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EC1000
... When I think about stuff like this, I always wonder, well, why haven't they done it already? They could always make up excuses to pull the trigger on WWIII and implement the NWO. I mean, why it didn’t happen after 9/11. If they want to pull the trigger, they would pull the trigger ...
Due to its pyramidal organization, the NWO cabal cannot carry out its plans unless chains of command are followed. For that to happen the majority of people at each level of the command structure must believe that what they are doing is necessary and right. There are probably less than 10,000 people on the planet who actually want to foment a third world war. Even the majority of them have probably been misled into believing that its a necessary evil and the end will justify the means.
Only the people, person or other entity at the very apex of the pyramid, however, knows what the actual planned ends are. If people are taught the end justifies the means, they would also be encouraged to lie, cheat and steal to accomplish objectives. The more successful one becomes at this, the higher one would rise within the organization. The highest ranking people within such an organization then would be some of the least honest and most ruthless people on the planet.
The attacks of September 11, 2001 are probably the most historically significant event of my lifetime. Every major intelligence agency on the planet (and their respective governments) knows the official story is a lie. The fact that none of them have come forward to expose the truth proves to me that (for whatever reason) they have chosen to go along with the cabal’s plans.
If any major world leader truly wanted to avert WWIII, coming forward with the truth on this subject is all I believe it would take. If the soldiers being sent to Iraq and Afghanistan had known the truth of who was behind 9/11 they would more likely have hunted down Bush than Saddam. If they learned the truth now they certainly wouldn’t march off to Syria, Iran or anywhere else (with the possible exception of Washington.)
Again, the NWO’s plans can only succeed if chains of command are followed. Given the nature of the plans, that can only happen if people at each level of the command structure are duped into believing that what they are doing is necessary and good. So, if you’re among the 7 billion people who don’t want to bring about a nuclear war- educate yourself and educate others, stop cooperating with the forces who do want to bring this about, treat others as you would like to be treated, and tell the truth.
Addendum- Within an hour of posting this I was no longer able to connect via the ISP it was sent from. Maybe just a coincidence, but if others have similar problems please post them.
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Re: Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, Israel, Iran, Turkey, Putin, China, and World War III
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:
- "The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
- "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
- "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
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Wesley Clark, A retired Army General and a West Point graduate was speaking at the Commonwealth club in California in 2007 about the intentioned plans of the US in the Iraq war days to move on and invade another 7 countries in 5 years. This testimony complements that of Bill's 'Anglo Saxon Mission' insider by the mere fact that such wars are planned well ahead, for obvious inferious reasons whether by the British cabal or by the US one, both are the same controling forces. Which brings back the question, what is the 'higher' story here? and is Russia and China are really on the other side? or is this 'shebang' an orchastrated event with various players all playing their part but are all playing on the same side.. anyway, this video is worth listening to
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mu8sss-8B28
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This item is on Davids site ...
In this interview Ex-Israeli Air Security Chief Yeffet also
says the Iranians were behind 9/11 this follows an article the other
day that it was Iran behind Lockerbie bomb. This could be used in
an Iraq style ' Dodgy Dossier' report ? point the finger at Tehran
long enough and hope the mainstream press buy it. The public
in the US and UK are war weary so a lot of lobbying or another
false flag will be needed to drag us into another conflict.
Ex-Israeli Air Security Chief Yeffet: Iran May Be Behind Jet Mystery
new Thursday 20th March 2014 at 07:16 By David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/w...ag-warning.jpg
‘Iranian intelligence officials may be behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines
Flight 370 earlier this month, former El Al Airlines security chief Isaac Yeffet says.
“We have bad experiences with the Iranians, unfortunately…. I would not be
surprised… if one of the intelligence bodies, group of Iranians, were involved,”
Yeffet told “The Steve Malzberg Show” on Newsmax TV.
“They will land [the aircraft] in place that nobody will know. It will take years, if not
more, to find what’s happened with this aircraft.”‘
Read more: Ex-Israeli Air Security Chief Yeffet: Iran May Be Behind Jet Mystery
Short Vid on link below
http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/ir...n=widgetphase1
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/
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I ran across this today from Daboo7 a story published in Russia in 2008 predicting WW 3 started in the Crimea by Obama
original article
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2008/12/26/789711.shtml
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This is interesting, 2015 could be the first year for a century that British troops
are not fighting somewhere. If you count expanding and policing the empire its
much longer . I said above the public are war weary not TPTB ......
The Anglo Saxon mission is the extension of the old Empire days.
So there is room in the war diary for 2015 !!
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British Killing Trend – U.K. Foreign Policy Limited to ‘Humanitarian’ Pro-War Choices
Thursday 20th March 2014 at 03:36 By David Icke
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‘News that 2015 might turn out to be the first year since 1914 when British troops
will not be fighting a war somewhere in the world appeared to come as a shock to
many. But in fact, the British record of Permanent War stretches back much
further. Seumas Milne commented in the Guardian that empire forces ‘were
involved in violent suppression of anti-colonial rebellions every year from at least
the 1760s for the next 200 years, quite apart from multiple other full-scale wars’.
One might think a rational society would try to identify and counter the institutional
forces responsible for hundreds of years of continuous war. Basic questions could
be asked: Who actually shapes foreign policy? What are their goals? How much
influence does the public really have? In our society, as we have noted, defence
issues are barely mentioned at election time, while foreign policy options among
the major parties are limited to pro-war choices.’
If the great and good of politics, academia and media are to be believed, there is
nothing to discuss, UK policy has always been guided by humanitarian values.
Winston Churchill described ‘the reputation of the British empire as a valiant and
benignant force in the history of mankind’. (Quoted, Mark Curtis, The Ambiguities
of Power, Zed Books, 1995, p.1)
A professor of government at the University of Manchester described Britain as ‘a
defender of political freedom’. (Ibid, p.2)
Shortly after Nato began pounding Afghanistan in 2001, the Guardian’s editors
commented on a speech by Tony Blair:
‘The core of the speech – intellectual as well as moral – came when he contrasted
the west’s commitment to do everything possible to avoid civilian casualties and the
terrorists’ proven wish to cause as many civilian casualties as possible… Let them
do their worst, we shall do our best, as Churchill put it. That is still a key
difference.’ (Leader, ‘Blair plays it cooler – A new tone, but few new answers,’ The
Guardian, October 31, 2001)
Alternatively, we can turn to the official record. Released government documents
indicate, for example, the thinking behind the mid-twentieth century wars in
Southeast Asia. The UK, the US and France agreed that it was ‘important for the
economy of Western Europe that Western Europe trading and business interests in
Southeast Asia should be maintained’, since it was ‘rich in natural resources and
certain countries in the area at present produce surplus foodstuffs’. (Quoted, Ibid, p.20)
Similarly: ‘The position of the rulers of the Persian Gulf might be thought of as that
of independence, regulated, supervised and defined’ by the British government. (US
Department of State memorandum, 15 March, 1946. Quoted, Ibid, p.22)
Similar perspectives and motives for ‘intervention’ are revealed wherever we look
and universally labelled ‘defence of democracy’.
Read more: British Killing Trend – U.K. Foreign Policy Limited to 'Humanitarian' Pro-War Choices
http://www.globalresearch.ca/british...hoices/5374355
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/
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This follows an article yesterday....
How the British public is being emotionally blackmailed to support wars it never wanted
Wednesday 19th March 2014 at 03:21 By David Icke
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‘Last week Ed Miliband visited Afghanistan and promised that a future Labour
government would make it illegal to ‘abuse’ and ‘discriminate’ against members of
the British armed forces. The origins of this proposal go back to the 2008 National
Recognition of the Armed Forces report commissioned by Gordon Brown and drawn
up by Tory defector Quentin Davies, which included a raft of proposals on how to
change the public image of the armed forces. These included a greater public
presence of uniformed soldiers, and an expansion of cadet forces in schools – and
legislation banning discrimination against anyone wearing the ‘Queen’s uniform.’ .
Since then the prospect of an anti-discrimination bill has flitted in and out of public
view, mostly as a Labour initiative. In the summer of 2013, pressure for a new law
re-emerged, boosted by a poll which found that 1 in five servicemen and women
had experienced some form of discrimination, including the exclusion of uniformed
soldiers from pubs and restaurants to physical and verbal insults.
There are, of course, laws that prevent physical or verbal assaults on soldiers
already – because soldiers have the same rights as other members of the public.
But now Miliband proposes to make it an ‘aggravated’ offense if servicemen and
women are subjected to such assaults, leading to a potentially more serious
sentence, in order to provide them with ‘ extra protection, similar to religious
groups, ethnic minorities, and disabled people’.’
Read more: How the British public is being emotionally blackmailed to support wars it never wanted
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/news/how-t...y#.UyqnJI1OWUl
There are lots of articles on Davids site about all this....
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/03/19/
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Posted by
Cidersomerset
This item is on Davids site ...
In this interview Ex-Israeli Air Security Chief Yeffet also
says the Iranians were behind 9/11 this follows an article the other
day that it was Iran behind Lockerbie bomb. This could be used in
an Iraq style ' Dodgy Dossier' report ? point the finger at Tehran
long enough and hope the mainstream press buy it. The public
in the US and UK are war weary so a lot of lobbying or another
false flag will be needed to drag us into another conflict.
Ex-Israeli Air Security Chief Yeffet: Iran May Be Behind Jet Mystery
new Thursday 20th March 2014 at 07:16 By David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/w...ag-warning.jpg
I have worked for the Israeli Air security for three years after my military service. Nasty things are happening there.
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Spacyman
This plan was already known in the mid 90's and was extensively described in the book "Le livre jaune #5" (Yellow book #5), written by 3 insiders. It is quite disturbing how much things corroborate and seems to be right on plan 2 decades later.
For anyone
able to read french, I HIGHLY recommend you to read this book. It is the bible on the new world order conspiracy as far as I know. It literally changed my vision of the world 10 years ago.
Free PDF here :
http://fr.scribd.com/doc/3310821/Livre-Jaune-N5
download the pdf here
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https://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&...ed=0CAgQqS4oBQ
Thursday 20 March 2014 Ukraine , World
Ukraine: Russia planning 'full blown' military intervention
There are "indications" that Russia may be planning a military intervention in the south and east of Ukraine, Kiev's ambassador to the United Nations warns.
Vladimir Putin, Ukraine defence forces and David Cameron (picture: Getty)
"There are indications that Russia is on its way to unleash a full blown military intervention in Ukraine's east and south," Yurii Klymenko said.
His statement was widely supported by other UN ambassadors, but challenged by a Russian diplomat, who read a prepared statement justifying Russia's actions so far.
Meanwhile, EU leaders are meeting in Brussels to discuss extending travel bans and assets freezes against Russian political figures.
warmest,
crosby
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Amzer Zo
Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:
- "The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
G'day Amzer Zo,
I'm not familiar with these passages but wonder how did Pike write about Nazism in 1871 when the term itself didn't exist until the 1920's? Also there was no International Communism in 1871 either.
Was he a psychic? A quick search seems to indicate he was a Confederate officer. Am I missing something here? Is there a verified copy of the original letter somewhere?
-- Pan
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I think Russia knows the game at least since 2008. Question is: Russia is with the cabal like the others or not ?
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Russian article from 2008: "Obama will trigger World War III starting from the Crimea peninsula"
[link to
www.utro.ru
Translation from google translate:
Obama begins the third world in the Crimea Remember this page!
December 26 , 16:58 | Arseny Palkin
Lenty.ru: Japan Crimea is not a hindrance
REGNUM: Yatsenuk forced to speak in Russian
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Under the new U.S. President Barack Obama in the Crimea will be implemented scenario of armed conflict. " It is the American scenario , and under Obama the probability is much higher than under McCain, " - said at a roundtable in Kiev, Russian political scientist Andrei Okara , said " New Region " .
Expert explains : "It became clear when it was announced that what people will represent the Obama team . These are people whose professional registration - Wall Street. These people are engaged in a technology called " technologies of controlled chaos . "
According to Okara , after Georgia area " controlled chaos " in the first place , was to be the Ukraine, namely - Crimea . " This is the point of a fire , including global conflicts that escalate into a world war , which, unfortunately , is one of the scenarios , the implementation of which at the moment from the real " - says the analyst.
His colleague from the Ukrainian Institute of Russia Andrey Blinov agree that Russia is not interested in such a conflict . " When people talk about the war in the Crimea or in the hamlet St. Michael , I believe that this scenario is marginal . A question more active economic participation of Russian capital is very likely. But it depends on when the crisis is over . If in 2010 , while Russia will be much weaker , "- said the expert .
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Good point Pan, see this post (<---) for a discussion of that letter and this one (<---) for evidence that "they" were behind schedule for their WW I (starting at: "Rodman brought me the historical records from the Skull and Bone’s Crypt.").
As for psychic gift (or sript follower) here is the view from Angelo Roncalli AKA Pope John XXIII in -- allegedly -- 1935:
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The son of the Beast locked in the lair, holding tight to the other's wife. On his death, the mystery. But beware the one who left the lair at the end. He will take long to die and will prepare the world other scourges. He knows the true face of the Beast.
The Son of the Beast, brought forth in one year.
Nuremberg the unjust. The killers are absent. Some of them on the judges' bench. This shadow spreads far.
The president will fall, fall his brother will. Between them the cadaver of the innocent star. There are some who know. Ask the first black widow and the man who will lead her on the island to the altar. (Jackie Kennedy became Onassis on "Scorpio island"...). Their secrets lie in weapons, in crimes. And those are the secrets of the one who wasn't at Nuremberg.
Three will shoot on the president; the third one will be among the three who will strike on the second.
Time has nurtured a troubled spirit, in the shadow of the black and red cross, unknown to everyone, daughter of the Nuremberg fugitives. She weaved crime against herself. Some give up on life for evil’s love.
Israel who fights and suffers, no less than who attacks you and who doesn't know how to share your pain. You are brothers, someone prods you to fight while remaining hidden. Here the world destiny is decided. And in the palace where nations hug, the fugitive from the lair is very much alive. (Kurt Waldheim, former UN president was discovered to be a former active Nazi). From the palace, hate towards Israel. And this will be a sign of ruin.
From the South against Luther* and the heirs of Nuremberg, those who were missing, those who were sitting on the judges seats. The one who was the slave colony of salt and copper imposes her people's will.
Only today ends Nuremberg. But beware the face which smiles and comes from the South, more south than all of them. His heart was always north, he came back to take it back with his black brothers. There is still fear, but in peace all the men from high and low Luther will look for someone. And the day a woman will pledge on the renovated bible will be day of peace.
*(America; the sons of Luther are the Americans in Roncalli's speech, from the Protestants who came to America to escape religious persecutions; as well, the French are the "Sons of Joan/Jeanne [d'Arc]")
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Aurelius
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Posted by
Spacyman
This plan was already known in the mid 90's and was extensively described in the book "Le livre jaune #5" (Yellow book #5), written by 3 insiders. It is quite disturbing how much things corroborate and seems to be right on plan 2 decades later.
For anyone
able to read french, I HIGHLY recommend you to read this book. It is the bible on the new world order conspiracy as far as I know. It literally changed my vision of the world 10 years ago.
Free PDF here :
http://fr.scribd.com/doc/3310821/Livre-Jaune-N5
download the pdf
here
Thank you for the lead. You sent us here to Livre Jaune Number 7 in pdf (here button)
Here is the link for Livre Jaune Number 5nin pdf
http://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2012/06/09/livre-jaune-n-5/
I remember very well reading it at the time and thinking the plans were machiavelic - in fact, having problems to think it could be true, and here we are.
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Panopticon, I wondered something similar. So I went looking and found this:
http://wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3...eshut-webcast/
As it says, that wars are fomented in advance is not denied, just the false attribution of these words to Pike.
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"US Navy SEALs are right now identifying nuclear targets to be hit by American submarines in the Black Sea"- the only thing I can state about this is: a new co-worker of mine (Latvian) said that according to his news sources a few days ago a US Navy Seal was captured in the Ukraine and is being interrogated by Russian forces- so maybe the Russians will learn some things...
please be well Bill and all-
Larry
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Bill Ryan
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- Iran, meanwhile, has had nuclear weapons for years, and may have an intention to strike the US with an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) weapon.
I'm not pretending that I actually know what is going on in the world. Most of the reality of the large-scale and long-term planning is no doubt beyond-top-secret conspiring, and within the plans are not only strategic contingencies but strategic psychological operations with layers of disinformation, intended to influence the moves of real decision makers. Disinformation in the hands of someone "on the inside", with the rank/clearance to make it seem entirely plausible that the information actually is "information" rather than "disinformation", is a powerful tool for spreading disinformation.
The "data point" I've highlighted feels very much like disinformation. It does not pass the "smell test", and defies any sort of logic. Yes, it is true that insane people do illogical things, but I would think that self-destructive insanity would be more attributed to an individual or small cadre, and more likely a short-term, knee-jerk reaction to some perceived threat - rather than a long-term, self-serving, strategic plan. The "data point" serves the agenda of the Israeli government and anyone that wants to foment WWIII (such as the "secret government"/"hidden hand" behind the US government.) It is impossible to see how the "data point" would actually serve the interests of Iran.
It is public knowledge that Israel wants to destroy Iran, and has the nuclear arsenal to actually do it - and a sustained insanity and malevolence within the leadership spanning decades. If the "data point" was that Iran wants to deploy an EMP weapon over Israel, knocking out their capability to launch an unprovoked nuclear attack against Iran, there would be some logic. But Iran striking out against the US? The US, with over 700 military installations worldwide, would not lose retaliatory capabilities with an EMP strike over the US mainland. Iran would have justified their own complete annihilation, and the US government would deliver it. Not very strategic. Much more likely, this is a disinformation point coming from the pen jointly held by those who actually wish to foment WWIII: Israel and the US (and the hidden hands controlling these governments) - and any action attributed to Iran will be a false-flag created by the same governments' underlying true power-base.
The "data point" also seems worthless if the intent is to garner US citizen's support against Iran. The US government hasn't listened - at all - to the will of its citizens for at least decades if not a century or more. They simply do whatever they wish, and have the Department of Propaganda (mass media) gloss-over or justify any action. US citizens range from clueless to helpless, and are certainly not a factor in military decision-making.
I have to add that if the climate situation is as dire as it appears to be (near-term extinction of most species on Earth, including all humans on the surface of the Earth within a few decades), then any plans for a one-world government (NWO) or WWIII make absolutely no sense at all. What's the point? The survivors in their underground cities won't benefit from any of this, having imprisoned themselves beneath the surface of a dead planet that they didn't even try to save.
Dennis
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Okay Bill.
I will translate your post in Bulgarian and post it here as soon as I am ready. If not today, the day after.
( you know, my current country might appear small, but it might not be that small in its strategically interesting location. )
I was reminded of a film. But I cannot remember the name of it (!)
It was about the Russian's almost pressing the button, and how one person prevented it from happening, by simply stating the obvious as in letting the government know who and why. or the other way around. I have forgotten the details.
If I remember the name, will write it down.
Peace.
Edited to add:
May be to add a translation of the title of the thread in the thread name?
Don't know if it is necessary, just a thought.
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Hmmm...
Interesting, but I have to say that the Russian military hardly seems bottled up or tied down by the situation in Ukraine. Crimea fell without a single shot fired. And since then I believe there's only been one casualty, if I'm not mistaken, on the Russian side. It was quite possibly the easiest takeover in modern history.
I can't imagine the situation using up too many of their (Russian) resources when the other side isn't even fighting back.