen-after-brexit-the-peoples-spring-is-inevitable.html?_r=0) in the New York Times:
The European Union has become a prison of peoples.
Each of the 28 countries that constitute it has slowly lost its democratic prerogatives to commissions and councils with no popular mandate. Every nation in the union has had to apply laws it did not want for itself. Member nations no longer determine their own budgets. They are called upon to open their borders against their will.

Countries in the eurozone face an even less enviable situation. In the name of ideology, different economies are forced to adopt the same currency, even if doing so bleeds them dry. It’s a modern version of the Procrustean bed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procrustes), and the people no longer have a say.

And what about the European Parliament? It’s democratic in appearance only, because it’s based on a lie: the pretense that there is a homogeneous European people, and that a Polish member of the European Parliament has the legitimacy to make law for the Spanish. We have tried to deny the existence of sovereign nations. It’s only natural that they would not allow being denied.

Brexit wasn’t the European people’s first cry of revolt.
In 2005, France and the Netherlands held referendums about the proposed European Union constitution. In both countries, opposition was massive, and other governments decided on the spot to halt the experiment for fear the contagion might spread. A few years later, the European Union constitution was forced on the people of Europe anyway, under the guise of the Lisbon Treaty. In 2008, Ireland, also by way of referendum, refused to apply that treaty. And once again, a popular decision was brushed aside.

When in 2015 Greece decided by referendum to reject Brussels’ austerity plans, the European Union’s antidemocratic response took no one by surprise: To deny the people’s will had become a habit. In a flash of honesty, the president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, unabashedly declared, “There can be no democratic choice against the European treaties.”

Brexit may not have been the first cry of hope, but it may be the people’s first real victory.
With eloquent nationalist leaders like her, Viktor Orban, and Matteo Salvini, among others there is reason to believe it will not be the last one. The EU is immoral, unnatural, anti-democratic, and evil. The sooner it collapses, the better off everyone will be.

The globalists are the Nazis of the 30s and 40s and the Communists of the Cold War. They are the enemy of Man. As Le Pen aptly notes, "more and more, the destiny of the European Union resembles the destiny of the Soviet Union, which died from its own contradictions."
One thing is certain: Britain’s departure from the European Union will not make the union more democratic. The hierarchical structure of its supranational institutions will want to reinforce itself: Like all dying ideologies, the union knows only how to forge blindly ahead. The roles are already cast — Germany will lead the way, and France will obligingly tag along.

Here is a sign: President François Hollande of France, Prime Minister Matteo Renzi of Italy and acting Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy of Spain take their lead directly from Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany, without running through Brussels. A quip attributed to Henry Kissinger, “Who do I call if I want to call Europe?” now has a clear answer: Call Berlin.

So the people of Europe have but one alternative left: to remain bound hand-and-foot to a union that betrays national interests and popular sovereignty and that throws our countries wide open to massive immigration and arrogant finance, or to reclaim their freedom by voting.

sheme

29th June 2016, 16:27

RT- Kerry said "There are ways to roll back the Brexit result", "We can walk it back" says Kerry. Damn them again- who's going to Londinium To resist this foreign interference - dictatorship. How bloody dare they! I'm going to fetch my balls back if I have to.

sheme

29th June 2016, 18:03

Here we go - Americas reason to "help" the " EU Remains." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfDTqYr7Ww

Remember to stay gray peeps.

Cidersomerset

29th June 2016, 20:09

CrossTalk on Brexit: EU implosion?

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Published on 29 Jun 2016

Post-Brexit realities and challenges: What will the European Union do now – reform
itself or double down? Will Brussels take on what is called the democracy deficit?
And is there such a thing as an amicable political divorce? CrossTalking with Liam
Halligan, Mary Dejevsky, and George Szamuely.

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Corbyn to face Labour leadership challenge from Angela Eagle

17 minutes ago
From the section UK Politics

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Angela Eagle is believed to have the support of the 51 MPs and MEPs needed to
mount a challenge. Angela Eagle will challenge Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour
leadership on Thursday, the BBC has been told.It is understood the former shadow
business secretary has the support of the 51 MPs needed to mount a challenge.
Ms Eagle is one of 20 members of the shadow cabinet to have quit since Sunday,
which led to MPs passing a motion of no confidence in Mr Corbyn.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36667795

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Nigel Farage We need to trigger article 50 now

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Published on 28 Jun 2016
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norman

29th June 2016, 20:41

Wouldn't it be amazing if the EU instructed every member state to have an exit referendum, and we could see, for sure, who wants to be IN and who wants to be OUT.

There might no longer be a Euro-Dream for the remain crowd to shout about.

sheme

29th June 2016, 20:59

RT - Gets admission from American DR Paul Craig Roberts that EU is a CIA construct to enable American control that reports to America! Bound to be on the tube shortly.

norman

29th June 2016, 21:02

RT - Gets admission from American DR Paul Craig Roberts that EU is a CIA construct that reports to America!

And America is a European construct, so it goes full circle back to whoever is pulling the strings in Europe.

sheme

29th June 2016, 21:34

The EU leaders know they would be punished by really bad weather for years, I am sort of waiting for a serious storm or two for voting out, Like a slap across the face of defiance.

norski

30th June 2016, 01:10

Here is a perspicacious article, IMO. N

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2937-brexit-aftermath-heres-what-will-happen-next

norman

30th June 2016, 02:26

If the polling companies were in on an elitist syndicate, they might ALL have known for at least a full week before the vote that the OUT side was miles ahead of the IN side.

For all we know, they may still have fiddled the vote to make it a close finish, for maximum social strife after the result.

araucaria

30th June 2016, 06:12

RT - Gets admission from American DR Paul Craig Roberts that EU is a CIA construct to enable American control that reports to America! Bound to be on the tube shortly.
Not so much an admission as an informed disclosure.

We know from the horse’s mouth that the CIA is not well pleased with Brexit:
“Brexit crisis contributing to 'daunting' US security challenges, CIA director says”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/29/john-brennan-cia-brexit-crisis-eu
And we know from Paul Craig Roberts that (one sample at least of) the military voted massively to leave:

Information continues to come in about the Brexit vote. A member of the British Army said that 90% of the lads in his unit voted to leave. They voted exit because they do not believe they should be involved in Washingtons wars. He said that his unit agreed that the wars are dictated by Washington, via Brussels, and not by the British people. He also said that that the soldiers were “taking their own pen” to the ballot box, because “they only use pencils at the polls and they could be rubbed out and changed.” http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/24/more-on-brexit-paul-craig-roberts/

sheme

30th June 2016, 10:56

Here is a perspicacious article, IMO. N

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/2937-brexit-aftermath-heres-what-will-happen-next
Pure conjecture you understand...

Now what if it's the USA that engineers it's long predicted crash now, Obama could declare Marshal Law and cancel the elections for foreseeable future, round up and neutralise the so called dissenters- and blame every thing on the UK's selfish behavior. This would also provides elite with a great excuse to enter every home and remove all the money gold and valuables like they did before in the US- all in the name of protecting Americans. It may be a good time to get some pasta and seeds in. We know well if they jump around in front of us- we should watch our backs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZ9EIOQzXU#t=309.377266

sheme

30th June 2016, 11:51

Boris backs out of leadership race! Michael Gove to stand for PM. I am pleased about this.

Cidersomerset

30th June 2016, 11:59

Boris backs out of leadership race! Michael Gove to stand for PM. I am pleased about this.

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Johnson pulls out of Tory leader race

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

Cidersomerset

30th June 2016, 12:10

Old Doesn't Mean Stupid And Young Doesn't Mean Know It All - The David Icke Videocast/Podcast Trailer

By David on 30 June 2016 GMT

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Walking it back? There are ways UK can reverse Brexit results – Kerry

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Published on 29 Jun 2016

Politicians across the Atlantic are also not shying away from voicing their
opinions on the Brexit vote. The US secretary of state even went so far as
to say there are ways to reverse the result. RT's Laura Smith has more.

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EU foreign policy chief opens way for long-planned EU Army
- 'Europeans we must take greater responsibility for our security'

By David on 30 June 2016 GMT

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I have been writing about the plan for an EU Army – to eventually
be part of the World Army structure – since the mid-1990s. Prime
Minister David Cameron said this would not happen during the
Brexit campaign lie-fest but he knows that is exactly what is being
manipulated into place.

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EU Army on way? EU cannot rely on NATO and needs new defence
policy says Brussels chief

THE European Union cannot rely on NATO to protect its member
states from external threats and must develop a policy of collective
defence that allows it to "act autonomously if and when necessary".

By Tom Batchelor
PUBLISHED: 04:00, Thu, Jun 30, 2016 | UPDATED: 07:21, Thu, Jun 30, 2016

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EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini

According to a new foreign policy document from the Brussels-based
institution to be handed to EU leaders next week, a "credible European
defence" is also essential to preserve good relations with the US.

EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini's Global Strategy document
states that "as Europeans we must take greater responsibility for our security".

Read more: EU foreign policy chief opens way for long-planned EU Army
– ‘Europeans we must take greater responsibility for our security’
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/684549/EU-cannot-rely-NATO-needs-new-defence-policy-chief

sheme

30th June 2016, 12:14

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/politics-brexit-unlawful-eu-uk Here we go Obama/CIA has spoken.

mgray

30th June 2016, 12:15

My take (http://wp.me/ppklu-zK) on the market reaction on Brexit. It's all central bank enabled.

norman

30th June 2016, 13:05

Today, I can feel the political talk in UK returning to the same old carve up of nobbled options.

Kerry says "We can walk it back".

The top parliamentarians are quietly doing it. Walking it, first, as far away from a raw referendum vote as they can. Then they'll re package it as a Party contest. Then they'll put it to the country and the people will vote along party lines again. Old party loyalties will then finish off Brexit.

The referendum was special. It caused traditional voters to freely express their wishes unencumbered by party loyalties. It is that very phenomenon that the political elite are going to sneakily and quietly suffocate with their magic pillow.

The only person who can sign a document activating article 50 of the Lisbon treaty is a British Prime Minister. Isn't it interesting that current 'circumstances' are making sure that there isn't one anywhere near ready to sign it.

angelfire

30th June 2016, 17:09

norman

30th June 2016, 17:21

Women, blacks and gays are the cabal's flavor of the millenium, it seems. They like how easy it is to cast off all criticism as coming from a retard' mentality, and then how easy it is to mobilize rent-a-mobs against the critics, and make that the issue in the media.

It took Theresa May 3 goes at coming up with a person to run an inquiry into historic sex abuse. Not a great start, me thinks.

angelfire

30th June 2016, 18:32

The thing about Boris is that he could possibly have united the country around Brexit - something the elite definitely don't want.........or maybe I've got it all wrong!

Cidersomerset

30th June 2016, 20:13

This has been one of the major side issues of the referendum.....

Scrapping NATO? EU looks to create own military to face off against external threats

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Published on 30 Jun 2016
The EU's foreign policy chief has called for a collective defense force in Europe - one,
that's not reliant on NATO. The idea of an EU army was outlined in Brussels' latest
global strategy document, RT's Lizzie Phelan and Lode Vanoost, journalist and a
Former Deputy Speaker of the Belgian Parliament have more.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

sunwings

30th June 2016, 20:37

Theresa May looks set to be the next PM and she is undoubtedly up to her neck in dark murkiness. I can't help but wonder what pressure was put on Boris to withdraw his nomination - was he blackmailed?

He is good at blackmailing himself...:highfive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcgrZs4GXv4

Cidersomerset

30th June 2016, 21:36

Boris Johnson's dad : Et tu Brute ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36677450

As I said earlier I did a fun thread back in 2012 about Boris and
if he did become leader of the concervatives and pm , I was going
to do an update , but I will hold off with that for now...LOL

Bojo v Barack? New York-born Boris says he could be President Johnson

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46650-Bojo-v-Barack-New-York-born-Boris-says-he-could-be-President-Johnson&p=511064#post511064

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They discuss the Boris / Gove break up.....

Newsnight..30/06/2016

In-depth investigation and analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines, with Evan Davis.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbctwo

Agape

30th June 2016, 23:02

The world consists of Leavers and Homers . Homers want to stay home and leavers want to leave .. homers naturally want leavers to leave . And so they support each other so also there's more leavers at all times if you give people the vote

Then there are Fools playing pools and power game

and then there's always something on the channels

I think they should abscond as one man and invite the teachers, the doctors , priests and scientists .

Make it the Best Brexit in the World :Party:

*Although Homers are generally be-leavers so beware who is who :bigsmile: And leavers tend to be Homer's.

giovonni

1st July 2016, 01:54

will share this here ...

a new europe

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bluestflame

1st July 2016, 05:38

ha ha , karma , aka "the law of right whack "

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1st July 2016, 07:21

Here she comes...

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Theresa May launches Tory leadership bid with pledge to unite country (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/30/theresa-may-launches-tory-leadership-bid-with-pledge-to-unite-country)

KiwiElf

1st July 2016, 07:36

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/politics-brexit-unlawful-eu-uk Here we go Obama/CIA has spoken.

Obama's "speak" doesn't mean much these days ;)

Baby Steps

1st July 2016, 13:02

THE LIGHTER SIDE......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hNzbDP9ll4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfqSFQlDae8&feature=share&app=desktop

Cidersomerset

1st July 2016, 13:19

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UK shares push higher on Carney speech
1 hour ago

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UK shares have risen for a third day, after Bank of England governor
Mark Carney hinted at fresh stimulus measures following the Brexit vote.

By lunchtime, the FTSE 100 index was 0.7% higher, while the FTSE 250
was higher by 0.08%.

On Thursday, Mr Carney said a deteriorating outlook meant action from
the Bank was likely this summer.

Wall Street rose for the third straight day on Thursday, with the Dow Jones
closing up 1.33% and S&P 500 up 1.36%.

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norman

1st July 2016, 14:20

I think the Queen wanted this raw referendum result.

But,,,,,,

I think she didn't want it for the same reason I or we did.

The parting of the ways, throughout the pending negotiations, is inevitable, if we don't make a conscious effort to maintain elite clout working for us.

edit to add:

The more I think about it, the more I think we should persuade Boris Johnson to get back in the fight.

Hervé

1st July 2016, 20:14

To the rescue? 60,000 join Labour in 1 week as party’s MPs launch anti-Corbyn coup (https://www.rt.com/uk/349118-labour-corbyn-membership-coup/)

RT (https://www.rt.com/uk/349118-labour-corbyn-membership-coup/) Published time: 1 Jul, 2016 10:56

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Leader of the opposition Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn delivers a speech to supporters at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) in central London on June 29, 2016. © Niklas Hallen / Reuters

Tens of thousands of new supporters have joined the Labour Party in the past week, despite two thirds of the Parliamentary party launching a coup against left-wing leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Labour Party officials claim that 60,000 new members have joined the party since the EU referendum results were announced last Friday.

The figure is said to represent one of the fastest rises in membership of any political party in British history.

The surge puts Labour’s new total member base at 450,000 – higher than its last peak of 440,000 under former Prime Minister Tony Blair.

This figure dwarfs other political parties in the UK, with the Liberal Democrats currently fairing at around 70,000 members and the last available Conservative membership figures putting the total at 134,000.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/631140212928724992/E89GW_Ee_bigger.jpg RT UK ‏@RTUKnews (https://twitter.com/RTUKnews)

Labour grassroots mobilize to #KeepCorbyn (https://twitter.com/hashtag/KeepCorbyn?src=hash) after mass resignations https://www.rt.com/uk/348547-labour-coup-corbyn-protest/ … (https://t.co/1ISxzEBbEy)

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Of the new intake, 20,000 have been checked and more than half are said to have joined to support Corbyn in a potential leadership challenge.

Momentum has claimed that thousands of new recruits marked their membership forms with support for the leader.

However, a source working to recruit “progressive” MPs to counter the Corbyn-inspired Momentum movement told the Independent they are confident thousands of new members want to see the Labour leader removed.

Centrist ‘Blairite’ groups such as Labour First and Progress are understood to be working with grassroots campaigners to encourage new members who want to see a new leader.

The coup was mounted after the Labour leader sacked shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn for organizing a secret plot on WhatsApp to oust Corbyn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/631140212928724992/E89GW_Ee_bigger.jpg RT UK ‏@RTUKnews (https://twitter.com/RTUKnews)

Rebelling Labour MPs will vote on Corbyn 'no confidence' motion today http://on.rt.com/7h1b (https://t.co/fM0PHGAAjs)

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Following his dismissal in the early hours of Sunday morning, Labour shadow cabinet members resigned hourly throughout the day in order to dominate the news headlines.

More than 50 of the shadow cabinet have now resigned and 172 Labour MPs said in a secret ballot that they had no confidence in Corbyn. Some 40 MPs backed the beleaguered leader.

Despite the Parliamentary Labour Party’s (PLP) attempts to oust Corbyn, more than 240 local Labour councilors signed a letter pledging their continued support for him.
The 246 councilors said they are “dismayed” with MPs actions in the wake of the EU referendum result.

“It would be utterly self-defeating for the people we represent if now, less than a year after Jeremy was elected on the single biggest mandate of any previous leader, he was to be forced from office,” the letter reads.

“It is our view that the behaviour of some members of the Parliamentary Labour Party is totally self-indulgent and at odds with what the communities we represent need.

“We will risk losing all those new members and enthusiastic campaigners who joined us because Jeremy offered a vision of hope for the future.”

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