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shiva777
12th December 2010, 02:05
LOL...what a thread Title eh!!...

...this woman has been srcutinised intensely and her stories stand up to rigorous investigation

Caution..this is not for the squeamish or many of the "la de da love and lighters"

Mind Control Victim Cathy O Brien speaks of her torture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yePYyba_Uw&feature=related

see all parts here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWO_jrC9qis&feature=related

thinwhitejimmy
12th December 2010, 10:32
forced? hilary is a fox!!

Dragonfly
12th December 2010, 10:45
Caution..this is not for the squeamish or many of the "la de da love and lighters"


Thank you for the warning Shiva777 - I really want to confirm this! This information can be very disturbing for your mind and can also cause damage of a certain degree to your consciousness. I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to her, or you shouldn't read her book.
If you consume this content, please try to go on a higher perspective. Try to leave the human level.

Kind regards,
Dragonfly

lightblue
12th December 2010, 11:11
Thank you for the warning Shiva777 - I really want to confirm this! This information can be very disturbing for your mind and can also cause damage of a certain degree to your consciousness. I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to her, or you shouldn't read her book.
If you consume this content, please try to go on a higher perspective. Try to leave the human level.

Kind regards,
Dragonfly


. . .:unsure: l


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witchy1
12th December 2010, 11:28
forced? hilary is a fox!!

*grabs bowl - vomits*

bluestflame
12th December 2010, 12:04
cunning as a fox maybe

John Parslow
12th December 2010, 12:35
More like a rabid Wolf ins sheep's clothes ...

KosmicKat
12th December 2010, 13:52
silly moment: is it true that sheep wear only 100% wool?:o

Carmody
12th December 2010, 17:23
Wool is kinda unique in that it has the same density as air, which is why it is so effective. It is also highly insulating. If you are trying to avoid thermal and radar detection, a thick natural (not treated, but raw wool, 'sheep wearing' density) wool covering may drastically reduce your signature. Might be a bit stinky and sweaty, though.

Ahkenaten
12th December 2010, 18:28
This topic in my opinion, is not worthy of discussion here. It distracts us and drags us down to the proper pornographic level that our controllers wish us to operate on.

morguana
12th December 2010, 18:32
This topic in my opinion, is not worthy of discussion here. It distracts us and drags us down to the proper pornographic level that our controllers wish us to operate on.

Agree, nothing more than gossip imho
m

shiva777
12th December 2010, 18:39
I gave the warning....knowing what is going on and the lengths to which people go to control this reality can be useful for some but too much for others..stop the vids if you feel they are not for you...personally I find things like Chemtrailing more disturbing than this...the slow poisoning of millions of people...many of the project camelot/avalon interviews deal with very disturbing topics...just listen to Bill deagle..lol..do you accuse Bill and Kerry by saying it "distracts us and drags us down to the proper pornographic level that our controllers wish us to operate on."

the use of sexual energy is something that is good to understand as it is one of the main ways "controllers" syphon energy and power their black magic grids...I know many can't deal with it so do the obvious,STOP watchinmg it if you can't deal with it..Akhnaten obviously can't deal with it and that's ok...he has no right to condemn others who can deal with it and will be better informed through watching it

Ahkenaten
12th December 2010, 18:47
Shiva giving warning is only a disclaimer.....................this particular kind of information which has been around for years and years by the way is pornography plain and simple. It is similar to the fake news programming focusing on purient sex crimes and murders and reveals the mindset of our controllers who seek to degrade us. The extent to which we participate (turn our attention to these things) reveals the way and extent to which we can be controlled and manipulated with this kind of information. It also serves to underscore the pure contempt that our controllers feel for us - i.e. that we are base beings being driven by the most base instincts.............further justifying their rationale for ruling us. This is toxic material and I seriously question anyone's level of development as well as motives in posting this stuff..............we should be mindful of others minds, value other people's consciousness, and NOT SEEK TO INSERT PORNOGRAPHY INTO THE COLLECTIVE MIND. We are pure spiritual beings of light.

Wood
12th December 2010, 18:51
We are pure spiritual beings of light.

Or rather the ostriches choosing to bury their heads in the new age la-la land ignoring the suffering around them.


They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Ahkenaten
12th December 2010, 18:56
Please Wood this particular story is sensationalistic, involving purely pornographic information. It is not the kind of subject matter that is worthy of being discussed amongst thinking adults and only serves to titillate, distract, and entrap. Discernment is important. Using freedom of discourse and information as an excuse to put this kind of stuff out for discussion is a cover for distracting us from what is important.

Wood
12th December 2010, 19:02
Using freedom of discourse and information as an excuse to put this kind of stuff out for discussion is a cover for distracting us from what is important.

To me it is rather important that people become aware of the kind of monsters we have in power. I wasn't aware myself until recenty. They are not just greedy corrupt politicians but actual monsters that will go to any length to fulfill their dark satanic agendas. This includes rituals involving sexual magic, mind control a level above of the kind of brainwashing that general population is being subjected to. We must identify and confront reality in a honest way, not put aside uncomfortable topics because we have been trained to not think about that.

EDIT: a nice synchronicity. I am watching "Der Golem" right now, a classic 1920's movie. The scene where the evil being is invoked to get from it the word to put life in the Golem contains a strong visual hint of anal sex between the two males performing the ritual, just what, for example, David Icke talks about.

shiva777
12th December 2010, 19:07
yes WOOD..Akhenaten wrote
"The extent to which we participate (turn our attention to these things) reveals the way and extent to which we can be controlled and manipulated with this kind of information."..that is classic new-agey religion mind control and is the classic new-age religion CONTROLLER programming.."keep them ignorant and in a "love and light and clueless" state so they can be controlled and are no threat "



..proj cam/avalon are all about revealing the "way and extent to which we can be controlled"...knowledge is power,hiding your head in the sand ,blocking your ears and whistling "love and light" tunes just makes you easier to control...love and light need to be balanced with wisdom/knowledge/understanding...many people are not spiritually mature enough to deal with the darker topics and that's ok...

\Akhenaten...what evidewnce do you have that this story is BS?...please provide it before standing on your soapbox and crying "BS"...you can't deal with this info so don't

Ahkenaten
12th December 2010, 19:10
B.S. plain and simple - this particular story has been around for many, many years and discussion of it AGAIN and AGAIN serves no practical purpose. If you want to advance the cause of knowledge apply your considerable mental powers to other topics..............................more worthy of your time.

MariaDine
12th December 2010, 20:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWO_jrC9qis



I don't know about her case...but what he says is a fact. There are mind control programs worldwide.

I remenber the X_FILES refering extensivlely to this.

And also the Nobel Prize of Literature José Saramago talking about the huge number of childrens that vanishes every year from all around the world.

Ahkenaten
12th December 2010, 20:21
The point is not whether or not this story is true - we all know mind control programs have been used for many years. The point is WHY THIS INFORMATION HERE, NOW? This is an OLD story..............................this particular kind of information (i.e. with prurient sexual elements) is used by TPTB to attract people, capture their attention (due to the sexual content) and DISTRACT THEM FROM OTHER THINGS. An obvious analogy is the continually hammering away in the mainstream media on subject matter containing this kind of content, in fact they careen from one such subject right on to another one. This is NOT to say that sexual crimes do not occur, it is the emphasis on them that is telling. Clearly someone knows very well that certain subject matter can almost always be used very effectively to distract people from more important issues. And what are the most important issues? Those issues concerning the control paradigm, who is at the top, etc. This story has been around for many, many years and is nothing new. Many opinions have already been expressed about it.................WHY MUST WE HAVE THIS STORY THROWN UP FOR DISCUSSION NOW? I say because it has served as a lovely distraction in the past and it can serve that purpose now.

Limor Wolf
12th December 2010, 20:23
choosing those specific words for the title might be a little...too much,shall we say (now i see it was changed).however i do not let this divert me from the importance of cathy's o'brien story.
i have been listening to her story on diffrent occasions and i have the outmost respect for her courage and for other similiar victims as well.i will not turn my head or my heart on those other people and what they have to say just beacuse it might interfere with "my climbing to ascention" or it might lower my frequency vibration.it is hard,it is difficult,one must take it with small gulps
or decide its not possible for them at the moment ,all very legitimate.but i want to face the truth no matter what,otherwise how can i (we) find the solution without being aware of the details,and what kind of person am i going to be when delibretly looking the other way as not to distract myself from not so nice appearances.
personally there is nothing that can harm my path to awareness no matter what,unless i will let it.and i salute cathy o'brien.

MariaDine
12th December 2010, 20:27
Your missing the point. The point is the missing children. It starts there. ...well, ....«one of the thousand pieces» of the puzzel picture.

sjkted
12th December 2010, 21:13
IMO, we should keep talking about this stubbornly until it stops.

--sjkted

Limor Wolf
12th December 2010, 21:21
point taken :> sjkted

Celine
12th December 2010, 21:36
I am glad the thread title was changed. Sensationalism distracts from the vital points. We sit here discussing the validity of the title rather then the legitimacy and consequences of the topic..

A horrific consequence of sexual abuse is the how talking about it becomes taboo.

How many human beings are sexualy abused and fear talking about it?

It is not only due to retribution from the abuser...

Fear of not being believed is the main reason most sexual aggression cases do not get reported

Fear of being blamed is another...


Although as someone else said... why is this information coming back again now?

shiva might have felt that some here needed to see this again...*shrug*


Using sexual abuse cases to make a point seems a little gauche ...

morguana
12th December 2010, 22:11
Your missing the point. The point is the missing children. It starts there. ...well, ....«one of the thousand pieces» of the puzzel picture.

you may like to read some of this info md..........(warning some of the material here may be upsetting for members to read)


Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.


Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.


Conspiracy Of Silence


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxiBWv4xYE&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxiBWv4xYE&feature=player_embedded#


The Finders
The kidnapping of children for purposes of prostitution, pornography, high tech weaponry experimental abuse, mind control abuse, child slave labor for underground alien-controlled facilities, white sex slavery, and the satanic ritual murder of untold thousands of American children snatched from the streets and playgrounds of America by agents working for the CIA is the principle reason for the existence of a covert CIA operation called "The Finders". The Finders is one of the most alarming and despicable covert operations against America's children that Gunderson's investigations helped to uncover, but it's only one of many covert Gestapo-like acts committed against American citizens by government agents under directives issued, not by Congress or the President, but rather by international satanists collectively known as the Illuminati, who control the Secret or Inner government of the United States as well as every other major government in the world. The "Finders" operation began in the 1960's and continues kidnapping children to this very day.
http://www.educate-yourself.org/tg/
http://www.tedgunderson.net/About_Ted_Gunderson.html


Ted Gunderson was born in Colorado Springs. He graduated from the University of Nebraska in 1950. Gunderson entered the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951. He served in Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as a Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia; and as Chief Inspector, and Special Agent-in-Charge of the Memphis and Dallas[2] divisions. Ted Gunderson is the former chief of the Los Angeles FBI.[3]
[edit] Post-FBI Investigations and Career

After retiring from the FBI, Gunderson set up a private investigation firm, Ted L. Gunderson and Associates, in Santa Monica. In 1980, he became a defense investigator for Green Beret Doctor Jeffrey R. MacDonald, who had been convicted of the 1970 murders of his pregnant wife and two daughters. Gunderson obtained affidavits from Helena Stoeckley confessing to her involvement in the murders.[4] Gunderson is also co-author with Roger McGovern of How to Locate Anyone Anywhere Without Leaving Home.[5]

Since his retirement, Gunderson has publicly claimed that several high profile deaths or crimes have been committed by prolific satanic cults, also often claiming involvment by high level government officials. Cases where he has made such claims include the death of Sonny Bono, the Oklahoma City bombing and the Jeffrey MacDonald case[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson


Satanism and the CIA: International Trafficking in Children
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7422707471557380769#


The 1990 grand jury report came less than two weeks after private detective Gary Caradori was killed when the small plane he was piloting broke up in flight over Illinois. Caradori was hired as lead investigator by the special Nebraska state legislative committee originally assigned to look into the child abuse allegations. Senator Loran Schmit, chairman of the legislative committee, told the Omaha World-Herald that "[Caradori] believed that something was going to come out of this investigation. He believed that the evidence was there to be developed and that things couldn't stay under cover forever."[11]

In 1990, the Schiller Institute, a German-based organization associated with Lyndon LaRouche, created a ten-member group called "Citizens Fact-Finding Commission to Investigate Human Rights Violations of Children in Nebraska." Led by Reverend James Bevel, the group gathered signatures on a petition asking the legislature to extend Senator Schmit's investigation.[12] Additionally, the Executive Intelligence Review, a Lyndon LaRouche publication, published an article which alleged that children associated with the Franklin prostitution ring had been murdered in satanic rituals. Reprints of the article were distributed in Omaha and Lincoln.[13]

Former Nebraska state senator John DeCamp, who was close to the original Franklin investigation and provided legal counsel to several of the alleged victims in the case including Paul Bonacci, eventually authored a book titled The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska. In the book, DeCamp alleges Lawrence King was operating a child prostitution ring based in Omaha, and that it was used to serve prominent citizens in the local area, as well as high-level U.S. politicians in Washington D.C. and elsewhere. DeCamp also describes what he believes amounted to a coverup. The book was first published in 1992. A second, revised edition of the book was published in 2006.

LaRouche followers Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin also wrote about the Franklin Credit Union scandal and its alleged connection to the Washington prostitution ring in a book titled George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography. The book was published by Executive Intelligence Review in 1992.[14]

More allegations of a coverup came to light when a 56-minute documentary film about King's alleged child prostitution ring titled Conspiracy of Silence,[15] produced in 1993 by Yorkshire Television, surfaced on the Internet. The film features an interview with former CIA director William Colby, numerous members of the Nebraska state legislature including John DeCamp, and more than one alleged victim in the case.

In 2009, a new book by investigative journalist Nick Bryant was published about the scandal and alleged coverup. The book is titled: The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

stats for missing children in the US

How many missing children are there?

The problem of missing children is complex and multifaceted. Children may become missing due to abduction by nonfamily members or abduction by family members. Children may be missing as a result of running away from home. Children may also be missing involuntarily for reasons other than abduction, due to becoming lost, injured or otherwise missing to their parents or guardians. The best national estimates for the number of missing children are found in the National Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway, and Thrownaway Children (NISMART-2), released in October 2002. According to NISMART-2, an estimated

* 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year, or an average of 2,000 children reported missing each day.
* 200,000 children were were abducted by family members.
* 58,000 children were abducted by nonfamily members, and
* 115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. These crimes involve someone the child does not know, or knows only slightly, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2816

also worth reading this.......as we as a global community have a long way to go untill our children are safe


The History of Child Abuse
by Lloyd deMause

The Journal of Psychohistory 25 (3) Winter 1998

The following speech was given at the National Parenting Conference in Boulder, Colorado, on September 25, 1997.

During the past three decades, I have spent much of my scholarly life examining primary sources such as diaries, autobiographies, doctor's reports, ethnographic reports and other documents that document what it must have felt like to have been a child--yesterday and today, in the East and the West, in literate and preliterate cultures.

In several hundred studies published by myself and my associates in The Journal of Psychohistory, we have provided extensive evidence that the history of childhood has been a nightmare from which we have only recently begun to awaken. The further back in history one goes--and the further away from the West one gets--the more massive the neglect and cruelty one finds and the more likely children are to have been killed, rejected, beaten, terrorized and sexually abused by their caretakers.

Indeed, my conclusion from a lifetime of psychohistorical study of childhood and society is that the history of humanity is founded upon the abuse of children. Just as family therapists today find that child abuse often functions to hold families together as a way of solving their emotional problems, so, too, the routine assault of children has been society's most effective way of maintaining its collective emotional homeostasis. Most historical families once practiced infanticide, erotic beating and incest. Most states sacrificed and mutilated their children to relieve the guilt of adults. Even today, we continue to arrange the daily killing, maiming, molestation and starvation of children through our social, military and economic activities. I would like to summarize here some of the evidence I have found as to why child abuse has been humanity's most powerful and most successful ritual, why it has been the cause of war and social violence, and why the eradication of child abuse and neglect is the most important social task we face today.


m
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/05_history.html

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however i feel (after watching first vid in op) that cathy obrian is not telling her truth propely, i do not feel that she was a victim of torture by hilary clinton

interesting to note this......

Mattias Gardell notes that O'Brien's claims are almost entirely unsupported by any evidence outside her testimony or the similarly unverified testimony of others,[7] and studies of MKULTRA have produced no mention of Project Monarch.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O%27Brien

Lost Soul
13th December 2010, 01:41
Some of the things she says is consistent with what Duncan O' Finian (sp) talked about. Children are tortured and traumatized with intent for the mind to develop another personality that can cope with that trauma or torture. That compartmentalized part of the brain resurfaces anytime that particular trauma is inflicted. Later, that compartmentalized personality is trained to perform specific functions. What a horrible thing to do to another human being.

Snowbird
13th December 2010, 02:15
It has been a number of years since I have heard Cathy O'Brien speak. These two videos are more current and it is really good to see the transformation that she has come through. These videos are lead-ins to a DVD that can be purchased.

She has definitely come a long way. I wonder how her daughter is doing now.


Cathy O'Brien speaks on mind control PT 1 of 2

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUnC7uV5yY&feature=related


Cathy O'Brien speaks on mind control PT 2 of 2

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbCFPCaAaw&feature=related

Zook
13th December 2010, 03:28
Hi Mariadine,


Your missing the point. The point is the missing children. It starts there. ...well, ....«one of the thousand pieces» of the puzzel picture.

That's undoubtedly the most important point, agreed.

Of course, there are the other important points that Cathy O'Brien raises, including the exposition of powerbrokers - a virtual who's who of presidents, prime ministers and lesser politicians - that use children for the gratification of their own libidos. I used to admire Pierre Elliot Trudeau ... but that view changed 180 degrees after I watched O'Brien's Trance Formation of America two years ago, and investigated her claims against CIA mind control programs such as Project Monarch and MK-Ultra (among others). Interestingly, the use of LSD and the sexualization of children are common links between MK-Ultra and the Hamilton-Byrne cult that Julian Assange had been associated with.

Here's more on Project Monarch and MK-Ultra:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon02.htm

Here's a youtube link to part I (other five parts can be retrieved at youtube):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY40Ijh_2FM

:typing:

ps: We are dealing with some seriously twisted trucks here, folks ... and many of them run our governments!

Snowbird
15th December 2010, 04:10
Yes, and yet when someone stands up and tells her story and names names, she is considered to be mentally incapacitated.

Who else has the inside information about a subject so dark that no one else would ever be allowed this info? Women and children have experienced this heinous torture and they at least deserve the courtesy of listening ears without condemnation.