I'm Out Of My Depth. Need Assistance For Friend
here's the deal:
i have a friend out in las vegas. i'll call him john. within the last 6 weeks or so he's been experiencing a plethora of paranormal activity (actually, his girlfriend is...but being around her so much, its affected him as well, obviously)
we're talking about a guy who can't even watch scary movies. not even something like Casper The Friendly Ghost. even mention the word "ghost" and his face loses color. so as you can imagine, my poor friend is quite traumatized...
here are the facts as i know them:
-almost all the activity centers around his girlfriend, and so far only in his girlfriend's house.
-theyve been dating for maybe 6 months now, and nothing ever happened until, as John says, they lit "a ****load of sage one night". almost exactly right around this time, his girlfriend changed medications from adderal to something i cant quite remember. so, he goes back n forth from thinking the sage is responsible...wait, no, its the medication thats either A)causing hallcinations....or B)opening her up to a new world
-it began in her driveway. she was in her vehicle and a shadowy black shape appeared in her passenger seat. the entity claimed to be a man named Rob, who was a close friend of John's but had committed suicide. the entity began to say "please tell John..." but did not get to finish because the girlfriend (i'll call Ashley) became hysterical and ran off.
she told john, and he predictably freaked out. he went to the casino to chill out and get his bearings. he walked into the bathroom sometime that night, and scrawled on one of the stall walls was the word "pray". this unsettled him a little so he went into another stall...and scrawled on the stall there was the single word "Rob".
-one night Ashley has a lucid dream that instructs her and john to go down into the kitchen of her house...so they do. they wait for a while and nothing happens. but as theyre making their way upstairs to bed they hear an enormous "Boom". nothing happens after that.
-Ashley takes a picture of the mattress she's selling on craigslist. looking at the picture closely, she sees the clear image of a little girl illuminated in white. several people confirm this (i havent seen the pic yet, but he's going to send it to me)later this girl/entity tells her to move her mattresses because her place was going to be robbed that night. sure enough, the place is robbed...
-now Ashley feels she is in contact with 3 entities: two men and the little girl. Rob, John's friend who had committed suicide, has not returned.
-there is much more to the story than this. problem is, john is so traumatized by these goings on that ashley is deliberately withholding info from him so as to spare his already messed up head. one other thing he told me was this: ashleys sister told him that the little girl/entity "helped" ashley move her mattresses that night..
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ok, now, if he'd told me all this a few months ago i'd likely tell him that his girl had a gift, no worries etc. but having recently read 2 books on demonic activity/possession, i'm hardly an objective source. in fact, his situation sounds eerily similar to one of the cases in the book 'deliver us from evil'. it all sounds like its following that insidious pattern of "manifestation, infestation, oppression"...
of course i could be totally wrong. as i said in the thread title, i'm way out of my depth.
guys n gals, what do think john should do? what should ashley do? how does one proceed in a situation like this? who does one call? what can one expect?
i know we have some talented people here. any advice would be hugely appreciated. frankly i'm out of things to tell the guy..
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I am not expert but I can tell u what worked for me in a much less chaotic situation but similiar.I took back my own space with a simple affirmation done regularly once a day.meditate on the words.this is my space and idont allow any identity to interact with me unless I give permission.also if I felt anything I firmly told it to leave me alone they are not welcome.
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I wish I could offer you advice Mike, just replying to let you know I'm listening.
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Hi Mike,
I think that the medicine opened her up to it.
Certain big pharma medicine are known to open up portals to the lower astral worlds.
Never ever heard of sage as cause for these phenomenon.
Personally, I would try to get the doctor involved and get rid of the current medicine.
That should probably solve things.
All the best!
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Well I would go to a priest explain your story ask advice.
There are those who specialise in this personal I would go to a daoist but truthfully every religion has those who deal with this :o
It could be the house is haunted move out or a curse has been placed in which get it removed or the spirits have a message to say to you and will not leave until it is said :o
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Maybe share what you learned from the recent readings? Perhaps it was no coincidence that you read them? You would be offering information from people more experienced. My inquisitive nature would make me start documenting. An digital recorder an emf meter would help me in that regard. The other aspect to consider, "the why." That might be determined through evps. If non-human entities your knowledge gained plus the advice above is good. If trapped human spirit it could be a chance to help them and therefore something special for your friends. Good luck I know will do your best in sharing.
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Thanks guys...all good suggestions!
I just found out she's moving out of that place tomorrow. So theyre going to see if this makes any difference. I suspect it won't, but i'm hoping otherwise.
Meanwhile I'm trying to get a copy of that picture. I'd like to post it here. Stay tuned...
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When you find yourself on the verge of breakdown because of such things, be positive, return to old ways of acting, find a passion, something to distract you a bit...
Hold firmly in your mind (just know that) they must f*ck off.
This sort of works, over time.
Laugh in the face of unknown, this one is the best. - not in offensive way, more like laugh with it.
Ah, one more... sing.
Not to say that it is possible for your friend at this moment:
“Forget the self and you will fear nothing, in whatever level or awareness you find yourself to be.”
― Carlos Castaneda, The Active Side of Infinity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZ9Z3lxLV0 gotta fight them :ROFL:
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That's why I wouldn't want to be too psychically sensitive...this stuff would happen every day and you couldn't tune it out.
Firstly mentally we just...shouldn't be afraid of anything. Psychic dark shadows, weird flying things, whatever. I'm sure you're aware almost any animal can sense fear and react to it immediately. Same thing applies here and you'll get anything from mixed messages to stuff that just has a field day driving you bonkers.
I find it interesting that sage was apparently a trigger. It's supposed to be very purifying, but that also depends on the species and the source. Last year someone brought in some furniture from a co-worker whose aunt had died at home. I perfunctorily smudged it with frankincense from the Greek Orthodox Church and ringing a bell from a Buddhist community in India. No shenanigans happened.
For further protection, wrought iron and salt. You can go elaborate with talismans or crystals or certain stones. The less commercial and more handcrafted the better. That's for shielding purposes.
In the case of the suicide, it's the worst spiritual condition. Essentially that person is trapped in limbo or worse for the remainder of what would have been their natural life (which to them might seem like millions of years). They were probably quite lonely and may not have many choices for an audience. In that case they may need to be heard a time or two but they also need to be reminded what happened and asked to move on. He may just seem quiet to the friend because, from his point of view, he's trapped in tons of boiling lava. One day the volcano blows and he'll be back around.
Being Las Vegas, I wouldn't presume to rely on the white folks' help around there; they've probably cursed the entire surroundings. I would definitely take a day trip to a relatively uncontaminated area (if they have one) and I'll bet you four to one that a random conversation with some shabbily dressed Navajo will be incredibly more valuable than months of trawling through anything "we" have around there.
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I know what could help. You could buy her one of those ultra-comfortable, bear like blankets. It somehow makes is way easier to fall asleep. Especially when weird things are leaking into your consciousness.
Ps.
Remember that scene from Harry Potter when they faced their fears in the magic mirror, spider for Ron(?) etc.
Just do that with abstract concepts like they did it in the movie.
Like, last time i got some creepy feeling i willed myself into (thought) situation where i dance battled the sh*t out of that fear.
Macarena, of course:
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here's the deal:
i have a friend out in las vegas. i'll call him john. within the last 6 weeks or so he's been experiencing a plethora of paranormal activity (actually, his girlfriend is...but being around her so much, its affected him as well, obviously)
we're talking about a guy who can't even watch scary movies. not even something like Casper The Friendly Ghost. even mention the word "ghost" and his face loses color. so as you can imagine, my poor friend is quite traumatized...
here are the facts as i know them:
-almost all the activity centers around his girlfriend, and so far only in his girlfriend's house.
-theyve been dating for maybe 6 months now, and nothing ever happened until, as John says, they lit "a ****load of sage one night". almost exactly right around this time, his girlfriend changed medications from adderal to something i cant quite remember.
Adderal is a close relative of meth amphetamine. Study proves adderal related to Meth-AmphetimineChemically they are very closely related. Adderall contains dextroamphetamine salts, the psychoactive chemical is Amphetamine. Meth is Methamphetamine. The difference between these two molecules is one methyl group.
I don't know what the girlfriend changed her prescription to but we will have to go from here.
Below the information is attributed to Barbara Bartholik and James Bartley. It's high level scary stuff, but it is pretty good.
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Through my own research, I’ve found that Ecstasy is a key component of the reptilian behaviour modification program. Crystal meth and Ecstasy use can eventually lead to the process known as “hosting” wherein a human abductee is partially or completely taken up as a host by one or more negative entities. Crystal Meth has a “sympathetic resonance” with a variety of negative entities, including but not limited to reptilians, snake entities, demons and some of the Greys. In her personal dealings with abductees, some of whom were crystal meth users, negative entities would literally take over the abductee and say menacing things to Barbara. Barbara has sometimes observed the abductee’s face or eyes morph or “shapeshift” during these episodes. A variation of the Crystal Meth Agenda is the aforementioned Ecstasy “Rave” agenda. In a future treatise I will elaborate on the dynamics of the Rave agenda. Suffice it to say for now that Ecstasy lowers the frequency of users and long term use leads to lower back pain which becomes a doorway for negative entities to enter first through the auric field and then into the body. In conjunction with the type of music being played, the Ecstasy removes the inhibitions of the users. This results in a variety of different entities such as greys, reptilians and snake entities taking up ravers as hosts. The location of the raves becomes an anchor in this reality for these negative entities. I must point out that Pharmaceutical Drugs also play a role in the reptilian-archontic agenda. Certain pharmaceuticals lower the bio-energetic frequency of the user and also impair cognitive function. These two “side effects” alone will open gateways for negative entities to manipulate and in many cases assume control of a human
I'm not 100% on this information, but the folks who came up with it are geniuses in the field. Barbara Bartholic is responsible for most of this information. She came up with this while doing alien regression therapy. And what are aliens, but ultradimensionals. Barbara Bartholic was the partner and mentor to Dr. Karla Turner. If there were no Barbara Bartholic I do not think there would have been a Dr. Karla Turner. James Bartholic contributed here as well. But this may give you a decent starting point with which to go out and find more information.
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I happen to be listening to the ‘Steve Richards of Holographic Kinetics Healing’ series and Part 4 of 14 in particular. It may seem way out there for anyone what hasn’t followed this type of information.
A good introduction to this area is “Dispelling Wetiko: Breaking the Curse of Evil,” by Paul Levy. If your friend isn’t ready for it then with the personal experience of bathroom stalls, he might be open to information on synchronicity.
Surely, it doesn’t solve the immediate concerns but a change in residence was a wise decision. Definitely, I agree with others, change the medication tout de suite.
Snippets from this 18 minute vid. Parts of it fit your friends' situation:
“When we take drugs and alcohol, we open up worm holes to these dimensions. We’re tuning into their world. Now once we tune into their world, the Universe is about balance. They now have the right to enter into your world…."
“Once now in our dimension, it now begins to play around with the physical vehicle and try to take over the physical vehicle. Because everything needs a vehicle. And once trapped in our dimension, your vehicle is now what’s sharing with you."
He goes into how a thought evolves into a thought form, to a life form to an entity where it’s trying to take over.
Holographic Kinetics Healing - Part 4 of 14 - Inter-dimensional Interference
UPDATE: Here's a rough transcript of most of the first 8 minutes:
To understand dimensions think of it like tuning your radio. There are all different radio waves and TV channels that we’ve got out there to tune into. The same with tuning our worlds. Look at all the different dimensions out there. We live in only one skinny bank called “invisible light”. Above you’ve got ultraviolet, gamma rays, x-rays, cosmic photons. Below it, is infrared, radio waves, TV waves, government technology, alpha, theta, delta brain waves. It just like turning the radio waves, you turn the world.
We look out there and see a skinny little band called, “molecular structure”. One skinny band of visible light. Yet, if we look out into space using infrared technology, we see whole galaxies of frequency that we can’t see with the naked eye. Because we only see one dimension of light. Therefore you can understand that above and below are other dimensions. And above that are other dimensions. And above that are other dimensions. Same with below.
Now what takes place when we take drugs and alcohol, we open up worm holes into these dimensions. We’re tuning into their world. Now once we tune into their world, the Universe is about balance. They now have the right to enter into your world. And when they enter your world, we get the model of personalities. We get the bipolar, the Schizophrenic. We get a whole range of voices in the head because we have entered into another dimension and they now have the right to enter our dimension.
Once in our dimension, it now starts to play around with our physical vehicle and try to take over the physical vehicle. Because everything needs a vehicle. And once trapped in our dimension, your vehicle is now what’s sharing with you.
This goes to a hold range of other beings out there. You can have internal entities coagulate to a thought which evolves into a thought form, to a life form to an internal entity status where it’s trying to take over.
You have the external entity where’s it’s been let loose is out there maybe at the local pub. With alcohol, it lowers our defenses and allow these entities to enter and they take over. How many times you say, “I had a great time last night, but I can remember a thing that happened.” That’s because they weren’t driving the vehicle.
Court cases you hear him say, “I don’t know why I do the same thing over and over.” He’s stuck in time.
“I don’t know, I have a few beers and it’s like something takes over.” He does.
They are telling you what’s going on. No one listens to the spirit of the being and what it’s telling you.
Until we start to listen, how can we understand and how do we make changes? Why are there repeat offenders? No ones ever involved with time and space in those dimensions to find the cause of the effect of what their stuck in.
The amount we enfold in time and space, not to mention time will loop itself, that puts yourself out of time. And instantly a dimension that was…no longer effects you.
Take the voices out of their head and they’re no longer mentality insane. We have to understand that we are multidimensional. As multidimensional beings in a multidimensional world there are many other dimensions out there. We just live in one dimension therefore when we violate laws (and waging) in other dimensions, and I mean laws. There are laws within laws. Laws of lore (traditions and knowledge) of universal knowledge and dimensions. He who enters the dimension of another is governed by the laws of that dimension. Now that you entered their dimension, now they have the right to enter your dimension.
Go into a bank, taxi or some one’s home there are law of that bank, taxi, or house. Everybody has a field around them known as a torus field. And that field around you is your field. Nothing can enter your field unless you let it enter in.
They set up all these wonderful game to trap you so you’ll open up your door. No matter what you call in, the moment you call in from the external YOU DISEMPOWER YOUR SPIRIT AND GIVE POWER TO outside your reality permission to enter you.
Like when you were a four year old child and you cry ‘I don’t want to be here. I shouldn’t be here. I’ve got the wrong parents.” I don’t want to be here means the law of intent has been activated. That counts as an invitation to something that does.
“I wish I was dead.” - That’s an invitation for anyone that wants to live.
“I wish I had a friend.” - That’s an invitation for a friend to appear.
See, the first law of the universe is the Law of Intent. Whatever that intent the invisibles put out will start the creation first in the invisible. Then it’ll works it’s way through the visible. Now, to understand how to change the visible, you must change the invisible. So look at structures. Look at nature. There’s not two trees the same. There’s nothing the same in nature. Everything is perfect in side of dimension. Everything is perfect in it’s own creation. So why does our mental health system turn around and categorize it in this little box? They put everyone with similar issues in the same box. I’ve worked over 40 year on over 10,000 cases and I have never found two cases the same, because EVERY CREATION IS SEPARATE, INDEPENDENT, INDIVIDUAL.
And not only by accessing the cause of the effect of that individual creation can we enfold time and space on the dimension and change the past in the present which loops time and changes the future.
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G'day Mike,
Sorry to hear that your friends may have a problem. Please impress on them the need to not freak out too quickly, even though paranormal events can be quite spooky to the uninitiated..
Please allow me to pose a few questions:
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nothing ever happened until, as John says, they lit "a ****load of sage one night".
Why Mike? Smudging is a cleansing ritual which can be used to respectfully request that entities which may be behaving in a malevolent/mischievous/negative fashion simply leave. Are you sure that there was no prior activity which prompted the sage event?
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...almost exactly right around this time, his girlfriend changed medications from adderal to something i cant quite remember.
Any chance of finding out? DNA has kindly posted some good info on Adderal, and I do believe that it may act as door opener in one's brain.
Though Ashley is actually taking the med's, John may have experienced this entitie's handiwork as well, i.e the writing of the words "Pray" and "Rob" on the wall. It takes a lot of energy for an entity to do that, but no malevolence was evident.
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...one night Ashley has a lucid dream that instructs her and john to go down into the kitchen of her house...so they do. they wait for a while and nothing happens. but as theyre making their way upstairs to bed they hear an enormous "Boom". nothing happens after that.
Once again, unnerving, but no malevolence.
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Ashley takes a picture of the mattress she's selling on craigslist. looking at the picture closely, she sees the clear image of a little girl illuminated in white. several people confirm this (i havent seen the pic yet, but he's going to send it to me)later this girl/entity tells her to move her mattresses because her place was going to be robbed that night. sure enough, the place is robbed...
Once the door is opened...
Any way, if correct the advice given may have been helpful.
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-now Ashley feels she is in contact with 3 entities: two men and the little girl. Rob, John's friend who had committed suicide, has not returned.
It is a shame that Rob chose to take his own life. I believe that such action does not help one to move on.
I'll PM a member that I think is better able than I to render sound advice.
The only advice that I will offer is to not consult a priest.
All the Best,
Tony.
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You initial post has the following text,
we're talking about a guy who can't even watch scary movies. not even something like Casper The Friendly Ghost. even mention the word "ghost" and his face loses color. so as you can imagine, my poor friend is quite traumatized...
Addressing the fear would be the first step in my opinion. From my experience in these type of situations, as one removes the fear, different types of choices manifest. Fear prevents the necessary resources from manifesting.
Your posting indicated visual related pictures such as movies, which trigger biological responses in the face color. Removing that fear by using the process listed in the below URL may assist. I have used this process with a women who had biological response when she visualized something in her mind that was ghost related.
If you can have your friend visual a ghost in their mind and have this trigger a biological response the process should work.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Past-Memories
Be In Peace,
OBwan
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here's the deal:
i have a friend out in las vegas. i'll call him john. within the last 6 weeks or so he's been experiencing a plethora of paranormal activity (actually, his girlfriend is...but being around her so much, its affected him as well, obviously)
we're talking about a guy who can't even watch scary movies. not even something like Casper The Friendly Ghost. even mention the word "ghost" and his face loses color. so as you can imagine, my poor friend is quite traumatized...
here are the facts as i know them:
-almost all the activity centers around his girlfriend, and so far only in his girlfriend's house.
-theyve been dating for maybe 6 months now, and nothing ever happened until, as John says, they lit "a ****load of sage one night". almost exactly right around this time, his girlfriend changed medications from adderal to something i cant quite remember.
Adderal is a close relative of meth amphetamine. Study proves adderal related to Meth-AmphetimineChemically they are very closely related. Adderall contains dextroamphetamine salts, the psychoactive chemical is Amphetamine. Meth is Methamphetamine. The difference between these two molecules is one methyl group.
I don't know what the girlfriend changed her prescription to but we will have to go from here.
Below the information is attributed to Barbara Bartholik and James Bartley. It's high level scary stuff, but it is pretty good.
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Through my own research, I’ve found that Ecstasy is a key component of the reptilian behaviour modification program. Crystal meth and Ecstasy use can eventually lead to the process known as “hosting” wherein a human abductee is partially or completely taken up as a host by one or more negative entities. Crystal Meth has a “sympathetic resonance” with a variety of negative entities, including but not limited to reptilians, snake entities, demons and some of the Greys. In her personal dealings with abductees, some of whom were crystal meth users, negative entities would literally take over the abductee and say menacing things to Barbara. Barbara has sometimes observed the abductee’s face or eyes morph or “shapeshift” during these episodes. A variation of the Crystal Meth Agenda is the aforementioned Ecstasy “Rave” agenda. In a future treatise I will elaborate on the dynamics of the Rave agenda. Suffice it to say for now that Ecstasy lowers the frequency of users and long term use leads to lower back pain which becomes a doorway for negative entities to enter first through the auric field and then into the body. In conjunction with the type of music being played, the Ecstasy removes the inhibitions of the users. This results in a variety of different entities such as greys, reptilians and snake entities taking up ravers as hosts. The location of the raves becomes an anchor in this reality for these negative entities. I must point out that Pharmaceutical Drugs also play a role in the reptilian-archontic agenda. Certain pharmaceuticals lower the bio-energetic frequency of the user and also impair cognitive function. These two “side effects” alone will open gateways for negative entities to manipulate and in many cases assume control of a human
I'm not 100% on this information, but the folks who came up with it are geniuses in the field. Barbara Bartholic is responsible for most of this information. She came up with this while doing alien regression therapy. And what are aliens, but ultradimensionals. Barbara Bartholic was the partner and mentor to Dr. Karla Turner. If there were no Barbara Bartholic I do not think there would have been a Dr. Karla Turner. James Bartholic contributed here as well. But this may give you a decent starting point with which to go out and find more information.
Interesting to note that "E" is reputed to principally, in origin, and in some aspects of production.... to come out of Israel.
As for all the happenings, well, welcome to the real world and into the realm of real power. power in self, power in knowing.
Get some sea legs.. and move into a different world, self empowered. Life and death as those two knew it are now banished to a trashbin somewhere. They are given the opportunity to grow again, and find their immortality, to lose all fears..and step outside of time and Newtonian monkey based realities.
It's a gift, not a curse. It's life, not death. It's freedom, not fear.
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Hi Mike, it sounds like from the above responses that changing John's girlfriend's drugs is likely an essential step. If doing that and moving doesnt help, then i would suggest hiring a preist to come to bless their house. At our previous residence my stepson claimed that he heard noises in the halls and doorknobs turning when no one was there. Others in our home also noticed anomalies. We then hired an orthodox christian priest to bless the house and had no further problems.
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Ask the creator of all that's good to rid or help understand the message of John so he can receive it and they can go. He must tell the Creator/God that he is uncomfortable with this manifestation in their lives at this time. He must ask Yahuw/Yashua/Jesus to send his protectors for comfort in their lives as these entities cause fear and uncertainty and upset.
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more info is needed.
1: Check if the girl in the Photo is the girlfriend at a younger age. Depending on the answer there are separate ways to go from here.
2: Check if the "Phenomenon" is location based or person based. Ask her if it only occurs in the House or if she also experienced it/them somewhere else. This is important to know.
3: How long is she in contact with them? And how did they meet her the first time? Did she invite them? Was it just a voice in the beginning?
At the current state i can only give some advice. He must decide if he wants to help her or if he is more interested in his own sanity. If the answer its his own sanity, then its easy for him: turn around and walk away. Above was mentioned that a priest can help (if it is some kind of possession/attachment), that right but i would only do this as a last resort. And if he does it it should be a pro, something like a high Jesuit Priest, they know their game. I would rather call upon an Indian medicine man, they also know their game and that´s mostly the saver route than a full blown exorcism. But from the given information its not clear what´s happening, try to get more info.
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here's the deal:
Where are you Mike?
