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Justplain
16th December 2016, 15:55
Here's an article from the Vancouver Sun newsite that claims that scientists know how to slow ageing in mice via a gene stimulation therapy. There are ethical implications to this. There is also an implication that the black-ops folks have known about this for atleast 30 years. Any comments? Here's a snippet:


Scientists have shown it is possible to reverse ageing — in animals, at least.

The technique takes adult cells back to their embryonic form. U.S. researchers showed it was possible to reverse ageing in mice, letting them live for 30 per cent longer.

The technique involves stimulating four genes which are particularly active during development in the womb.

Scientists from the Salk Institute in California hope to eventually create a drug which can mimic the effect of the genes. This could then be taken to slow down, and even reverse, ageing. They say it could take 10 years to begin human trials.


http://www.vancouversun.com/scientists+reverse+aging+mice+human+trials+could+h orizon+within+years/12538572/story.html

Daozen
16th December 2016, 17:01
Looks good Justplain, but I wouldn't believe any timeframes. This technology will be in use right now, it would just take some digging...

lucidity
16th December 2016, 18:51
Here's an article from the Vancouver Sun newsite that claims that scientists know how to slow ageing in mice via a gene stimulation therapy. There are ethical implications to this. There is also an implication that the black-ops folks have known about this for atleast 30 years. Any comments? Here's a snippet:


Scientists have shown it is possible to reverse ageing — in animals, at least.

The technique takes adult cells back to their embryonic form. U.S. researchers showed it was possible to reverse ageing in mice, letting them live for 30 per cent longer.

The technique involves stimulating four genes which are particularly active during development in the womb.

Scientists from the Salk Institute in California hope to eventually create a drug which can mimic the effect of the genes. This could then be taken to slow down, and even reverse, ageing. They say it could take 10 years to begin human trials.


http://www.vancouversun.com/scientists+reverse+aging+mice+human+trials+could+h orizon+within+years/12538572/story.html


Unfortunately... there is a long running 'biotech' scam that involves biotech companies
making apparently 'miraculous' claims or predictions (usually based on ambiguous or
suspect animal models) just at the point in time when the biotech company concerned
is looking for fresh injection of investment funds.

The scam is aimed at investors... institutional investors and amateur investors.
This game is normally played with titles like: 'New Promising Cure for Cancer'.
or 'Fresh Hope for Alzheimer's Sufferers' . Often these companies make it particularly easy
for non-institutional traders, ie.. novice investors, to get involved. These 'amateur' investors
might have life-savings or inheritance money to invest... and no expertise in biotech.
If you fall into the amateur investor category.... don't!

I predict, this story, will go nowhere.

Justplain
16th December 2016, 22:29
Here's an article from the Vancouver Sun newsite that claims that scientists know how to slow ageing in mice via a gene stimulation therapy. There are ethical implications to this. There is also an implication that the black-ops folks have known about this for atleast 30 years. Any comments? Here's a snippet:


Scientists have shown it is possible to reverse ageing — in animals, at least.

The technique takes adult cells back to their embryonic form. U.S. researchers showed it was possible to reverse ageing in mice, letting them live for 30 per cent longer.

The technique involves stimulating four genes which are particularly active during development in the womb.

Scientists from the Salk Institute in California hope to eventually create a drug which can mimic the effect of the genes. This could then be taken to slow down, and even reverse, ageing. They say it could take 10 years to begin human trials.


http://www.vancouversun.com/scientists+reverse+aging+mice+human+trials+could+h orizon+within+years/12538572/story.html


Unfortunately... there is a long running 'biotech' scam that involves biotech companies
making apparently 'miraculous' claims or predictions (usually based on ambiguous or
suspect animal models) just at the point in time when the biotech company concerned
is looking for fresh injection of investment funds.

The scam is aimed at investors... institutional investors and amateur investors.
This game is normally played with titles like: 'New Promising Cure for Cancer'.
or 'Fresh Hope for Alzheimer's Sufferers' . Often these companies make it particularly easy
for non-institutional traders, ie.. novice investors, to get involved. These 'amateur' investors
might have life-savings or inheritance money to invest... and no expertise in biotech.
If you fall into the amateur investor category.... don't!

I predict, this story, will go nowhere.

Interesting viewpoint, Lucidity. Indeed this story eminates from the Salk Institute, which was founded by the biologist that developed the polio vaccine. Although they may be looking to raise money, they appear to be quite a successful organization, as per wikipedia:

The Salk Institute for Biological Studies is an independent, non-profit, scientific research institute located in La Jolla, San Diego, California, United States.[1] It was founded in 1960 by Jonas Salk, the developer of the polio vaccine; among the founding consultants were Jacob Bronowski and Francis Crick. Building did not start until spring of 1962. The institute consistently ranks among the top institutions in the US in terms of research output and quality in the life sciences.[2] In 2004, the Times Higher Education Supplement ranked Salk as the world's top biomedicine research institute,[3] and in 2009 it was ranked number one globally by ScienceWatch in the neuroscience and behavior areas.[4]
The institute employs 850 researchers in 60 research groups and focuses its research in three areas: molecular biology and genetics; neurosciences; and plant biology.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salk_Institute_for_Biological_Studies

Your concern reminds of another scientific claim made a year or two back about organic based batteries, that they were going to be 5% of the cost of regular batteries but just as efficient. Havent heard much since. Here's the info:

Cambridge, Mass. – January 8, 2014 – A team of Harvard scientists and engineers has demonstrated a new type of battery that could fundamentally transform the way electricity is stored on the grid, making power from renewable energy sources such as wind and solar far more economical and reliable.
The novel battery technology is reported in a paper published in Nature on January 9. Under the OPEN 2012 program, the Harvard team received funding from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Advanced Research Projects Agency–Energy (ARPA-E) to develop the innovative grid-scale battery and plans to work with ARPA-E to catalyze further technological and market breakthroughs over the next several years.
The paper reports a metal-free flow battery that relies on the electrochemistry of naturally abundant, inexpensive, small organic (carbon-based) molecules called quinones, which are similar to molecules that store energy in plants and animals.

https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2014/01/organic-mega-flow-battery-promises-breakthrough-for-renewable-energy

CurEus
17th December 2016, 06:36
I think the ethics of longevity medicine will be interesting. As a disruptive technology " anti aging" and "age reversing" tend towards "optimal living". If one is able to halt or reverse aging then it seems very likely that age related declines in cognition, physical ability would no longer be the issue they are today...there are whole industries that exist to treat aging bodies and minds. With new abilities to "print" replacement tissues, bones and organs coupled with new "CRISPR" gene editing technologies chronic illness, disease and disability may soon be treatable...

But most of here on Avalon "know" many effective therapies for many diseases are not available to the consuming public...will Pharmaceutical companies want to prevent their business model from being destroyed?

Rockerfeller is on his SIXTH heart transplant...

So...if we can live to 140...when do we "retire"? 120 years of being a wage slave is not very appealing. 1000 years under a despot would be no fun either.
Do we only have 1 child or none if we become essentially immortal?
Should we spend our children''s inheritance to stay living longer?
So on one hand we have people fighting to live longer and on the other end of the spectrum people lining up to be euthanized...
How horrible to be "sentenced" to live a few hundred years and be stuck with depression or other mental health illness.

It all seems like it could become a bit "trans-humanist" and that coupled with the insane propensity for eugenics agendas with TPTB it bears watching closely. I do tend to trust to hope.