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Harley
14th June 2017, 05:44
Just received this and haven't gone through it yet.
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Late night talk show host Heather Wade of Midnight in the Desert (http://midnightinthedesert.com) received documents last night from a trusted source. Immediately had Stanton Friedman take a look at these documents who said, “I have never seen anything like this, this is new MJ12 information.” Stanton Friedman is going to continue examining these documents for authenticity, but at this time we can find no evidence of forgery. Midnight In The Desert is posting these documents for all to see, and should you refer to these pages publicly IN ANY WAY, you must credit Heather Wade and Midnight In The Desert as the original source.

[Un-Redacted. Two pages per page for a total of 48 pages]
(Use the Rotate Dial in the top bar)

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/artbell/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UltraTopSecret.pdf

Direct Link: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/artbell/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UltraTopSecret.pdf

waves
14th June 2017, 06:37
Involuntary or not, that might be disclosure.

added:.. Then I skimmed the so called transcript of the 'conversation' with the EBE. Uh....besides huge red flags in the content, funny how the aliens spoke perfect English and even had the same 40's vernacular oddities and colloquialisms. Not sure now if just that part was made up and added at the time or the whole thing is fake.

https://s4.postimg.org/dtwa5zknx/Screen_Shot_2017-06-14_at_12.00.18_AM.png

Bill Ryan
14th June 2017, 15:00
To make this slightly easier to read, I've corrected the sideways alignment of the pages. Taking a close look at it now.


http://projectavalon.net/Ultra_Top_Secret_Classified_Roswell_document.pdf



http://projectavalon.net/Ultra_Top_Secret_Classified_Roswell_document.pdf

Bill Ryan
14th June 2017, 15:15
Uh....besides huge red flags in the content, funny how the aliens spoke perfect English and even had the same 40's vernacular oddities and colloquialisms. Not sure now if just that part was made up and added at the time or the whole thing is fake.



Taking a close look at it now.


Yes, this is a fake. I'm 95% sure. it looks good superficially, but the detailed content is way off.

Edit to add:

Now 100% sure. I didn't even finish reading it.

Bob
14th June 2017, 15:25
This might be out of place but maybe not..

Couple weeks ago I was in Abilene Texas doing some research. After completing my studies at that location (the chiggers are awful btw).. I had another location to do some research at, and such was slightly north (about 20 miles) of Pecos Texas to a place called Mentone.

I programmed in the GPS coordinates and started driving.

GPS started heading me north, for a shortcut to Mentone. No thoughts on that, the Garmin usually re-routes as needed to deal with construction, road incidents, etc.

After a while, I saw a sign saying Welcome to New Mexico .. ~!~ ??

I stopped, wondering what's what, and re-entered the GPS coordinates to my intended location (lat long.) And hit the "compute route", and again, it placed me at a location just SE of Roswell International Air Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_International_Air_Center) about 13 miles from the airport, just outside a town called Dexter. About 20 miles SE of Roswell.

And that is NOT anywhere near Mentone Texas ! GPS was sending me 2 h 29 min (135.4 mi) via US-285 N away from my programmed destination. It simply is NOT off by that much at any time I have seen it in operation.

The airport was Roswell Army International Airfield during World War II, and Walker Air Force Base during the Cold War. When it closed it was the largest base of the United States Air Force Strategic Air Command. Roswell International Air Center was developed after the closure of Walker Air Force Base on June 30, 1967.

Needless to say, I could not get my GPS to get me to the right location as the satellite signals were apparently coming in WRONGLY at that location.. ODD or not?

== update ==

Of course it is a "tongue in cheek joke" that an hour or so drive to the east is a place called the "Midland International Air and Space Port (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_International_Air_and_Space_Port)".

It is the only licensed US facility licensed by the Federal Aviation Administration to serve both scheduled airline flights and commercial human spaceflight.

Commercial human spaceflight ? Of course it is all a JOKE, right? about MJ-12, Roswell, and ET's running around there..

I do find it strange that my GPS kept routing me there, to Dexter. I suppose it is also just a strange coincidence that flying from Dexter to the NW one ends up at the Roswell "crash site".. Any chance that the information about the location was close to 180 degrees in the opposite direction, actually near Dexter, and not NW of Roswell?

Just to me, I've never seen my GPS do this, when programming in coordinates to have it 4 times re-route me to that same place.. no matter what I did, including restarts of the GPS, would it change to the proper location I needed.


alleged "crash site" coordinates

The alleged Hub Corn Ranch crash site, but it is located about 20 miles north of Roswell on HWY 285, then about 4 miles west on a dirt road that is marked where it leaves the highway with a sign indicating that it is the way to the UFO crash site.

Note on my map below, the distance is 20 miles SE, in the opposite direction of the alleged "Roswell Crash site"..


http://chanlo.com/images/gps-oddity-1.jpg

avid
14th June 2017, 16:26
Good grief, what's wrong with a printed road atlas in the boot/trunk of your vehicle, and a compass? I do critical bits prior to travelling on Google Earth with the road view, so I can memorise problems, and recognise scenarios en route.
However, travelling hundreds of miles - my mental recall would be compromised! Unless all the static road signs have been fiddled with, use a printed road map to 'ground' yourself 🙂

Disturbingly, Bob's method of navigation proves one can't trust GPS.... 🤔

Non-commercial non-human airport users probably don't have printed road atlases....

Bob
14th June 2017, 16:45
Good grief, what's wrong with a printed road atlas in the boot/trunk of your vehicle, and a compass? I do critical bits prior to travelling on Google Earth with the road view, so I can memorise problems, and recognise scenarios en route.
However, travelling hundreds of miles - my mental recall would be compromised! Unless all the static road signs have been fiddled with, use a printed road map to 'ground' yourself 🙂

Disturbingly, Bob's method of navigation proves one can't trust GPS.... 🤔

:) - when navigating long distances on roads which are not marked, the ole' map book doesn't provide the information needed, especially off the main beaten path.

What I had to do was get close to Mentone TX my intended "off-road" site, and then again put in the coordinates manually and I got to the destination. When I do research, my coordinates have to be accurate to about a 10 foot radius. A map book can't get me there..

The "anomaly" could have been programmed INTO the Garmin map product, maybe "disclosure" ?? that if one entered in something close enough, it would route one to another location, potentially an important location.

Having been in the area to the NW of Roswell, doing some field investigation of my own a few years ago (recall that I investigated Archuleta Mesa (Dulce) NM (http://www.santafenewmexican.com/life/features/move-over-roswell-dulce-is-home-to-true-ufo-believers/article_3164df9a-9813-5add-9b16-5e3a90c0340e.html)and did a thread on PA (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74930-Exploring-Dulce-Archuleta-and-the-surrounding-area-above-and-below-ground&p=876474&viewfull=1#post876474) about that..

My 'interest' in crash sites, DUMBS, and other historic reference sites for anomalies is something I can report on if anything is found (or not..)

Strange to be full circle "back to Roswell" after all these years.. even when I go out of my way to avoid it.

avid
14th June 2017, 17:04
I remember the Dulce area, so you've gone off onto 'ordnance survey' (or worse - zilch survey), fascinating, utilising any referential tech, but compass, visual et al, and still got redirected mentally...

Why should this happen to anyone, could anyone replicate situation?

Thanks for all your research Bob, peeling back the layers 👍

Bob
14th June 2017, 17:20
I remember the Dulce area, so you've gone off onto 'ordnance survey' (or worse - zilch survey), fascinating, utilising any referential tech, but compass, visual et al, and still got redirected mentally...

Why should this happen to anyone, could anyone replicate situation?

Thanks for all your research Bob, peeling back the layers 👍

:) Roswell of course holds a fascination for all of us, and to see folks circling around back to Dulce, Aztec, and Roswell is interesting in my opinion.

I would not put it past the disinformation campaign way back then when the alleged crashed craft, and bodies actually came from a location 180 degrees in the opposite direction, to get "investigators" as far away as possible from an actual location. I never found anything of any merit at the NW location, nor a little bit south of there.

Many years ago before doing investigations of "crash sites", I did find myself camping at the reservoir where the red dive flag https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/scuba-flag-waving-diver-down-n-50205150.jpg
is marked on my map above. I got to that location as I was on a drive from the south and wanted to stop to "feel the vibes".. way before using specialized detection equipment for viewing underground anomalies..

Such equipment consists of a 3 axis sensitive magnetometer, a gamma radiation spectrometer (both used in "drive-by remote sensing over targets"), and a 3D high resolution seismic detector used in the process of creating deep underground images of caverns, fractures, caches, minerals, water, etc. The seismic package is quite capable of detecting down two miles or so with ease.

I would think if one is in Abilene (or Hobbs) and is using the same GPS model as mine with the same map update one should get the same anomaly appearing.

When I entered the GPS coordinates into my iPhone at Hobbs, NM it did NOT direct me to the location at Dexter.. iPhone pointed me to Mentone TX as it should..

So maybe that was like an "easter egg" in the Garmin :).. or something interfered with the satellite that day.

I did first enter the direct coordinates about 9:30 AM Central time at Abilene TX, and then tried re-entering at about 12:45 PM, at Hobbs, NM after I saw the Welcome to NM signpost.

I was supposedly if I kept driving 95 miles NW, from Dexter, and no where near, my programmed in coordinates at Mentone Texas which was quite to the SOUTH of my location at Hobbs, NM. So at Abilene TX and at Hobbs NM, both locations I stopped the vehicle to manually enter in the destination coordinates.. and both locations pointed me to Dexter, not Mentone..

So focusing back on the OP post 1, a "disclosure" even if written as "fake news" may be some sort of hint to re-look back, but the missing piece it seems to me, is the strangeness that I experienced just a few weeks ago around there.. Why, I have no clue.

A niggling feeling in the back of my mind says, maybe Dexter, not the "Ranch NW of Roswell" where something happened.


http://i.imgur.com/q8PTNuq.gif

I may make a point of going exactly to where my Garmin GPS was sending me, and do some "underground deep search exploration" and see what shows up.. heck maybe a deep cavern or something may pop up on the display..

Why reference Roswell?

The alleged EBE supposedly was captured/taken still alive from the "crash".. (see ref post #2 above) to Roswell Army airbase and then interrogated. (see reference below: http://uf0news.blogspot.com/2016/01/project-serpo.html)


Ebe #I — Was found in the Roswell crash site near Corona, NM. Ebe #l was slightly hurt and quickly recovered from his wounds. Ebe #1 was a mechanic. He was able to communicate through pictures with Army personnel. They placed him in an isolation room at the Roswell Army Airfield. In September 1947, he was transferred to Kirtland Field and was again isolated in a medical unit.

During this time period, Ebe #1 worked with top military linguists. They were able to communicate with him by showing him photographs. They later developed symbols to communicate words.

[In linguistics, these are known as LOGOGRAMS or LOGOGRAPHS].

Eventually, Ebe #I was able to utilize these symbols to communicate his wants and needs.

wnlight
14th June 2017, 17:28
I have seen a lot of Top Secret and above documents. None of them were classified as "ULTRA" TOP SECRET. The cover pages and preface of this document do not comply with normal DOD classification markings. Likewise the markings throughout the document. It is a fake.

wnlight
14th June 2017, 17:54
Bob, I have been out that way, but used a paper map. I agree that the roads are not marked. Some years ago, I had business in San Antonio, NM. Afterwards, I decided to check out the Trinity Site and approached it via Hwy 380. The entrance was unmarked, but I was following my gut feeling. After some miles on a well-paved, unmarked road I came to some signs that mentioned inspections and also implied deadly force. So naturally, I continued. Linda wanted to turn back, but I had been in many restricted ares and knew how they worked. Further down the road, I came to a guard post. The first words out of this good-natured guard was "Look at that beautiful bird in the tree over there." She gently told me that I was not allowed to continue, but if I would park my car I could see the site from there. She then explained that the Trinity site is open to visitation, with restrictions, twice a year and gave me instructions to apply. Very nice.

Satori
14th June 2017, 19:39
Bob, I have been out that way, but used a paper map. I agree that the roads are not marked. Some years ago, I had business in San Antonio, NM. Afterwards, I decided to check out the Trinity Site and approached it via Hwy 380. The entrance was unmarked, but I was following my gut feeling. After some miles on a well-paved, unmarked road I came to some signs that mentioned inspections and also implied deadly force. So naturally, I continued. Linda wanted to turn back, but I had been in many restricted ares and knew how they worked. Further down the road, I came to a guard post. The first words out of this good-natured guard was "Look at that beautiful bird in the tree over there." She gently told me that I was not allowed to continue, but if I would park my car I could see the site from there. She then explained that the Trinity site is open to visitation, with restrictions, twice a year and gave me instructions to apply. Very nice.

Wow, business in San Antonio, NM. Not much there, unless you are into agriculture or wildlife preserves. Blink twice and you'll miss it as you pass through. Did you stop at the Owl Café for a green chile cheeseburger? The Owl Café is one of the few reasons people go there anymore.

norman
14th June 2017, 20:22
Uh....besides huge red flags in the content, funny how the aliens spoke perfect English and even had the same 40's vernacular oddities and colloquialisms. Not sure now if just that part was made up and added at the time or the whole thing is fake.



Taking a close look at it now.




Yes, this is a fake. I'm 95% sure. it looks good superficially, but the detailed content is way off.

Edit to add:

Now 100% sure. I didn't even finish reading it.


Good timing though . . . . . :sherlock:

Harley
14th June 2017, 21:27
I have seen a lot of Top Secret and above documents. None of them were classified as "ULTRA" TOP SECRET. The cover pages and preface of this document do not comply with normal DOD classification markings. Likewise the markings throughout the document. It is a fake.

Hate to differ wnlight, but I have. MANY times and MANY documents, but always from within a secured vault or secure conference/briefing room.

When I was first assigned to the World Wide Airborne Command Post (WWABNCP) network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Looking_Glass) (in the 70s), during my In-Brief I was handed a list of Required Reading which contained specific pages and paragraphs from within specified Classified Technical Orders/Manuals (TOs/TMs), and Documents which I had to be checked-off on, and then I was taken to a walk-in vault which only contained a large library and a small conference table and I was locked (from the inside to prevent outside entry) by myself. Needless to say, I was completely stunned (I was young and inexperienced) and so caught off guard that I ended up reading a whole lot more than my "Required Reading". When I finally exited the vault my trainer was right there and, looking at me with a big smile on his face, he simply said "Was that interesting?" :)

That was just the beginning. When I began flying with Looking Glass (https://fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/ec-135.htm) and NEACP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4) (Now Nightwatch) back in the 70's and 80s, I learned that the Alert Facilities and the Aircraft themselves were also considered Secured Vaults which contained lots of the same 'Good stuff', much of which I found to be very surprising because it had never been mentioned to me before (on the outside). Hence: "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY" or "EYES ONLY" and "NOT TO BE DISSEMINATED" (In-part or in-whole, in any way, shape, or form).

The ULTRA classification is real and even Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra) mentions it under Project MKUltra:

the word Ultra (which had previously been used to designate the most secret classification of World War II intelligence).

These documents still exist, none have not and probably never will be acknowledged or declassified (officially), and should you ever come into possession of an original I suggest you either release it to the public far and wide (so it can be masterfully debunked by official agencies) or else burn it (for proper personal health).

:)

Harley
14th June 2017, 21:41
Uh....besides huge red flags in the content, funny how the aliens spoke perfect English and even had the same 40's vernacular oddities and colloquialisms. Not sure now if just that part was made up and added at the time or the whole thing is fake.



Taking a close look at it now.


Yes, this is a fake. I'm 95% sure. it looks good superficially, but the detailed content is way off.

Edit to add:

Now 100% sure. I didn't even finish reading it.

I concur with Bill.

As I commented at the top, I hadn't gone through it yet (because it was so late when I posted it), but wanted to get it out there for everyone to go over because it was brand new.

Upon beginning my review of it this morning, it didn't take long to notice the first Flag:

HISTORY [Page A2-of-4, 1st Paragraph]

* "Bigger Command"
- Impossible terminology in any military document. Correct terminology would be Higher Command.

* "decommisstoned [unreadable] section at Flat Rock, Nevada."
- RARELY do you see misspelling such as this in any official document.
- As far as I know Flat Rock, Nevada has never existed, except for the fictional town used in the Sci-Fi movie The Andromeda Strain (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/) (1971)

I don't need to read any further than the second page.

Maybe we should edit the title to something like "An Example of a Fake MJ-12 Document".

:)

Bob
15th June 2017, 00:02
Seeing a 'faked' document won't stop me from going back to the coordinates my GPS kept sending me at Dexter, SE of Roswell, and gut feeling says maybe it wasn't a software glitch. And I will do some deep search seismic to see what's what.. And I'll report what I find or not, same with what I did at Dulce'. :)

To me all the coincidences appearing getting me to take a look around Roswell are interesting. I tend to go with my gut on things, and to me, it's to not drop taking another look around there.

Thanks for the thread Harley - I find it's served a purpose for me and for any other researchers willing to take a look not at the ranch to the NW of Roswell, but to look SE.

I would NOT have looked back at Roswell or the surrounding area otherwise. To me that means something and the 'thread' was not a waste..

== Post Update ==

Come to think of it, one would certainly create a poo poo document and release it if one were going to divert attention from the area.. (ehehe) good job diversion but it won't stop me and others from digging around there even more-so. I think I posted enough strange coincidences that poo poo'ing the thread as a known hoax won't work to bury it.. :ROFL:

Mike Gorman
15th June 2017, 04:48
Steve Bassett from Paradigm Research also flagged this 'release'. Whenever I see that guy, Stanton Friedman being involved it is always a bit disappointing.

Steve says this:

There are only four possible explanations for the existence of these documents. In order of probability there are:
government disinformation (limited hangout). Information "leaked" that contains much truth plus bogus elements obvious to skilled researchers - the purpose being to undermine the included truths and serve the truth embargo.
fully legitimate government documents.
Disinformation created and dispersed by private citizens who are not connected to or paid by the government, and who consider the matter of an extraterrestrial presence to be false and worthy of being thwarted.
false information created and dispersed by a person or persons convinced of an extraterrestrial presence in a misguided attempt to advance the issue.

The first two options are the most likely and about equal in probability.

I have a lot of respect for Steve Bassett - he is one of the more sincere alternative community researchers-although I think his desire to bring about official disclosure sometimes clouds his judgement; his robust opposition to the Washington 'swamp' is a credit to his genuine nature :)
I agree with Bill, these are fake, and play into the mid-weight UFO community's somewhat superficial understanding-and the cult of personality ego community!

Kryztian
16th June 2017, 01:26
Per Steven Bassett


A set of briefing documents related to the alleged Majestic 12 Group has been electronically delivered to the host of Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert, Heather Wade." The documents were provided by sources known to Ms. Wade who wish to remain anonymous at this time.

They are new and not previously seen by any researchers in the field. They appear to PRG to be basic briefing materials for persons being indoctrinated into an ET related USAP or the Majestic 12 group itself.

Over the coming weeks PRG will work closely with leading researchers into the history of the truth embargo and ET related government documents to determine the quality of this evidence. At the top of this list are Stanton Friedman, Richard Dolan and Col. Kevin Randle (USAF, ret.). [Note: at this time Stanton Friedman and Kevin Randle are scheduled to appear on Midnight in the Desert Friday evening, June 16, 9 pm PT.]
A set of briefing documents related to the alleged Majestic 12 Group has been electronically delivered to the host of Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert, Heather Wade." The documents were provided by sources known to Ms. Wade who wish to remain anonymous at this time.

They are new and not previously seen by any researchers in the field. They appear to PRG to be basic briefing materials for persons being indoctrinated into an ET related USAP or the Majestic 12 group itself.

Over the coming weeks PRG will work closely with leading researchers into the history of the truth embargo and ET related government documents to determine the quality of this evidence. At the top of this list are Stanton Friedman, Richard Dolan and Col. Kevin Randle (USAF, ret.). [Note: at this time Stanton Friedman and Kevin Randle are scheduled to appear on Midnight in the Desert Friday evening, June 16, 9 pm PT.]
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Update-6-15-17.htm


Per Linda Howe:



This leaked document describes four different types of non-humans interacting with Earth and describes in great detail the technologies studied by scientists such as Dr. Robert Oppenheimer and Dr. Vannevar Bush at the large disc crash in Hart Canyon near Aztec, New Mexico, on March 25, 1948. This leaked document also describes the Roswell crashes in the first week of July 1947, and the UFO Control Panel symbol icons, the Concept Icons, and the Numerical Language of lines and dots found on the leaked document's sequential page 46.


https://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2534&category=Science

You can download the document at:
http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Ultra-Top-Secret-MITD.pdf

ThePythonicCow
16th June 2017, 05:09
Per Steven Bassett


A set of briefing documents related to the alleged Majestic 12 Group has been electronically delivered to the host of Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert, Heather Wade." The documents were provided by sources known to Ms. Wade who wish to remain anonymous at this time.

They are new and not previously seen by any researchers in the field. They appear to PRG to be basic briefing materials for persons being indoctrinated into an ET related USAP or the Majestic 12 group itself.
...




http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98329-Classified-Ultra-Top-Secret--New-Hoaxed-MJ-12-document-- (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98329-Classified-Ultra-Top-Secret--New-Hoaxed-MJ-12-document--)

I merged this second thread about these documents into the prior thread about them.

p+52
16th June 2017, 17:03
I recall a lot of the same banter when the original MJ12 docs were released. Would all of the same earlier posters in this thread agree those are false as well?

section9
17th June 2017, 01:52
Uh....besides huge red flags in the content, funny how the aliens spoke perfect English and even had the same 40's vernacular oddities and colloquialisms. Not sure now if just that part was made up and added at the time or the whole thing is fake.



Taking a close look at it now.


Yes, this is a fake. I'm 95% sure. it looks good superficially, but the detailed content is way off.

Edit to add:

Now 100% sure. I didn't even finish reading it.

All right, Bill. Where is Richard Doty and what have you done with him? :bigsmile:

wnlight
17th June 2017, 01:57
We may be splitting hairs, Harley, but the "ULTRA" classification is a British designation, and not US. The US "MKULTRA" project is quite different. My comment is about the Top Secret markings on the document. A document marked "Ultra top secret" would imply simply that the contents are somehow above TS. While a compartmentalized document is marked "TOP SECRET" followed by the compartment code name such as "MKULTRA". So if there had been a compartment code name "ULTRA" then documents would have been marked "TOP SECRET ULTRA" on the top and bottom of every page. (I have been out of the black world for nearly thirty years and would not mention any of the project code words that I have been read into or stumbled upon.)

Perhaps this is another reason I will not allow myself to be hypnotized.

Callista
17th June 2017, 07:48
Michael Salla is spending a bit of time on it :

http://exopolitics.org/majestic-document-reveals-us-diplomatic-relations-with-extraterrestrials/

bbow73
17th June 2017, 09:09
if it's a fake then it's probably an ameteur. I don't think a deep black office would make a spelling error, but weirder things have happened). If it's legitimate (higher secrecy than our early nuclear weapons program and outside of any legal oversight) then I'd expect quite a bit of unfamiliar protocols. Either way it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Atlas
17th June 2017, 09:22
From sits.com/Secret-Space-Programs-and-Science-Fiction-Images-of-Space-Colonies-and-Stations-for-2100-Future (http://www.stillnessinthestorm.com/2016/06/NASAs-1970s-Futurist-Artwork-Reveals-Ties-to-Secret-Space-Programs-and-Science-Fiction-Images-of-Space-Colonies-and-Stations-for-2100-Future.html):
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_7s9zVvT2OM/V1XC2ElwpMI/AAAAAAAAWLE/ciZJ1Y5l_x4y0DmdO2Qaax62zmQbJsYsQCLcB/s1600/NASA%2527s%2B1970%2527s%2BFuturist%2BArtwork%2BReveals%2BTies%2Bto%2BSecret%2BSpace%2BPrograms%2Band %2BScience%2BFiction%2B%25E2%2580%2593%2BImages%2Bof%2BSpace%2BColonies%2Band%2BStations%2Bfor%2B210 0%2BFuture.jpg

Bill Ryan
17th June 2017, 09:29
Michael Salla is spending a bit of time on it :

http://exopolitics.org/majestic-document-reveals-us-diplomatic-relations-with-extraterrestrials/

I do have to say, if I may, that I'm staggered that it's not immediately obvious to other researchers that this is a hoax. The content is big reveal here. Read carefully, and it takes just a few minutes to spot the many anomalies.

I'd be confident that someone with authority out there (Ryan Wood? Friedman? Richard Dolan?) will quickly make a statement. If not, then it's another nail in the coffin of the gullible and malleable current state of ufology. The fakery here really is just so very clear.

Shadowself
17th June 2017, 11:57
Well, that was a waste of my time... but the coffee was good!

You're right Bill it's a fake. Here's a dead give away. The use of double exclamation mark on an official government document is highly unlikely. But the norm for UFO geeks.

35510

http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/exclaim.asp

The content is highly suspect as well.

waves
19th June 2017, 16:28
Now I'm really confused. I've both long had my box of serious suspicions about Linda Moulton Howe as playing some role - mostly because like Art Bell she's completely avoided 9-11, but mostly have a hard time disbelieving or distrusting her on everything she does address, which is practically all the other topics in the alternative world. I always feel that she really believes what she says and she often seems brilliant at putting 2 and 2 together and connecting dots in great depth, often scientific, names names and sources, etc.

I've never heard her more excited out of her mind than this first interview with her about these documents. Linda views them as the corroborative evidence she's been waiting for and can hardly get the words out fast enough at how it connects dots from throughout her investigative history and adds many that make perfect sense to her.

But she completely ignores the mountains of clearly ludicrous nonsense also in these pages, not even proposing some excuse for it. So now what do we make of both Linda and the content? Worst case scenario, it exposes Linda as a player all along, as if things, people and leads have been 'leaked' all along for her to report on and build a 'trusted' reputation for the controlled opposition to embed their narrative over time... or what?

In trying to analyze this, I really don't think it's in our best interest to make excuses for any parts of any story that are obviously wrong, lies or really dumb. Looking forward to how anyone else makes sense of it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGKuGCJuT_c

Bill Ryan
20th June 2017, 01:20
Looking forward to how anyone else makes sense of it.


Yes, this is mildly interesting (and kind of entertaining), but it's barely important. It'll almost certainly be incontrovertibly debunked by someone with a fairly high profile pretty soon. (If not, there's no hope for the research community!)

All I can say is that those who've enthusiastically endorsed it (I think also including Michael Salla, for one), will just look a little silly. It's so self-evident that this is faked, I can't even muster up any energy to write to others.

And if Tom DeLonge were ever to say that his handlers/contacts have confirmed to him it's a genuine leak, then he's busted, too. :)

Praxis
20th June 2017, 07:01
What is the possibility that it is being used to the poison the well? So yes there are obvious mistakes but does that mean all of it is bad? Could it be a case of 90% true 10%, or some ratio, fake so it gets some details wrong so then it can throw everything out while there are real things in there being thrown out to?

Please dont misconstrue this as an endorsement of this document as I have yet to actually view it because for some reason it wont show(it says things in japanese and I dont understand really just I can read that it cant open the format maybe)

It would then be useful for sinking anybody that endorses it. Just a thought.

Who is heather wade? I have never heard of her before.
Edit now that I have perused it.

Final question: On the last page, there is a triquetra on a pentagon in a circle.

has anyone seen this symbol before?

It looks like an alchemical transmutation circle

Callista
20th June 2017, 07:25
Michael Salla seems to think this doc is kosher:

http://exopolitics.org/new-majestic-document-corroborates-historic-ufo-best-seller/

Foxie Loxie
20th June 2017, 13:04
Do we really "need" any new evidence to surface revealing something has been going on? :confused:

bbow73
20th June 2017, 18:18
I'm curious about he anxiety about being fooled by a hoax. Does a researcher/investigator have their reputation damaged by being fooled? If the implication that they failed in some sort of evaluation procedure? I don't understand why there wouldn't be more grace for colleagues in UFOlogy. Everyone has different blind spots and hoaxers all have different levels of sophistication, just seems like this is why a multitude and diversity of researcher/investigators is beneficial. But the multiplicity and diversity can only be utilized is there is are open and civil lines of communication. I wish instead of cynicism and judgment of those who have been fooled there would instead by empathy and encouragement.

It seems to me the real crucifixions should be for the hoaxer and those they fooled.

at the same time... I've often wondered if some real things were presented in a hoaxy style to give a whistleblower an easy exit if they feel like they being surveilled or about to be caught. Also, I've wondered if a person that brought forward a claim or piece of evidence and later confessed that they were hoaxing was either mentally altered or forced to discredit themselves do to threat against them or someone they loved.

Sometimes I think the only way to know what's really going on is see for myself. It's too bad remote viewing and astral projection aren't less subjective. Courtney Brown and Ed Dames have been wrong in big ways (which brings us back to credibility and reputation), the sad thing is is that they have also been right about some things and the impulse of protecting ourselves from the shame of being wrong prevents us from being able access some things that are right... and profound. it sucks

norman
20th June 2017, 21:48
This release may only be the beginning.

Imagine the chaos if there is suddenly a huge "data dump" of what looks like world changing documents.

The hints from the David Wilcock Corey Goode camp sound like it's a real probability soon.

Shadowself
23rd June 2017, 17:24
The Black Vault weighs in on the documents:

Until further information is presented — The Black Vault is labeling this document a HOAX.

Alleged “NEW” MJ-12 Documents

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/new-majestic-12-mj-12-briefing-documents-released-june-2017/#

Bill Ryan
23rd June 2017, 22:03
The Black Vault weighs in on the documents:

Until further information is presented — The Black Vault is labeling this document a HOAX.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/new-majestic-12-mj-12-briefing-documents-released-june-2017/#

Quite right, too. :)

Their analysis:

~~~~~

Critique

Issue #1: TOP SECRET MARKING

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-35-22.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-35-22.png)“Top Secret” marking on the top of the newly released, “Majestic 12” documents.

Sadly, there are no documents that appear remotely close to the way these are displayed in the realm of REAL or guaranteed AUTHENTIC. The designation of “TOP SECRET” should be clearly marked on the TOP and BOTTOM of each page, and generally, with highly classified information, there is a codeword that follows “TOP SECRET,” for example, “TOP SECRET UMBRA.” (Please note: The security classification does not always appear on the top and bottom – but in many cases – it will. This isn’t a definite sign of a hoax, but it doesn’t help, in my book.)

To offer an example, TOP SECRET UMBRA was the designation for the UFO related “COMINT” (http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/ufos-the-national-security-agency-nsa-collection/) reports found at the National Security Agency (NSA). Here is an example of one of those TOP SECRET designation stamps:

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-46-02.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-46-02.png)
NSA “TOP SECRET UMBRA” document, released under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). You will note the classification designation listed on both the top and bottom.

Issue #2: “CLASSIFIED” Stamps Used to Redact Information

This is a big red flag in my book, and generally, a no-brainer to show this is a HOAXED document. If a document leaks from “the inside”, one can assume it is in the form that did not go through any declassification process. In this case, since the document is labeled “DO NOT DISSEMINATE OR DECLASSIFY” we can safely assume, that process never took place, or never would have taken place. So, this is, “The Original.” In other words, how the President, and whomever else might have “need to know” access, saw the document.

The President of the United States, however, would NOT be given a Top Secret briefing document, with information redacted or in this case, stamped out “CLASSIFIED.” This simply, would not happen — especially in the late 1980s when this document was created. Document handling procedures were decades in effect, and this element in the document would not be there.

Issue #3: Project AQUARIUS?

If this is truly a hoax, one can see that the hoaxer probably went to the 1990s, grabbed a UFO buzzword like Project Aquarius, and slapped it in this document. Problem is, I researched Project Aquarius many years ago, and it is nothing close to what this MJ-12 document (or the past references to it) allege.

Here is a screen shot of the official PROJECT AQUARIUS documents I was able to get declassified. The program is about ocean surveillance – not aliens. Why is this important? Because generally, project names are never repeated. So, the likelihood that a TOP SECRET Project Aquarius exists (other than this SECRET one discovered and described below) is pretty nil.

REAL Project Aquarius Documents


Project Aquarius Final Report (U) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/final.pdf)
Project Aquarius Quarterly Report (U) (2 March 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/2mar.pdf)
Project Aquarius Annual Report (U) (1 June 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/1jun.pdf)
Project Aquarius Special Report (U) (18 February 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/18feb.pdf)


http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-57-55.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-57-55.png)

Issue #4: The Interview

The interview with the alien just reads too much like fiction, a joke or just a writer trying to input too much politics.

Could you really imagine an alien saying what (s)he did, the way (s)he did? None of that part, on an intellectual level, makes sense. But beyond that, neither do the “facts.”

For example:

“Almost fifty years ago, you sent us signals. You were looking for us, and you scared us with a signal you should not have been capable of sending. So we answered.”

50 years ago? From where? The interview transcriptions were said to have been taken from interviews conducted April 1948 to March 1949, as done with the Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE) captured at the Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash site on March 25, 1948. So, using that date, this would put humanity sending a signal, attempting to contact aliens, in the late 19th century, circa 1898. This statement alone is wildly inaccurate.

The strongest signal that had the intent of contacting aliens, was first sent in November of 1974. It was known as the Arecibo Message. It was sent from the Arecibo Observatory, and blasted to a star system that was overhead during the time it was scheduled, specifically, Globular Cluster M13. M13 is 25,000 light years away from Earth, which means, the signal would take approximately 25,000 years to get there (if it got there at all). The return message, would take another 25,000 years. That time frame, obviously does not coincide with this data.

Carl Sagan’s “Contact” popularized Adolf Hitler as the first “signal” when the 1936 Olympics were broadcast from Berlin, Germany. Some theorized that this strong signal would leak into space, and someone might pick it up. However, that has largely also been debunked, since although the signal strength was strong for the time, it was not strong enough to reach into the Cosmos to any of our galactic neighbors.

There are many statements by the EBE in the “transcript” that can be dissected, but I think for the reasons outlined above, this is not necessary.

Issue #5: Formatting

I believe the date formatting is another issue in this document. The dates, as listed, do not coincide with how documents were written not only at the time, but to this day.

Here is an example from the document, which claimed to have been prepared in 1989:

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-52-32.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-52-32.png)

Here is one date format in the document.

Then a few pages later, in the same briefing document, the date formats differ and have dashes (-) and commas (,) where there shouldn’t be.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-54-12.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-54-12.png)
The same “briefing” document has a different date format, once that does not coincide with any style guide used by any federal or military agency.

Here is an OFFICIAL/AUTHENTIC declassified document, also written in the 1980s, which formerly had the classification SECRET, which shows the standard date formats used by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the same agency that allegedly created these MJ-12 papers.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-51-19.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-51-19.png)
In this authentic DIA document, date formats were consistent, had no commas, and were either typed or stamped, as shown.

I believe this date format also shows the difference between the formatting of a genuine document and these new MJ-12 papers, allegedly written around the same time frame. I chose to display a slightly older document for comparison, to show also that the MJ-12 papers allegedly prepared in 1989, do not coincide with the look of documents created by the same agency, at roughly the same time frame.

Until further information is presented — The Black Vault is labeling this document a HOAX.

Flash
23rd June 2017, 22:11
As a Young student I was a typist for a summer, I must have used the last underwiter typewriter in the whole of North America. The hoax document has the same type of typewriting, which I have never seen again in any official or non official document past 1980. Afterwards, electric typrewriter were everywhere and their caracter were like the documents that are not fake, presented here, as proof that the Mj12 document is a fake one.

So yes, the Mj12 document is a fake one - definitively not 1987.



The Black Vault weighs in on the documents:

Until further information is presented — The Black Vault is labeling this document a HOAX.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/new-majestic-12-mj-12-briefing-documents-released-june-2017/#

Quite right, too. :)

Their analysis:

~~~~~

Critique

Issue #1: TOP SECRET MARKING

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-35-22.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-35-22.png)“Top Secret” marking on the top of the newly released, “Majestic 12” documents.

Sadly, there are no documents that appear remotely close to the way these are displayed in the realm of REAL or guaranteed AUTHENTIC. The designation of “TOP SECRET” should be clearly marked on the TOP and BOTTOM of each page, and generally, with highly classified information, there is a codeword that follows “TOP SECRET,” for example, “TOP SECRET UMBRA.” (Please note: The security classification does not always appear on the top and bottom – but in many cases – it will. This isn’t a definite sign of a hoax, but it doesn’t help, in my book.)

To offer an example, TOP SECRET UMBRA was the designation for the UFO related “COMINT” (http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/ufos-the-national-security-agency-nsa-collection/) reports found at the National Security Agency (NSA). Here is an example of one of those TOP SECRET designation stamps:

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-46-02.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-46-02.png)
NSA “TOP SECRET UMBRA” document, released under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). You will note the classification designation listed on both the top and bottom.

Issue #2: “CLASSIFIED” Stamps Used to Redact Information

This is a big red flag in my book, and generally, a no-brainer to show this is a HOAXED document. If a document leaks from “the inside”, one can assume it is in the form that did not go through any declassification process. In this case, since the document is labeled “DO NOT DISSEMINATE OR DECLASSIFY” we can safely assume, that process never took place, or never would have taken place. So, this is, “The Original.” In other words, how the President, and whomever else might have “need to know” access, saw the document.

The President of the United States, however, would NOT be given a Top Secret briefing document, with information redacted or in this case, stamped out “CLASSIFIED.” This simply, would not happen — especially in the late 1980s when this document was created. Document handling procedures were decades in effect, and this element in the document would not be there.

Issue #3: Project AQUARIUS?

If this is truly a hoax, one can see that the hoaxer probably went to the 1990s, grabbed a UFO buzzword like Project Aquarius, and slapped it in this document. Problem is, I researched Project Aquarius many years ago, and it is nothing close to what this MJ-12 document (or the past references to it) allege.

Here is a screen shot of the official PROJECT AQUARIUS documents I was able to get declassified. The program is about ocean surveillance – not aliens. Why is this important? Because generally, project names are never repeated. So, the likelihood that a TOP SECRET Project Aquarius exists (other than this SECRET one discovered and described below) is pretty nil.

REAL Project Aquarius Documents


Project Aquarius Final Report (U) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/final.pdf)
Project Aquarius Quarterly Report (U) (2 March 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/2mar.pdf)
Project Aquarius Annual Report (U) (1 June 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/1jun.pdf)
Project Aquarius Special Report (U) (18 February 1970) (http://www.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/aquarius/18feb.pdf)


http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-57-55.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_11-57-55.png)

Issue #4: The Interview

The interview with the alien just reads too much like fiction, a joke or just a writer trying to input too much politics.

Could you really imagine an alien saying what (s)he did, the way (s)he did? None of that part, on an intellectual level, makes sense. But beyond that, neither do the “facts.”

For example:

“Almost fifty years ago, you sent us signals. You were looking for us, and you scared us with a signal you should not have been capable of sending. So we answered.”

50 years ago? From where? The interview transcriptions were said to have been taken from interviews conducted April 1948 to March 1949, as done with the Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE) captured at the Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash site on March 25, 1948. So, using that date, this would put humanity sending a signal, attempting to contact aliens, in the late 19th century, circa 1898. This statement alone is wildly inaccurate.

The strongest signal that had the intent of contacting aliens, was first sent in November of 1974. It was known as the Arecibo Message. It was sent from the Arecibo Observatory, and blasted to a star system that was overhead during the time it was scheduled, specifically, Globular Cluster M13. M13 is 25,000 light years away from Earth, which means, the signal would take approximately 25,000 years to get there (if it got there at all). The return message, would take another 25,000 years. That time frame, obviously does not coincide with this data.

Carl Sagan’s “Contact” popularized Adolf Hitler as the first “signal” when the 1936 Olympics were broadcast from Berlin, Germany. Some theorized that this strong signal would leak into space, and someone might pick it up. However, that has largely also been debunked, since although the signal strength was strong for the time, it was not strong enough to reach into the Cosmos to any of our galactic neighbors.

There are many statements by the EBE in the “transcript” that can be dissected, but I think for the reasons outlined above, this is not necessary.

Issue #5: Formatting

I believe the date formatting is another issue in this document. The dates, as listed, do not coincide with how documents were written not only at the time, but to this day.

Here is an example from the document, which claimed to have been prepared in 1989:

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-52-32.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-52-32.png)

Here is one date format in the document.

Then a few pages later, in the same briefing document, the date formats differ and have dashes (-) and commas (,) where there shouldn’t be.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-54-12.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-54-12.png)
The same “briefing” document has a different date format, once that does not coincide with any style guide used by any federal or military agency.

Here is an OFFICIAL/AUTHENTIC declassified document, also written in the 1980s, which formerly had the classification SECRET, which shows the standard date formats used by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the same agency that allegedly created these MJ-12 papers.

http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-51-19.png (http://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/2017-06-19_15-51-19.png)
In this authentic DIA document, date formats were consistent, had no commas, and were either typed or stamped, as shown.

I believe this date format also shows the difference between the formatting of a genuine document and these new MJ-12 papers, allegedly written around the same time frame. I chose to display a slightly older document for comparison, to show also that the MJ-12 papers allegedly prepared in 1989, do not coincide with the look of documents created by the same agency, at roughly the same time frame.

Until further information is presented — The Black Vault is labeling this document a HOAX.

onawah
23rd June 2017, 22:29
Flash, you are officially a whistleblower! :clapping:

PathWalker
6th July 2017, 20:54
Listen to this interview.
Linda reveals information you never dreamt about.
This is disclosure at it best from the top researcher of the field. Could not get better authority on the subject matter.

3 hours non stop new information and revelations.
The Roswell incident on steroids 1000 times more details.

Put your jaws well in places.
I was riveted to the seat.
I believe this is the interview of the year....
I am speechless, and I am not easily impressed any more...

wfmfhFOUqSg

norman
6th July 2017, 22:27
It IS fascinating, but, we do have to consider that material like this might be manufactured after the previous snippets of info such as that which Linda Howe has gathered over the years.

I wonder if it has crossed Linda Howe's mind to try to think of these documents as the final production made from her own notes ?

It's a case of flipping everything over and plotting it through your mind in reverse, rather than thinking of it as corroboration in a forward progressive ( and naturally honest ) orientation.

Technology these days is very capable of mind boggling ( reversing) stunts.

Of course, it could all be perfectly true too.

Harley
7th July 2017, 00:42
This is late night talk show host Heather Wade of Midnight In The Desert (http://midnightinthedesert.com/)

and the thread for the story is Classified: Ultra Top Secret (New Hoaxed 'MJ-12 document') (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98329-Classified-Ultra-Top-Secret--New-Hoaxed-MJ-12-document--)

Bill Ryan
7th July 2017, 01:25
This is late night talk show host Heather Wade of Midnight In The Desert (http://midnightinthedesert.com/)

and the thread for the story is Classified: Ultra Top Secret (New Hoaxed 'MJ-12 document') (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98329-Classified-Ultra-Top-Secret--New-Hoaxed-MJ-12-document--)

Thank you! Yes, it was 15 June, 2017. Here:


http://midnightinthedesert.com/linda-moulton-howe

(Also merging the threads as suggested)

CurEus
7th July 2017, 01:51
The thread I clicked on was Titled Linda Moutlon Howe Update June 2017 ( moved) why am I directed to this thread ? Re: Classified: Ultra Top Secret (New Hoaxed 'MJ-12 document')

Harley
7th July 2017, 02:59
Because it was Linda Moulton Howe as a guest on Midnight in The Desert discussing this subject.

EWO
7th July 2017, 15:52
In the interview I found it interesting she mentioned July 7 1947 777 as being a major line in the sand date.
Today is July 7 2017, also 777, and 70 years later.

just an observation.

Harley
23rd July 2017, 02:06
Linda Moulton Howe

Interview with Peter Capwell Thomas on newest MJ12 Document

PCT:

The word 'classified' on the very first page means nothing to any military guide. There's no such classification as 'classified.' That is really sort of a giveaway that the person has no idea what they're talking about.

LMH:

But you are convinced for a number of reasons that there is an alien presence on this planet?

PCT:

Oh Yeah. Absolutely convinced. There's not the slightest doubt of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9Y7JMIeBY
Earthfiles
Published on Jul 22, 2017
Update from Linda Moulton Howe on the most recent Majestic 12 documents.

Fraud Leak Update 06/29/2017 - Professional Government Analysts Say Alleged DIA Document “Is Not Real”

“The word 'classified' on the very first page means nothing to any military guide. There's no such classification as 'classified.' That is really sort of a giveaway that the person has no idea what they're talking about.”

- Peter Capwell Thomas, retired U. S. Navy NT 5, acoustic and operations analyst for 26 years, Waterford, Virginia

On June 16, 2017, Linda Moulton Howe received an email from Peter Capwell Thomas, 61, from Waterford, Virginia. He was a U. S. Navy NT 5 acoustic and operations analyst who retired October 2012, after a 26-year career for the Navy. Every day he had to research the Navy's Classification Guidelines book, which was itself classified. Peter had to properly process subjects related to robotics, underwater technologies, and other evolving advanced technologies and had to reference how those subjects needed to be used as Classified, Secret and Top Secret documents. Because of unofficial conversations about UFOs and E. T.s, he has done a lot of research about the phenomenon.

“There are extensive manuals on exactly how to treat materials. These manuals tell you how to mark all classified materials. There is no wiggle room. These are military organizations. So when we look at the very first page of this, we see the very first page is a mess. And it's hard to know even where to start.

WELL, JUST START AT THE TOP SO THAT WE CAN EDUCATE THE GENERAL AUDIENCE.

OK. So the very first rule is that any document is marked top and bottom with the highest classification of any of the material that is in that document. Do you see that logo, The Defense Intelligence Agency? That should say, "Top-Secret." And those letters must be the biggest letters on the page.

It must go at top and bottom. Also, on that front page should be a control number because certainly every top-secret document is what they call controlled. That is when it is issued, a physical copy is made, a number is put on it. [ There is no front page control number.]

Bill Ryan
23rd July 2017, 02:32
Fraud Leak Update 06/29/2017 - Professional Government Analysts Say Alleged DIA Document “Is Not Real”

Kudos to Linda Howe for making a very clear statement. One was needed! :thumbsup:

—>


Michael Salla is spending a bit of time on it :

http://exopolitics.org/majestic-document-reveals-us-diplomatic-relations-with-extraterrestrials/

I do have to say, if I may, that I'm staggered that it's not immediately obvious to other researchers that this is a hoax. The content is big reveal here. Read carefully, and it takes just a few minutes to spot the many anomalies.

I'd be confident that someone with authority out there (Ryan Wood? Friedman? Richard Dolan?) will quickly make a statement. If not, then it's another nail in the coffin of the gullible and malleable current state of ufology. The fakery here really is just so very clear.

bogeyman
23rd July 2017, 03:29
If you cannot verify it, leave it well alone. The intelligence services are a master at manipulation and devious tactics, this smells of counter insurgency and counter intelligence influence.