Mt. Shasta Revealed: Mysteries and Legends of Northern California

[Cartomancer]

Here is a link to a page on Facebook where all my videos on this subject are available. They are also available on youtube. Thanks.
https://www.facebook.com/Mysteries-and-Legends-of-Northern-California-Mt-Shasta-Revealed-1097899046914582/

[Daozen]

Interesting. Don't have time to watch the whole video now. Is your basic premise that there is no anomalous presence in Mt Shasta, and it's just a baseless Rosicrucian myth? St Germain and the mythical city "Telos" are two separate subjects, they have only been conflated recently by New Age propaganda. Just as The Galactic Federation of Light channelings do not disprove the existence of extra-terrestrial life, the New Age channelings surrounding Mt Shasta do not discredit the core theory/myth, that there may be an ancient Uighur/Lemurian/Atlantean city within that mountain.

If anyone wants to see if subterranean living is feasible on Earth, they only need to Google "Coober Pedy", or look at the recently release pics of deep crystal caves, or Turkish underground cities. Coober Pedy etc do not prove the existence of Telos, but they show that underground living is by no means a myth.

I guess everyone has to enjoy the mystery for themselves.

[Cartomancer]

What may have also contributed to this lore is the similarity of the name of the Modoc tribe to the name of Prince Madoc. Thanks.

[ghostrider]

That mountainholds a secret , a hidden city , deep underground filled with a split lineage of the survivors of Atlantis ...so i have read ... up to you whether you believe it or not , its all up to you to use your own mind ... it is said they have guards that carry weapons so if a human encounters them , they stun you , memory wipe and the entrance to the city remains secret... they are said to be tall blondes , perfect features, and on occassion venture into our cities for trading and bartering , and can only be in close contact with us for aound 20 minutes, our vibrations make the sick , like a summer cold ... the other lineage is said to be the blue skinned people living in an underground city in the Himalaya mountains ...I am extremely interested in these peoples for thy still live 1500 years, and know the the story of the original sin =gentetic tampering that shortened us to live only 80-100 years ...

[Cartomancer]

I have worked all over the Mt. Shasta wilderness on every side of the mountain for many years. I have never encountered anything out of the ordinary or observed any paranormal occurrences. I did have a close encounter w/ a mountain lion on one trip though.

[Cartomancer]

Here is a link to part two of my video series about Mt. Shasta:
https://youtu.be/T0wai7LzwSU

[Sunny-side-up]

I have worked all over the Mt. Shasta wilderness on every side of the mountain for many years. I have never encountered anything out of the ordinary or observed any Lemurians, Bigfoot, or UFO's. That is not to say that those things don't exist but I have never seen them. I was intrigued by the tales of cities in the mountain as well. I think that Native view and later the European view was bolstered by the presences of many lava tubes that are quite extensive around the mountain. These were used as sources of water and shelter by Native peoples for thousands of years. I have noted a few examples of Native mythology matching tentets of Gnostic and Alchemical views of teh world in the past and I think this is part of what contributed to what we see at Mt. Shasta today. Is there is a city within the mountain? I have never been "inside" Mt. Shasta so from a practical standpoint this is possible. I would be shocked and surprised if the Legend of J.C. Brown were true for example. In a strange hard to believe way the overtones of Mt. Shasta expose the Jacobite culture of early America in tandem with the same sentiment coming from the Hudson's Bay Company. Thank you.

Hi Cartomancer

Not having a go at you here, just wondering what your view level is.
Just wondering have you ever seen anything, experienced anything in your life.
Wondering what your overall view is on the subject of the paranormal and related, ET's UFO's etc

You say you didn't see anything there, did it also feel totally normal to you as well?

Not having a go at you , just wondering what your level of acceptance is.

[Cartomancer]

I believe those things are possible but have never seen or experienced any of it myself. Natural beauty always makes me feel good to see and experience. John Muir called Mt. Shasta a Cathedral of Nature.

[Cartomancer]

Here is an interview I recently did with James Swagger on Capricorn Radio about Mt. Shasta. We had a great chat that explains my views about Mt. Shasta and other "mysteries." Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AfMw0S-9fM

[Cartomancer]

Stay tuned for more videos about Mt. Shasta here. Can't load photos for some reason. Tried advanced setting etc. Thanks!

[Sueanne47]

You'd be interested to hear about Sebastien Martin's experience. In the video he speaks (starting at 1.06) he has a close encounter of the 5th kind with a stellar being from the Plieades in his living room, and he has been in contact with him and his star family ever since. Under hypnosis, he was told to go to Mt. Chasta and to a rock at abt. 10,000 ft. 'to awaken the starseeds of the earth':

The thing that struck me though, is that he remembered when he was a baby being in a black 'goo' and he met a being called Ra, and told to awaken Starseeds and their human conciousness. So I dont know if he had a 'good' encounter or a bad one? there is something to do with mind control and the archons/ illuminati surrounding the black goo.

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[DNA]

I think the person most responsible for putting Mount Shasta on the map in terms of spirituality is Frederick Spencer Oliver who channelled a being called Phylos the Thibetan and wrote a sensational story called "A Dweller on Two Planets by Phylos the Thibetan" that chronicled the life of Phylos in Atlantean times and the last incarnation of Phylos in 19th century North America as a gold miner. This book was finshed by Oliver in 1886. 130 years ago.

Oliver's work is amazing in my opinion.
The retelling of the life of Phylos in Atlantis included the description of antigravity air ships, submarine craft, television, wireless telephony, arial water generators, air conditioners, high speed rail, and atomic telescopes.
Oliver recounts Phylos's last reincarnational life in the 19th century as a gold miner occult student of "Theo-Christic Adepts".
Oliver then chronicles Phylos's travels to Venus/Hisperia via his subtle body while his physical body resided in a physical temple inside of Mt. Shasta.
It was Oliver's mention of Mt. Shasta in his book that started the Hoopla at Mt. Shasta that was later taken up by the Theosophists.

[DNA]

Billy Meier reported that their were in fact beings who lived in Mt. Shasta, he stated that they were the race of people known as the Hyberboreans. From what I understand Hyperboria was a large Island off the coast of England. Now these Hyberboreans were reported in Greek times and there were myths about them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
It seems Hyperborea may have been a last vestige of Atlantis, before it too sank below the waves.
Billy Meier states that these Hyperboreans first moved to Florida, and then to Mt. Shasta.
Now here is another interesting tid-bit, the Rendalshim Forest Incident.
One of the service men who came in contact with the flying craft that landed in Rendalshim Forest stated that he was downloaded with a series of binary codes.
He wrote the codes down in a notebook and went to have the binary code transcribed.
What came out was a latitude and longitude for what many folks think is the location of the lost island of Hy-Brazil where the Hyperboreans lived.
Again Hy-Brazil was probably the last refuge for the people of Atlantis.
Crazy huh?
What does this mean?
It may be some kind of message from the craft's occupants, stating where they came from.
So the Rendalshim Forest UFO may have come from the folks who live under Mt. Shasta.
Here is the Redalshim Forest video. Relevant information starts at about 4:47 in.
The video is short and to the point for folks who need a refresher on the incident.
I went through like twenty videos before I found this one. You're welcome. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooJvaOQINxc
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[Sueanne47]

Thanks, that was interesting DNA, its a pity that the ones sending the message couldnt elaborate a bit more on 'exploration of humanity.'

[Sueanne47]

Mount Graham in Arizona, is a portal with dark entities on the other side, according to this guy Steve Quayle. This is a Native American sacred ground and an Apache contacted him to say that he sued the vatican & Nasa to prevent them from building the observatory Lucifer telescope there.

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More about Mt. Graham and Apache land:

http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/471

[DNA]

Mount Graham in Arizona, is a portal with dark entities on the other side, according to this guy Steve Quayle. This is a Native American sacred ground and an Apache contacted him to say that he sued the vatican & Nasa to prevent them from building the observatory Lucifer telescope there.

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More about Mt. Graham and Apache land:

http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/471


I believe Mt. Graham is a portal type zone, though I do not know if we need to devolve into a "demons are coming to get us" type format as Steve Quayle tends to boil everything down to.
This is a first person account of Mt. Graham having some type of bright star appearing above it and staying stationary in the sky.
Here is a also a video of it.
Both found here. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/258801-ufo-over-mount-graham-arizona/#comment-5002996


First, I quoted " UFO " as the true meaning. I am not a " Aliens are visiting Earth " kind of person. Just hoping maybe some of the Astronomers or the like may have an answer.
We recently moved from Oregon ( God I miss it ) to Safford, Arizona. I work in a processing plant in the biggest Copper mine in the world, in Morenci. Morenci is 45 miles from Safford, I commute daily to and from work, working rotating shifts. Myself and a friend that moved here have noticed a very bright " Star " over Mount Graham when we drive home in the dark. I never thought anything of it, thinking it is the North star, as it never seems to move throughout the times we see it.
This went on for the last 3 months, not all the time, but see it and think not much of it, other then " that sure is bright ".
It never occured to me, until last night, that it is not all ways there. 2 nights ago ( I am off ) my wife said " that sure is ****g bright ". I went to the back porch to look. We live close to Mount Graham, and have a great view. She thought it was the Vatican observatory lit up. I told her no way, it is much higher then the mountain is, and it is the North Star, or Jupiter. I did think it was much brighter then I have seen, but still did not think much of it.
Now, a night later, it was not there. Clear sky, saw other stars. It was there 2 nights, gone 2 nights, back that night, gone last night. And there most of the time I drive home. It does not move. Not sure if it will be there tonight.
Thins I know it is not, from living and seeing these things :
Plane landing.
Helicopter
Car lights
Flares.
I will also mention we enjoy on a daily basis almost, watching the Air Force practice dog fighting, including dropping flares, day and night. Cool to watch.
It is dead silent when that light is there, and it stays there for hours, if not all night most of the time. I found a video on you tube, and it appears to be the same thing. The video, or pictures do not do it justice.( there other things on the net about the observatory, but they are wayy out there. This is the only thin I found that is " credible " to what I am seeing.)
Here is the video, and any ideas would be welcome to hear. I will drive that way next time I am off, and next time it is there. I will take pics, but doubt they will be worth a crap.
From the same post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtNWa1SxRBY
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[Michelle Marie]

I believe those things are possible but have never seen or experienced any of it myself. Natural beauty always makes me feel good to see and experience. What I found out about Mt. Shasta reveals historical overtones that have been ignored or purposefully swept under the rug. Here in the modern world many suspect that "fringe" subject matter is manipulated by intelligence services and governments for their own reasons. That is part of what I found at Mt. Shasta. Now. Given that what I did find was that a specific European Royal entity may have been entombed at Mt. Shasta in the tradition of Charlemagne and Christian Rosenkreutz. So while I have not found any paranormal attributes to Mt. Shasta the history of the area reveals how Royal entities were interested in the mineral wealth of California before a new law forced them all to leave. For instance Leland Stanford received the property that would become Stanford U. from the same French exiled royal interests that built the Frenchman's Tower in Palo Alto. I will say this. There is a group known as the Society of the Cincinnati that is responsible for most of the "new age" and "paranormal" phenomena that is presented to the public on tv and media. BTW. I have walked over at least 100k acres of the Mt. Shasta area and spent at least a year and a half within sight of the mountain. So I have been there many times.

All media influence aside, the attunement of vibrational fields will render the personal experience. A "material mechanistic science mind" will not perceive what an open, love-based consciousness would experience.

Interestingly, this phenomenon comes to mind: when I reread certain texts "new" information becomes apparent that was never perceived before. Has the text changed? No! My vibrational attunement has changed and my inner knowing, or intuition, was dialed in to that information.

Hidden (or not) motives and intentions drive the connections in consciousness.

I live near Mt. Shasta and I've had direct paranormal experiences there. Very auspicious. The saying "You had to be there" or experience it for yourself to know, comes to mind, so sharing my experience is not of value here.

Each person will experience what they are fitted for in Mt. Shasta, or anywhere else for that matter.

Thanks for sharing information and perspectives here. Fascinating!

Love all,
MM

[Cartomancer]

https://youtu.be/Oy5RXMQiHhY

[Cartomancer]

https://youtu.be/zm3wzDEzIA8

[Michelle Marie]

Yes but you are left having to explain your paranormal experiences thus compelling people to simply believe you. I am not saying nothing happened to you. But your suggestion that a person has to be "attuned" to the mountains energies is simply a cop out imo. Sorry. I have walked over nearly 200k acres of Mt. Shasta so I guess I am one of the people who just don't have that talent. Personally I have seen too much manipulation and blantant misuse of the entire concept in part today for people to simply make money channelling and being psychics. So while I can't objectively say none of these things happen at Mt. Shasta I have found huge rationale as to why I would not trust any of it and do my own searching as opposed to what has been presented to you there. All of the myths of Mt. Shasta are based on and frankly stolen from the Native mythology of the area. Ethnocentric Europeans recognized what they percieved to be esoteric concepts in the Native lore letting their ego lead them to believing Europeans had been there and taught the natives this. Not true. There is a sick pattern of this co-opting of Native mythology through history and it is sick imo.

I don't need anyone to believe me. Do you need people to believe you?

There is the Intellectual mind that supports positions, and Spiritual Mind that holds space for paradoxical truth.

I'm not holding any position that I need support of.

Also, my experience has nothing to do with money or paying for any information from others.

Each person will "believe" in positions or perspectives, or use personal experience from differing levels of consciousness, to make up their own mind - mental freedom, if you will.

Promote what you will - the rest is still based on Free Will.

MM

[Cartomancer]

e are destructive aspects to all of this imo. To me worshipping or considering the divinity of a member of the Royal class is just mind blowing and sometimes I just can't believe it is happening. Everyone

[Michelle Marie]

Yes, many things get co-opted and distorted. ...and many people prosper while others may be deceived.

My experiences have more to do with synchronicities rather than ascended masters or the beings reportedly inside.

I'm just an explorer here.

Cheers!
MM

[Sueanne47]

Some people are more sensitive to their surroundings though. Also sensitive/psychic people can tell straight away when they stand next to a person, that they have to get away from them because they have 'bad energy' around them. If an animal likes a person ~ then so do I! they are good judges of character. :dog::cat:

[Cartomancer]

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[Sueanne47]

Its definately real that people can be overcome by dark spirits through channelling, that's why some have to have exorcisms. I personally believe in Jesus just because so many people near death saw him on the spirit side.

People and places all have energy good & bad, I walked into a house I was looking at once, immediately I said to the estate agent "did someone die here?" funny enough he said "yes! why?" I just 'knew' something in the room!. :blink:

[Cartomancer]

Here is episode 3 of my series about the Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta 9NPrB7w[/video]

[Cartomancer]

In Greek Classics Hyperborea is the land of the north. Boreas was the god of the north

[Daozen]

Here is episode 3 of my series about the Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed. Though this may upset some of you it never hurts to include a dose of historical context into your studies. What is going on at Mt. Shasta has nothing to do with cities under the mountain or the Ascended Masters though this is what you may have been led to believe. There is a web of Imperial interests that had a reason to instill this mythology and lore at Mt. Shasta. Please see my book published two months ago Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta revealed. Yes I know this sounds familiar today here on Project Avalon..........Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxy-9NPrB7w

I have to say, Cartomancer, I see you talk like a "grounded, down to earth" researcher, but I have not seen you drop a single link to a ***document*** supporting your claims. Anyone glancing at this thread sees you coming across as a hard-nosed realist, gently but firmly breaking the truth to a bunch of starry-eyed delusionals. Do you have any supporting evidence to back up your claims? Written documents, not videos? Otherwise this thread just comes across as debunking 101.

You have also repeatedly conflated Ascended Masters with subterranean cities, despite the fact that these are two entirely separate subjects. Is this the Santa Claus gambit?

Could you show some facts, some documents supporting your claim that this is a seeded imperial myth? No doubt there have been some charlatans in this field that have monetized the myth of hidden cities. Likewise, there are demagogues deeply embedded in UFOlogy. The fact that there are fakers in UFOlogy doesn't mean that there are no extra-terrestrials. Likewise, the fact that the names of Telos/Agartha etc have been misused for cash, does not disprove their existence.

Also, this thread comes a couple of months after the Pray Peace/Todd and Nora thread, which fell flat on it's face.

Anyone doubting the existence of subterranean towns need only Google Coober Pedy, Australia, or the recently discovered ruins in Turkey. This is no way proves the existance of subterranean cities in California, but it does show that underground living is not a myth.

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Anyway, do you have any supporting documents that you can link to?

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P.S. The idea of myth-seeding is possible. I remember reading about the Bene Gesserit planting myths in Dune. Maybe it could happen in non-fiction. I doubt it, but lets hear the evidence. If you believe that myths have been sown about Shasta, we should look at all the supporting documentation with a clear eye.

I believe the mountains in some areas are full to the brim with activity.... but if there were no subterranean civilizations in California, it would be no skin off my nose. All the more room for me to build one myself. We haven't even touched on the subject of secret cities in Asia.

[Cartomancer]

I have six books including sources and I would be glad to supply you with sources for anything I say. But really what a futile exercise that really is. The Ascended Masters

[Daozen]

It's not a war of words. It's a discussion, and a request for you to >link to online documents< supporting your claims. Not books, not google, an online document. I've read the claims of the Theosophists and I'm lukewarm about what they say.

- Why are you claiming I'm attacking you when I'm just asking for some proof?
- You have an entire book full of sources... can you link to a written, free, online source? This is a basic, reasonable request.
- Again, St Germain doesn't have any bearing on the existence of physical, underground cities. I mentioned that conflation three times.
- Myths are one thing, underground living is another.

My main point is this: There is abundant photographic and physical evidence of subterranean dwellings on this Earth. To dismiss it all as a seeded myth for gullible New Agers flies in the face of huge amounts of data.

Now you bring up the Nazis. Again, this is the Santa Claus gambit, deliberately linking a discredited institution to a more credible body of evidence. I see a lot of shaky reasoning and leaps of logic in your presentation.

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I have no energy invested in the Shasta myth. While I personally believe it's true, I'm more interested in the secret Asian cities. What lies in the Himalayas? Blavatsky may be a con artist, but I'm going by what I see, not by what I hear. And thank you for opening up this topic to scrutiny. All subjects deserve to be looked at closely.

To support your assertion, I would expect to see an internal document from one of the Royal Houses or companies you mentioned, where they plan to seed myths around Shasta. If you could link to something like that, I'd be interested. Again, I'm requesting that you link to a document of that nature.

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I would be happy to let this subject drop for now, but you guys keep starting threads about it. :) I'll post my background if I get time.

Now let me crack open that search engine. This is not Telos or Agartha, but subterranean dwellings are very much real. For the survivors of Atlantis, Lemuria, or any other ancient civilization, it's the logical place to live:

http://media.galaxant.com/000/447/110/desktop-1450387232.png

http://www.stuartrangeoutbackresort.com.au/images/photos/attractions/0002910.jpg

http://www.cooberpedy.sa.gov.au/webdata/resources/images/breakways_2_(Small).jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/68/7b/06/687b060978c2e81cd03c2512b4bdd0c7.jpg

http://www.egypttoursplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Kaymakli-Underground-City-Nevsehir-Turkey.jpg

http://projectcamelot.org/tunnel_boring_machine_4.jpg

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/deathvalley30.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Cristales_cueva_de_Naica.JPG

[Cartomancer]

e. Now leave me alone or contribute your views of what is going on at Mt. Shasta. In ad

[Daozen]

I asked if you could link to some written online proof to back up your claims. You haven't done that, so I'll take that as a no. Thanks.

[Cartomancer]

What kind of senseless ad hominum attack it this? My evidence is in the Peerage of England and Scotland. The world is full of odd coincidences. Show me your sources for the existence of underground cities like Argartha and I will show you the truth there mate. Please do.

[Cartomancer]

Any source you doubt is but a few keystrokes away as you are so obviously adept at executing. Look it up yours

[Daozen]

What kind of senseless ad hominum attack it this? My evidence is in the Peerage of England and Scotland. The world is full of odd coincidences. Show me your sources for the existence of underground cities like Argartha and I will show you the truth there mate. Please do.

I have no proof, but you are welcome to look at my testimonial if you wish. I've offered to take a polygraph, no one has taken me up on it. No one has yet disproved my account. I offered Bill Ryan and DNA to ask me fair, honest questions when they entered my thread at the start of the summer. No response was given. Readers can draw their own conclusions. The ball is firmly in their court.

Look at David Wilock, Corey Goode, Cobra etc... all their claims are difficult to believe, with multiple instances of foul play. No one's disproven my story.

My intention is not so much to prove the existence of Agartha, as this cannot be done. I'm asking you to provide some logical arguments, online written sources, and structured, grounded arguments to back up your assertions.

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Any source you doubt is but a few keystrokes away as you are so obviously adept at executing. Look it up yourself. I am not here to teach you anything beyond what I have posted here.

Could you point me in the direction of some sources? A few web searches the other day turned up nothing.



What are you doing up at 4:00 am?

It's 11:15am... I live in the future.

[DNA]

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I have no proof, but you are welcome to look at my testimonial if you wish. I've offered to take a polygraph, no one takes me up on it. No one has yet disproved my account. I offered Bill Ryan and DNA to ask me fair, honest questions when they entered my thread at the start of the summer. No response was given. Readers can draw their own conclusion, the ball is firmly in their court.


Daozen
What's up bro?
Hey I remember not liking your tone on a thread, and then I kind of responded like a d!ck.
I apologize for that. I can be a moody bastard at times, and I've gotten better over the years, but sometimes I still stumble.
And if I do recall correctly I definitely stumbled in the area you refer to.
Remind me what exactly it is you are talking about.
I work and such so bare with me if I take a minute to get back with you.
You can PM me as well if you would prefer.

[Cartomancer]

Hey. If anyone wants to talk about Mt. Shasta while being polite and non abrasive I am always here.

[Cartomancer]

Here announced again is episode 3 of my series Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Sh

[Dustin Naef]

Here announced again is episode 3 of my series Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed. This series tell the truth about the history of Mt. Shasta which does not include missing persons, and anything near what most people are being sold about Mt. Shasta. Right here on Project Avalon is another version of Mt.Shasta that is entirely gross over speculation based on what it is you might buy. The truth is here. Stay tuned for part 4. There is no city beneath Mt. Shasta and the Legend of J.C. Brown is a gross hoax meant to advertise one persons vision of what was going on at Mt. Shasta, coincidentally also a money making enterprise. To me is it awful strange that I have been here since 2011 and the month I release a book about Mt. Shasta another author shows up here with a book nearly exactly even titled the way my book is. NOTE THAT I PUBLISHED MY BOOK LONG BEFORE THIS NEW BOOK. This is the title to my book: Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed. Now compare it to the name of the other book the author of which I know for 100% certain knew I had published my book and knew what the title was. Then he decides to publish a book w/ an nearly identical title w/ information designed to counter what I am saying in my book. Buy it if you will. I think someone should question this other author as to his associations with groups that believe this kind of thing. Ask him is he is part of any secret orders or societies. You all are being b.s.'s as much as possible and no one is questioning it. Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxy-9NPrB7w

Hello Cort, I really don't see my book in competition with yours Mount Shasta is a big enough place to allow for more than one viewpoint. And as we've been friends on Facebook for years, you know that I've been working on my book for years and the title has not changed. I regret that you now see me as an adversary, but my book is very different and my intent in writing it was to cover the prehistoric lore and Native American legends about Mount Shasta. I have over 300 historical references cited in the book that can be fact checked. If this information counters what you've written, it's not because I have any personal bias against your work or an agenda, I wrote a history book largely based on Mount Shasta's Native American lore and local legends. I believe Native American traditions and legends do in fact preserve accurate memories of past historical events, and that's the premise of my book. Most all the material in my book goes into the prehistoric history of Mount Shasta and is from Native American lore, so I don't really understand how it counters what you've written. I really don't want to get into an argument here, I'm fine by letting people judge it by its own merits, and I think all the historical references I cited in the book will speak for themselves so I don't feel the need to defend myself against critics.

[Cartomancer]

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[blackdog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxy-9NPrB7w

So, are you saying the occult is largely an intelligence operation? Or that these elite families are putting out these ideas which actually have something behind them other than their exoteric meaning - something that these elites really believe in?

[Bill Ryan]

So, are you saying the occult is largely an intelligence operation? Or that these elite families are putting out these ideas which actual have something behind them other than their exoteric meaning - something that these elites really believe in?

I'd be interested in any other views on this, but (although you were asking Cartomancer the question!) my own response is that


The 'occult' is definitely real (and the insiders periodically, or maybe even often, use black magic as a tool that they understand pretty well -- to further their own ends, of course)



Some intelligence operations, using advanced technology, may well capitalize on this to fake 'occult' activity in certain places or situations.

[Cartomancer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxy-9NPrB7w

So, are you saying the occult is largely an intelligence operation? Or that these elite families are putting out these ideas which actual have something behind them other than their exoteric meaning - something that these elites really believe in?

No I am not saying the occult is entirely an intelligence operation. But what you do see is a common thread of Enochian and Biblical concepts being inferred intentionally. At first in the early nineteenth century these things were valued via their Enochian references which certain sects of secret societies valued highly. Then just after that is when you see the emergence of many popular myths and legends that use the images of Bigfoort (Nephilim), UFO's, and other mysteries that actually refer to their beliefs and not what the popular press is telling you. With regard to Native myths you would have to consider the people who wrote this down. Monctezuma predicted the day Cortes would arrive. You either A: Believe he could tell this via psychic means or B: The Spanish used a ploy to arrange this. They had been taking slaves from Central America for twenty years before Cortes "conquered" it so they may have been able to get to Monctezuma before they even came and were at first welcomed. That is just one of the most grand examples. I think even to some degree the Nazi's used this very same imagery and it is still having a very strong effect on the way people view "the strange" to this day.

People who value Theosophy don't usually like what I have to say. There is nothing wrong w/ Theosophical concepts. It is the way others have applied them that makes it look bad and even that was likely intentional on the part of those who disagree with them. There is a war going on in this subject matter than few consider when believing what ever they choose. There are people that actually value manipulating this genre in my opinion.

There is a clear link between what the Nazi's believed and what occult societies one hundred years prior were promoting and using. This kind of use of local historical context also shows you how the Legend of J.C. Brown has the fingerprints of a specific group of people all over it and absolutely nothing to prove it but a 79 year old man saying so. No proof beyond that at all and yet we see people promoting this as a reason to thin C. Rosenkreutz is interred in a crypt in Mt. Shasta as if this is all a true story you should believe. That story strangely echoes established beliefs of well known organizations. There is a real reason this myth was propagated and it does not have much to do with what that Legend describes. Even the people who created it know it is false and what it really represents. They have been initiated into a set of information that lets them recognize such things.

And PS: This goes for the Native American myths supporting the same Enochian concepts. If you check into that no Natives were writing these things down. It was the European people who recorded all these things. I have just this week read several Native myths that read just like the book of Enoch. Are we now supposed to believe that they were long ago exposed to this or that the people who recorded these things had altered them to fit their own view of the world?

Yes there are amazing and freaky things in the world. I would just consider that others use this kind of thing for their own reasons. There may be UFO's, Bigfoot, or anything else. If there is some kind of chamber in Mt. Shasta is was not put there by any Lemurians that I can tell you for sure. The only hint of anything like that does not come until the late 1800's significantly prior to the later New Age version that is promoted today. The original was more of a reference to Imperial interests and the traditions of Charlemagne.

[blackdog]

...it is strange how the "alternative" public at large wants to ignore hard historical facts in favor of New Age fairy tales about these subjects.




So, are you saying the occult is largely an intelligence operation? Or that these elite families are putting out these ideas which actual have something behind them other than their exoteric meaning - something that these elites really believe in?

There is a real reason this myth was propagated and it does not have much to do with what that Legend describes. Even the people who created it know it is false and what it really represents. They have been initiated into a set of information that lets them recognize such things.

And PS: This goes for the Native American myths supporting the same Enochian concepts. If you check into that no Natives were writing these things down. It was the European people who recorded all these things. I have just this week read several Native myths that read just like the book of Enoch. Are we now supposed to believe that they were long ago exposed to this or that the people who recorded these things had altered them to fit their own view of the world?

Yes there are amazing and freaky things in the world. I would just consider that others use this kind of thing for their own reasons. There may be UFO's, Bigfoot, or anything else. If there is some kind of chamber in Mt. Shasta is was not put there by any Lemurians that I can tell you for sure. The only hint of anything like that does not come until the late 1800's significantly prior to the later New Age version that is promoted today. The original was more of a reference to Imperial interests and the traditions of Charlemagne.

I dont understand what you are saying still. Your book is about Mt Shasta, which is supposed to have some occult-ish qualities and whatnot, and about the elite families and societies that were involved with the building of structures on occult grid lines. You have also said, though, that these elites were essentially Catholic Jesuits. So what did these people really believe? They were misguiding the public with occult stories while really being Catholics in the mainstream Christian sense? I am still confused about this.

What was the elite connection to the occult? What were their true beliefs, in your opinion? If they were using the occult as a tool, how and why were they using it?

[Cartomancer]

I guess this was not clear in the over one and half hours of videos I posted that covers all this. I made and produced those myself using footage I shot from visiting the Mt. Shasta area over the last two years. In addition I worked in the deep woods in the Mt. Shasta area for several years on and off. I live about three hours away from that region. I clearly address your questions in the videos. One reason I made the videos was to explain all this w/ out having to type it all out again etc. Of course there is no easy explanation.

Many of the misunderstandings about "the occult" comes from people's lack of understanding of the culture of eighteenth and nineteenth century in Europe and America. There is one group of Catholic American's who actually played a great hand in the creation of the United States. This comprised about 20 percent of Jacobites in the colonies i.e. those that supported the exiled Stewart Monarchs that were replaced with the English Royalty that you see today. So a huge infrastructure of people who had depended on the James II and crew for their business dealings and such just like today were also exiled and replaced. They did not like this obviously and this in large part resulted in a revolution in the United States and the formation of a Republic here. The Star Spangled Banner (anthem) was written by a Catholic American family and the flag was also produced using their symbols of the British East India Company and the Compostela of St. James. In order to survive persecution the Jacobites and others like them such as the Jacobins of France formed a mystery school apparatus to use for intelligence gathering and effecting the opinion of the public in a way similar to advertising today. In that age they used artists, writers, and others to form these kinds of operations.

Both the names Jacobites and Jacobins refers to St. James. If you look into this kind of value you will see they manipulated future President John Adams into traveling the route of the Camino de Santiago all the from western Spain to Paris because he was one of the founders who did not subscribe to this Jacobite philosophy and really believed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. On this trip with him was also future President John Quincy Adams. This dynamic shows you the difference between the Catholic backed Jacobites and their more rationally minded brothers in the revolution. After the revolution these two groups were left to duke it out for the hearts and minds of the American people. In short they used concepts like Native Myths, Man in the Mountain imagery, Enochian imagery, and Biblical imagery to craft mystery school conundrums such as Oak Island to affect the public consciousness. Was there a reason? Yes. At Oak Island for instance it is clear they were mining gold in that area and the myth we are told is part of covering that up. Throughout each of these mysteries including the Legend of JC Brown at Mt. Shasta is Rosicrucian imagery woven into the story and theosophical concepts as well. These elements include: A subterrainian chamber or souterrain as the French say; A missing treasure; bodies of important royal figures interred in a subterrainian crypt thus inferring the legend of C. Rosenkreutz entombed in a chamber waiting to be discovered.

The bottom line is that I found a great deal of historical inference that a true "Man in the Mountain" myth like those of Charlemagne was applied at Mt. Shasta long before any of these people even began to propagate the myth of Telos at Mt. Shasta so it seems quite a coincidence that this later more "New Age" view of things evolved from. This. No one has exposed this before so I can see why people are having trouble with it. It supplies a cultural and practical rationale for what is going on their that fits thousands of years of similar "mysteries" that have likely been intentionally promoted.

If you want to read some things that straight up tell you how mythology and lore are manipulated look into Emanual Swedenborg and his thoughts on intelligence use of these kinds of Images.

The Gentry class of England and Scotland was transferred to the United States by the Society of the Cincinnati. This is a group of Revolutionary War officers that formed a Society after the war to promote the ideals of the Republic around the world. Only descendants of these men can be members and this group still exists today. This included the French officers who were part of this group who ultimately after the French Revolution and Napoleonic era did in fact create a Republic in France that we see today. This included Pierre L'Enfant (the infant) that designed the streets of Washington D.C. thus leading us to intentionally contrived landscape mysteries that if viewed in their correct light tell you many stories you will not see in history books complete with proof etc.

Now I can't write everything I know here. It is up to you all a little to check into this stuff yourself.

If one does not believe that Native American mythology was manipuated and distorted just look up the Order of Redmen. This group evolved from the famous "Sons of Liberty" and used their interpretation of Native American symbols and myths in a Masonic framework. At the time they viewed this as being "American."

The "grid lines" are also something I have looked into and most people don't like what I have to say about that. Unfortunately it all relates to the legal description of property that does include the occult and talismanic overtones that many people suspect. In addition I have only defined certain aspects of that but did find a clear value all the way from ancient Greece, to Constantine, Charlemagne, Justinia I and II, and the Victorian age during which it became a kind of popular fad to create these kinds of arrays on one's estate using architectural follies such as copies of the Tower of the Winds on English estates. In looking into that I found the origins of the "Hell Fire Club" and the true origins of the motto "Do as thou wilt be the whole of the law." Even Crowley dictated that each OTO temple on the earth faced his home Bolskine House in Scotland (once owned by Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, recently burned down too).

So really if you want to know the answers to your questions this is stuff you all can discover yourselves as well. Also one last tidbit. If you can come to understand Fulcanelli's "Mysteries of the Cathedrals" your views on all of the subject matter you are curious about will be expanded in a large way and you will see what I am talking about. A mystery school was left for you and all are ignoring it favor of others explanations including mine. The "elite" have a strange way of telling the truth and they have left all the answers there for you to decipher. Just for kicks watch the videos I posted as well. I just checked again and most of this is at least addressed in those videos.

[Cartomancer]

If you are fascinated by the concept of the Blackdog then look into Prince Rupert of the Rhine who was the first governor of the Hudson's Bay Company. He is the earliest reference besides Agrippa to have had a blackdog "familiar." His dog would go into battle with him and the enemy was certain this Portuguese Water Dog was a demon! Great stories there. Now note. The Hudson's Bay Company were the first to settle in the Mt. Shasta area and had trading posts on both sides of the Mountain in the early 1800's. So there is one group with a clear line of people you can read about that were involved in all this kind of imagery at Mt. Shasta. They are the origins of the modern views we see there imo. The Hudson's Bay Company left a trail of "mysteries" in their wake including the Kensington Rune which marks the border of French Louisiana and Rupert's Land named for Prince Rupert of the Rhine who is also a blood relative of the real St. Germain.

OK. To address their "true beliefs" they were Jesuits but only the most powerful smaller portion of them. Prince Rupert for instance was a bodyguard of Charles I and II. So was Thomas Beale who came to Virginia and is the origin of the Beale Treasure Legend. Charles I and II were Catholics. Later during James I Catholicism was banned even though this did not work. In response again they created a mystery school apparatus to survive and many people were "hidden Catholics" that even had hidden chapels in their homes etc. This includes Captain Archer of Jamestown whose grave was recently excavated including a silver reliquary that only a Catholic would have. The records show his family was Jesuit and he was a "hidden Catholic." After the revolution the Constitution included freedom of religion which allowed Catholics to take a mainstream place in American society but they continued to use the secret org that they had created earlier to survive. See. Even the Beale Treasure is an intentionally contrived mystery which compels one to read the Declaration of Independence over and over in order to solve "the mystery."

[Cartomancer]

Origins of the name Mt. Shasta. Every reference to the name "Shasta" came after the Russian Colony had been established in California in 1812. The Russian Imperial family is also directly related to the Stewarts, Prince Rupert, Elizabeth of Bohemia, St. Germain and the modern English Royal family. Later Nicolas Roerich and Helena Blavatsky both Russians would have a major impact on views that were later said to be part of the legacy of Mt. Shasta. Even the ethnographers who applied the name "Shasta" to the Natives near the mountain did so about forty years after the Russians had been in California. Again the Hudson's Bay Company was owned and operated by direct relatives of Russian, English, and German nobility of the Stewart family who gave us St. Germain. The Hudson's Bay Company were the first to settle the Mt. Shasta area so there is a direct connection suggesting it is entirely possible the Russians are responsible for even naming Mt. Shasta.

6. Early Exploration: Russian Explorers, 1812-41
That "Shasta" is a Russian name is one of the most interesting of Mt. Shasta legends. Unfortunately there are not many documents supporting this idea, and it is difficult to find materials on this subject. The classic account of the Russian derivation of the name "Shasta" was by historian Harry Wells. He explained in his 1881 History of Siskiyou County that the Russians who settled at Bodega could see Mt. Shasta from the highest mountains of the Coast Range, and called it "Tchastal," or the white and pure mountain. He explained that the early Americans adopted the name, pronouncing it "Chasta." Wells's account, and other accounts related to the American trappers' pronunciation and spelling of "Chasta," will be found in Section 14. The Name Shasta. The 1821 diary of Argüello as discussed in Section 5. Early Exploration: Spanish Expedition 1808-1821 lends support that the Russians had found their way into the Sacramento Valley. See also Michael Zanger's book Mt. Shasta: History, Legend and Lore for a discussion of the 1841 ascent of Mt. St. Helena by a Russian from Bodega Bay. In this section are a few entries which may provide leads to future research into this important aspect of Mt. Shasta history. It stands to reason that the Russians, who settled in Bodega Bay in 1812, would have ventured inland more than once or twice; the problem is finding evidence to that effect. There is also a large body of evidence which suggests that the name "Shasta" is not derived from a Russian word at all, but is derived from Native American tribal name.

Now. Given this let us not forget that N. California was originally claimed by Sir Francis Drake of England and was called "New Albion."

http://www.siskiyous.edu/shasta/his/

[Cartomancer]

The Order of Redmen and Pluto's Cave near Mt. Shasta. Some of the footage in my second video was shot at Pluto's Cave near Mt. Shasta. The Order of Redmen at one time had their initiation ceremony there thus again echoing the value of "emerging from the underworld and questing for the stone." There is a list of members of the Order of Redmen from 1907 and 1908 on the walls of Pluto's Cave. This group was very active in the Mt. Shasta area. President Jefferson was an original member. This group in some ways was the blue collar version of the Society of the Cincinnati. To say this group did not manipulate Native American imagery is just not true. Even Pluto's Cave is a Native American cultural site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_Order_of_Red_Men

[blackdog]

I guess this was not clear in the over one and half hours of videos I posted that covers all this. I made and produced those myself using footage I shot from visiting the Mt. Shasta area over the last two years. In addition I worked in the deep woods in the Mt. Shasta area for several years on and off. I live about three hours away from that region. I clearly address your questions in the videos. One reason I made the videos was to explain all this w/ out having to type it all out again etc. Of course there is no easy explanation.

I'm sorry, but you have not been clear with respect to what I have been asking. I have watched at least 3-4 hours of your material. You do not have to re-post the material in the videos.

How is it that these elite families and influential people are purposely building on these grid lines, which I assume would be unknown to the common man, but they are not influenced by occult ideas?



Both the names Jacobites and Jacobins refers to St. James.

Jacob is also Israel, the real meaning of which is an important occult concept.

I would argue that Freemasons and related networks were very important in the French and American Revolutions. I suspect the American flag is Masonic as well, featuring the five-pointed Blazing Star.


No one has exposed this before so I can see why people are having trouble with it. It supplies a cultural and practical rationale for what is going on their that fits thousands of years of similar "mysteries" that have likely been intentionally promoted.

I am not having trouble with the "man in the mountain" being a myth that has been passed down. That's fine with me.

It seems, though, from what you have said so far, that you are combining various occult and semi-occult topics and then saying they are being discredited for a variety of reasons. Yet, I dont see how some of these topics are related and/or interchangeable. Maybe bigfoot and ufo's are considered 'occult' by certain groups, but I dont think they are by other groups.


This included the French officers who were part of this group who ultimately after the French Revolution and Napoleonic era did in fact create a Republic in France that we see today. This included Pierre L'Enfant (the infant) that designed the streets of Washington D.C. thus leading us to intentionally contrived landscape mysteries that if viewed in their correct light tell you many stories you will not see in history books complete with proof etc.

The American Revolution and French Revolution were Masonic, and Napoleon was a Mason who went to Egypt to see the pyramids, which are built on ley lines. The design and buildings of Washington DC are Masonic. The Great Seal, with its pyramid and capstone, is Masonic.

I am sure you know this, but Washington DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Atlanta, and Mexico City are built on a line that runs through Stonehenge. This must have taken some planning by powerful people, and it certainly seems to have something to do with ley lines.

I just dont understand how you are presenting the grid lines and the occult debunking theory at the same time.


The "grid lines" are also something I have looked into and most people don't like what I have to say about that. Unfortunately it all relates to the legal description of property that does include the occult and talismanic overtones that many people suspect. In addition I have only defined certain aspects of that but did find a clear value all the way from ancient Greece, to Constantine, Charlemagne, Justinia I and II, and the Victorian age during which it became a kind of popular fad to create these kinds of arrays on one's estate using architectural follies such as copies of the Tower of the Winds on English estates. In looking into that I found the origins of the "Hell Fire Club" and the true origins of the motto "Do as thou wilt be the whole of the law." Even Crowley dictated that each OTO temple on the earth faced his home Bolskine House in Scotland (once owned by Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, recently burned down too).

This would suggest to me that there is a strain of occult history being carried through time by the elites. This history would include the proper interpretation of Christianity, Israel, Zion, New Jerusalem, the Christ, etc. Perhaps it includes occult science as well, which could involve ley lines.

The occult/Crowley influenced Led Zeppelin has a song called Black Dog.


So really if you want to know the answers to your questions this is stuff you all can discover yourselves as well. Also one last tidbit. If you can come to understand Fulcanelli's "Mysteries of the Cathedrals" your views on all of the subject matter you are curious about will be expanded in a large way and you will see what I am talking about. A mystery school was left for you and all are ignoring it favor of others explanations including mine.

I have read Fulcanelli's "Mysteries of the Cathedrals." I must have a different interpretation. The occult stories were built into the cathedrals. Notre Dame (Our Lady, or the goddess) has two towers with a rose window in between. When the oppositions represented by the towers (yin/yang) are united, the kundalini (symbolized by the rose) rises, activating the chakras and initiating higher consciousness.


The "elite" have a strange way of telling the truth and they have left all the answers there for you to decipher. Just for kicks watch the videos I posted as well. I just checked again and most of this is at least addressed in those videos.

Here again you are saying the elites are telling the truth, but you still have not said what this truth is. I've watched the videos you posted.

[blackdog]

If you are fascinated by the concept of the Blackdog then look into Prince Rupert of the Rhine who was the first governor of the Hudson's Bay Company. He is the earliest reference besides Agrippa to have had a blackdog "familiar." His dog would go into battle with him and the enemy was certain this Portuguese Water Dog was a demon!

My use of 'blackdog' is a reference to Sirius or, perhaps more likely, Sirius B, the black dog star.


In response again they created a mystery school apparatus to survive and many people were "hidden Catholics" that even had hidden chapels in their homes etc. This includes Captain Archer of Jamestown whose grave was recently excavated including a silver reliquary that only a Catholic would have. The records show his family was Jesuit and he was a "hidden Catholic."

I cant address your specifics, but I have a hard time believing those truly in-the-know could be Catholics because Catholicism is a scam and a lie set up and kept alive by powerful people who know its a scam. Many argue that the Jesuits are well aware of the occulted stories behind exoteric Christianity.

[Cartomancer]

I can tell by your intentionally obtuse questions you don't really understand anything at all. If you think Jacobites are associated with Jacob then you are lost right there. That is something you can word search and find that i am correct yet you sit here with a straight face saying Jacobite does not relate to St. James? It does not refer to Jacob it refers to St. James i.e. Iago, Jacques, Jacobus the German version etc. It is a word trick that does not refer to Jacob at all.

I mean your analysis of an octagonal structure includes it representing the hexagram or Star of David right? So I can see how in your world you would not understand anything I am saying. In the several years I have been writing about this you seem to be the only person that can't understand it. This system of temporally sensitive structures was used to claim property and define a domain of a ruler not for any paranormal purposes beyond beliefs that were applied to them like divining info from the birds.

Each one of your questions is riddled with misunderstandings and new age lore that you seem to want to believe is true. If you don't think I have answered your questions then I don't know what to tell you because I am not going to address any more questions from you. I am in the middle of another book and video production so don't have too much time to type out lengthy responses that just don't satisfy you. I would love for you to study up on ley lines etc and let me comment on your ideas.

You don't understand Fulcanelli that is plain to see. If you don't know what a Jacobite is how can you begin to see the secrets of Iago in the text of the book? You read a chapter there about the Palace of Jacques Coeur and you don't know what a Jacobite is?

PS If you plot the line of the cities you are talking about they most assuredly do not point to Stonehenge. Talk about the Mandala effect. Oh my. You apparently can't discern and/or handle the truth. I can see you get all your esoteric info from documentaries like "Riddles in Stone" and the like. Wow. That is one of the most overgeneralized examples of "ley lines" you can state. I mean at what point in each city do you use for a reference? You could make that alignment point to many places other than Stonehenge.

I don't even write about "Ley Lines." That is kind of something different. Certain structures were used to claim property because they measured time from there = the measurement of space. Templars using templates to create temples that defined the temporal fabric. Read up on what the Tower of the Winds was and the array of obelisk and 'windrose" markers at the Vatican suggest. To claim England lets say Elizabeth had Star Castle in the Isles of Scilly built. Their claim was referenced from there i.e. distance and bearing from there to the site of claim. These are the alignments that were then built upon and had additional talismanic structures associated. The most simple version of this is the National Mall.

Your views of Masons and their impact is a misunderstanding imo. That is hard to believe I know because of all the anti-masonic stuff in popular media today. If you look into it you will see the Scottish Rite is an apparatus of the Jacobites and this is what caused the King of France to eject Bonnie Prince Charlie from France. If you doubt the influence of the Catholic Church in what I have found go look up where the tomb of Bonnie Prince Charlie and James II is located. Most Masons actually fought for a real version of the Republic and not the corporate state that many of the landed gentry who had been in the inner circle of James and Bonnie saw in the creation of the U.S. this later leads to Burr shooting Alexander Hamilton. Based on your questions you have a lot of American and European history you are not considering.

I answered all of your questions to the best of my ability now please leave me alone. Thank you. You have effectively ruined this thread imo. I would prefer you do not post anything else here or on anything I post on Project Avalon. You and DNA began this exchange by accusing me of profiteering and cast an entirely bad vibe on this whole thing while apparently enjoying the controversy in association with the other Shasta thread. Leave me alone please.

[Cartomancer]

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[blackdog]

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I've already answered this. The midsection is an octagon, and the building has eight sides. I agree with that, so stop skewing what I say please.

There is no way to dispute that the SIDES of One World Trade are triangular...when looking FROM THE SIDE. You can certainly disagree with the argument that these triangles are meant to represent a hexagram because that is an interpretation, but there is no way you can say THE SIDES are not triangular.

http://i.imgur.com/XHD1f1rm.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/TEfYcS1m.jpg

Anyway, that's not what we were discussing. That was from another thread you interrupted to tell people about your Mt Shasta book and videos. Now, you've involved me in this conversation, but you do not like what I'm saying, so you want me to leave.

[blackdog]

That is something you can word search and find that i am correct yet you sit here with a straight face saying Jacobite does not relate to St. James?

I didnt say the Jacobites were not related to the name James, St. James, or King James.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_(name) :




"James is the English language New Testament (Vulgar/Later Latin) form of the Hebrew name Yaʻaqov (known as Jacob in its earlier Latin form). The name James came into the English language from the Old French variation James of the late Latin name Iacomus. This was a Vulgar/Later Latin (proto-Romance) variant of the earlier Latin form Iacobus, from the New Testament Greek Ἰάκωβος (Iákōbos), from Hebrew יעקב (Yaʻaqov) (Jacob)."

I googled St. James and found there is a St. Jame's Palace, which interestingly has a hexagram on it. It is inside a diamond shape, and this has occult significance, as well, imo. The argument would be that the names of religious figures, kings, movements, landmarks, symbols often have multiple meanings, and that the esoteric meaning has been preserved through time by prominent people, which would include royalty.

http://i.imgur.com/P9MH9Eqm.jpg

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_James%27s_Palace :




"St James's Palace is the official residence of the sovereign and the most senior royal palace in the United Kingdom. Located in the City of Westminster, although no longer the principal residence of the monarch, it is the ceremonial meeting place of the Accession Council and the London residence of several members of the royal family.
"Built by Henry VIII on the site of a leper hospital dedicated to Saint James the Less, the palace was secondary in importance to the Palace of Whitehall for most Tudor and Stuart monarchs."

The British flag is the Union Jack. "[Jack] can also sometimes be a nickname for Jonathan, Jackson, James, Jason, or Jacob." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_(given_name)

It is the Union Jack because of the union of oppositions, which is what the hexagram represents. Israel is the promised land where the oppositions will be united and enlightenment achieved.


In the several years I have been writing about this you seem to be the only person that can't understand it. This system of temporally sensitive structures was used to claim property and define a domain of a ruler not for any paranormal purposes beyond beliefs that were applied to them like divining info from the birds.

Well, at least you are defining what these lines mean here, somewhat.


Each one of your questions is riddled with misunderstandings and new age lore that you seem to want to believe is true.

No, it is not that I want to believe 'new age' lore and paranormal 'freakiness', which is what you seem to think the occult is all about. It is that I suspect the elites are interested in the occult, especially occult history. That is why I was interested in what you were saying and why I was surprised and confused to find you were saying something else.


You don't understand Fulcanelli that is plain to see.

Not sure what you want Fulcanelli to represent. He supports exactly what I am saying, namely that a secret tradition was passed down over hundreds of years. Included in this would be the idea that religious concepts and characters have esoteric or occult meanings, as well. The cover of the book calls him a "Master Alchemist."

From https://www.amazon.com/Fulcanelli-Alchemist-Cathedrales-Esoteric-Intrepretation/dp/0914732145 "




"In 1926 the fabled alchemist Fulcanelli left his remarkable manuscript concerning the Hermetic Study of Gothic Cathedral Construction with a student. He than disappeared. The book decodes the symbology found upon and within the Gothic Cathedrals of Europe which have openly displayed the secrets of alchemy for 700 years."


PS If you plot the line of the cities you are talking about they most assuredly do not point to Stonehenge. Talk about the Mandala effect. Oh my. You apparently can't discern and/or handle the truth. I can see you get all your esoteric info from documentaries like "Riddles in Stone" and the like. Wow. That is one of the most overgeneralized examples of "ley lines" you can state. I mean at what point in each city do you use for a reference? You could make that alignment point to many places other than Stonehenge.

Actually, I think I did hear about this on something like "Riddles in Stone" and also on television. Yet, I also drew a line through these cities on Google Earth to see if it was true, and a couple more cities, like Atlanta and Mexico City were close to this line.

http://i.imgur.com/80qBNZam.png http://i.imgur.com/Zgcz4Hdm.png

I only brought it up to make a point based on something I assumed you were interested in, but I guess these lines which coincide with sacred sites and important structures are just property markers.


I don't even write about "Ley Lines." That is kind of something different. Certain structures were used to claim property because they measured time from there = the measurement of space. Templars using templates to create temples that defined the temporal fabric. Read up on what the Tower of the Winds was and the array of obelisk and 'windrose" markers at the Vatican suggest. To claim England lets say Elizabeth had Star Castle in the Isles of Scilly built. Their claim was referenced from there i.e. distance and bearing from there to the site of claim. These are the alignments that were then built upon and had additional talismanic structures associated. The most simple version of this is the National Mall.

Ok. So these lines have no 'occult' qualities. I dont even remember now, but I thought Mt Shasta was on one of these lines and that was part of this whole thing and that wouldnt be a man-made structure. I dont get why One World Trade Center would be built on one of your lines in modern times either, but whatever.


Your views of Masons and their impact is a misunderstanding imo. That is hard to believe I know because of all the anti-masonic stuff in popular media today. If you look into it you will see the Scottish Rite is an apparatus of the Jacobites and this is what caused the King of France to eject Bonnie Prince Charlie from France. If you doubt the influence of the Catholic Church in what I have found go look up where the tomb of Bonnie Prince Charlie and James II is located. Most Masons actually fought for a real version of the Republic and not the corporate state that many of the landed gentry who had been in the inner circle of James and Bonnie saw in the creation of the U.S. this later leads to Burr shooting Alexander Hamilton. Based on your questions you have a lot of American and European history you are not considering.

I have to speak generally, and there are a lot of variables. This Masonic/occult tradition is driving history, and you seem to be ignorant of it. It takes various forms, experiences vicissitudes, manifests in different ways, and is carried through different people and organizations who sometimes disagree with each other.


You have effectively ruined this thread imo. I would prefer you do not post anything else here or on anything I post on Project Avalon.

I dont think I have ruined the thread. I think I have caused it to rise...like a phoenix...rising...from Arizona.

[blackdog]

Now, I've gone back and looked at two of your shorter videos about 9/11. They are called 911 Occult Ritual: The Geomancy and Ley lines of New York City and 911 Nine eleven Occult Ritual Geomancy of the Freedom Tower in New York City.

You continue to baffle me. Here you are calling 9/11 an occult ritual? And, you use the term 'ley lines'?

http://i.imgur.com/KvD5fp5m.png You use this pic which makes it look like you have connected the Eastern US cities on the left side of the image.

http://i.imgur.com/d1VgHkpm.png You show a couple of these statues which are in multiple locations, including the UN. It is a new world emerging out of the old, as in the New World Order.

You point out the pineal gland statue at Vatican.

You say the Twin Towers may have represented Jachin and Boaz.

You show the Millenium Hilton Hotel, which is shaped like the 2001 monolith, which is from a movie about alchemical transformation. Yet you use the alchemist Fulcanelli against me?

I dont get it. You are showing occult influence and then debunking it at the same time? I agree with a lot of what you are saying, and then you mock me for holding these same opinions? What is going on?

[Cartomancer]

Here announced again is episode 3 of my series Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed. This series tell the truth about the history of Mt. Shasta which does not include missing persons, and anything near what most people are being sold about Mt. Shasta. Right here on Project Avalon is another version of Mt.Shasta that is entirely gross over speculation based on what it is you might buy. The truth is here. Stay tuned for part 4. There is no city beneath Mt. Shasta and the Legend of J.C. Brown is a gross hoax meant to advertise one persons vision of what was going on at Mt. Shasta, coincidentally also a money making enterprise. To me is it awful strange that I have been here since 2011 and the month I release a book about Mt. Shasta another author shows up here with a book nearly exactly even titled the way my book is. NOTE THAT I PUBLISHED MY BOOK LONG BEFORE THIS NEW BOOK. This is the title to my book: Mysteries and Legends of Northern California: Mt. Shasta Revealed. Now compare it to the name of the other book the author of which I know for 100% certain knew I had published my book and knew what the title was. Then he decides to publish a book w/ an nearly identical title w/ information designed to counter what I am saying in my book. Buy it if you will. I think someone should question this other author as to his associations with groups that believe this kind of thing. Ask him is he is part of any secret orders or societies. You all are being b.s.'s as much as possible and no one is questioning it. Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxy-9NPrB7w

Hello Cort, I really don't see my book in competition with yours Mount Shasta is a big enough place to allow for more than one viewpoint. And as we've been friends on Facebook for years, you know that I've been working on my book for years and the title has not changed. I regret that you now see me as an adversary, but my book is very different and my intent in writing it was to cover the prehistoric lore and Native American legends about Mount Shasta. I have over 300 historical references cited in the book that can be fact checked. If this information counters what you've written, it's not because I have any personal bias against your work or an agenda, I wrote a history book largely based on Mount Shasta's Native American lore and local legends. I believe Native American traditions and legends do in fact preserve accurate memories of past historical events, and that's the premise of my book. Most all the material in my book goes into the prehistoric history of Mount Shasta and is from Native American lore, so I don't really understand how it counters what you've written. I really don't want to get into an argument here, I'm fine by letting people judge it by its own merits, and I think all the historical references I cited in the book will speak for themselves so I don't feel the need to defend myself against critics.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Z9M_VORp0&list=FLJBvmWn8_JKU3efJtpidX-Q&index=1&t=35s

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Here is another opinion on what the Castle Crags "petroglyphs" really are. Nothing to do with the Legend of J.C. Brown or other "new age" legends of Mt. Shasta imo. There are other similar glyphs throughout the west that are associated w/ John Fremont and other Pioneers. I published an article about this in 2009 in my publication "True History Journal."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Z9M_VORp0&list=FLJBvmWn8_JKU3efJtpidX-Q&index=1&t=35s

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