Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time
Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.
In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.
More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.
"This conclusion is very surprising," says Thaler, "and I fought against it as hard as I could."
More at the link.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/22...-same-time.htm
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Blavatski's 'the secret doctrine' states that humanity has been around 16 million years. Stone habitations, such as the prehistoric underground towns showing in anatolia have been geologically dated to several million years. I would be a little concerned that the time scale that the researchers are using in this analysis is 'off'.
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That's very interesting — and also a little confusing!
I assume (of course) it's referring to currently existing species (maybe ignoring species that relatively recently became extinct, like mastodons and saber-tooth tigers?). So presumably this isn't a creationist kind of thing.
And it's also unclear whether it's referring to mammals only, as opposed to ALL animals, which include birds, reptiles, insects and fish. (Remember the coelacanth? But then, maybe that's part of the 10%. :) ) Many species of reptiles and insects have been with us for a VERY Long time indeed.
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A likely possibility is the occurrence of a sudden event that caused large-scale environmental trauma and wiped out majority of the Earth's species.
Hmm, THE big flood, or A big flood followed by a repopulation of the earth?
We now assume that the biblical flood may have happened at the end of the last ice age about 11,000 years ago. But 200k years could still be in the subconscious or genetic memory of humankind.
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That's very interesting — and also a little confusing!
I assume (of course) it's referring to
currently existing species (maybe ignoring species that relatively recently became extinct, like mastodons and saber-tooth tigers?). So presumably this isn't a creationist kind of thing.
And it's also unclear whether it's referring to mammals only, as opposed to ALL animals, which include birds, reptiles, insects and fish. (Remember the
coelacanth? But then, maybe that's part of the 10%. :) ) Many species of reptiles and insects have been with us for a VERY Long time indeed.
I find it interesting how much information can be gleaned from something that is a dynamic function by considering its static form. The DNA molecule as understood today is but the tip of the iceberg. For that reason I think it is premature to jump to conclusions when using that little bit of knowledge and extending it in a predictive fashion thousands of years into the past. The margin of error, because of the small base of upfront knowledge is logarithmic. Any returned data would have to be considered tentative and inconclusive at this point.
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The fact the term "junk DNA" still exists and is used "officially" makes me doubt all studies related to DNA... just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's junk... we are arrogantly ignorant.
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I would offer a suggestion that the flood came right before the ice age, in fact would be part of the cause. As current events are occurring right now we will see a great deal of rain fall because of the volcanic emissions. This rain fall, the ash clouds changing temperatures, ocean temperatures like our atmosphere and experiencing hot and cold fronts hitting each other with more force, I wonder if a volcanic and earthquake event created flooding and then an ice age. I believe we are about to see this event happen (begin to happen) within the next two years. Creation and evolution of all life is my favorite subject to watch other people talk about. (I do not have enough information to put out solid suggestions) My boyfriend is fond of telling me there is a little truth in every lie. If you change this a little to be a little truth in every new idea, there seems to be an interesting pattern emerging. What if, like a virus, like a bacteria, we are all from all manner of genetic life beginnings. As time moved on and we lived generations this marker got more buried. What if, we are all manner of beginnings, from foul to fish? I hope I am alive when we come closer to the answers.
Very interesting hypothesis!
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I am confused on something here.
I understand the mitochondria, but I was unaware of the limited number of gene strands that it was limited to.
The coi gene to create dna barcodes, is which one of the 37?
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So after reading the original paper linked from the article: https://phe.rockefeller.edu/news/wp-...al-reduced.pdf
it seems that the conclusion of the paper is not so far fetched.
Here is an excerpt from the summary from the paper...
"...Namely that
the extant population, no matter what its current size or similarity to fossils of any age,
has expanded from mitochondrial uniformity within the past 200,000 years."...
The 200,000 year time comes from the last major glaciation period as can be seen in the timeline: https://divediscover.whoi.edu/ice-ages/
Most people are aware of the very last mini ice age that started about 20 thousand or so years ago and ended about 11 thousand or so years ago, however there have been many ice ages and at least 5 very major ones.
In any case, since most specimens from most species would die off during such times, it makes sense that the ones which survive such periods would have the appropriate mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA.
Oh and yes, this does reflect the whole of the animal kingdom (mammals, birds, fish, insects, etc..) according to the paper.
That's my 2 cent's worth anyway.
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This makes sense with the Summerian creation "myth," as we were by far not the only experiment done by the Annunaki... plus there's mention of them altering animal DNA to feed, clothe or even entertain... themselves and the created slave race!
Namaste~
And thank you for sharing... guess my issue here is only with the legitimacy of these claims (scientific studies).
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Reading this makes me wonder what archaeologists would think of it.
I remember reading recent articles stating that human-like fossils have been found that are 500,000+ years old.
What of other fossils that are millions of years old?
Does this imply that carbon-dating methods are not accurate (I have read before that carbon dating is not 100% accurate as was once thought)?
Clearly, the article does not define the group of animals being referred to and leaves a lot to imagination and interpretation.
Very confusing indeed.
Perhaps the authors will clarify with more detail soon.
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I would offer a suggestion that the flood came right before the ice age, in fact would be part of the cause....
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I am not sure which is which in this "Chicken & Egg" proposition, but there may indeed be an interrelation/connection between the two as seen during the Younger Dryas:
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Conclusion:
While researching the topic of the frozen mammoths, I discovered an unexpected anomaly. The Younger Dryas was a 1400-year global cooling period (see red curve on the right) which led to an
increase in the size of ice sheets.
However during the same time (13000BP-11500BP)
sea levels rose by about
20 meters (from -70 to -50m).
Cooling usually means an increase in ice sheet size that leads to a drop in sea level (the sea water being transformed into ice). Yet during the Younger Dryas, the exact opposite happened.
Where did all this extra water come from?
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Of course, a relative sea level rise could also equally mean a relative land sinking of the location taken as a reference point... but, then... what about a little bit of both?
On the other hand, the Colorado Plateau used to be below sea level... where did all the water go?
Anyways... :focus:
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... Many species of reptiles and insects have been with us for a VERY Long time indeed.
Interesting you say it like that ... ;) Sounds more literal than you intended, or, maybe a subconscious/genetic memory sneaking its way into expression?
The way humans express things sometimes that we take as a matter of route sometimes fascinates me when you look at the words literally, and wonder, "why do we say things like that?"
Anyway, just a small fascination, probably I'm the only one humoured by it. :)
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... Many species of reptiles and insects have been with us for a VERY Long time indeed.
Interesting you say it like that ... ;) Sounds more literal than you intended, or, maybe a subconscious/genetic memory sneaking its way into expression?
Ha! Yes, that was quite unconscious. Maybe I'm just strongly identifying with Gaia here. :)
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There are a lot of bits and pieces of the past which form a rather curious narrative once the diligent (and imaginative) researcher does their homework... but this is not the sort of thing that can be easily presented on as with such things it can be difficult to accumulate evidence. Though it may well be possible to follow your own hunch, as our reality is a study of the nature of deeply embedded memories as much as anything else (or so the data suggests).
In other words.. I'm sure a few of you have heard the argument about documents like the Bible being like a very loose and liberal allegory on events that did actually happen... or how traditions, calendar events etc have deeper origins that get repurposed, this is all for the same reason, to deal with the fact that there is some part of us that can remember so far back, to previous lifetimes, sometimes many many lifetimes ago. We are supposed to be having our memories totally wiped clean but it does not work 100%.
And now combine this with the other evidence. It's not to say that these things have definitely happened. It is however to say that surprising ideas about our distant, distant past are in all likelihood as plausible as the types of mundane ideas that tend to make it into the status quo "accepted history". The RV data I've worked with absolutely confirms to me that our history is quite surprising indeed, but that does not mean I have a presentable proof on that topic. Anyhow, some bits that might make for possible surprising elements of our distant past:
- Noah's Ark could be allegory for introducing animal species onto the planet artificially, in sets of two
- The asteroid belt as a planet where something so intense went down that the planet had to be completely destroyed
- Oil deposits are actually decomposed plastic from a very long time ago (this is the true cycle of plastic, though if you go far enough back, it too may have been artificially introduced to the planet, probably in oil form)
Put the pieces together and the narrative becomes clear, things are occurring in the universe across timespans that are so long, we struggle to even conceive of the possibility. Miswiring our distant memories to things has the effect of neutralizing the risk of our remembering, and as long as the cycle of forgetting is good enough, we cannot apply ourselves well enough across lifespans to do much of anything about the situation.
Anyhow things are going to get a whole lot more surprising (in a good way) in the relatively near future. A new thread I'm preparing the OP for will present some RV data related to that topic, and should be able to explain much more on that topic, which I was struggling to find the right way to present for the past few months but finally worked out a key data point that should make it much easier to piece everything together.
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Cooling usually means an increase in ice sheet size that leads to a drop in sea level (the sea water being transformed into ice). Yet during the Younger Dryas, the exact opposite happened.
Where did all this extra water come from?
It also depends on if the ice was on land or swimming on water. Put ice cubes in a glass of water and see what happens to the water level. Of course it gets trickier when the ice is created from the water it is swimming in. But a transfer of ice from land to water could have lead to the increase in sea level, given that the ice sheets on land could be miles thick.
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that study make me think of the possibility of a major 'gene reset' brought on by an electric space impact on the planet, such as solar flare or similar.
there is an interresting study form the 80s where scientists in swizerland managed to reset genes in various plants and animals via the application of high voltage fields to seeds and eggs. the newly hatched trout for example looked like their fossil ancestors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
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there is an interresting study form the 80s where scientists in swizerland managed to reset genes in various plants and animals via the application of high voltage fields to seeds and eggs. the newly hatched trout for example looked like their fossil ancestors.
This only changed the gene expression of the treated plants. The DNA didn't change. Descendants of the treated plants that were not treated themselves did look like their modern counterparts.
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there is an interresting study form the 80s where scientists in swizerland managed to reset genes in various plants and animals via the application of high voltage fields to seeds and eggs. the newly hatched trout for example looked like their fossil ancestors.
This only changed the gene expression of the treated plants. The DNA didn't change. Descendants of the treated plants that were not treated themselves did look like their modern counterparts.
good point Builder, that makes me think that maybe the electro magnetic field change was permanent..
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Here is a related article that just appeared on the Fox News web site today:
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/did-...e-adam-and-eve
The first thing it made me think of was the genetic manipulation that Charles (Atticus) said happened about 200,000 years ago. Maybe the Adam and Eve of 90% of current species were made through genetic manipulation of existing species back then.
