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Ricker
11th December 2016, 17:32
Hello All,

I have been seeing a lot of videos recently concerning a polar shift.
Has there been a discussion about this?

Ricker

DeDukshyn
11th December 2016, 17:41
Never heard of it. :) Ok that was facetiousness ... there's plenty of threads here, especially from 2012 era on polar shift. There's magnetic and physical types - I think the magnetic type is the one we want to concern ourselves with as we can observe that this does indeed happen occasionally on earth - the speed this occurs is another debate ...

If you post some of these videos, (and they are well made) some of us may take the time to vet them.

Bill Ryan
11th December 2016, 17:43
I have been seeing a lot of videos recently concerning a polar shift.
Has there been a discussion about this?

Many! There's absolutely not been any physical pole shift. But there's quite a rapid (and accelerating) magnetic pole shift.

The two are entirely different things. But a magnetic pole shift (maybe leading to a magnetic pole reversal) is still really very important.

Enter "pole shift" (in inverted commas) in the Advanced Search (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?search_type=1), toggling the little options menus to look in both thread titles and posts. You'll find a lot of discussion, and clarification, with a ton of references, maps and diagrams.

Hervé
11th December 2016, 17:45
To help you with your question, you could use the search engine for the forum: http://projectavalon.net/FAQs.htm scroll down to the "• SEARCHING / FINDING" section.

Else, one can also use other search engines, see: Advanced Google search techniques (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?91021-Advanced-Google-search-techniques)

In any case, the subject has been addressed too many times (IMO) on this forum and one first needs to specify what kind of polar shift one is considering: magnetic? Pole wandering? Plate wandering? Etc...

Ricker
11th December 2016, 17:51
OK TY
There was a recent one on YouTube that got my attention.
There was a speech given by John Moore about the polar shift
and a map of the "Safe Zones"
Normally I can filter this stuff out however, for some reason
this one kinda got under my skin mainly due to the mass relocation
of HQ's and the like.
Or do need to stop falling asleep watching the Sci Fi channel?? ;-)

Ricker

DeDukshyn
11th December 2016, 18:00
OK TY
There was a recent one on YouTube that got my attention.
There was a speech given by John Moore about the polar shift
and a map of the "Safe Zones"
Normally I can filter this stuff out however, for some reason
this one kinda got under my skin mainly due to the mass relocation
of HQ's and the like.
Or do need to stop falling asleep watching the Sci Fi channel?? ;-)

Ricker

From my current observations, there's no more risk right now than there ever was. Chances of a physical pole shift are slim to none, and Slim's away on business; this is the type that would be massively destructive. A magnetic shift, has occurred on Earth in the past, more than once, so it is likely to happen again. When and what that will look like, who really knows for sure. It may be a slow boring process that takes 100 years to complete. I'm a little with Herve on the topic - it is interesting, but there's only so much dialogue that can be expressed on the topic, before one realizes, that even if a catastophe did happen as a result, you'd be hard pressed to figure the "way out" of it. Nothing much to do ...

My personal thoughts on a magnetic reversal are a little more exotic though, as I can humour the idea that the earth's magnetic expression is tied to our consciousness - a magnetic pole shift may well affect humanity in ways not well considered ...

Bill Ryan
11th December 2016, 18:05
There was a recent one on YouTube that got my attention.
There was a speech given by John Moore about the polar shift
and a map of the "Safe Zones"


Can you quote which one? If it's this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRdVybSz948), it's a re-upload of a 2008 presentation, referring to 2017.

John Moore has a track record of being quite wrong about a number of things (this is easy to check!), but it may be wise to keep at least one eye partly open about all this. :)

I do have to say that I was contacted privately several years back by someone who said he was a US Naval submariner, who also said he had seen classified Navy maps showing a significantly changed global coastline. I couldn't confirm who he was, but his message to me felt compelling and credible.

One other Avalon member, who's a very able scientist by training (now retired), and who's now an accomplished dowser, has also produced similar maps. (I'll say no more, but will invite him to post on this thread if he wants to.)

The CAUSE of the possible changes was not known -- by either the submariner or the dowser. And, of course, none of this means it's going to happen. This is important to understand, I think.

It's hard to discuss, for obvious reasons, but forecast events (dowsed, remote viewed, accessed by classified advanced technology, or even told us by ETs!) may refer to a variety -- maybe a very wide variety -- of possible futures, some more likely than others. The production of maps may just be an insurance policy against an improbable event, and after all, it's any military's job to think that way.


See http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html for much more on the entire thing about classified advanced technology and peering into future timelines.

Ricker
11th December 2016, 18:12
I appreciate all of your comments. Apparently more research is needed on my part. It is daunting sifting through all the videos with the creepy music in the background.

Ricker

Hervé
11th December 2016, 18:12
John Moore is making $$ out of the "Preparedness/survival" business (http://www.thelibertyman.com/) and, accordingly, is more inclined to tell horror stories to little children to make sure they are scared... and ready to buy anything...

norman
11th December 2016, 18:13
Magnetic reversal and magnetic reduction are slightly different things.

I've just posted a video interview with Dr Dean Bonlie in the "The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean? thread where he hints at a tie between magnetic field reduction and climate warming.

He's actually talking about the healing effects of south pole magnetism which is why I found the interview while searching for clues as to why the Reptilians chose underground caverns in the South Pole region over underground caverns anywhere else.

My post is here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50036-The-Arctic-is-melting-the-Antarctic-is-freezing.-What-does-this-mean&p=1119743&viewfull=1#post1119743

wnlight
11th December 2016, 18:57
Many people get confused between magnetic polar shift which is happening now and a rotational polar shift. Even Albert Einstein was open to the idea of a rotational polar shift. One should preface the term with either 'magnetic' or 'rotational' so that we can tell what is on your mind. I have read several discourses on line that really confuse these two entirely different subjects. Both subjects can fall into 'the end of life as we know it' scenario. Although rotational polar shift looks much more menacing to me, it is also the least likely to happen.

Wind
11th December 2016, 19:25
For those who are interested.

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wnlight
11th December 2016, 19:47
The link that Wind provided is fairly accurate. My expectations are that the magnetic pole reversal will happen sooner and faster than 80 years from now with the magnetosphere down only for a short enough time to switch and not cause a mass extinction event. My concept of a faster reversal is based upon the speed shown so far in the process. And also based upon my dowsing results. Also, I am an optimist! :-)

I just skimmed through the John Moore video. Listened to his 'US Navy Prediction' with which I disagree. Keep in mind that the Navy study is at least twenty years ago. I had a good look at the Navy's map in 1992 while working on a Navy coastline project. It tells us that Wisconsin, Florida, and Louisiana are gone. Of those three, I see Wisconsin and Florida preserved with actually Florida growing to the Southeast. Louisiana will be gone in 2020 along with major portions of Texas and Missouri - and Northward. The Navy prediction also has parts of the US West coast submerged. I do not see that. If you wish to review my sources, I have been studying these changes for more than five years, now, using dowsing.

DebJoy
11th December 2016, 20:00
Can you verify the link please - the one provided is coming up with: 404 Not Found. Thanks!

See http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83 for much more on the entire thing about classified advanced technology and peering into future timelines.

Sunny-side-up
11th December 2016, 20:13
OK TY
There was a recent one on YouTube that got my attention.
There was a speech given by John Moore about the polar shift
and a map of the "Safe Zones"
Normally I can filter this stuff out however, for some reason
this one kinda got under my skin mainly due to the mass relocation
of HQ's and the like.
Or do need to stop falling asleep watching the Sci Fi channel?? ;-)

Ricker

Ricker, yes very well talked about subject/s

Off subject but relating to your comment,
sorry had to say this.

You mean falling asleep watching the Main-Stream Scripted-News and Programs.
That to me is now Sci Fi/Fantasy (None real) where as, what they (TPTW) project as Sci-Fi is becoming nearer and nearer to RL (with a whole load of soft-disclosure included)
:sun:

Raven
11th December 2016, 20:28
If there is creepy music I don't listen - I take that as a sign that it is not for me

I appreciate all of your comments. Apparently more research is needed on my part. It is daunting sifting through all the videos with the creepy music in the background.

Ricker

Bill Ryan
11th December 2016, 20:37
Can you verify the link please - the one provided is coming up with: 404 Not Found. Thanks!

See http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83 for much more on the entire thing about classified advanced technology and peering into future timelines.

Sorry!! My typo. :facepalm: It's


http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

ghostrider
11th December 2016, 20:45
Earth is a living entity , with global warming just as any living thing would do, she will try and cool down , a coming mini ice age is not out of the realm of possibility ... with the tampering the ptb have done with weather modification , i think the natural order of things are out of balance ...

shaberon
11th December 2016, 21:02
There isn't a physical pole shift happening, however, the speed of axial precession, or precession of the equinoxes, is accelerating somewhat.

The molten core of metals is not too firmly attached to the crust, so its rotational motion is not aligned with that of the surface; its axis defines the magnetic poles. It can physically drift, or, perhaps, spontaneously reverse polarity.

Looking around the solar system, some planets have no magnetic field (Mars and Venus iirc). They interact with the solar wind via atmospheric induction. The moon has no magnetism and no atmosphere, so it can only interact with solar wind mechanically. Times around the new moon produce a great deal of turbulence in the plasma flying in from the sun. Were the magnetic pole to move significantly, it would correspondingly shift the patterns of auroras and there might be interference with electronic communication, but, as long as it exists, probably doesn't make a huge difference where it points.

DebJoy
11th December 2016, 22:26
Thanks Bill for the updated link: http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

ghostrider
11th December 2016, 23:39
I remember a tribe up in Alaska saying the sun doesnt rise in its normal position, thy us the position of the sun for hunting , returning home , and have for centuries , around 2010-2011 they noticed a shift ... the sun is the same, its the earth that has titlted ...

Bill Ryan
11th December 2016, 23:59
I remember a tribe up in Alaska saying the sun doesnt rise in its normal position, thy us the position of the sun for hunting , returning home , and have for centuries , around 2010-2011 they noticed a shift ... the sun is the same, its the earth that has titlted ...

No, that doesn't help! :facepalm: That's exactly how rumors and false information start, and then get reposted and reposted, confusing members like Ricker (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94928-Polar-Shift&p=1119740&viewfull=1#post1119740) who are asking honest questions. PLEASE don't post stuff like that without knowing exactly what you're talking about.

I and others have written this (below) many times. Here's once more, hoping it may stick.

If the earth had shifted on its axis even half of one degree,


GPS would no longer work (because the earth would have shifted underneath the orbiting satellites, which would simply have kept on going)
drivers in an unfamiliar city would be navigated to entirely the wrong place,
planes would fail to automatically arrive at their destinations and would get lost in bad weather,
sailors in their yachts, near to coastlines in the fog, would far more often get shipwrecked,
anyone with satellite TV would have to adjust their dishes to get reception again (that's hundreds of millions of people!), and
predictions of eclipses would be so inaccurate everyone with eyes to see would be asking a ton of questions about what the heck had gone wrong.

Others reading this can probably think of many other ways in which this would IMMEDIATELY come to everyone's attention. It's NOT the kind of thing that could ever be 'covered up'.

:focus:

Hazelfern
12th December 2016, 01:05
I remember a tribe up in Alaska saying the sun doesnt rise in its normal position, thy us the position of the sun for hunting , returning home , and have for centuries , around 2010-2011 they noticed a shift ... the sun is the same, its the earth that has titlted ...

Your post reminded me of this article from 2015

Aalto University helps Native Americans relocate after concerns of an impending tsunami.... According to the tribe, the operation must be completed by 2017, before the threat arrives,” says Harris.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/aalto_university_helps_native_americans_relocate_a fter_concerns_of_an_impending_tsunami/7916402

Bill Ryan
12th December 2016, 01:12
Aalto University helps Native Americans relocate after concerns of an impending tsunami.... According to the tribe, the operation must be completed by 2017, before the threat arrives,” says Harris.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/aalto_university_helps_native_americans_relocate_a fter_concerns_of_an_impending_tsunami/7916402

Yes. That earthquake and tsunami will happen... someday. (And maybe, any day. That's solid science.) For reference, there's a whole thread about this:


The Pacific NW Cascadia Big One is Due, Quake Expert Says (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63638-The-Pacific-NW-Cascadia-Big-One-is-Due-Quake-Expert-Says)

onawah
12th December 2016, 01:36
The indigenous peoples tend to be uncannily accurate in their predictions and prophecies. If they think the project needs to be completed by 2017, I think that is a warning.

ghostrider
12th December 2016, 03:09
The Japan earthquake of of 2011 they claimed knocked the Earth off its original tilt , and airports in Florida had to restripe their runways, magnetics are off , the jetstream has been altered, the climate is broken , we had 20 degrees yesterday and 60 degrees today , in december not normal for my area... they say magnetic north moves a little each year ... it seems in my area the weather feels like a month off ... e have had bittrcold like l have never seen, i have lived in this area for 50 years...

Bill Ryan
12th December 2016, 03:35
The Japan earthquake of of 2011 they claimed knocked the Earth off its original tilt , and airports in Florida had to restripe their runways, magnetics are off , the jetstream has been altered, the climate is broken , we had 20 degrees yesterday and 60 degrees today , in december not normal for my area... they say magnetic north moves a little each year ... it seems in my area the weather feels like a month off ... e have had bittrcold like l have never seen, i have lived in this area for 50 years...

Well, that paragraph mixed up a lot of things in one giant milkshake, with no sources for anything.

This might help!

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth

Japan moved 8 feet, and the earth was moved on its axis by 4 inches.

It took me 30 seconds to look that up. Please!

Magnetic North is moving, and that's well-known. I stated that in post #3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94928-Polar-Shift&p=1119744&viewfull=1#post1119744). Here's one of the many maps -- again, 30 seconds to find it.

http://viewzone2.com/changing.gps.jpg

Climate changing, yes... it seems to be getting a lot colder in many places, and the trend shows no signs of stopping. Grossly under-reported in the controlled media. See this thread:


Weird, wild weather: floods, freak storms, giant hail, record lows, all over the world (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world)

Sunny-side-up
12th December 2016, 11:17
Ill inocently post my thoughts here but please don't blast me out of the water is they dumb 0.0

Forgive me if this has already been talked about in this post.
I haven't the time to read through all reply here, so many other readings going on 0.o

And please excuse my general ignorance on the subject.

One thing I read here is the pole are getting nearer to each other, not just moving position.

So if that is the case the pole moment will get faster and faster because opposites attract, yes?

If they get near enough to each other will they suddenly jump and connect?
If so not just pole movement but Pole-Connection.

What will that cause and how dose the planet pole-system get out of that condition?

As I said please forgive my ignorance but can someone sort that out for me :sun:

Our Earth's inner magnet and Pole-System supposedly comes from it's liquid/molten iron centre, the pole distinction coming from the Earth's axial movement/spinning and so causing North and South.

So within that system how do the poles move and get nearer to each other if not by out side effects (I know the earths core is also cooling)?
Outside effects on that scale added to a pole movement of this scale surely means a physical movement that is not our norm?

greybeard
12th December 2016, 12:04
Ill inocently post my thoughts here but please don't blast me out of the water is they dumb 0.0

Forgive me if this has already been talked about in this post.
I haven't the time to read through all reply here, so many other readings going on 0.o

And please excuse my general ignorance on the subject.

One thing I read here is the pole are getting nearer to each other, not just moving position.

So if that is the case the pole moment will get faster and faster because opposites attract, yes?

If they get near enough to each other will they suddenly jump and connect?
If so not just pole movement but Pole-Connection.

What will that cause and how dose the planet pole-system get out of that condition?

As I said please forgive my ignorance but can someone sort that out for me :sun:

Our Earth's inner magnet and Pole-System supposedly comes from it's liquid/molten iron centre, the pole distinction coming from the Earth's axial movement/spinning and so causing North and South.

So within that system how do the poles move and get nearer to each other if not by out side effects (I know the earths core is also cooling)?
Outside effects on that scale added to a pole movement of this scale surely means a physical movement that is not our norm?

Your opinion as valid as anyone else's Sunny-side -up.
What you expressed I have seen elsewhere I cant remember exactly where--may be Gregg Braden or David Sereda.
Could even have been Suspicious Observer but thats a long shot.

The problem is their talks are lengthy so not easy to find a small segment.
Gregg Braden, in particular, pointed out that there are so many things going on as far as earth changes and so many similar prophesies from indigenous people that we maybe on the crux of something "special/spectacular" happening.

As with everything else we will just have to wait and see.

Chris

Sunny-side-up
12th December 2016, 12:14
Yes I know what you mean about information retrieval and so much to see/read/ponder, well that is this Pandora's box we make for our selves (and we do make/add to it with every thought).

As with everything else we will just have to wait and see.

Chris

that is true Chris but hold onto being a C0-Creator, plan ahead for what you yourself desires to come :)

lucidity
12th December 2016, 15:19
All this pole reversal stuff is just yet more pie-in-the-sky disaster porn.

I'm offering 100 to 1 odds... _against_ there being a magnetic pole reversal in 2017.
Is there _a_n_y_o_n_e_ with sufficient belief in this ... hot air.... to take my wager.
I am serious about offering this bet... but i'm only willing to take bets up to $20.
(That is, after all, a payout of $2,000 if the statistical miracle occurs in 2017)
How does it work ? I can sell you 'Magnetic Pole Reversal Insurance' via paypal.

If you're interested.. please PM me. :)

Bill Ryan
12th December 2016, 15:25
All this pole reversal stuff is just yet more pie-in-the-sky disaster porn.

I'm offering 100 to 1 odds... _against_ there being a magnetic pole reversal in 2017.


Unlikely, but theoretically possible. (This is NOT NOT NOT what John Moore, or even the Pacific Coast Native Americans are talking about.)


http://extremetech.com/extreme/192522-earths-magnetic-field-could-flip-within-our-lifetime-but-dont-worry-we-should-be-ok


Earth’s magnetic field could flip within our lifetime – but don’t worry, we should be OK

By Sebastian Anthony (https://www.extremetech.com/author/santhony) on October 21, 2014

https://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/earths-magnetic-fields-nasa-640x527.jpg

This summer, the European Space Agency published data that suggested that the Earth’s magnetic field could flip — as in, the magnetic north pole becomes the magnetic south pole — in “a few thousand years.” At the time, I figured there was no rush to write it up — after all, we might not even be living on Earth in a few thousand years. Now, however, new research published this week shows that the magnetic field might flip within our lifetime — so it’s probably something that we ought to talk about.

The Earth’s magnetic field can flip…?

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/earth-magnetic-pole-vs-true-north-pole-248x300.gif (http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/earth-magnetic-pole-vs-true-north-pole.gif)
Earth’s magnetic north pole, vs. true/geographic north pole

As you probably remember from high school, the Earth is a giant bar magnet — a magnetic dipole with the north pole in the north, and the south pole in the south. If you imagine that there’s really a massive bar magnet in the middle of the Earth, it’s tilted by about 10 degrees from the planet’s axis, which is why the magnetic north pole — currently in the upper northern tracts of Canada — is a few hundred miles away from geographic/true north.

For now, magnetic north is close enough to true north that it doesn’t really matter (unless you’re trying to navigate using a compass in arctic or antarctic regions, in which case you’re in trouble). But the Earth’s magnetic field is shifting. New satellite data from the ESA shows that the Earth’s magnetic field is weakening 10 times faster than we previously thought — an indicator that scientists believe is a precursor to a geomagnetic reversal. At the time, there was nothing to worry about — previous geological records suggested that a geomagnetic reversal occurs over thousands of years. Now, however, a new study has analyzed rocks from the previous flip — the Matuyama-Brunhes magnetic reversal of 786,000 years ago — and found that the process completed in under 100 years (http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2014/10/14/earths-magnetic-field-could-flip-within-a-human-lifetime/).

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/earth-core-layers-crust-diagram-640x395.jpg (http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/earth-core-layers-crust-diagram.jpg)Earth’s various layers, including the crust, mantle, outer core, and inner core

What causes a geomagnetic reversal?

The Earth’s magnetic field is generated by the movement of molten iron in its outer core, through what’s known as the dynamo theory. We won’t know for sure until we actually get down there and do some investigating, but as far as scientific theories go it’s pretty well grounded.

Due to reasons we don’t fully understand, something causes the movement of the molten core to change — and thus the north and south poles switch. The most likely reason for the reversal is simply the general interaction and chaos of the massive dynamic forces at play — but there are some other hypothesized triggers, such as massive impacts, or significant plate tectonic shifts. The fact that there’s no evidence that a reversal occurred after the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event — the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/147978-finally-confirmed-an-asteroid-wiped-out-the-dinosaurs) — suggests that impact events probably aren’t the cause, though.

In any case, these geomagnetic reversals occur irregularly, averaging around 450,000 years between each switch. The last reversal — the Matuyama-Brunhes reversal — occurred about 780,000 years ago, so it’s high time for another one to occur.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/artist-impression-asteroid-impact-earth-640x353.jpg (http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/artist-impression-asteroid-impact-earth.jpg)

Are we all going to die horrible, fiery deaths?

At this point, scientists are pretty certain that a geomagnetic reversal is about to happen — they’re just not sure exactly when it will occur. Obviously, when you’re dealing with a mass of molten iron that is best measured in quintillions of tons, and your nearest seismological probes are thousands of miles away from the action, there’s a fair bit of guesswork involved.

If the ESA’s satellite data and the new paleomagnetic data (literally, the study of Earth’s magnetic fields by looking at rocks) are both accurate, then the Earth’s next geomagnetic reversal might have already begun. By the time we die — or at least when our children die — the north pole might be in the south.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/NASA_54559main_comparison1_strip-300x164.gif (http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/NASA_54559main_comparison1_strip.gif)
NASA’s simulation of what Earth’s magnetic fields might look like during a geomagnetic reversal

Sadly, we can only guess at what actually happens to Earth — and all the lovely organisms that live on its surface — during a geomagnetic reversal. Most hypotheses and simulations suggest that there’ll be a fairly long period during the reversal where the poles are all messed up — so at the very least, you can forget using your compass to navigate. Organisms that use magnetoception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoception) to navigate — birds, bacteria, bees — might themselves similarly confused.

During this period, there won’t be a north or south pole at all, which might impact some computers and navigational systems — but in most cases, I would’ve thought software updates, plus GPS satellites, will have us covered.

There is also the possibility that our magnetic field will be significantly weakened during the reversal process, which would leave us — and more importantly, our atmosphere — vulnerable to the eroding effects of highly charged solar particles (solar wind). This possibility has led some scientists to suggest that a geomagnetic reversal would cause an extinction event — but so far, there are no fossil records that suggest that previous reversals were followed by mass extinctions.

Likewise, considering many of the species currently on Earth lived through the last geomagnetic reversal, it would seem they already have some mechanism for coping with shifts in the magnetic field.

So, to answer the question: No, the impending geomagnetic reversal probably won’t cause some kind of apocalypse — but we may have to live through a few decades of pigeons getting lost, bacteria behaving weirdly, and other semi-serious problems. There is certainly a possibility that something nasty and world-ending will be triggered by a geomagnetic reversal — but we should have plenty of warning (months, years) if that’s the case.

wnlight
12th December 2016, 19:51
Thanks for the link to the timelinev1variant83. There is a tremendous wealth looking in that direction. I am now reading about Dr. Dan Burisch and the Ganesh particle and also about Dr. Tom Bearden.

wnlight
13th December 2016, 05:52
Lucidity, your 100:1 odds bet is very safe. The shortest period for the switchover provided by any scientists is 80 years, and it has been going on for maybe a dozen years so far. The switch will happen, but I am going out on a limb claiming it will happen by the year 2025. We don't really know when, of course. The last switch was nearly 800000 years ago. Also, the available data is not very precise. BTW, Earth scientists have been reducing the expected number of years faster than the Earth has been switching its magnetic poles!

wnlight
13th December 2016, 06:20
Well, Bill. A shift of only 1/2 of one degree would cause world-wide tsunami of proportions that would make the Fucashima tragedy look small in comparison.

Now, I have been wondering how many degrees tilt would it take to bring down the satellites. We use the geosynchronous communication satellites for TV and they would no longer be synchronous. Yet, the steerable satellites might be manageable to remain in orbit. The correctional steering would have to be done soon or the sats would wander off into uselessness. The GPS sats are in polar orbits that are already tilted. The GPS sat orbits are critical for computing locations on the Earth, but they are also constantly changing (by small amounts) and the orbits are continuously recalculated. I suspect that (1) the Navy would be aware very quickly that the sat positions are off, and (2) new calculations would bring the GPS system back in order within a day. No, I do not think that any sats would de-orbit.

BTW, publishers of astronomy books, charts, and maps would have a field day replacing everything if the Earth tilted on its axis by half a degree.

greybeard
13th December 2016, 21:43
Preparing for pole-shift 2017- Retired Military Man John Moore

Published on Oct 26, 2016

What the government knows for sure about the pole shift and loss of life
Why the CIA is being moved to Denver?


"Disclaimer---John Moore has been talking about this since as long as I can remember--so discretion required."
Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CYzuWqiso