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Cara
8th November 2016, 16:16
There seem to be a lot of paths leading to Family Trusts, "Philanthropic" Foundations and Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs) as the instruments through which many world events are manipulated.

These show up all over the news stories and are often referenced in threads here on Avalon.

Examples:

The George Soros linked NGOs - through the Open Society Foundation - manipulating events and the narrative. Most recently discussed here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93703-George-Soros-to-invest-500-million-towards-the-further-destabilization-of-Europe

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation linked to vaccination programmes, as discussed here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?93037-Dr.-Andrew-Wakefield-Discusses-His-Discredited-Study-31-8-16-other-interviews&p=1103491&highlight=Gates#post1103491

The Rockefeller Foundation and its manipulation of a wide range of areas, but most recently education as mentioned here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1103767&highlight=Gates#post1103767

The Clinton Foundation and its Pay-for-Play links to Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State as well as its alleged dirty dealings in Haiti, discussed in many threads at the moment, but here are a couple:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91646-FBI-quizzes-Hillary-Clinton-on-emails-2-July-2016-Hillary-Lied-Under-Oath.....&p=1111941&highlight=clinton+foundation#post1111941
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94311-DEA-Official-Spills-the-Beans-on-the-Clinton-Foundation--not-just-sexual-abuse-maybe-all-about-drugs-
and many more...

The purpose of this thread is to try to act as a "catch-all" for Family Foundation, Trust and NGO information.

Please share and contribute any and all information about these "not so hidden hands" and their influence on the world today.

Thank you

Cara
8th November 2016, 16:53
To begin, here is a link to the extensive research done by the Institute for the Study of Covert Politics and Globalization (https://isgp-studies.com/index)

This site has a vast amount of research and documentation on corporation structures and holdings, NGOs, key figures, etc. (It also explores child sex trafficking / pedophilia rings.)

Here is the introductory information to the site's research on NGOs.

https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide

Supranational society: Masterlist of 1,300 NGOs and the top 400 people in them (https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide)

By: Joël van der Reijden | First version: August 9, 2005 | Last update: August 17, 2016 | NGO Study Center (https://isgp-studies.com/ngo.php)

https://isgp-studies.com/design/images/intro/NGOs.jpg


The friendship Nancy and I shared with Kay Graham is one of the legacies of my government service that we cherish most. ... The Kay of the permanent establishment never lost sight of the fact that societies thrive not by the victories of their factions but by their ultimate reconciliations. Kay and I met in 1969 at the home of Joe Alsop, another member of Washington's permanent establishment.
July 23, 2001, Henry Kissinger, Eulogy for Katharine Graham of the Washington Post.

...


[Think tanks] exert definite and even considerable influence on the process of elaborating and making political decisions. It is connected with the fact that ... leaders of such centers have as a rule personal close links with the [government]. Second, the centers are created in order to prepare and adopt the major political decisions in the shade, far from public. Third, such analytical and expert centers really accumulate the best intellectual forces of the country and fourth, not always but rather often, the centers were founded simply to provide jobs to [retired] politicians.
1999, Yuri Pivovarov, 'Power Institutions in Post-Communist Russia: Official Forms and Hidden Transcrips,' p. 18 (NATO library). The influence of Russian think tanks on the executive body seems to be many times less than is the case in the United States, but the reasons for their existence seem to be the same.

Introduction

Note: The names of institutes and individuals on this page have been gathered over the course of hundreds of hours from books, newspapers, official websites (don't forget Webarchive), regular websites (names were always double checked), a number of membership lists, and the Who's Who. ISGP's membership/biography lists related to the Pilgrims, the 1001, the American Security Council, Le Cercle and other groups were used as a starting point to find all these private groups. Many sources can be found in those lists or in various articles on this website, but certainly not all - and unfortunately there's no time to include all the sources here. This page has primarily been put together to make cross referencing a hundred times easier than before.

People studying political science should have a good idea of the non-government organizations listed on this page. They vary considerable in purpose and influence, but are an integral part of the globalization process, as well as intelligence and covert operations. For an explanation of the establishments termed "Liberal", "Conservative", "Zionist" and "Vatican-Paneuropa", in which these groups are largely divided, the reader can visit the introduction page.

The names of these groups/NGOs have been collected by the author of this site over the course of eight to nine years. All really low level institutes have been left out - there are probably over a 1000 more filled with names nobody knows and which really have no influence.

What keeps this entire network afloat are funds from corporations, foundations, membership fees, fund raisers and occasional government grants is. Ban the foundations, curb corporate contributions, and the whole network will start to fall apart. I'm not necessarily saying that this is a solution.

Interestingly, back in early 2004 this author was unable to find more than six or seven of the more important organizations below on one website or in one book, even after looking for it all over the place. Often groups like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission were mixed in with the "Illuminati", the "Freemasons" and the "New World Order". Tiny bits of information on such groups as the Pilgrims, Le Cercle, the 1001 Club, the JASON Group, the Sun Valley Meetings and others were scattered all over the place and often not freely accessible. Information on mainland Europe with regard to these kind of groups was especially scarce. And in all cases no one had a clue how various groups related to each other. As the reader can see, things have changed. A lot!

...
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From: https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide

Cara
8th November 2016, 16:57
And here is something I saw this weekend signalling current relationships in the Family Foundation and Philanthropy world.

In the British newspaper, the Financial Times (FT) this weekend, there was a full page advert for the FT Philanthropy & Global Impact Summit. It is to be held at Rhodes House, Oxford University.

https://www.eiseverywhere.com/file_uploads/bfb62a4f2c9c143987bceaa73973bf39_10123_IA_FO_Oxfor d_Website_header4.jpg

Here is information on the event: https://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/index.php?eventid=203858&

So here is an interesting chain of relationships and links:
Family trusts <->
Global Impact <->
Rhodes House (and scholarships and some of the previous holders, e.g. Bill Clinton) <->
Oxford University <->
Financial Times (FT)

What an interesting nexus of relationships!

Cara
9th November 2016, 06:39
Here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94311-DEA-Official-Spills-the-Beans-on-the-Clinton-Foundation--not-just-sexual-abuse-maybe-all-about-drugs-&p=1111453&viewfull=1#post1111453) - DEA Official Spills the Beans on the Clinton Foundation (not just sexual abuse: maybe all about drugs) - @Bob posted about the Gates Foundation and their support for vaccines as well as the Clinton Foundation "disbursement" of funds.

Bold, coloured text highlights are my emphasis.


Kinda fascinating that Bill and Melinda Gate's foundation and the Clinton Foundation are bosom buddies. http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/the-clinton-foundations-corruption-captures-supporters-including-bill-gates/

As we know Gates pushes worldwide mandatory vaccination using mercury laden vaccines, which are known to create immune damage (auto-immune response maladies for instance), where the dumbing down of those vaccinated is the end result (as well as some anti-body response). What is the primary goal? Dumbing down or immunity. My guess is with the mercury compounds it is to make those inoculated with the mercury to be compromised mentally.. With an idea that those compromised no longer would pose a threat, being able to 'connect the dots'.. I don't have any issue with vaccines which don't contain mercury, I do have immense issue with those that do. The discernment comes from understanding the molecular makeup of the vaccine. Proper anti-body production is fine... adding "adjunctives" as they like to call it, such as shark tissue extracts cause awful auto-immune responses.. And mercury, that is horrendous as a toxin to the damage done to the mitochondria (see my thread in Alt Med, Magnesium Bicarbonate to understand this more from a personal experience...

The Clinton Foundation is a sham. Putting 6% into programs where the rest goes to overhead, such as personal salaries to the owners, those working on the project, and other overhead such as going to the areas to make 'speeches'.. etc.


One can make the argument that the Clinton Foundation is a kind of organized crime racket.

The Clintons have ties to officials at the most important multinationals, banks and governments.

That includes Gates. None of these people can easily afford to antagonize her.

Bill and Hillary have surely used their power and influence to secretly steer US government relationships and resources to those who donated to the Foundation.

She has been accused of being especially active in soliciting donations during her time as Secretary of State.

Any donor can become a money laundering suspect if charges are leveled at Hillary Clinton and then, inevitably, at the Foundation itself.

It would seem the world’s most powerful people have a stake in ensuring that Hillary walks.

Paul, predicting that the 'chaos' would increase is certainly an understatement..

Still seems to me, What is needed is for Folks to connect the dots, the voters to connect the dots, the rest of the World to connect the dots. When the people wake up, the tyrants do get very edgy.. Reactive even..

Cara
9th November 2016, 10:02
Here is an organisation in the USA called SourceWatch:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/SourceWatch

Their objective seems to be to keep track of organisations and individuals who have influence on the policy and activities of government. From the site:



The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) publishes SourceWatch, this collaborative, specialized encyclopedia of the people, organizations, and issues shaping the public agenda. SourceWatch profiles the activities of front groups, PR spinners, industry-friendly experts, industry-funded organizations, and think tanks trying to manipulate public opinion on behalf of corporations or government. We also highlight key public policies they are trying to affect and provide ways to get involved. In addition, SourceWatch contains information about others who help document information about PR spin, such as reporters, academics, and watchdog groups.

To get started, there's a link to your left on the basics of how you can help write history. We also have guides, such as how to research front groups and uncover propaganda tactics, such as the use of the "third party technique," as well as great insider tips for web researching.

Launched in 2003, SourceWatch now has 72,327 articles, as of today, thanks to interested contributors like you, and over six million new visitors to its pages a year and many returning visitors who rely on our articles regularly.

Welcome to the SourceWatch community! Lisa Graves, Executive Director of the Center for Media and Democracy, publisher of SourceWatch, PRWatch, and BanksterUSA


The site is in the form of a Wiki, and it appears that anyone can sign up to become a contributor.

There are relatively detailed entries on:

George Soros - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/George_Soros
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

but not much on
The Clinton Foundation - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=William_J._Clinton_Foundation&redirect=no - not sure if this infers a bias to the Wiki or not.


In spite of this oversight, overall I think this is a good source of information for NGOs and Foundations with lots of links and citations to further information

Cara
9th November 2016, 10:19
And here is another source for information on the power players, called Muckety:

http://news.muckety.com/

From the site:


Welcome to Muckety, where interactive maps enable you to explore relationships of the rich, powerful and connected.

We list top government and political figures, as well as board members of Fortune 1000 companies, major nonprofits and influential colleges.

We show lobbyists, political contributors, Hollywood celebs and pop culture icons. Occasionally, we even map fictional characters such as Harry Potter.


Included are many maps of various rich and powerful individuals and their relationships to others. Here is an example one of George Soros:
http://www.muckety.com/maps/4166.png

These maps are interactive and you can navigate through the relationships (you need Flash installed for this).

Each map also includes an information outline of the person:



George Soros
Hedge funder
Gender: Male
Age in 2016: 86

Address: Lives and/or works in
New York, NY

Wealth class: Billionaire

Susan Weber Soros map

Areas of interest:

nonprofits
education
business
media
politics & government


Politics: Soros is a contributor to Democratic committees and campaigns.
He also has affiliations with center-left think tanks.

Personal social network: Much of Soros's Muckety comes from political connections.
He is listed in the Muckety 400.

Philanthropy: Soros pledged $100 million to Human Rights Watch in 2010. He pledged $60 million the following year to Bard College.

Financial information:
As an officer, director and/or owner of publicly traded securities, Soros has filed documents with the Securities and Exchange Commission. >> See filings

George Soros personal relations:

Tamiko Bolton - spouse
Michael Douglas - friend
Alexander Soros - son
Andrea Soros - daughter
Daisy M. Soros - sister-in-law
Gregory Soros - son
Jeffrey Soros - nephew
Jonathan Soros - son
Paul Soros (deceased) - brother
Robert Soros - son
Michael Vachon - political director


Other current George Soros relationships:

Brain Trauma Foundation - director
Breakthrough Energy Coalition - member
Bretton Woods Committee - member
Council on Foreign Relations - member
Drug Policy Alliance - director
Earth Institute - advisory board member
Geosor Corp. - owner
Institute for New Economic Thinking - co-founder
International Crisis Group - board member
Most Influential New Yorkers - listed
Open Society Foundations - founder & chairman
Quantum Fund - founder
Ready PAC - co-chair, national finance council
Refugees International - director emeritus
Soros Charitable Foundation - trustee
Soros Economic Development Fund - founder
Soros Fund Charitable Foundation - director
Soros Fund Management - founder
Soros Humanitarian Foundation - chair
Soros Strategic Partners - founder


George Soros past relationships:

2009 Barack Obama inaugural committee - major contributor
America Coming Together - supporter
American Bridge 21st Century - contributor
Marcy Blum - 2013 wedding coordinator
Bono - attended 2013 wedding reception
Catalist - investor
Center for American Progress - supporter
Michael Crichton (deceased) - bought Bedford (NY) estate from
Democracy Alliance - member
Foundation to Promote Open Society - chairman
Harlem Children's Zone - benefactor
Human Rights Watch - benefactor
Toomas Ilves - guest at 2013 wedding
Immigrant Voters Win - contributor
Joint Victory Campaign - contributor
Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - supporter
Jim Yong Kim - guest at 2013 wedding
Christine Lagarde - attended 2013 wedding reception
Laureate Education Inc. - investor
Majority PAC - contributor
Media Fund - contributor
MoveOn.org - contributor
Gavin Newsom - invited to 2013 wedding reception
NPR - benefactor
OneWest Bank Group LLC - investor
Nancy Pelosi - invited to 2013 wedding reception
Priorities USA Action - contributor
Julian H. Robertson Jr. - invited to 2013 wedding reception
Safety & Justice - contributor
Mark Schwartz - senior adviser
Ellen Johnson Sirleaf - guest at 2013 wedding
Annaliese Witschak Soros - spouse
Susan Weber Soros - spouse
White House visits (2009) - visitor
Kimba M. Wood - officiated at 2013 wedding
World Economic Forum 2008 - attendee
World Economic Forum 2009 - attendee
William D. Zabel - divorce lawyer


Additional Muckety map information sources:

Alpha Magazine
Bloomberg
Daily Beast
Federal Election Commission
Forbes
Guidestar
New York Times
Securities and Exchange Commission
Syracuse Post-Standard


Muckety draws information from thousands of sources. For a list of primary government and news sites, see our Sources page.

Contributor on Dem-Rep spectrum

George Soros campaign contributions:
Listed below are federal donations of $3,000+ reported to the FEC.

Sos for Democracy - $250,000 on 6/19/2014
Wake County Democratic Party Federal Campaign Committee - $10,000 on 7/17/2014
Nunn Victory Fund - $10,000 on 8/5/2014
Win Minnesota Federal PAC - $35,000 on 7/7/2014
Pac for a Level Playing Field - $5,000 on 12/26/2014
Friends of Democracy - $250,000 on 9/12/2014
House Majority Pac - $500,000 on 7/11/2014
Planned Parenthood Votes - $500,000 on 9/12/2014
League of Conservation Voters Victory Fund - $500,000 on 7/16/2014
Senate Majority PAC - $500,000 on 9/16/2014
Peters for Michigan - $5,200 on 6/20/2014
Peters for Michigan - $5,200 on 6/20/2014
Connecticut Democratic State Central Committee - $10,000 on 9/22/2014
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee - $33,400 on 5/31/2015
Kentucky State Democratic Central Executive Committee - $10,000 on 10/16/2014
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $32,400 on 6/27/2014
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $5,200 on 6/12/2014
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $5,200 on 6/12/2014
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $5,200 on 6/12/2014
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $20,000 on 3/31/2013
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee - $20,000 on 3/31/2014
American Bridge 21st Century - $500,000 on 2/7/2014
American Bridge 21st Century - $500,000 on 12/30/2013
Friends of Democracy - $5,000 on 12/20/2013
Pac for a Level Playing Field - $5,000 on 11/22/2013
Ready for Hillary PAC - $25,000 on 9/14/2013
Priorities USA Action - $1,000,000 on 10/4/2012
House Majority Pac - $250,000 on 10/2/2012
Progressive Change Campaign Committee - $5,000 on 7/16/2012
House Majority Pac - $100,000 on 8/31/2012
Planned Parenthood Action Fund Inc. PAC - $5,000 on 8/2/2012
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee - $20,000 on 6/21/2012
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $20,000 on 6/22/2012
American Bridge 21st Century - $1,000,000 on 6/15/2012
Leadership That Listens PAC - $5,000 on 6/13/2012
Majority PAC - $100,000 on 12/29/2011
Pac to the Future - $5,000 on 6/17/2011
Campaign for Our Country - $5,000 on 2/7/2011
House Majority Pac - $75,000 on 5/19/2011
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $25,000 on 11/18/2010
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee - $20,000 on 6/29/2010
Pac to the Future - $5,000 on 3/29/2010
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $15,000 on 12/31/2009
Democratic National Committee - $15,200 on 10/29/2009
Planned Parenthood Action Fund Inc. PAC - $5,000 on 8/12/2009
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $5,000 on 6/25/2009
Franken Recount Fund - $10,000 on 3/25/2009
Franken Recount Fund - $12,300 on 12/8/2008
Democratic Party of Virginia - $10,000 on 12/5/2008
Democratic National Committee - $21,750 on 6/30/2007
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee - $21,750 on 6/29/2007
Actblue - $6,900 on 5/11/2008
Nebraskans for Kleeb - $4,600 on 5/13/2008
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee - $21,750 on 6/29/2007
Major contributions to state-level political organizations & campaigns:
2006 Bill Richardson (NM) gubernatorial campaign - $25,000 on 7/24/2006
Nonviolent Offender Rehabilitation (CA) - $400,000 on 8/28/2008
Nonviolent Offender Rehabilitation (CA) - $1,000,000 on 1/25/2008
Contributions to political organizations reporting to IRS:
Progressive Change Campaign Committee Non-Federal - $4,000 on 7/9/2010
Progressive Change Campaign Committee Non-Federal - $4,000 on 6/30/2010
Secretary of State Project - $10,000 on 9/30/2008
America Votes 2006 - $10,000 on 7/7/2006
Progressive Kick - $15,000 on 6/5/2006
Progressive Kick - $12,500 on 4/24/2006


Contributions to misc. political organizations:
Barack Obama inauguration - $50,000

Muckety news stories featuring George Soros
George Soros weds for third time
It was described as a "small wedding," but anyone who glimpsed even a partial guest list might mistake it for an international summit.
September 22, 2013
Beautiful women and ugly rich guys
The gossip sites are buzzing with word of Cameron Diaz's latest possible romance.
May 31, 2013
The most-connected hedge funders
Top investors are known for focusing on money networks more than social networks.
February 28, 2013
Soros increases his stake in AIG
One of the likely beneficiaries of the government-backed recovery of American International Group: billionaire George Soros.
November 18, 2012
Soros can't claim rights to 'open society'
When the pope calls on Cuba to build an "open society," he inadvertently calls George Soros to mind.
March 27, 2012
Corzine and Soros reviled for different reasons
Two of the most hated names in global finance are Jon Corzine and George Soros.
December 12, 2011
Soros returning investor money
Billionaire George Soros is ending a 40-year career of investing other people's money.
July 26, 2011
George Soros is in Glenn Beck's cross-hairs
Of the hundreds of thousands of people we profile on Muckety, George Soros is one of the most popular with our users.
November 12, 2010
So far, Mr. Potter is winning
George Bailey's desperate efforts to avoid the collapse of Bailey's Savings & Loan have a special resonance this Christmas.
December 20, 2009

Recommended reading:
Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire, by Michael T. Kaufman



I would recommend this site as a good source for finding information about the power players involved with various Foundations, NGOs and Trusts.

Cara
9th November 2016, 10:29
Browsing through the Muckety site, turned up this map - Foreign Relations Elite (http://www.muckety.com/711D2C6BFBFFEFC97A29318D981C84C9.map?autoGroup=7,7&big=true#png-display):

http://www.muckety.com/maps/restore/711D2C6BFBFFEFC97A29318D981C84C9.png?width=973&height=700&autoGroup=7,7

It's interesting to see the names that DON'T appear in the press...:silent:

Cara
10th November 2016, 08:17
Here is an interesting schematic showing links from different players and foundations to media and "thought leaders". I think it is somewhat out of date so not all information included is current.

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q440/cara_diemont/Shared/Project%20Avalon%20Shares/left_gatekeepers_zpscjafpkzt.gif

I found it here: http://www.911conspiracy.tv/Noam_Chomsky_vs_Barrie_Zwicker.html

Cara
11th November 2016, 10:42
Soros shenanigans, as posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94417-Done-conceded-and-acknowledged-45th-US-president-Donald-Trump&p=1112806&viewfull=1#post1112806) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94417-Done-conceded-and-acknowledged-45th-US-president-Donald-Trump&p=1112806&viewfull=1#post1112806) by @Hervé:


MoveOn "activists" march against Trump: George Soros begins his color revolution in America (http://theduran.com/george-soros-begins-color-revolution-america-moveon-activists-march-trump/)

Alex Christoforou The Duran (http://theduran.com/george-soros-begins-color-revolution-america-moveon-activists-march-trump/) Thu, 10 Nov 2016 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s17/356614/large/mein_trump.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s17/356614/full/mein_trump.jpg)
Anti-Trump protesters march through the streets of New York shouting 'Not my president'.


MoveOn.org is a George Soros NGO...and George Soros NGOs have nothing to do with charity or justice, and everything to do with political leverage, and in extreme cases government insurrection.

We have seen Soros begin destructive movements to remove those he deems unsuitable to govern in a variety of countries, most recently in Ukraine, with the Soros sponsored Maidan coup.

Now it looks like Soros may be setting his sights on sabotaging the forthcoming Trump presidency.

We do know, thanks to Wikileaks, that George Soros was a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton, as Hillary Clinton was always looking out of George Soros' best interests. (http://theduran.com/george-soros-mentioned-56-times-11-batches-wikileaks-hillary-clinton-john-podesta-emails/)

We are certain Trump's victory is a bitter pill for globalist Soros to swallow. Between Putin and Trump, Soros may finally be starting to feel his power on the world stage falter.

We will see if MoveOn.org's call to protest has legs, or if it will gradually fizzle and fade, in much the same way we can only hope Soros will eventually do.

[...]

Full article: http://theduran.com/george-soros-begins-color-revolution-america-moveon-activists-march-trump/

Cara
11th November 2016, 11:58
More details of Family Trust and Foundations "playing" in the world provided here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94449-What-Donald-Trump--s-Victory-Means-for-the-Mainstream-Media&p=1112909&viewfull=1#post1112909) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94449-What-Donald-Trump--s-Victory-Means-for-the-Mainstream-Media&p=1112909&viewfull=1#post1112909) by @Bob - thank you.

Bold, coloured text emphases are mine.



Definition of MSM - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_media


Mainstream media (MSM) is a term and abbreviation used to refer collectively to the various large mass news media that influence a large number of people, and both reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought.

Although the current belief is that MSM is JUST large organizations, such as large news conglomerates, including newspapers and broadcast media, it seems to me smaller organizations who "influence a large number of people to reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought" can become MSM-LIKE.

MSM are paid shills (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/so-called-bellingcat-western-msm-shill-posing-alternative-truth-crusader/ri7522) - when those who pay feel the advertisement produced by MSM needs to change, they will dictate the change to MSM who will duly follow the instructions by those who pay them.

In my humble OPINION these would be some examples that fit the MSM definition:

MSNBC - It is owned by the NBCUniversal News Group, a unit of the NBC-Universal Television Group division of NBCUniversal, all of which are owned by Comcast. MSNBC and msnbc.com were founded in 1996 as a partnership between Microsoft and General Electric's NBC unit, hence the network's naming.


Microsoft -> Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
General Electric -> is a funder of

Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation
Center for American Progress
Center for Strategic and International Studies
Citizens for a Sound Economy
plus a large number of lobby firms... see http://www.muckety.com/General-Electric-Company/5000769.muckety for more details




FOX - Murdoch and his family own both 21st Century Fox and News Corp through the Murdoch Family Trust. Fox is also a part-owner of the streaming video service Hulu.


Rupert Murdoch -> Murdoch Family Trust
See here for more on Murdoch - http://www.muckety.com/K-Rupert-Murdoch/906.muckety



CNN - The Cable News Network (CNN) is an American basic cable and satellite television channel that is owned by the Turner Broadcasting System division of Time Warner.
...


Ted Turner ->

Turner Foundation
Chairman of Better World Fund
United Nations Foundation

Time Warner -> funder of

Center for American Progress
plus many lobby firms, more details at:




ABC - The Walt Disney Company owns the ABC television network; cable networks including ESPN, the Disney Channel, SOAPnet, A&E and Lifetime; 277 radio stations, music- and book-publishing companies; film-production companies Touchstone, Miramax and Walt Disney Pictures; Pixar Animation Studios.


Disney ->

"Disney is a "heavy hitter" lobbyist according to the Center for Responsive Politics, reporting $3.5 million spent in 2014 on lobbying related to issues including copyright, television broadcasting, taxes, international trade, tourism, advertising, insurance, and telecommunications.[9] Disney has been a major lobbyist on the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement.[10]
Disney has been criticized for poor labor practices, including outsourcing and opposition to worker organizing efforts in the United States and offshoring consumer goods production to factories outside the U.S. with poor working conditions.[8]"
More at Sourcewatch: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Disney




CBS - CBS Corporation is controlled by Sumner Redstone through National Amusements, which also controls the current Viacom.


Sumner Redstone ->

Chairman Emeritus of CBS
Chairman of National Amusements
Trustee of Paley Center for Media
Chairman Emeritus of Viacom

More on Sumner Redstone here: http://www.muckety.com/Sumner-M-Redstone/2479.muckety



CBC - he Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, branded as CBC/Radio-Canada, is a Canadian crown corporation that serves as the national public radio and television broadcaster.


Canadian Crown Corporations ->

Canadian Crown corporations are enterprises owned by the Sovereign of Canada (ie. the Crown) (from Wikipedia, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_corporations_of_Canada)

Sovereign of Canada -> The Monarchy of Canada

The monarchy is the foundation of the executive (Queen-in-Council), legislature (Queen-in-Parliament), and judiciary (Queen-on-the-Bench) in the federal and each provincial jurisdiction.[10]
The Canadian sovereign is the personification of the Canadian state and,[11][12] as a matter of constitutional law, is Canada.[17]
The current Canadian monarch, since 6 February 1952, is Queen Elizabeth II.

(from Wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada)



BBC - owned by the Government of the United Kingdom - The British Broadcasting Corporation is a British public service broadcaster. It is headquartered at Broadcasting House in London, and is the world's oldest national broadcasting organisation.


BBC ->

The BBC is established under a Royal Charter

Royal Charter ->

A royal charter is a formal document issued by a monarch as letters patent, granting a right or power to an individual or a body corporate.
They were, and are still, used to establish significant organisations such as cities (with municipal charters) or universities and learned societies. Charters should be distinguished from warrants and letters of appointment, as they have perpetual effect

(more at Wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_charter#United_Kingdom)



DirecTV - AT&T is new owner of DirecTV.


AT&T -> funder of / doner to

Democratic National Convention
Republican National Convention
American Legislative Exchange Council
Brookings Institution
Center for American Progress
and many lobby firms

More information at: http://www.muckety.com/AT-T-Inc/5000173.muckety

There are a few others (Veterans Today, RT, and DishNetwork) mentioned in @Bob's original post.

Center for American Progress shows up a several times here... here is more from SourceWatch (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Center_for_American_Progress):

The Center for American Progress was begun in 2003 with funding from philanthropists Herbert M. Sandler and Marion O. Sandler[1] It is a Washington, DC-based liberal think tank created and led by President and Chief Executive Officer John D. Podesta, the head of Barack Obama's presidential transition team after the 2008 election and former Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton.

In 2009 CAP's Progressive Media project emerged as a major communications war room on behalf of Obama's domestic and foreign policy agenda and CAP became a strong advocate for escalation in Afghanistan. Progressive Media is run through the Center for American Project Action Fund, the more political 501(c)4 arm of CAP. It coordindates closely with the Common Purpose Project, an effort to create message discipline among the pro-Obama organizations, with a direct tie to the White House.

CAP is the parent organization of Campus Progress. The Center publishes a daily emailed Progress Report, described by the National Review to be "The most aggressive, most energetic opposition research in politics."

Phew - long post, thank you to patient, persistent readers for plowing through it all!

Cara
15th November 2016, 11:23
Some details of George Soros and his Open Society Foundation and their links to the Comet Pizza and Spirit Cooking drama as shared by @Houman in the Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit) thread - thank you @Houman


The ball keeps rolling...

https://twitter.com/goy_orbison/status/797602308959928320
http://archive.is/afTPu
https://i.imgur.com/Yl6T7BJ.jpg
http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?14960793887

Cara
15th November 2016, 13:23
I came across this image online but cannot locate its source, or the document / article it belongs to. It shows family connections to some central body called "The Order".... not sure what this could be? Perhaps the Skull and Bones Order? The image URL links to Bibliotecapleyades but when I do a Google Image search, it cannot find the image at all, never mind on Bibliotecapleyades.

Does anyone have any ideas?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/esp_so17.gif

Hervé
15th November 2016, 13:53
I came across this image online but cannot locate its source, or the document / article it belongs to. It shows family connections to some central body called "The Order".... not sure what this could be? Perhaps the Skull and Bones Order? The image URL links to Bibliotecapleyades but when I do a Google Image search, it cannot find the image at all, never mind on Bibliotecapleyades.

Does anyone have any ideas?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/esp_so17.gif
Found it here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_skullbones11a.htm (scroll down the page almost to the bottom)


Antony Sutton

Return to Contents (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_skullbones11.htm#CONTENTS)





http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/esp_so13.gif

Cara
15th November 2016, 14:07
This is not directly about Foundations, Trusts and NGOs, but rather more about secret societies. What IS related, is the family name list - families that are part of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale.


For over 150 years, "Bonesmen" have run the world from positions in banking, intelligence, media, law and government. Members included Presidential handler Averell Harriman, anti war leader William Sloan Coffin, Time-Life magnate Henry Luce, Truman war secretary Henry Stimson (responsible for dropping the atomic bomb), pseudo conservative William F. Buckley and many more. (http://www.viewfromthewall.com/)

...

In 1983, Dr. Sutton received a list of Skull and Bones members and immediately recognized the names of many men who controlled American policy. He published a book entitled "America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones" (1986). He updated and republished this book (http://www.trineday.com/) just before his death last June at age 77. Here are some of his conclusions.

"The Order" is " a purely American phenomenon with German origin." Dr. Sutton compares it to the Round Table, Cecil Rhodes' secret society at Oxford also known as "The Group." The American and British entities consist of 20-30 dynastic families each. Jewish banking interests connect them.

"The links between 'The Order' and Britain go through Lazard Freres and the private merchant banks... 'The Group' links to the Jewish equivalent through the Rothschilds in Britain... 'The Order' in the US links to the Guggenheim, Schiff and Warburg families." (23

As Dr. Sutton notes, the "Order" had definite anti Semitic tendencies but by the 1960's, many Jewish names started to appear among the 15 annual inductees.

See list of Skull and Bones members. (http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boodleboysmembersbyclass.htm) (Far too many to post here)

Dr. Sutton believes the "left" versus "right" split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the "The Nation" and "The New Republic" and right-wing magazines like "The National Review were "artificially set up." The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are "The Order."
...

Dr. Sutton believes The Order has many weaknesses resulting from an inbred gene pool, a shallow power base and a limited worldview. In any future conflict between the authoritarian state and the individual, he believes opposition will take "a million forms."
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and



...
America's Secret Establishment by Anthony C. Sutton (http://www.crowhealingnetwork.net/pdf/Americas%20Secret%20Establishment%20An%20Introduct ion%20to%20Skull%20and%20Bones%20-%20By%20Antony%20Sutton.pdf)
...

The back cover of the ebook (page 2 in the PDF link) has a list of notable Skull and Bones families included:
http://i.imgur.com/qy9CxXJ.jpg

Just in case the small font in the inset box lower right - Notable Bones Families - is not readable, the names are:

Aldrich
Buckley
Bush
Bundy
Cheney
Daniels
Davison
Dodge
Gates
Goodyear
Gould
Harriman
Kellogg
Lord
Lovett
Luce
Phelps
Pillsbury
Pinchot
Rockefeller
Stimson
Taft
Vanderbilt
Wyerhauser
Whitney

Cara
15th November 2016, 14:11
Found it here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_skullbones11a.htm (scroll down the page almost to the bottom)


Antony Sutton

Return to Contents (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_skullbones11.htm#CONTENTS)





http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/esp_so13.gif



Thank you @Hervé - you must be a Bibliotecapleyades super-user :muscle:

Cara
24th November 2016, 08:28
Found an interesting analysis and commentary in an essay by Jasun Horsley (http://auticulture.com/) that I am busy reading. The article is a social and cultural commentary entitled Vicious Circles & Angry Squares: Pedophilia, Scapegoating, Taboo, & Social Control (Part One) (https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/vicious-circles-angry-squares-pedophilia-scapegoating-taboo-social-control-part-one/)

Article here: https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/vicious-circles-angry-squares-pedophilia-scapegoating-taboo-social-control-part-one/

It includes a discussion of taboo, social control, political correctness, censure and shaming, divide and conquer via identity politics. You might not agree with everything Jasun Horsely writes but he explores many topics and is prepared to question official, alternative, "left", "right", etc. narratives.

Here are some extracts from the article that speak to social control by the power players - using the "scapegoating" principle:



Regardless of which minority or which kind of “prejudice” is being addressed, it is all scapegoating. It is the same social principal being applied to achieve the ends of an actual privileged minority class. What can be said about this group is very little. But they may not even be racist, homophobic, or misogynist at all; they may be something far beyond such limited and limiting terms (terms they would have created deliberately to befog the rest of us). It’s likely they view themselves as superior to all humankind, as we think of the term, regardless of type or orientation. And the worst of it is that, even by trying to identify and categorize them (the Kakistocracy), we are potentially playing into their hands.

The result of this long-term divide and conquer plan is to polarize people even more than they were before, and even as they are being mashed together into one great, happy, homogenous blob. Someone who might have been willing to accept homosexuality as a mostly harmless deviation will not be so willing to accept it as an ipso facto good thing. If they are forced to choose between ignorant intolerance and the neoliberal libertine avocation of just about every last form of sexual variation, they may well take refuge in the “homophobia” camp just to cling to some vestige of sanity (I know I have been tempted). We saw the same basic pattern played out with Trump’s election. When forced to choose between the advancing neoliberal lockstep represented by Hillary, and a reactionary revolt against all things PC in the form of the id-monster Trump, people “chose” the id. I don’t blame them, though I do blame them for being stupid enough to think Trump is an outsider or “wild card” in the oligarchical game, for not realizing that the oligarchy hold all the cards because that’s what makes them the oligarchy (they create their own rules, they decide which cards are wild, which ones trump the rest). But then, the aim of the divide and conquer game is to ensure there is no dialogue between opposing points of view, no comparing of the data, no middle ground, so everyone who plays it plays without a full deck. Divide and conquer means creating points of view that oppose and reinforce each other while being equally erroneous because devoid of true context.

From a long term view, it’s possible to see how the same social programs, values, and agendas (and even the same groups) that, for example, practiced slavery, over time adjusted it into less obviously exploitative social arrangements, how they then endorsed and pushed anti-racist ideologies while at the same time continuing to exploit people of whatever color in more or less the same ways. Like what corporations did with cigarettes: get us hooked on them and then tell us how deadly they are. Internal divide and conquer strategy means implementing racially (and sexually) exploitative social programs and ideologies (ones that have a basis in territoriality, i.e., that correspond with deep biological programs, something neoliberalism denies), then tell us racism is wrong, morally speaking. Ditto with women and misogyny, homosexuality and homophobia, and so on.

Social engineering employs taboo to control, oppress, and exploit the populace regardless of color, race, sex, age, or ideological affiliation. How it works, as far as I can figure it (I am still trying to wrap my mind around it) is by creating taboos out of the very things which the ruling classes are doing behind closed doors (in dungeons, basements, occult lodges, churches, schools, night clubs, or Pizza restaurants), as well as some of the things they are doing openly (corporate crimes etc.). Taboo-fearing people will keep to the behaviors prescribed to them in order to avoid the consequences. I am sure anyone who’s alive can relate to this, and if they can’t, they are probably among the ruling class (“psychopaths”). Ordering society by using taboo is like corralling cows with electric fences and cattle prods. You create the structures you want them to enter into, then you provide the “shocks” to ensure they do. When fear drives, the devil rides.


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Full article at: https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/vicious-circles-angry-squares-pedophilia-scapegoating-taboo-social-control-part-one/

shaberon
28th November 2016, 17:14
Searcher, I think this thread points at the heart of the thing pretty well.

I also recently discovered Joel v. d. Reijden's site (European sites do not figure prominently in U. S. based searches). This is better information than 90% of what's out there, and another big theme of his, points out that: if instead of addressing the NGOs and other perfectly tangible connections, someone is talking about the Masons, Illuminati, or NWO, it's a red herring (false lead). This dismisses almost the entirety of Coast to Coast guests.

I don't have much to add. It may be on Avalon, but there was a fairly recent Swiss study on interlocking directorates which was fairly telling. I'm undecided about the possibility of a "Grey Pope"--i. e. a non-office holder who, through prestige or some similar means, is in a position to advise or command the Black Pope. I tend to agree the original "family trusts" started in Venice and hold complete continuity through European history to the modern U. S.

Flash
28th November 2016, 17:30
To begin, here is a link to the extensive research done by the Institute for the Study of Covert Politics and Globalization (https://isgp-studies.com/index)

This site has a vast amount of research and documentation on corporation structures and holdings, NGOs, key figures, etc. (It also explores child sex trafficking / pedophilia rings.)

Here is the introductory information to the site's research on NGOs.

https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide

Supranational society: Masterlist of 1,300 NGOs and the top 400 people in them (https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide)

By: Joël van der Reijden | First version: August 9, 2005 | Last update: August 17, 2016 | NGO Study Center (https://isgp-studies.com/ngo.php)

https://isgp-studies.com/design/images/intro/NGOs.jpg


The friendship Nancy and I shared with Kay Graham is one of the legacies of my government service that we cherish most. ... The Kay of the permanent establishment never lost sight of the fact that societies thrive not by the victories of their factions but by their ultimate reconciliations. Kay and I met in 1969 at the home of Joe Alsop, another member of Washington's permanent establishment.
July 23, 2001, Henry Kissinger, Eulogy for Katharine Graham of the Washington Post.

...


[Think tanks] exert definite and even considerable influence on the process of elaborating and making political decisions. It is connected with the fact that ... leaders of such centers have as a rule personal close links with the [government]. Second, the centers are created in order to prepare and adopt the major political decisions in the shade, far from public. Third, such analytical and expert centers really accumulate the best intellectual forces of the country and fourth, not always but rather often, the centers were founded simply to provide jobs to [retired] politicians.
1999, Yuri Pivovarov, 'Power Institutions in Post-Communist Russia: Official Forms and Hidden Transcrips,' p. 18 (NATO library). The influence of Russian think tanks on the executive body seems to be many times less than is the case in the United States, but the reasons for their existence seem to be the same.

Introduction

Note: The names of institutes and individuals on this page have been gathered over the course of hundreds of hours from books, newspapers, official websites (don't forget Webarchive), regular websites (names were always double checked), a number of membership lists, and the Who's Who. ISGP's membership/biography lists related to the Pilgrims, the 1001, the American Security Council, Le Cercle and other groups were used as a starting point to find all these private groups. Many sources can be found in those lists or in various articles on this website, but certainly not all - and unfortunately there's no time to include all the sources here. This page has primarily been put together to make cross referencing a hundred times easier than before.

People studying political science should have a good idea of the non-government organizations listed on this page. They vary considerable in purpose and influence, but are an integral part of the globalization process, as well as intelligence and covert operations. For an explanation of the establishments termed "Liberal", "Conservative", "Zionist" and "Vatican-Paneuropa", in which these groups are largely divided, the reader can visit the introduction page.

The names of these groups/NGOs have been collected by the author of this site over the course of eight to nine years. All really low level institutes have been left out - there are probably over a 1000 more filled with names nobody knows and which really have no influence.

What keeps this entire network afloat are funds from corporations, foundations, membership fees, fund raisers and occasional government grants is. Ban the foundations, curb corporate contributions, and the whole network will start to fall apart. I'm not necessarily saying that this is a solution.

Interestingly, back in early 2004 this author was unable to find more than six or seven of the more important organizations below on one website or in one book, even after looking for it all over the place. Often groups like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission were mixed in with the "Illuminati", the "Freemasons" and the "New World Order". Tiny bits of information on such groups as the Pilgrims, Le Cercle, the 1001 Club, the JASON Group, the Sun Valley Meetings and others were scattered all over the place and often not freely accessible. Information on mainland Europe with regard to these kind of groups was especially scarce. And in all cases no one had a clue how various groups related to each other. As the reader can see, things have changed. A lot!

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From: https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide

What I will write may look stupid, in fact, it is stupid, but there is something strange in the picture below. The men in that picture pretty much all look alike. Except for one, they all have pointed noses, except for another one, they all are pretty much of the same stature physically, except for one, they all have similar foreheads and tight mouths (small lips). The most dissimilar one is the fourth one when starting to count from the left.

Is it what we call bloodline???

Cara
29th November 2016, 09:03
I don't have much to add. It may be on Avalon, but there was a fairly recent Swiss study on interlocking directorates which was fairly telling. I'm undecided about the possibility of a "Grey Pope"--i. e. a non-office holder who, through prestige or some similar means, is in a position to advise or command the Black Pope. I tend to agree the original "family trusts" started in Venice and hold complete continuity through European history to the modern U. S.

Thanks @shaberon.

Do you have any more information about the Swiss study so I can go searching for it?

Thanks for the insight on the "family trusts" line all the way back to Venice. I have not read Joseph Farrell's "Financial Vipers of Venice" yet, but I think it might go into this area a bit. Do you have any suggestions on sources for tracing things back to Venice besides this?

Cara
29th November 2016, 09:10
What I will write may look stupid, in fact, it is stupid, but there is something strange in the picture below. The men in that picture pretty much all look alike. Except for one, they all have pointed noses, except for another one, they all are pretty much of the same stature physically, except for one, they all have similar foreheads and tight mouths (small lips). The most dissimilar one is the fourth one when starting to count from the left.

Is it what we call bloodline???

Hmmm.... very interesting eagle-eye @Flash - thanks for pointing that out. :sherlock:

I didn't really look at the photograph in that way but since you point it out, the facial structure certainly seems to indicate some kind of genetic linkages.

With the reports of generational abuse in certain families that is hinted at in reports of peadophilia along with the practice of marrying in the family that European nobility used to follow (and probably still do but it's less talked about now)... it would certainly seem to support this family ties and bloodline argument... and it shows up visually if you look.

shaberon
29th November 2016, 23:01
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/

Is at least an article that refers to the study. I also note the comment therein--just because the "super-entity" exists, does not equate to a monolithic conspiracy.

Now, again roughly agreeing with Joel v. d. Reijden, amongst the "conspiracy-themed" groups, Larouche tends to be the more factual, at least until you run into their propaganda. Webster Tarpley split off from it; John Coleman copied their stuff and repackaged it as his own. But the studies along these lines show the old Venetian "fondi" as then becoming the original investments into the bank of Antwerp, then Amsterdam (when the Dutch Empire was the largest/richest) and finally the Bank of England--with this same wealth then being the very thing that put private businesses into an international position of being able to dictate to governments.

Now, as that had started fairly small--ten or so families from the same area--the Venetian ploy would definitely be a conspiracy, but once growing so large with so many players--it's only a system that allows vast amounts of such conspiracies to compete.

Cara
30th November 2016, 11:37
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/

Is at least an article that refers to the study. I also note the comment therein--just because the "super-entity" exists, does not equate to a monolithic conspiracy.

Thanks for the link - I have read of this study before but did not remember it.

I briefly studied systems theory when I was at university many years ago doing electrical engineering. One of the interesting aspects was the application of systems theory to markets and economies. There was a text book recommended on the subject - Business Dynamics: Systems Thinking and Modeling for a Complex World (https://www.amazon.com/Business-Dynamics-Systems-Thinking-Modeling/dp/007238915X%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q %26tag%3Dduckduckgo-ipad-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165 953%26creativeASIN%3D007238915X) by an MIT professor, John D. Sterman:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51av9TbvM8L._SX401_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I had a copy at one stage (it certainly was not the ludicrous price of $276 at that stage). One of the things included in the discipline is mapping out the positive and negative flows within systems. By understanding these flows and +ve and -ve feedback loops, one could then see critical points where the system could be changed, driven to breaking point, or sometimes dissolved.

Here is an example of one such model (pretty complicated at first glance but probably easier once one is familiar with it):
https://thinkingfaster.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/competing-compliments-model.jpg

Speculating a bit here:
Say you were a family dynasty, with knowledge passed down through generations. Your family was likely involved in the establishment of many of these market systems and, if not, perhaps a competing family dynasty was involved and you watched closely over generations how they set it up. Or perhaps you're not involved in this particular competitive "game" but merely observed two families slug it out over generations: you would still have a long range few of this and other market and social systems.

In all these cases, providing you still wanted to "play the field", it would be foolish not to draw on your knowledge of these vast interconnected systems.... So while we "normal", non-dynasty people have to resort to vast research and complicated models of how these systems work, in contrast, these family dynasties "inherit the knowledge" and learn to understand and navigate the systems as a normal part of growing up.


Now, again roughly agreeing with Joel v. d. Reijden, amongst the "conspiracy-themed" groups, Larouche tends to be the more factual, at least until you run into their propaganda. Webster Tarpley split off from it; John Coleman copied their stuff and repackaged it as his own. But the studies along these lines show the old Venetian "fondi" as then becoming the original investments into the bank of Antwerp, then Amsterdam (when the Dutch Empire was the largest/richest) and finally the Bank of England--with this same wealth then being the very thing that put private businesses into an international position of being able to dictate to governments.

Now, as that had started fairly small--ten or so families from the same area--the Venetian ploy would definitely be a conspiracy, but once growing so large with so many players--it's only a system that allows vast amounts of such conspiracies to compete.

Thank you for the neat encapsulation of hundreds of years of history - the bit I highlighted in bold blue.

I agree with your view that the small Venetian seeds - which might be classed as conspiracy - have grown to become the vast all encompassing forest we inhabit as the modern structures of society... It's no longer a conspiracy but more like an ecosystem, in which, as you say, many conspiracies can play out.

I wonder if those Venetians knew what they were planting all those years ago?

shaberon
1st December 2016, 01:53
The Venetians might not have imagined airplanes or electric power, but they were huge with the original vehicle of conquest--ships. When Dante placed certain souls in boiling pitch, it was a direct reference to the Venetian Arsenal (shipyard). Venice was never itself conquered or subject to rebellion, and were the only country to maintain diplomats in all the other countries for close to a thousand years. Their Republic dissolved into Italy around 1814, but by that time, it was obviously no longer needed. So, aside from missing all the modern details, I'd say there was a knowledgeable working plan in place from very close to their beginning.

One could, I believe, credit Germany around Darmstadt (19th century) for the origin of "Universal Banking" which is, roughly, what we get when we repeal Glass-Steagall.

The opponents of the Venetians were the Medicis (Florence/Tuscany), subsequently France-Austria-Russia, and seeing as the U. S. Revolutionaries were allied to these and completely agreed with the principles, that "would have" been our resistance bloc, except it wound up getting seriously devastated by the "money power" (Vatican & Anglo-Dutch mostly by then).

You are probably right that a lot of time is spent by someone drawing up a model which results in blood being spilled elsewhere in the world.