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False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies
The False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies
Harley Hawkins
14 DEC 2010
[Please note that I am in no way promoting doom and gloom and fear. Keep in mind that the purpose of these discussions are for us to figure out what the plans are, how the events may unfold, and what we as a group might be able to do to either stop or change those plans. I believe that once there is a general consensus amongst the group, simply publishing our analysis could "Throw a huge wrench" in their plans, possibly forcing them to (at the least) make adjustments. -HH]
Almost immediately after Bill announced the plans for Demonization / Criminalization of the alternative media, he was personally attacked on the open forum and the highly publicized criminalization of Wikileaks began. By now I would think that it should be rather obvious to most that these plans within their agenda have already started and that they are happening NOW. Since being BEHIND the ball isn't going to do anyone any good, my question is: WHEN DO WE START? And my answer is: WE START NOW!
The False Flag Alien Threat:
I have not said anything about this up until now because I was waiting to see if someone else might. But because I have had a growing concern for some time, which has almost become a sense of urgency within myself, I feel I need to say this now. Whatever I know or think I know does not matter in the least. You may accept or reject any or all of this. That is entirely up to you. But at least the seed will have been planted. Keep in mind that if some or none of this comes to pass there's always the possibility that the seeds of truth that we have planted has exposed enough of their plans to the greater public to cause them to cancel or change their course of action. Ideally, that is our goal.
The Attack:
This will truly be an international event. But unlike 9-11, which only occurred in the U.S., it will have to be magnitudes bigger (After 9-11, remember the difficulties Bush had in convincing NATO and the allies to join "his war"?). However, even at that it's not going to be that difficult or take that much to convince an unsuspecting world that aliens are attacking. And most everything needed to accomplish such a feat is in place RIGHT NOW. I won't attempt to go into any details of the assault because details have to be always adjustable according to changing events as they occur, but I will list some (possible) things to look for. I will also attempt to list the possible differences in the sequences of events between a Real Enemy attack and a False Flag attack so that when it occurs you may more easily identify which it is.
And please, by all means, feel free to read between the lines!
Either Scenario could begin similarly:
1. A few MAJOR siting events from around the world and broadcast live to the world. (Escalation)
2. A UFO or two is reported as being brought down, with dead and captured-alive aliens. (Escalation)
3. A few of earth's military assets from around the world are reportedly taken out. An F16 here, an F22 there, throw in a few MIGS, and maybe even a ship or two. All with loss of life. (Escalation)
Real Enemy:
WAR
1. Take out ALL of earth's satellites - Communications, Radar and Tracking, Space-Based Weapons – All of it including the International Space Station. At this point we will have no more TV coverage unless you have an antenna.
2. Take out earth's air, ground, and sea defenses and Command and Control facilities.
3. Begin taking out earth's infrastructure: Power and water plants, Food supply, etc. (Depending on the aliens agenda or when we surrender.
I need not go any further.
False-Flag Enemy:
WAR
1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.
2. Along with the re-entering satellites will come the take-down of the I.S.S. This will be your Major International Event because it will be watched by everyone, on TV. (Maximum Effect).
3. ICBM's in the U.S., and possibly even in the U.K., Russia, or other areas of the world, will be attacked and disabled. Although ICBM's are not defensive systems and cannot be used as interceptors, this will prove to have a great additional effect because the public has already been “conditioned” to possible UFO/ICBM shutdowns.
4. Air battles and missile launches will be witnessed by everyone, but it will all be skewed to depict the earth as “Holding It's Own”. We will see wins here and losses there, but they will want the population to believe that we have a chance at defeating the enemy BECAUSE they want this to be a long-term, long-standing war.
5. Over the years, most freedoms and many lives will be lost. ALL FOR A LIE!
There is one more possibility that I'd like to mention. Has anyone gave much real thought as to why the last Space Shuttle mission marking the end of the Space Shuttle Program has been delayed so many times and for so long? Sure, I know there are sometimes delays. But for six months or more? Also does everyone know who canceled the Space Shuttle Program? No it was NOT Obama. It was Bush! The Shuttle System was conceived exclusively for the building and servicing of the I.S.S., so basically what this means is the end of the shuttles marks the completion and any major servicing of the station. In other words It Is In-Place. Also, wouldn't that be a tremendous “effect” for everyone to see the final shuttle “Shot Down” while on landing approach, say over L.A.?
Now that I have myself completely depressed, as I'm sure you all are also, I think I'd better stop. I REALLY do not enjoy saying this stuff but I also REALLY need to bring it out in the open. This is one of the reasons I was brought here and I am trying to help. The more people who know how to identify and understand these events as they occur, the more that will cry FOUL and say
WE ARE NOT BUYING IT!
Many thanks to Bill, Hiram, and all of my friends whom have supported and encouraged me. We CAN and WILL make this OUR UNIVERSE!
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Very well said Harley
It IS our Universe, they just dont know it yet.
The game has changed, this is our playing field now..
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What you say Harley is certainly one possible scenario.
Another one might be that they come to save us from ourselves.War,disease,economic or environmental collapse etc.Just when things are about to get bad 'they' show up just in time to 'save us'.
Another one might be that they show up in 'peace' and offer to 'enlighten' us on what's out there etc.
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Yes ponda,
However the scenarios that you are referring to do not fall within the context of this subject. This subject is not about if, when, or why the ETs might "show up".
Thank You,
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No probs harley.
I didn't realize that the thread was limited to that particular scenario.My mistake.
cheers
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Harley Hawkins
Yes ponda,
However the scenarios that you are referring to do not fall within the context of this subject. This subject is not about if, when, or why the ETs might "show up".
Thank You,
So what you saying is that the info/possibilities you explains have valid info backing them? Its a real scenario that just have no preset events and it just changes as we go? Is it the real deal?
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Etherios
So what you saying is that the info/possibilities you explains have valid info backing them? Its a real scenario that just have no preset events and it just changes as we go? Is it the real deal?
Hi Etherios,
Asking this kindly and with all due respect: Did you read the full text of the article? Or are you just responding to the title of the thread? I ask this because all of your comments and questions here are covered (quite plainly) in the article, and the purpose of the article was also made quite clear.
Thanks! :)
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Harley Hawkins
Hi Etherios,
Asking this kindly and with all due respect: Did you read the full text of the article? Or are you just responding to the title of the thread? I ask this because all of your comments and questions here are covered (quite plainly) in the article, and the purpose of the article was also made quite clear.
Thanks! :)
ofc i read the hole article... the problem is that i dont see any evidence or any link to evidence. Also you cant explain more details so in the end its a scenario that might happen or the details of it are a possibility... too much maybe :-P
Anyway i hope that we are all still alive when this happens and we are able to expose to the ppl around us that this is all a false flag. Tbh i really wish we could avoid all these but the ptb are just ruthless.
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You guys are hijacking Harley's thread. Let's get :focus:
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Hi Harley Hawkins,
Hi Everybody,
Dr. Carol Rosin stated years ago that the governments would try and stage a false flag alien invasion. This was told to her by Vernon Von Braun in 1974. https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbsWvaNBPKI She publicly stated this at the Diclosure Project held at the National Press Club organized by Dr. Steven Greer back in 2001.
Best regards,
Steve
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I can state, without going into any more detail that what Harley has posted, this topic has validity and is a possible scenario that may be fast approaching.
Its not about real E.T.s, its concerning the possibility for manufactured, false-flag alien attack in order to galvanize the human race and throw them into passivity and chaos. Then the governments of the world step in and offer to protect us from this "Threat". The threat doesn't have to be real, only appear to be real.
TPTB get to remain in control for the time being, absolute control, something that (because of rapidly advancing technology in the public sector) they are fast losing in this day and time. They simply cannot allow this to happen.
The governments of the world must be the supreme authority for the people. There can be no other power for the people to turn to for help, THEY CERTAINLY must not think they can turn to themselves.
This false flag--carried out successfully--- will cement the power and control structure for a generation.
It behooves us to consider this.
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Hiram;
Like Inigo Montoya, "Lemme esplain.
No, there is no time to esplain, lemme sum up."
1. Nobody from the government is going to show up, on your front lawn, and protect you from a damned thing.
2. So, next best thing is to get you to 'join up' and protect government from everything it's afraid of.
Said list is never-ending.
Fred
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I fail to see how super-soldiers are germane to this thread? This (supersoldiers) seems like a topic that should have its own thread. In fact I'm suspicious that it is a distraction here.
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Hello Harley,
Everybody!.....With all due respect, the topic and conditions of this thread have been pointed out in the original post by Harley. Everyone here is getting way off-topic and we should show a bit more respect and get back on track!!!!
Thank you Beth!!!
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You guys are hijacking Harley's thread. Let's get :focus:
Now that we got that cleared.....first I would like to say,
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And please, by all means, feel free to read between the lines!
Either Scenario could begin similarly:
1. A few MAJOR siting events from around the world and broadcast live to the world. (Escalation)
2. A UFO or two is reported as being brought down, with dead and captured-alive aliens. (Escalation)
3. A few of earth's military assets from around the world are reportedly taken out. An F16 here, an F22 there, throw in a few MIGS, and maybe even a ship or two. All with loss of life. (Escalation)
Real Enemy:
WAR
1. Take out ALL of earth's satellites - Communications, Radar and Tracking, Space-Based Weapons – All of it including the International Space Station. At this point we will have no more TV coverage unless you have an antenna.
2. Take out earth's air, ground, and sea defenses and Command and Control facilities.
3. Begin taking out earth's infrastructure: Power and water plants, Food supply, etc. (Depending on the aliens agenda or when we surrender.
I need not go any further.
False-Flag Enemy:
WAR
1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.
2. Along with the re-entering satellites will come the take-down of the I.S.S. This will be your Major International Event because it will be watched by everyone, on TV. (Maximum Effect).
3. ICBM's in the U.S., and possibly even in the U.K., Russia, or other areas of the world, will be attacked and disabled. Although ICBM's are not defensive systems and cannot be used as interceptors, this will prove to have a great additional effect because the public has already been “conditioned” to possible UFO/ICBM shutdowns.
4. Air battles and missile launches will be witnessed by everyone, but it will all be skewed to depict the earth as “Holding It's Own”. We will see wins here and losses there, but they will want the population to believe that we have a chance at defeating the enemy BECAUSE they want this to be a long-term, long-standing war.
5. Over the years, most freedoms and many lives will be lost. ALL FOR A LIE!
There is one more possibility that I'd like to mention. Has anyone gave much real thought as to why the last Space Shuttle mission marking the end of the Space Shuttle Program has been delayed so many times and for so long? Sure, I know there are sometimes delays. But for six months or more? Also does everyone know who canceled the Space Shuttle Program? No it was NOT Obama. It was Bush! The Shuttle System was conceived exclusively for the building and servicing of the I.S.S., so basically what this means is the end of the shuttles marks the completion and any major servicing of the station. In other words It Is In-Place. Also, wouldn't that be a tremendous “effect” for everyone to see the final shuttle “Shot Down” while on landing approach, say over L.A.?
Now that I have myself completely depressed, as I'm sure you all are also, I think I'd better stop. I REALLY do not enjoy saying this stuff but I also REALLY need to bring it out in the open. This is one of the reasons I was brought here and I am trying to help. The more people who know how to identify and understand these events as they occur, the more that will cry FOUL and say
WE ARE NOT BUYING IT!
Very well said Harley..............http://www9l.incredimail.com/scache/...12355_prev.gif.
I had posted the following "Alien Invasion Movies Coming Out 2011/2012" on my blog and I think it correlates with your post.
Hollywood is deeply involved in this!....Has anyone wounder why so many films have been dead on and now they have a parade of "Alien Invasion" movies coming out for the next couple of years? Take a look at "The Day after Tomorrow", has anyone noticed how this film has been playing continuously since it's released on TV? and now most of the Norther Hemisphere is being threaten by a mini Ice Age thanks to the BP Oil Spill.
Wake-Up people, what Harvey is trying to convey to us is that this is a very realistic scenario and the signs to look for in case of such events develop, please don't make it out to be something else and let's get back on topic.
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Many thanks to Bill, Hiram, and all of my friends whom have supported and encouraged me. We CAN and WILL make this OUR UNIVERSE!
This Gentleman is a dear friend of Bill's and if he was invited here is because he may have something important to share with us. Some of us may need to learn how to listen more and read between the lines.
"Learn to appreciate all knowledge for what it is, for if it has arrived in your live it may be for a specific reason. Take it, inject it, process it and digested.....FULLY Understand it, make it part of your daily life and when the moment comes Recall it and act upon it........This in terms is what makes you a Wiser Person!"
PS
Please forgive me if my comments where taken personally by anybody....those were not my intentions!!!
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Ok we we need to arm ourselves with discernment and skepticism to counter any attack, real or FAKE on us and our loved ones (and hopefully we can expand that definition ever outwards to encompass more and more of our brothers and sisters) - strength lies in numbers. The more awake and aware we are the better we can take care of business at hand. Conversely the more asleep and benumbed we are "ALL THE BETTER TO EAT YOU UP" as the Big Bad Wolf once said eloquently.
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To me this is the most essential of the false flag requirements.:
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False-Flag Enemy:
WAR
1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.
Whenever I envision any attack or such, I come to the realization that this global communications vector is what will carry the inertia of the FF event and allow it to escalate.
Said another way....... no TV, no imprisonment.
jeanna
[so kill yer TV]
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Sorry for side stepping the topic.
Rich
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Hiram
Agreed. I notice a pattern there. Look over here...pay no attention to that. I do think it needs it's own thread though because there is alot of interest in discussing it on this forum.
I am much more interested in a false flag alien threat. I think that is important for us to discuss here.
Imagine 9-11 on crack, LSD, and lots and lots of steroids.......This would be the calibur of a false flag alien attack. A nameless, faceless enemy(just like terrorists) to keep all eath's masses in fear. Its a brilliant idea and if the technology is there i don't see why it couldn't happen. Hiram is right, control via this avenue would last GENERATIONS.
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Koyaanisqatsi you forgot enormous amounts of testosterone
I suggest that there would be two main hallmarks of a fake attack - i.e. that significant elements of what I call the two hollow supporting pillars of TPTB's sacred temple, Joachin and Boaz, would remain standing because they are essential to TPTB continuing to operate their control paradigm. One pillar is the economic system, through which these vampires extract our blood to nourish themselves and the other pillar is the communications system that they rely upon to brainwash and intimidate us and to control the machinery of their far-flung system. If significant elements of these two pillars remain standing that means to me that it is a false attack................if those pillars fall - we are actually under attack by..........?????????????
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False flag? Oldest game in the book...has been and will continue to be the source of all control, on all levels of earths SYSTEM structures, including off world and it seems...somewhat Universal.
I am writing below and linking, for those who wish for a better understanding of what exactly is a Falseflag, how it has been and is still widely used today.
"False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and are OFTEN used in peace-time".
Here are some excellent examples of Falseflag dealings, which once understood, clearly shows how this is used and also falls under other 'Umbrella names'
This gives us a clear understanding that this form of 'Falseflag usage' works extremely well...for whoever is in control, on and off world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
Ross
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What is the ultimate goal of this false flag or even real attack? Who wins what? How will they know when they've won?
Destroyed resources and zero inhabitants doesn't seem to be much of a prize for all the effort and cost. And, US government already has people in a state of fear - they've accomplished that through their "terrorism" program and the miss-handling of the economy.
The world governments can't come to agreement on agree on much of anything. Cooperating and pulling off the appearance of a united front in either a false war or a real one seems far fetched.
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Society has been conditioned to accept that any off planet visitations will be hostile, for over 50 years. Guess what would happen if even friendlies arrived in our skies?
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Heartsong
What is the ultimate goal of this false flag or even real attack? Who wins what? How will they know when they've won?
Destroyed resources and zero inhabitants doesn't seem to be much of a prize for all the effort and cost. And, US government already has people in a state of fear - they've accomplished that through their "terrorism" program and the miss-handling of the economy.
The world governments can't come to agreement on agree on much of anything. Cooperating and pulling off the appearance of a united front in either a false war or a real one seems far fetched.
They might stage a project bluebeam type event as a last ditch effort to keep power if the masses awaken and start to demand change or people start to openly revolt and challenge the established order.Another aspect of masses of people waking up is that they begin to lose the fear that has been instilled in them by the system (msm media propaganda etc) if/when this were to happen then a bluebeam event might be tried to put the fear back into them and keep control.
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Ahhh! and thank you for posting! We must always ask ourselves "Who stands to gain from this?" And, usually, it's the globalists and mega-corporations like the one I am employed by. I.E. ****ing bankers. Look at how much legislation was passed after and regarding 9-11, that one isolated event shifted world geo-politics instantly, and here we are, ten years later still laboring under false assumptions and fears. Patriot Act I and II, wiretapping, borders, etc. Who would gain from a false alien invasion?? Hard to say right now but it would be the biggest..."tool for change" mankind has ever faced, it would make so much possible for whatever PTB that the answer, in short, is whoever ORCHESTRATES IT stands to gain, therein lies the speculation. Harley thanks for this thread :)
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Thanks steve_a for posting the YouTube video of Dr Carol Rosin at the 2001 Disclosure Conference.
Carol's testimony is included in full on p.188 of the Disclosure Project Briefing Documents, as well as being alluded to in many other places in this document. You may wish to download this 39 Mb file here.
The Executive Summary page lists all the witnesses - a handy reference for YouTube videos.
You will also find copies of this on Bibliotecapleyades.net.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ex...lfalseflag.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ex...litics_ZCb.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/di...sclosure09.htm
Unfortunately, the first article in this page of links, titled "'ET' False Flag Operation to Begin in August" (2007) by GhostRaven and taken from the ATS forum has been confirmed as a deliberate hoax. As we know, no real event of this nature took place. Yet it still remains in the Bibliotecapleyades archive.
Similar YouTube videos, also worth watching:
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I've not responded yet to this important thread, but I wanted to thank Harley Hawkins for his detailed and highly intelligent presentation.
As far as I'm given to understand, HH got a lot right in his opening post - and this is a subject that we should pay very close attention to through 2011 and 2012.
There may well be a critical and challenging role for the alternative media to head this one off - just as it seems we successfully headed off the Swine Flu / Vaccinations scenario in 2009.
This is a larger mountain to climb, as the public is so ill-informed. There will probably be much more about this in the coming months, including from myself.
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Bill Ryan
(...)There may well be a critical and challenging role for the alternative media to head this one off - just as it seems we successfully headed off the Swine Flu / Vaccinations scenario in 2009.
This is a larger mountain to climb, as the public is so ill-informed. There will probably be much more about this in the coming months, including from myself.
Indeed, especially if we consider that such events do not happen in vacuum.
There is always a conditioning campaign as to maximize effect of one-time event.
There are many avenues, not least of them building general level of insecurity (economic, safety etc.) .. In case of 9/|| that was the bursting of dot-com bubble for example.
Anyway, there are steps to this affair, that must first materialize before "big one" ... and by nullifying the preparatory movements, we have great chance of making the "final" unplausible.
Block the chesspieces so to speak.
Still we must be aware what strategic goals are, as not to be outflanked.
Events are tactical means, let us not miss this distinction.
(Great thread Harley!)
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Let them commit to actions that by design are hard to reverse out of
For instance:
They will use individual testimony which supports there theory , they will use UFO enthusiasts to prove there case,so you guys organise people that say the right thing,the publicity machine at low level will fly down on this sort of testimony ,with little thought.if you say in an irresistible way the very scenario they wish to design.
And when you are heavily involved...
Pull the rug....
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For a while now I've had a feeling that my role in this game, as a so called "truther" or "conspiracy theorist" or whatever it is you might call someone who is paying attention, is to really go all out when/if something like this comes down the pipe, and as the pieces begin falling into place (i.e. the propganda machine starts to roll its printing presses - such as it has with The Event, V, the 10+ alien invasion movies coming out between 2009 - 2011) it is my job - and anyone elses job, to start hinting that there may be something more to this than meets the eye to anyone we know. I don't mean go all out and overwhelm them, but plant the seeds of the idea that there might be a reason why we are seeing so much of this in the media.
If the seeds are planted, when the real "event" plays out, hopefully enough people will snap back into awareness, sprouting conciousness from those seeds of truth - and realize that whatever goes down is not necessarily what it seems.
At this point, or perhaps even slightly before it if the plans are knwon, the "truthers" will need to really be making some noise. On this issue and on the issue of 'the microchip' I've decided that those will be my breaking points, where I will have to stop caring what other people think about my "being crazy" and go all out against these agenda's. Until then silent and targetted resistance (i.e. planting these seeds of truth) is for me, the best and most effective course of action.
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Edit: Not that I particularly care now, most of my friends and family already think I'm nuts ;)
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yea! i think TPTB are egotistically deluded into thinking they can pull this one off but i think there is no way in hell the benevolent ET's are going to let them do this because this is a threat to them.
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That's a reference,were I work!
:rolleyes:
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Allow me to add to this thread a moment.
Suppose we wake up one morning next year in August, turn our television sets on, and see a a news report mirroring something we'd recall from films such as "Independence Day," or "Signs." Large craft perched above major cities, flying about our skies.
And next, let's suppose the reporters and anchors begin foreshadowing these ominous craft as malevolent.
What would you do? What would the people of this planet do?
It seems most important that we do a bit of "soul searching," or meditating before the new year; and reflect that internal change toward to external world in which we operate. Once we understand a bit of who we are, the world around us begins to make a great deal more sense.
Yes, plans are on for an "ET false flag threat," but such a plan requires only one element to be successful; a reactive populace.
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Suppose we wake up one morning next year in August, turn our television sets on, and see a a news report mirroring something we'd recall from films such as "Independence Day," or "Signs." Large craft perched above major cities, flying about our skies.
And next, let's suppose the reporters and anchors begin foreshadowing these ominous craft as malevolent.
I would add:
Then suppose the world leaders held a "State of the World Address" mobilizing humanity to set aside our differences and focus our energies toward a global military/industrial complex the likes of which we have never seen before. Similar to what ol' ronnie reagan alluded to years ago. The whole world would be directed toward thwarting a fake enemy. It would sure turn the economy around. Then imagine trying to explain to your neighbor that it's all an elaborate hoax.
I'm confident that we can avoid this dire scenario by increasing our awareness.
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good thread!
the reasons behind such an event are what in my eyes is more important, and who such an event would benefit.
it has been widely reported that population control or a mass culling is on the cards, this is a recuring theme.
what better than to have an alien enemy do this for you, or maybe a exotic disease of alien descent, non curable and devestating. no finger of blame pointed at TPTB.
the other widely touted theory is the military industrial complex needing a threat to keep rolling.
or maybe a combination of all the theories could be put into place with this, including, a oppressive controlled high tech police state, mass culling, and a chance to rebuild with new clean 'alien' technology and the drastically reduced population.
i cant see it being a minor event of a few ships apearing and a few planes being shot down. this is too big an opertunity to bring other planned events into play.
however, would this truely be a 'fake alien invasion'?
if we have been in contact with and controlled by aliens/interdimensional beings for all of our history, and even created by aliens, watched over and pushed into cirtain directions both technologically and genetically then could/would such an event actually take place without the say so or the assistance of aliens?
could the only FAKE part be the actual invasion, as they are already here, and have always been here, have thier claws well and truely in every aspect of our world, and no 'invasion' as such is actually needed?
there seems to be various races here in one form or the other, and it seems to be that there are less than sincere groups amongst those which have possibly dark motives, this invasion senario would benefit them immensly as well as TPTB that are part of the whole bigger picture.
If you take all of the stated wants and possible aims of these groups, the agenda that we are all aware of in varying amounts, this is the one event that could bring everything into play, and aliens wolud be very very much behind this, if they are not, and this happens without aliens, then aliens are not here, and that is pretty unlikely imho.
if this would be used for such a devastating change and mass population decrease, will the rebuilt world be a beneficial one, with free energy and a new more spiritual society - will 'friendly ETs' swoop in and save the day right at the last dying moment?
but one thing is cirtain, be it fake or real, we have to behave in the same way, if it is a big change, a massive destructive event, then it will be those which have prepared that will survive, the free thinkers, the strong and educated, the non-sheeple, exactly the ones that if you were rebuilding the world in a new and more benficial way, you would want in it.
i dont know, i have no insider knowledge, been trained as a supersoldier, or been channeling zetas, and its all pure speculation on my part, but common sense tells me if you do have 'agenda' and your gonna stage an alien invasion, produce an annonymous enemy, your gonna take advantage of it, and not just put on a pretty show for the cameras.
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i think what im trying to put across is, do we need to change as a planet to take our next step into a galactic/universal community, is this time rapidly approaching?
does this change have to mean that we need to face some really difficult and pressing times, can we be alowed to move into this planetary environment with so many negative traits as a race?
if the soul is eternal, and if death is only a state of change, then would the culling of billions, billions of souls taking a necessary step in their evoltion, in the higher picture, be something that would actually be acceptable to a race of beings with a complete veiw of the bigger picture so to speak. could this actually be what will be used to take the planet into this new stage?
maybe the huge number of souls that are her on the planet right now are here for this mass movement of spirit that could be planned?
alan watts once said that when you look at the human organsim up close under a microscope cells will be attacking cells, the scene is that of destruction and disharmony, but when you remove the microscope and look at the human, the body is in harmony.
maybe within the bigger picture this could be an acceptable tool for all of our developements, be that spiritual movement into another form or plain, or the continuation of the planet and our race in this experience.
maybe TPTB, if they are influenced/controlled by ETs or actually are ETs have a far bigger picture in mind that we cant see because we are overwhelmed by the fear of our own mortality, and too rooted in our current experience.
or am i just getting all apocolyptic and full of xmas cheer?
maybe im resigning myself to doom!
maybe i need some vitimin d...
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ponda
What you say Harley is certainly one possible scenario.
Another one might be that they come to save us from ourselves.War,disease,economic or environmental collapse etc.Just when things are about to get bad 'they' show up just in time to 'save us'.
Another one might be that they show up in 'peace' and offer to 'enlighten' us on what's out there etc.
Are we that conditioned to believe that everything is "NWO this, TPTB that" to a point where if GENUINE assistance were offered, we'd be skeptical and dismissive of it?
I think that's a dangerous path to walk as well. There are definitely benevolent ETs out there and if they truly wanted to help us, they could. They're not supposed to (free will) but I don't think much is stopping them from it (well, perhaps dimensional/frequency issues, space command, etc).
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Hi Etherios,
Asking this kindly and with all due respect: Did you read the full text of the article? Or are you just responding to the title of the thread? I ask this because all of your comments and questions here are covered (quite plainly) in the article, and the purpose of the article was also made quite clear.
Thanks! :)
Indeed it was.
You laid out several scenarios, including a "Real" and "False-Flag" versions of what could happen.
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I've not responded yet to this important thread, but I wanted to thank Harley Hawkins for his detailed and highly intelligent presentation.
As far as I'm given to understand, HH got a lot right in his opening post - and this is a subject that we should pay very close attention to through 2011 and 2012.
There may well be a critical and challenging role for the alternative media to head this one off - just as it seems we successfully headed off the Swine Flu / Vaccinations scenario in 2009.
This is a larger mountain to climb, as the public is so ill-informed. There will probably be much more about this in the coming months, including from myself.
I agree Bill and I just want to add that even though some feel that the History Channel cannot be trusted, it has sort-of made some of my relatives question 2012 and question the meaning of their existence and whether or not there's more to life than what we're being told. I think this is a good thing and I think that in order to de-condition people to the idea of hostile ETs, they must have access to information that challenges their very core.
If these folks can be de-conditioned, then it will tie into HH's post because these people will not stand for the false-flag IF they know the true nature of benevolent ETs.
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Are we that conditioned to believe that everything is "NWO this, TPTB that" to a point where if GENUINE assistance were offered, we'd be skeptical and dismissive of it?
I think that's a dangerous path to walk as well. There are definitely benevolent ETs out there and if they truly wanted to help us, they could. They're not supposed to (free will) but I don't think much is stopping them from it (well, perhaps dimensional/frequency issues, space command, etc).
Just possible scenarios Humble,nothing more.If something like that happens then look at it with an open mind would be my advice.How would one be able to prove hostile or benevolent intent anyway ?
Say the bad guys show up.Are they going to appear as bad guys and then ask us if we want their help....probably not because everyone will assume that they are bad guys and are a threat to us.There are probably protocols in place that have to be followed.Just a guess.
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In that case, they could be like the ETs in V (offer help and then slowly reveal their hidden agenda over time) or they could some shooting at us.
We'd have to follow our hearts on this one.