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Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.
Hi friends
To put it into context.
There are two kinds of ego.
One as defined by the Medical/ Psychiatric profession.
is Healthy self esteem.
It is good to take pride in the way we do things.
When one is comfortable with oneself and what one does then fear decrease and it is easy to be in this world with all its trials and tribulations at that point there is an over lap into the second definition of ego, the spiritual one.
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended.
There were some very good contributions to this thread on Avalon and I hope that the same will apply here.
Celine has said that the complete thread from Avalon will be reposted here but there are technical problems in doing this at the moment, hopefully these will be resolved.
Time being fresh insights are very welcome.
Chris
Namaste.
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For now I will post this...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/atta...tachmentid=518
Coming from this book:
http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/c...ence-p307.html
I will give a "translation" later as I'm very short in time now....
THX for starting this thread Greybeard, very interesting material.......
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Greybeard,
Good to see you. I'm glad you are here.
Can't the original thread from PA1 be brought over here, so that you don't have to start again? And have you heard from 14chakras?
Love,
Kriya
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Hey Greybear, lovely to see you
My understanding is that EGO stands for epigenetic overlay which is gone out of control, it is part of our anatomy so we can not get rid of it we just have to heal it. Healing the EGO means re-aligning ourselves with the path of joy which is aligning with the natural laws that rule the cosmos. The laws of the cosmos are related to the efficient use of energy because expanssion (sometimes called ascension) can not happen if we do not have enough energy in the system
Lets take the choice of being joyfull or unhappy, when we are unhappy we spend energy which does not return to us. Instead when we are in joy the energy that we are experiencing expands and give us an energy profit.
All that is related to the missuse of the EGO is related to the path of de-evolution or opposite expression to Source
True to say that source gave us free will but this is not a "free for all" cosmos, which means that our decisions have consecuences in energy terms and at the end mean the difference between eternal life and finite life
Source prefers us to live in joy but it is our choice to decide what we want to do. Whether we chose the path of joy or the path of opposite expression, source loves all parts of itself equally
When we are overly identified with our EGO we lose our conection with source and we fall in a state of fear that propel us to find "safety" by opressing those that we perceive as a threat to us
In reality, that is only a EGO illussion for everyone and everything in the cosmos is made of source essence and hence, everything even those that choose the path of de-evolution can not escape source because they are inside source
Living in harmony with the laws of the cosmos and re-training our EGO to trust source and the process align us with probabilities that are more in co-resonance with the "ideal" life that most of us have want to experience and are called heaven on earth or paradise on earth
One of the most difficult EGO patterns to contend with is "the blame game". When we are in EGO conscioussness and blame others for what is happening in our lives we disempower ourselved totally, we give all our power to that we are blaming....this is why the illuminati are winning this reality game because we are blaming them for all the ills in our lives, rather that say ok "why am I creating this and how can I stop thinking this way". Re-training our EGO and self empowering ourselves is not difficult but it takes mindfullness, patience and perseverance
This is my pespective
Thank you for providing a space in which we can express our personal perspective on the matter
Love :grouphug:
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Greybeard,
Good to see you. I'm glad you are here.
Can't the original thread from PA1 be brought over here, so that you don't have to start again? And have you heard from 14chakras?
Love,
Kriya
Hi Kriya
I have asked for the original thread to be transported as there was a lot of good material posted there by quite a few contributors.
Celine has said yes but there are tec probs at the moment so rather than wait, I thought it best to resume.
!4 Chakras and I have had some email contact.
Love
Chris
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Re: Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.
Hi Stardustaquarian
Thank you for your post.
What you say is so and will take you so far but it will not lead to enlightenment.
However it is very helpful to tame the ego first and certainly life will be a lot easier when the ego is docile.
Only very high spiritual energy will assist the complete transcendence of ego.
That comes through aligning with Gods will.
The ego is not the enemy as such it is just an obstacle to attaining higher consciousness.
Its a bit like launching a space rocket in that the first stage drops away when it has served its purpose.
The ego was necessary to get the human race to this stage of evolution from a materialistic point of view, however it is a
a hindererence to evolving further spiritually and therefore fulfilling our true potential.
Chris
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Thanks Swami
Sat Chit Anand
May we all experience this soon.
I learned a lot from Yogananda books.
Chris
Namaste.
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Hey Chris,
Good to see that you re-started your thread here. I believe it's a bit technically inconvenient to have the old thread transferred on this new forum anytime soon.
I hope you'll not forget to continue contributing at the oasis also...;)
In case anybody else is wondering and want to participate, here is the link at the oasis thread:
http://www.myspiritualoasis.org/show...w-to-transcend
Best regards to all,
Namaste
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To even be able to exist within this universe from a four dimensional perspective as a being or as anything else duality is needed. Without duality no contrast can exist. Contrast gives us the full spectrum of possibilities to explore this universe from our perspective of linearity.
As long as we limit our self to a four dimensional perspective of reality, captured is what we will be within this universe.
When we stop our act of thinking that we are our though, expansion beyond a four dimensional reality becomes possible. Actually we are already there, and yet our behavior belief system tells us something else. A reality beyond the four dimensional reality contains an eternal perspective on the linear prison.
Since thinking is a linear way of observing what really is going on thinking will be the moment 22 that stops you from expanding beyond this material reality.
The smarter you are, if smart is measured in IQ, the longer this process will take. IQ is based on thinking. IQ is based on a time/space reality. IQ has very little to do with thinking outside the box. IQ exist and is trapped within our time stamped left brain way of presenting our reality. We even call this way of thinking for a reality based on logic, hmm.
When we realize the timeless capacity that our right brain contains and is able to intermingle these two parts of our self then things that we used to “think” with our left brain no longer will be imprisoning us. This expansion will help us all to access the “being” aspect of who we also are. It is this aspect that will help us to expand out of a time/space reality into a quantum eternal view of how beautiful eternity actually can be and actually already is. A more expanded way of observing the reality releases the tensions that a time/space reality grips us with.
Once freed from this tension, a more expanded way of observing the reality from “outside the box” will help us to reclaiming our universe as the peaceful place that it actually is. This will happened when we all, from a more expanded understanding of how the reality connect the dots appear within us.
We will then realize that contrast no longer is needed as an egoistic tool to separate this universe. We will then realize that contrast when observed from a quantum state beyond time and space actually can heal our self within the box in the blink of an eye. This will then create not only peace on earth but peace in the entire 4 D universe for it then no longer is separated from the life outside the box.
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To even be able to exist within this universe from a four dimensional perspective as a being or as anything else duality is needed. Without duality no contrast can exist. Contrast gives us the full spectrum of possibilities to explore this universe from our perspective of linearity.
As long as we limit our self to a four dimensional perspective of reality, captured is what we will be within this universe.
When we stop our act of thinking that we are our though, expansion beyond a four dimensional reality becomes possible. Actually we are already there, and yet our behavior belief system tells us something else. A reality beyond the four dimensional reality contains an eternal perspective on the linear prison.
Since thinking is a linear way of observing what really is going on thinking will be the moment 22 that stops you from expanding beyond this material reality.
The smarter you are, if smart is measured in IQ, the longer this process will take. IQ is based on thinking. IQ is based on a time/space reality. IQ has very little to do with thinking outside the box. IQ exist and is trapped within our time stamped left brain way of presenting our reality. We even call this way of thinking for a reality based on logic, hmm.
When we realize the timeless capacity that our right brain contains and is able to intermingle these two parts of our self then things that we used to “think” with our left brain no longer will be imprisoning us. This expansion will help us all to access the “being” aspect of who we also are. It is this aspect that will help us to expand out of a time/space reality into a quantum eternal view of how beautiful eternity actually can be and actually already is. A more expanded way of observing the reality releases the tensions that a time/space reality grips us with.
Once freed from this tension, a more expanded way of observing the reality from “outside the box” will help us to reclaiming our universe as the peaceful place that it actually is. This will happened when we all, from a more expanded understanding of how the reality connect the dots appear within us.
We will then realize that contrast no longer is needed as an egoistic tool to separate this universe. We will then realize that contrast when observed from a quantum state beyond time and space actually can heal our self within the box in the blink of an eye. This will then create not only peace on earth but peace in the entire 4 D universe for it then no longer is separated from the life outside the box.
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Hi allhealing
I can see your point of view.
The mystics have always talked from a non-dualistic state so it is
possible to live in this 3d world any yet not need duality.
Dr Hawkins explained it best for me.
Darkness is not the opposite of light, there is a sliding scale from extremely bright light all the way down to dim light then absence of light.
Water H2O goes through various classes of existence -- steam at very high temperature--liquid--ice ant a lower temperature a sliding scale.
Its still H2O regardles.
With God its total Love---down to absence of love.
Evil is not the opposite of God but the denial of God -- denial of Love.
The mystic is in a no-mind state, there is no thought process just pure awareness. They just know that which supports life so there is no need for duality.
In a no mind state there is no desire so no need to create. Creation happens of its own potential
Nothing is causing anything else to happen
Causality is a an illusion of the ego
chris
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Hey Chris,
Good to see that you re-started your thread here. I believe it's a bit technically inconvenient to have the old thread transferred on this new forum anytime soon.
I hope you'll not forget to continue contributing at the oasis also...;)
In case anybody else is wondering and want to participate, here is the link at the oasis thread:
http://www.myspiritualoasis.org/show...w-to-transcend
Best regards to all,
Namaste
Hi No worries my friend .
As though I would desert a good place to be.
Oasis is my home too.
Thanks for starting it Dan, much appreciated.
Chris
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Hi Chris
I didnt follow your thread on AV1... but looking in here. I can offer no help in 4D or 33D, i dont understand it.
I struggled a long time with the understanding and concept of ego. I used to want to 'lose' my ego, or 'defeat' it... until I began to realise that without ego I couldnt live. I now see ego, in simplistic terms, as the body. The body needs support in terms of food and water..but more than this also.
I see ego as separate from the mind. Ego is basic in its desires and needs, it is not intellectual or spiritual, it seeks to perpetuate what it is. It will therefore try to control the mind into giving it what it needs to sustain itself. When the 'mind' or 'soul' leaves the body then ego sees that as the end of itself...so in astral traveling one of the first lessons is to reassure the ego that its ok for the 'mind' (spirit, soul whatever label you want).. to leave the body, in fact, its more than ok. the mind leaving the body will in fact make the ego (body) a better place/thing after the mind has gone out and learned things that will be of benefit to the ego.
One useful trick is to recognise that .. 'this body is tired' or 'this body is hungry', to see the body as ego and to see the mind as separate from that body/ego.
so i like the title of the thread, to transcend ego is not to destroy a vital part of ourselves, as we are now in this incarnation of what we are NOW.. we are who we are and chose to be here for a reason.
Ego gives us direction and purpose on some levels and is a vital part of what we are at this present time.
thats my 2 cents anyway.... i dont have much more to add within my present awareness but will look in for other views
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A challenge for me, is the word co-creator.
co implies duality as in co-worker.
The ego loves to think it is creating.
We are unique and I believe that God creates through that uniqueness the great works of art and all that is good, yet we are not the doer as such.
We can improve upon our uniqueness and in this be better servants of Divine will, that is our potential to do so, but without God there is no individual creation.
I have never, any where read a Sage use the word co-creator, nor imply it.
all devotion is always to God.
The Course in Miracles says that specialness is the last resort of the ego.
Lucifer left heaven because he wanted to be special and probably though he could create better than God, so what have got on earth? but fallen consciousness creating havoc.
Not saying Im right but intuitively feel that this is so.
Chris
Namaste.
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[QUOTE=greybeard;7810]Hi Stardustaquarian
Thank you for your post.
What you say is so and will take you so far but it will not lead to enlightenment.
However it is very helpful to tame the ego first and certainly life will be a lot easier when the ego is docile.
Only very high spiritual energy will assist the complete transcendence of ego.
That comes through aligning with Gods will.
The ego is not the enemy as such it is just an obstacle to attaining higher consciousness.
Its a bit like launching a space rocket in that the first stage drops away when it has served its purpose.
The ego was necessary to get the human race to this stage of evolution from a materialistic point of view, however it is a
a hindererence to evolving further spiritually and therefore fulfilling our true potential.
Chris[/QUOTE
I agree that you need using high spiritual energy which is why the Maharic Seal and all the flame body activations help. Not only they reset ones template to Sources aligment they also heal other environmental blockages. Working with 12 dimensional energies and beyond have been an incredible experience form me. It really moves you forward. But the EGO is part of ourselves and it needs healing otherwise we will leaving behind a part of ourselves that will force us to come back and back again into incarnation
The EGO originally was not intended as our enemy, it was our self presevation program to protect us against environmental dangers but all the cataclisms that happen here affected the EGO program which is the reason it needs healing
Fundamentally I think we agree in the same main points
Love
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Hi Vidya
I suggest that Higher self is actually looking after one.
Your are right that the human race would not have survived this far without ego for the reasons you have mentioned.
However that intellect that created many good snd useful things also created many that are not life supporting.
We are heading into a time of transition of consciousness in fact a new breed of human you could call Homo spiritus, that is a dfinition used by Dr David Hawkins in several books of his.
the publisher is
http://www.veritaspub.com/
well worth a quick vist to the web page.\
thanks for your contribution.
Chris
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Hi Star
we are mainly in agreement and were aren't it matters not.
Thanks for posting
Chris
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Hey mr. grey just stopping by to say hi. Maybe you'll make a video with you playing a few tunes on your guitar. I know this has nothing to do with the ego, but hey I like to hear you play a few tunes after all it is a part of the beauty that lies within your heart .;)
Have a great day to everyone !!!:thumb::wub:
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Hi Vidya
I suggest that Higher self is actually looking after one.
We are heading into a time of transition of consciousness in fact a new breed of human you could call Homo spiritus, that is a dfinition used by Dr David Hawkins in several books of his.
the publisher is
Chris
I quite agree about the higher self, i never mentioned that in my post.. isnt that separate from ego and mind? i always thought so. And we have many guides besides our higher selves, that much i know.
consciousness is always evolving. every day is a new day. no need to rename species yet i dont think :)
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Good to see this thread over here. I very much enjoyed the original. Thanks Greybeard.
“It is the nature of the ego to take, and the nature of the spirit to share.”
Nmaste, Jia.
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The ego is a necessary part of human experience. Without it, we would have no point of reference in physical reality, no means of locating ourselves in space-time. It is a vital element that keeps us in the body, and allows us to participate in this unique experience of density.
I do believe that transcending the ego is key, not to escape it, but temporarily loosen it's hold on our consciousness so that we may experience ourselves in full manifestation, and put the ego in its proper place so that it works for us instead of us working for it.
My preferred methods of achieving such a state of ego-loss is meditation, pranayama, fasting, and psychedelic compounds. Sometimes individually, and sometimes different combinations of them all.
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I quite agree about the higher self, i never mentioned that in my post.. isnt that separate from ego and mind? i always thought so. And we have many guides besides our higher selves, that much i know.
consciousness is always evolving. every day is a new day. no need to rename species yet i dont think :)
Hi Vidya
Yes Higher self is mindless, The Self remains after death of the ego, mind, does not. Buddhists call this no-mind
Self is totally aware without the need for mind. Time is not necessary either and that is beyond my understanding.
No doubt there are Guardian Angels, and Guides.
thanks for posting here.
Chris
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Hi Solphios
Depens how far you want to go and what you mean by ego.
Enlightenment is without doubt an egoless state as testified by sages.
Taming ego is a massive step forward and well worthwhile.
Higher Self actually does much which the ego likes to claim authorship of.
That still quiet voice that remind you of something you forgut is Higher, noisy accusing is ego.
With me its surrender, gratitude, mantra and meditation.
What is also very helpful is to sit on a seat in the park and watch nature, easiest is ducks, just watch without nming or comment, that is hard at first but eventually you can be enthralled sitting there in silence without a though in the head.
Thanks for your comments
Chis
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Lucid Jia
Good to see this thread over here. I very much enjoyed the original. Thanks Greybeard.
“It is the nature of the ego to take, and the nature of the spirit to share.”
Nmaste, Jia.
Thanks for your kind comment my Lucid friend.
May we share in spirit
Ch
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My view of the ego in this universe is that the ego is not me but separated from me. I am me and that is all that I am. The ego is according to me a energy that always is some or alot out of balance. The I am as a reference point in this universe is always in balance and therefore also in balance with my spirit that has the ability to reach out beyond this universe. It is when I in my body attract unbalanced energy and wow this together in my physical body that a very confusing energy arrives in my body energy system.
When I then hold the I am energy in my body and all of a sudden also have a unaligned egobased energy arriving in my thinking field, it is then that confusion arrives. All of a sudden what was one very balance energy no long is.
Where does this ego energy arise from? How is it created? What does it feed of? And why is it so hard to even understand that the I am and the ego actually does not match?
This is of course the deepend understanding that starts to become more prescent within a person when this subject lands in a persons conscious mind.
To internmingle the I am and the ego of course creates a very energy intensive soup called life. This is one way of living but this is not the only way of living. How does one live a life separated from an unbalanced and always out of alignment energy called ego?
What comes to your mind around these question, feel free to develop my question.
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Hi Solphios
Depens how far you want to go and what you mean by ego.
Enlightenment is without doubt an egoless state as testified by sages.
Taming ego is a massive step forward and well worthwhile.
Higher Self actually does much which the ego likes to claim authorship of.
That still quiet voice that remind you of something you forgut is Higher, noisy accusing is ego.
With me its surrender, gratitude, mantra and meditation.
What is also very helpful is to sit on a seat in the park and watch nature, easiest is ducks, just watch without nming or comment, that is hard at first but eventually you can be enthralled sitting there in silence without a though in the head.
Thanks for your comments
Chis
I think we are in full agreement here. Your expression seems to have more of an Eastern flavor, while mine is coming from a Hermetic background. Different tastes, yet one and the same!
I quite enjoy hearing different takes on such things from people with varying backgrounds, worldviews, philosophies and experience. Sometimes drastically different approaches, yet often the same results.
Thanks mate.
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I think we are in full agreement here. Your expression seems to have more of an Eastern flavor, while mine is coming from a Hermetic background. Different tastes, yet one and the same!
I quite enjoy hearing different takes on such things from people with varying backgrounds, worldviews, philosophies and experience. Sometimes drastically different approaches, yet often the same results.
Thanks mate.
Yes Solpilos
I think it is good to have the eastern and western, modern and ancient, input as a cross check
Its all the same really just different ways of approaching it.
Eckhart Toll in "The Power of Now" likens part of the ego as a "painbody" it attracts drama, it pushes peoples butons to get dramatic energy responses
Its like it feeds on the energy of the outburst of others.
Thanks for your contributions that how we learn and grow together.
Chris
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One of the most helpful things I learned is.
"I don't have to be right"
There is tremendous freedom in this.
I can just be.
I dont have to take up a position on anything.
Of course I have opinions and preferences but nothing is set in concrete.
I don't actually mind what happens.
From past experience I have seen that when I get my own way (ego) it can be disastrous.
In alignment things just happen for the best effortlessly.
Chris
Namaste
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Confrontations over very little seem to be appearing elsewhere in the forum. Avalon 1 challenges seem to be recreating themselves here.
The ego loves to be right.
The moment a position is taken up an equal amount of energy will be applied from an apposing point of view, thats the law of physics.
Virtually any point of view will attract an adverse reaction.
Its possible to be neutral without being passive. However the highest truth represented by compassion requires action to occur.
Jesus was certainly not inactive but never claimed that he was doing anything and thats the paradox.
"I of my self do nothing it is the Father within."
Thats an ego-less statement, filled with humility.
"The Father and I are One" is perhaps a paradox yet true.
Will we ever learn these truths subjectively for ourselves?
I believe the answer is yes.
I believe man kind has turned a corner.
We are evolving rapidly.
Chris
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One of the most helpful things I learned is.
"I don't have to be right"
There is tremendous freedom in this.
I can just be.
I dont have to take up a position on anything.
Of course I have opinions and preferences but nothing is set in concrete.
I don't actually mind what happens.
From past experience I have seen that when I get my own way (ego) it can be disastrous.
In alignment things just happen for the best effortlessly.
Chris
Namaste
these are very wise words...i like them and thank you for them
really enjoy reading this thread
peace always
mike
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Thanks for your kind words Mike
Chris
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I do not presume to be a psychologist or one who has studied the facets of Ego in the human biology but I did cross fascinating information in Ashayana's Vol 2 Voyagers book. The origin of Ego occurred around 9540 BC when a mutation in the third DNA strand manifested a division within the third chakra and mental body level of the bio-energetic field, emerging as a new type of consciousness. ( excerpted pg 79) There were base tones and higher overtones of the Third DNA strand in the identity. The Higher became the Higher Self. The lower, the Ego. The Ego developed an exaggerated sense of dualistic perception locked into the five sensory perception. ( excerpted pg 79)
Back story: a Frequency Fence was created to protect the Sphere of Amenti from destroying the Earth if entered prematurely - The Sphere allows souls to transcend to higher dimensions and get off the reincarnation wheel - complex but compelling reading.
During that time, the human population was placed under quarantine. Through this Fence the Ego was cut off from a conscious relationship with its personal morphogenetic field and from the morphogenetic fields of its race and the planet. ( this is where the Ego felt the isolation and separateness) This is where the human consciousness became locked within the illusion of matter and . . . .losing touch with the Source within and behind all things . . . ( excerpted pg 80)
As long as the Frequency Fence was operational, the Ego could not translate higher dimensional data into conscious awareness nor could it translate the comprehension of the Higher Self mind. ( excerpted pg 80)
What the Higher Mind did was create Intuition, thereby communicating data to the conscious awareness via feelings.
When the Third strand DNA is completely assembled, the Higher Self aspect of identity will merge with the EGO and the mental awareness will comprehend itself as being a multidimensional identity. The first step in integrating the Ego into this multidimensional identity is to open the lines of conscious communication between Ego and Higher Self. ( excerpted pg 81 )
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My take on the ego, Greybeard, and it’s very simple, because I really like simple, is that it’s a false sense an illusion of ourselves and who we are and the world given to us through our 5 senses via the environment. It is located in our primitive brain and is part of the survival instinct.
Tuning in to the more evolved, frontal brain can shift our attention from this primitive state and expand our beingness /consciousness.
And apparently, one way to do this (apart from meditation) is by popping the amygdala. I’m thinking that by doing this often it rewires, or reconnects or stimulates this part of our brain connecting us to a higher state of consciousness.
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There are those that watch it happen, those who make it happen and those who are unaware of anything happening.
Now I tend to read only books by those who are in the state of enlightenment because thats my personal preference.
As is said talking about it is not it.
However its a question of meeting people where they stand.
Eckhart Tolle will appeal to a lot of people, David Hawkins to less.
Ramana to a few, Nasargadatta to even less.
But those mentioned are uniform in their subjective experience, the mind becomes silent and a state of peace prevails no matter what.
Humans are naturally curious and are drawn to all kinds of interesting things.
For me its a bit like the old fashioned types of rockets, when launched they would vere from one extreme to another while going towards the target, not this not that, then eventually they would go straight towards the goal.
ive read many books from self help positive thinking, ascension, angels, pyramid info, earth changes channeling, you name it I have been there.
All useful to me at that time but eventually for me they were a distraction and I only speak for me.
I had to get down to, if I wanted to know God subjectively I had to do the internal work as recommended by all sages throughout all of time, meditation and service to others to the best of my ability.
My present aim is to be kind to all life no matter what, sometimes I fail miserably, when there is a modicum of success I feel good, I get positive feed back tat I am on target so to speak.
the ego of course puts up a resistance and tries to tell me I am missing out on something.
The reverse is true, those who are enlightened live in an entirely different realm, free of concepts, of having to conform, free of all bondage.
Yet right action just flows through them.
With love
Chris
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Teakai
My take on the ego, Greybeard, and it’s very simple, because I really like simple, is that it’s a false sense an illusion of ourselves and who we are and the world given to us through our 5 senses via the environment. It is located in our primitive brain and is part of the survival instinct.
Tuning in to the more evolved, frontal brain can shift our attention from this primitive state and expand our beingness /consciousness.
And apparently, one way to do this (apart from meditation) is by popping the amygdala. I’m thinking that by doing this often it rewires, or reconnects or stimulates this part of our brain connecting us to a higher state of consciousness.
As to taking anything I honestly dont know.
However the act of meditation rewires the brain and that is scientifically proven in Dr Hawkins book "Power vs Force"
It is simple but not easy.
Ultimately the ego is a an illusion because it is thought based.
Anything that comes and goes is not your true Self which is eternal.
Thanks to all who post here.
Chris
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Re: Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.
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greybeard
As to taking anything I honestly dont know.
However the act of meditation rewires the brain and that is scientifically proven in Dr Hawkins book "Power vs Force"
It is simple but not easy.
Chris
LOL. I was a bit confused here for a minute. I wondered where I'd mentioned taking anything. I guess you're refering to 'popping' the amygdala. It's a node in the brain which rewires, or reconnects us to our frontal lobe - same effects as meditation - but quicker apparently.(Just in case you weren't taking the pi** :D)
I do very much agree with what you're saying about ego illusion.
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All of us, including myself, have come from this place called God, and it is that God within each and every one of us that directs our lives, unless we leave it and take on something called the ego, which is really hard to let go of.
- Wayne Dyer
Source: My Spiritual Oasis
Love, :wub: ~ Dan
P.S. Chris, you got 5 stars from me on this thread :wave:
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Teakai
LOL. I was a bit confused here for a minute. I wondered where I'd mentioned taking anything. I guess you're refering to 'popping' the amygdala. It's a node in the brain which rewires, or reconnects us to our frontal lobe - same effects as meditation - but quicker apparently.(Just in case you weren't taking the pi** :D)
I do very much agree with what you're saying about ego illusion.
Hi Teakai
I was in ignorance of popping amygdala, thanks.
Please keep posting here that how we spread understanding of a complex subject.
Chris
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Teakai
LOL. I was a bit confused here for a minute. I wondered where I'd mentioned taking anything. I guess you're refering to 'popping' the amygdala. It's a node in the brain which rewires, or reconnects us to our frontal lobe - same effects as meditation - but quicker apparently.(Just in case you weren't taking the pi** :D)
I do very much agree with what you're saying about ego illusion.
Hi Teakai
I was in ignorance of popping amygdala, thanks.
Please keep posting here that how we spread understanding of a complex subject.
Chris
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truthseekerdan
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My Spiritual Oasis
Love, :wub: ~ Dan
P.S. Chris, you got 5 stars from me on this thread :wave:
Thanks Dan
Wayne Dyer is a personal friend of Dr David Hawkins and has sat at many of his lectures taking copious notes.
"My spiritual oasis" site should have 9 stars Dan .
For general info Hawkins publisher site is.
http://www.veritaspub.com/
Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.
Dr. Hawkins is an internationally renowned psychiatrist, physician, researcher, and pioneer in the fields of consciousness research and spirituality. He writes and teaches from the unique perspective of an experienced clinician, scientist, and mystic and is devoted to the spiritual evolution of mankind.
Much of what I post regarding transcending the ego is influenced by Dr Hawkins book "Discovery of the presence of God /Devotional nonduality"
Chris
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greybeard
"My spiritual oasis" site should have 9 stars Dan .
Chris
I wish...:) Forums have only from 1 to 5 stars ratings, but thanks for your generosity. ;)
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The ego exists because we go on pedalling desire, because we go on striving to get something, because we go on jumping ahead of ourselves.
- Osho Quote