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Pleiades
26th May 2017, 17:35
Hello dear avalonians :)

i don't know what i am, if i am being upgraded, or if i am an indigo or a starseed or a psychic. The thing is how can i talk and convince my parents about spirituality? Again i was having a real hard time today, with panic attacks and feeling out of control like i was going crazy and again i felt this light energy like water in me calming me down. So my question to you all is, how can i convince my parents that i am probably a psychic or that i have some kind of hypersensitivity.

I am having trouble doing my normal life, like going to school or work. Today i came home from school and i had to calm down for awhile because i was really stressed and feeling out of control but then i calmed down. This is really draining. I don't know if i'm like a sponge and capture things and feel like this, if i am a psychic or if i'm having some kind of nervous breakdown. Thanks to you all :)

conk
26th May 2017, 17:45
Best not to try. Influence those around you by your actions. It's dang near impossible to convince anyone of anything. Changing their mind is an affront to their perceived reality and they will fight it strongly. You must allow them to be who they are if you want to be who you are. Each has their own path. It's disheartening when the paths diverge, but sometimes it is necessary.

samildamach
26th May 2017, 17:56
You could well empathic .do you feel people's emotions without looking at them.feel others anger like a storm beating down on you.if so there are many threads here on Avalon with tips on how to deal with this and protect yourself

norman
26th May 2017, 18:04
You need the simplest most direct connection with your parents. I know that can seem impossible when you are in a tizzy about stuff yourself, but keep that idea firmly in your mind as much as possible when you are around them. Simple is best, crazy is, well, kinda crazy.

Bill Ryan
26th May 2017, 18:08
The thing is how can i talk and convince my parents about spirituality?

Don't even try. Serious advice.

Questions that may be valuable to reflect on:


Why is it important for me to have others' validation, agreement or acceptance?



Do I have any doubts about my self-worth (or self-truth) that require me to have others' approval?



Can I just live a spiritual life (whatever that means!) in my own inner reality, and then communicate — or even teach — my values, principles and worldview through my actions and demeanor?

The point here is that The Buddha probably didn't need to 'convince' anyone of anything. He was just The Buddha, and did his thing according to his inner guidance.

Maybe Jeshua (Christ) was the same. We may feel a little different, and not always feel quite so clear and confident, but we can still aim to lead our lives the same way.

drgreig
26th May 2017, 18:20
Did anyone ever have to convince you of your own spirituality? Chances are...you "woke up" all on your own, didn't you? We are all on our own path - and no matter how another is related to you - they as well are on their own path. There is no right or wrong about being who and what you are...awake or not. If one's "spirit" is not ready to wake...it is best not to try to do so from the OUTSIDE. Certainly heed the advice given about just doing your thing, and allow your actions to speak of your spiritual nature - not your words! If somebody is ready to seek out what they see in you - they will simply come to you. Just BE...just LOVE...and try to calm yourself (especially your mind) by meditating daily.

Peace!

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 18:30
Hello samildamach :) when i walk in the street and someone passes me by and they are angry or with a weird energy i capture this. And some people it feels like an attack. I feel it in my energy field or aura. I feel drained and then i feel my energy field weak. I feel very sensitive also mentally in my crown chackra. Maybe i'm also telepathic. How can i protect myself? Where are the tips? Thanks :)

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 18:35
Hello Bill Ryan :)
Yes you are right when you say Buda nor Jesus tried to convince people of anyhting. It's true, people have their own paths. But how can i explain what i feel to them and these things to them? Should i? They will probably judge me and think i'm crazy. Sometimes they don't understand how i feel disorientated or weird. I wish i could them that probably i'm a psychic.

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 18:39
Thank you for your advice. Yes i will probably try meditation or nature. I tend to attract people with problems. So i'm kind of insecure and scared about people. I don't know if they see that in me.

samildamach
26th May 2017, 19:00
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70941-30-Traits-Of-An-Empath-How-To-know-If-You-re-An-Empath&highlight=Empath
This is a fantastic thread and a great place to learn about who you are .for me I've learnt to drop all the negative energy I've had dumped on me and simply give it back.

Foxie Loxie
26th May 2017, 19:55
Hello, Pleiades! Welcome to the Forum! From what you wrote, it seems you could relate to what happened in George Kavasillas' life as a child. There are videos of him here on the Forum. I know I learned much from him. We are all "with you" here on your search. Good advice from Bill! No need to convince your parents; it would have to come from within themselves. Hope you can feel the Good Vibes we're sending your way! :heart:

regnak
26th May 2017, 21:04
Honour your parents but do not convince them your psychic go your own path if you can


On the secret truths I have learned is that we are all psychic to one degree or other .if you are having difficulties okay try this mediation sit in your mediation pose relax every muscle in your body completely imagine yourself completely relaxed now imagine a divine wave of energy going into every part of your body all stress and problems should melt away do this for 1 hour max you should feel stress free after

Good luck :cocktail:

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 21:18
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70941-30-Traits-Of-An-Empath-How-To-know-If-You-re-An-Empath&highlight=Empath
This is a fantastic thread and a great place to learn about who you are .for me I've learnt to drop all the negative energy I've had dumped on me and simply give it back.

I've read the traits of an empath and i feel almost all of them. But as an empath you suffer a lot. I feel pain everyday. I feel pain in my solar plexus. I feel so tense sometimes in my body that i start trembling or feel i'm going to blow up. Today i took 4 anxiety pills at once. Plus the one that i take at night. I felt i was going nuts. I want to have an active life and be social and i can't. Because i don't know when these things are going to happen to me. Are there any therapies that can help me? Should i do something with these gifts? I just know that right now i am suffering a lot.

Bill Ryan
26th May 2017, 21:19
Today i took 4 anxiety pills all at once.

Well, don't do that! :bearhug: Any drugs or medications will dampen everything, including your perception, awareness, and abilities. And they may become addictive.


I am also doing floral therapy of Dr. Bach. Hope it helps.

Yes, it will. They're totally harmless, and can really work well if you get the right combination of remedies — often, up to 5-6 (max) at once.

You can figure things out from this summary list, but best of all may be simply to use your own intuition. Go to a store where they have the whole set of 38, and then hold them next to your cheek (or maybe, just in your hand). You'll know which ones you need.


http://bachflower.com/original-bach-flower-remedies

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 21:33
Hello Foxie Loxie :) thank you so much for sending me good vibes :) Yes my parents are very resistant to what i tell them being spiritual matters or not, so i have to stick to myself and to my life. But sometimes i wished i could talk to them when i am feeling bad. Where are the videos of George Kavasillas? Yes i'm searching for people like me or that feel things that i do or have similar experiences. I was also interested has a kid in spirituality and extraterrestrial life. Sometimes i have a very hard time understanding how people live and think in this planet. We are very primitive.

ExomatrixTV
26th May 2017, 21:36
Do Religions destroy Spirituality? (...) and what are spiritual people anyway?


it's people taking responsibility for their own lives, not blaming others for their problems.
it's people who deliberately decide to learn and grow.
it's people who don't have to be right, except for themselves.
it's people seeing problems as lessons, perhaps in a long series of lives and lessons.
it's people who believe we are what we think we are, and can change ourselves by changing our thinking.
it's people who feel they can change the world by changing themselves, not by trying to change others.
it's people who search for strength from the universe by going inside themselves.
it's people that recognize that love doesn't have to have conditions attached.
it's people knowing and loving themselves in order to better know and love others.
it's people who see others as not better nor less but rather different than themselves, yet part of the same whole.
it's people that choose their own path rather than follow dogma.
it's people honoring your right to your own path, not theirs.
it's people who realize that now is all we have, since yesterday is just a thought and so is tomorrow.
it's people interested in owning themselves rather than things.
it's people who see joy in life rather than pain, having experienced enough pain already.
it's people curious about extra sensory perception and all it implies.
it's people in all walks of life, from business persons to flower essence healers, psychologists to UFO investigators.





Spirituality is not a religion with a hierarchy of priests and rituals , seeking converts, though some new-agers choose some ritual.
Spirituality is not often gloom-and-doomers, though many are concerned about ecology, the economy and other forces that affect our world.
Spirituality is not a movement based on guilt, anger, fear, or hurt, it is a journey toward the love that is our god.
Spirituality is not allegiance to one master; it is learning from many masters in the quest for the oneness of god [all that is].
Spirituality could not become a cult because of what is said above.
Spirituality is not just humans doing, it is humans being.


... and the good news is ... there is NO monopoly having genuine spirituality https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/faa/1/18/2764.png https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/fce/1/18/1f642.png

Flash
26th May 2017, 21:48
Hello dear avalonians :)

i don't know what i am, if i am being upgraded, or if i am an indigo or a starseed or a psychic. The thing is how can i talk and convince my parents about spirituality? Again i was having a real hard time today, with panic attacks and feeling out of control like i was going crazy and again i felt this light energy like water in me calming me down. So my question to you all is, how can i convince my parents that i am probably a psychic or that i have some kind of hypersensitivity.

I am having trouble doing my normal life, like going to school or work. Today i came home from school and i had to calm down for awhile because i was really stressed and feeling out of control but then i calmed down. This is really draining. I don't know if i'm like a sponge and capture things and feel like this, if i am a psychic or if i'm having some kind of nervous breakdown. Thanks to you all :)

I Wonder how old you are, since you are speaking about going to school. My questions is because if you are a teenager, up to 21 years old in fact, hormones are constantly changing and your body as well, adapting to this hormonal rush. Sometimes hormones are up, then you may feel great of tired, other times they are down, you may feel terrible, they finally stabilize completely around 20-21.

Also, you brain will be completed between 21 and 25 years old.

Therefore, in some periods of life, it is normal to feel stressed out, to have anxiety crisis, to think we are going crazy. But we ain't.... it is hormonal and growth stuff.

As for psychic or hypersensitive, yes, some people are more than others. But in todays world, it is getting quite normal. Share with your friends about that.

As for your parents, they certainly love you, why not just love them in return and not try to convince them of anything. It would make life much easier for all of you guys.

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 21:50
Hello Bill :) thank you for answering :) Concerning chemical medication i know i am crossing the line, and i know it can become addictive but sometimes i really can't control these attacks. Only when i walk for a long time i become better. I did rescue remedy for awhile and now i am trying cherry plum floral by dr. Bach. I am also doing the florals of Saint Germain protection (Brazilian florals). You suffer a lot as an empath. I love people that are very active, just need few hours to sleep and they keep going all day long. Unfortunately i still don't have mental and physical balance to do that. But i would love to be normal. I need to sleep to recover and sometimes be still and in a quiet place. Maybe it was my education or not, i am a only child. I don't know i wish i was more social but it is hard for me.

Pleiades
26th May 2017, 22:02
Yes Bill sometimes i search for people's acceptance and validation and most of the times i don't listen to myself, to my heart and intuition and i feel very confused like i'm not being myself and not doing my mission. Yes i have problems believing in my own truth and following my own truth and path. I want to live my spiritual life and by my actions and demeanor but many times i feel resistance of others they don't accept how i am and feel. And they don't accept what i want to do. Yes Buda didn't tried to convince anyone of anything. You are right. But i just wanted a little comprehension by my close ones. And i see them doing mistakes and i warn them and they don't listen. And things that are very basic and primitive.

regnak
26th May 2017, 22:04
Five pills seem a lot for stress . A lot people get sick because they cannot face there problems it bottles up and build the body seeks a outlet so after a while they get sick.

There are acupuncture points which relief stress like a pressure cooker over time it reliefs stress. Okay there are herbs which relief stress lemon balm is something I take. I belief that you should talk to a therapist which will ground you and stop your attacks or go to a Chinese qigong master who will teach you exercises to relief and help you .

justntime2learn
26th May 2017, 22:05
Do Religions destroy Spirituality? (...) and what are spiritual people anyway?


it's people taking responsibility for their own lives, not blaming others for their problems.
it's people who deliberately decide to learn and grow.
it's people who don't have to be right, except for themselves.
it's people seeing problems as lessons, perhaps in a long series of lives and lessons.
it's people who believe we are what we think we are, and can change ourselves by changing our thinking.
it's people who feel they can change the world by changing themselves, not by trying to change others.
it's people who search for strength from the universe by going inside themselves.
it's people that recognize that love doesn't have to have conditions attached.
it's people knowing and loving themselves in order to better know and love others.
it's people who see others as not better nor less but rather different than themselves, yet part of the same whole.
it's people that choose their own path rather than follow dogma.
it's people honoring your right to your own path, not theirs.
it's people who realize that now is all we have, since yesterday is just a thought and so is tomorrow.
it's people interested in owning themselves rather than things.
it's people who see joy in life rather than pain, having experienced enough pain already.
it's people curious about extra sensory perception and all it implies.
it's people in all walks of life, from business persons to flower essence healers, psychologists to UFO investigators.





Spirituality is not a religion with a hierarchy of priests and rituals , seeking converts, though some new-agers choose some ritual.
Spirituality is not often gloom-and-doomers, though many are concerned about ecology, the economy and other forces that affect our world.
Spirituality is not a movement based on guilt, anger, fear, or hurt, it is a journey toward the love that is our god.
Spirituality is not allegiance to one master; it is learning from many masters in the quest for the oneness of god [all that is].
Spirituality could not become a cult because of what is said above.
Spirituality is not just humans doing, it is humans being.


... and the good news is ... there is NO monopoly having genuine spirituality https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/faa/1/18/2764.png https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/fce/1/18/1f642.png

And you must have the ability to feel empathy to do these things Pleiades.

Do you live with your parents? More importantly, are they empathetic towards your feelings? There could be more at play than religion

I can relate to most of what you have mentioned thus far including anti anxiety (Clonazepam 1mg. 3 times a day)
I'm with Bill, it dampens what is happening and I think slows the process.

Please IM if you would like to talk privately.

Love and Light Pleiades :heart:

regnak
26th May 2017, 22:13
Giving details medical knowledge or therapy is not a good idea even in private pm my caution is that you that five tablets a day which I think is a lot

If your still in school join a club something you like . It sounds like a panic attach to me your asking help which is very good .:sun:

There could be better qualified or skilled people here than me

Advice Avalon if any:thumbsup:

DNA
26th May 2017, 22:21
Hello dear avalonians :)

i don't know what i am, if i am being upgraded, or if i am an indigo or a starseed or a psychic.
To be truly spiritual and enlightened is to be alone in your understanding. To attempt to push your understanding of the way things are on to others who are not ready for this information is not philanthropy, it is actually a selfish need to be understood and have someone corroborate your understandings. Hopefully you will meet someone though serendipity and or synchronicity who can provide this for you. But you really should not push your personal understandings on to others if they are not receptive to it.



The thing is how can i talk and convince my parents about spirituality? Again i was having a real hard time today, with panic attacks and feeling out of control like i was going crazy and again i felt this light energy like water in me calming me down. So my question to you all is, how can i convince my parents that i am probably a psychic or that i have some kind of hypersensitivity.

I am having trouble doing my normal life, like going to school or work. Today i came home from school and i had to calm down for awhile because i was really stressed and feeling out of control but then i calmed down. This is really draining. I don't know if i'm like a sponge and capture things and feel like this, if i am a psychic or if i'm having some kind of nervous breakdown. Thanks to you all :)
I went through something very similar to this when I was younger and the best thing I did for myself was to live on my own, by myself.
Quiet and personal time for reflection so you can sort things out.
Also, and I've stated this many times, being highly empathic is a real energetic drain on your chi/qi, as such being by yourself in a calm environment will help you replenish yourself. Highly empathic people pick up on so many nuances that are going on around them especially in so far as other people are concerned.
The best remedy is quiet and the ability to just unplug altogether from other people.
A small economically viable apartment would be a good place to start. No roommates.

Mike
26th May 2017, 23:18
You can't convince but you can communicate. Say something to them about it from time to time, but place no expectation on it at all.

The a-ha moment will have to come in their own time.

enigma3
27th May 2017, 00:11
Start with accepting yourself, warts and all. You must fall in like with yourself. Others judgements mean nothing here. Accept yourself totally. If you need a little help along the way, meditate on what others have pointed out to us that there is only ONE, which is THAT, that creates everything. This is a tough one for many starting a spiritual journey, but that is known by all who have gone before. Then consider the implications of that knowing. You (or more properly your sense of an individual I) percieves that it is in some kind of control. Nope. So a large part of accepting who you are is to realize that THAT which is one is indeed the source of all. Nothing to take responsibility for. When you sit and contemplate spirituality your junk (karma) will come to the surface. It always does. The key to dissolving this messy goo is to forgive. Let forgiveness be your guide. It is one of the most powerful forces in space. Now we have a trinity.
1. Realize that THAT, or oneness or whatever, is the sole source for all seen and unseen happenings in the realm of the senses. Actually that applies to all space and what occupies space. There is no free will, even if it appears that way. So relax. Sooner or later you will fully realize that the first order of creation, the first thing that comes out of one, is an energy that supports all life. That energy is what we weakly call love. You and me and all beings get to watch and bask in this marvelous, amazing unfoldment called life. From THAT comes LOVE and from love comes everything else.
2. Forgiveness can be an immense help in freeing yourself and relaxing further. I am reminded of the words of the Eagles who said, If I remember, "Forgiveness........Forgiveness.....even if, even if you don't love me anymore". Very powerful at removing baggage. We are given simple keys which can unlock many spiritual doors. Through forgiveness you will see that responsibility is a mental prison.
3. This journey, when pointed in the right direction, leads to a more and more relaxed state. This energy we call love is all powerful, infinite, and never changing. Expanded awareness will also come to you. Your "self" will slowly diminish as awareness expands. That's what you can look forward to. Your independence as a person comes on too (before the slow dissolution of the ego). The first great step is to realize you are the observer. That is quite liberating. We are here to enjoy the journey. Enjoy!

Hym
27th May 2017, 00:42
Pleiades. Play at Ease, but play you must!

You're young. If it seems too awkward to simply play more outside, what with being a young adult and being in a society of your peers influencing you on how to act, I would get involved in more strenuous activity, as you commented about how you feel after walking. Another fun way of gaining balance is taking part, in or out of school, with a group activity that automatically brings confidence, like ju jitsu, judo or wrestling. When we are in these group activities we exchange with others one on one and there is not much time for introspection. In these activities we live in the integrity of our actions, without the mind's interference and guess what......we find confidence in the power of simply being. When you are in that environment you can just see the thoughts of the day easily slip away.

Psychic energy is innate in all of us, but living in a body requires a grounding and connection to the nurturing presence of living on and with this earth. It quiets the mind and provides insight without much effort on your part. Dipping your feet in a cold stream, walking barefoot on grass and smooth, soft ground is healing to our entire being.

Some find that swimming every day brings great physical, mental and emotional, thus psychic, empathic calm. I am from this place also.

I have always found it easier to balance my life by eating vegetables that are grown at or below ground level. This includes onions, garlic, squash, potatoes, carrots, etc. I mix in spices and herbs that nourish my system. Salads, with a major portion of greens, are daily. Eat well with those things that energize you. Try to cook your own meals and enjoy the smells of the foods you cook. Eat in a quiet place and do so with your parents whenever you can, and make it a habit if you can. I stay away from excess sugar and caffeine intake as they unnaturally over-activate the mind. Chamomile tea, as many other teas, calm the mind and promote meditative states much easier.

Hear yourself say to yourself that you have the solutions within and that they will be realized. Your own voice, when heard by your own ears and processed in the real world where we hear the words of others affect us deeply, should be a comfort to you and should, by all rights of sovereignty, have equal or more effect upon your life than any of the words of others.

As far as taking those meds, it is good that you are into the Bach Remedies taken without quitting the meds altogether. If you do, along with your doctor's advice, decide to slow down or stop taking the meds, do so slowly. Quickly stopping anti-anxiety meds can lead to a quick and dangerous bout of depression, which is not what is needed here.

It is funny to say this but sometimes we have to accept the power of focusing outside of those things that we are overly tuned in to. Now, as in some times of great change in the past lives of humanity, there is an unnatural amount of activity going on in the spheres of the mind, and most of it is artificial or simply, released negative energy out to confuse and take away our energies. In taking charge of our own right to live in peace we often find the solutions to stop the noise. When was the last time you thought without words or some projected imagery?

Hym
27th May 2017, 01:25
I seem to attract those with great empathic ability and I'm sure they see in me some sort of effort in learning balance. I once was told a story of survival by a young man who was at a great difference with his parents and his method of healing is one of note.

This young man came out to his parents about his being gay. Because he lived in a very chauvinistic and emotionally oppressive Hispanic community, here in the states, his parents disowned him. As he didn't have the support system to move away, nor the financial ability, he just locked himself up in his bedroom and had as little interaction with his parents as possible. He would get his dinner, when his mother announced it was ready, and go back to his room and eat. Somewhere within the spirit he carried there was a strong sense of self and deserving which guided him to fight any thought or energy that would make him abuse himself or his body, in this time of abandonment. I could hear in him the solution and I could feel the inner strength of his words as he spoke them to me.

He had friends who were bulemic, and friends who were overeaters and very obese. He knew that he had to make his eating a reverential act and treat his one full meal a day differently. In this state of awareness, as most states of survival provide, he began eating as slowly as possible.

He went as slow in eating the food as he could, taking time to mix it in his mouth thoroughly, enough so it almost became a liquid before he swallowed it. He told me that eventually, in a few weeks time, it would take 20 to 30 minutes just to eat a handful of food. He had, thru the force of his integrity for his own life, found a secret that only a few warriors have found over the years......the power of fearlessness connected to the life food gives. This became his true comfort food, not there to hide or mask his conflict but to treat his own body with the dignity that others would not even consider. It worked. He soon was able to realize an inner strength beyond the one that insisted he not only be honest with himself, but with those who should have mattered, but didn't. He told me that he came to understand that the conflict was not his, it was his parents.

There are some explanations to this, like the importance of saliva in digestion, and the power of the upper palate when massaged and provided with liquid nutrition, the power of reaching the subconscious mind when the tongue makes prolonged contact with the palate.....all true. In our lives the courage we show ourselves, to step outside of the trances we are entrained to hold as reactions to emotional discomfort and pain, define the beauty that we should share with others.
May you understand and share your healing with those who come from the same place as you.

Whiskey_Mystic
27th May 2017, 02:41
Hello Bill Ryan :)
Yes you are right when you say Buda nor Jesus tried to convince people of anyhting. It's true, people have their own paths. But how can i explain what i feel to them and these things to them? Should i? They will probably judge me and think i'm crazy. Sometimes they don't understand how i feel disorientated or weird. I wish i could them that probably i'm a psychic.

I understand what you are saying. I would suggest that if you wish to live an extraordinary life, you will want to find a way to get comfortable with people judging you and thinking you are crazy. It can't be avoided.

I can assure you that there are people who think I am crazy. Probably multiply that number by a million for the number of people that think Bill is crazy. And even more for David Ike.

Just do YOU. Live the life you know is right for you and accept that others may not understand. And that's ok.

Bill Ryan
27th May 2017, 02:53
Probably multiply that number by a million for the number of people that think Bill is crazy.

Well, maybe by a few thousand. :)

But there's a serious point here. Once one starts to adopt unusual (i.e. non-normal) attitudes and beliefs, do unusual things, or have unusual experiences and perceptions, then one will always attract some criticism. That's guaranteed. (Many years ago I was seen as an oddball simply because I didn't drink, and was a vegetarian. Now, that's far more common, and those choices are accepted and respected.)

Many critics may be quiet or passive, but occasionally someone will enjoy being very hurtful. One just has to live with that. I do have to.

I've been blessed, though, by always having had friends or partners who have similar worldviews, or those with a significant, respectful overlap. That plays a major role in one's comfort. It's very stressful when one always has to watch what one says... in case someone jumps on it.

EFO
27th May 2017, 05:25
Hello Foxie Loxie :) thank you so much for sending me good vibes :) Yes my parents are very resistant to what i tell them being spiritual matters or not, so i have to stick to myself and to my life. But sometimes i wished i could talk to them when i am feeling bad. Where are the videos of George Kavasillas? Yes i'm searching for people like me or that feel things that i do or have similar experiences. I was also interested has a kid in spirituality and extraterrestrial life. Sometimes i have a very hard time understanding how people live and think in this planet. We are very primitive.

Pleiades,it will came a time when they will listen you.That time will be at your age of 40 or 50.Now they are young enough as you are.It's not their resilience to you,they simply don't understand what you talking about and are to lazy to change their lives based on a kid's words (parental superiority).You have to be veeery patient and step by step prepare yourself,observe and learn for that moment in your lives.

And one more thing:avoid as much as possible to take pills.Learn how to deal with panic attacks.Observe their sources and avoid them in the future.It's a hard process and will take some time,depending of your skills,but you will learn.

wnlight
27th May 2017, 15:44
Dear Pleades,
Welcome to the Project Avalon forum. Isn't this a great place to find knowledgeable and loving people? I agree with many here that you work on centering and grounding yourself with meditation. You are not alone. While meditating, look to you higher self for help and instructions. You may not hear the response immediately, particularly if you are new to this concept. Talk to your body and tell it to relax. It is, indeed, in the process of 'upgrading'. Hold off approaching anyone about your spirituality until you are fairly sure that person is open to and receptive to new ideas. You will be able to tell your parents, and others, simply by living a spiritual life. They will get the message eventually.

BTW, you can expect some people to love you for your spirituality and other to hate you for the same. Try to follow the advice of my mentor, José Martí who wrote this.
"Cultivo una rosa blanca
en junio como enero
para el amigo sincero
que me da su mano franca.
Y para el cruel que me arranca
el corazón con que vivo,
cardo ni ortiga cultivo;
cultivo la rosa blanca."

Translation:
"I have a white rose to tend
In July as in January;
I give it to the true friend
Who offers his frank hand to me.
And to the cruel one who tears out
the heart by which I live,
Thistle nor thorn do I give:
For him, too, I have a white rose.”

OBwan
27th May 2017, 17:42
Pleiades,

The following is a link for a process that may help with the need for medication.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?76245-How-to-Remove-Fearful-Feeling-from-Past-Memories&highlight=fear

WhiteFeather
27th May 2017, 20:14
Just plant seeds. There's no rush into making your garden grow to quickly. Little Sunlight, water and some smiles is all it takes.

waves
27th May 2017, 23:38
Pleiades,it will came a time when they will listen you.That time will be at your age of 40 or 50.Now they are young enough as you are.It's not their resilience to you,they simply don't understand what you talking about and are to lazy to change their lives based on a kid's words (parental superiority).You have to be veeery patient and step by step prepare yourself,observe and learn for that moment in your lives.......

I totally disagree that they will listen eventually and inevitably. It is not kind to give someone false hope. It sure didn't happen with any of my relatives before I got older and they died and I don't think my situation is uncommon. Better to begin the painful internal metamorphosis of accepting that it may never happen and be surprised and grateful if it ever does.

Pleiades, I get how much you love your parents. It is so painful to want to give them something that you feel is so helpful and important and they won't let you. I remember how it felt like some bonds breaking because you have no choice but to follow the truth as you see it and it feels like you have to leave people you love further and further behind to do it. But it's not abandoning them, it's a different level of love and tolerance you have to now find to accept them as they are on their own path - like countless other people that will come and go from your life. And it's going to be harder and harder to find common ground and interesting things to talk about. You can change friends, but not parents.

It will also feel like you're 'letting' your parents walk further into a doomed path, and it hard to accept that that's what it takes for some people to change paths. I think the best you can do is just be a shining example of the difference in your two philosophies without preaching it and let the benefits speak for themselves. Since it frequently comes down to making choices out of fear or not, and they will see over and over that horrible things aren't happening to you despite all the choices you're making that they would have been afraid to make. Don't think they won't notice, but they may not admit it all their lives. You can only hope you contributed to their soul learning from watching you for next lifetime.

Anyway, all of the above is what happened to me, maybe some of it is the same for you.

Best wishes.

zen deik
28th May 2017, 03:12
Look at "the stages of spiritual growth"..St.Francis "understand not be understood"...we are not in control of external things and that's OK... Live and let live... All have helped me to stay balanced at times...

ghostrider
28th May 2017, 14:05
The spiritual awakening is a process, each person must walk their path on their own terms, at their own pace ... This incarnation may be one of simply be to walk on earth , while an unconscious force effects their surroundings, contacts, or encounters ... The next lifetime may be the one where they gain the needed cognitions to have a spiritual awakening ... All you can do is be an example, be a force for good, letting positive vibrations spread out like a wave, washing over everything you experience ... The process eventually comes to everyone ... The pace is different for each person, let them explore their particular journey on their terms ... just my two cents ...

Bunny
18th August 2017, 21:17
Hi Pleiades,

Hmm...I would suggest using a grounding technique next time you feel nervous. For example, you can sit in a chair with your feet flat on the floor. Keep your spine straight and do not cross your arms, hands, legs, or feet. Envision 3 feet of golden light coming up from Mother Earth into the sole chakras of your feet. When you breathe in, breathe in at your heart chakra. When you breathe out, breathe out via the 3 feet of golden light down to Mother Earth. Say to yourself, "I accept this situation with love and release it." You can repeat this phrase when you breathe in and out.

Also, when you feel overwhelmed by others' energies, you can say to the energy, "I now return you back to where you came, in the name of God."

I hope that helps!

Take care!

Love,
Bunny

seehas
18th August 2017, 21:50
u cant convince someone about spirituality in first place...

you can start to use your sences and feel if they are asking the questions, and then lead them to some answers but never convince anyone about anything its the wrong path.

not everyone is here for the same journey never forget that, earth is like a big school and not everyone signed up for the same course.