https://youtube.com/watch?v=FbEgv...yer_embedded#!
Interesting Video with a lot of BS in my view in this. Boy, either the Government fear this man real bad, or someone got to much time on their hands.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=FbEgv...yer_embedded#!
Interesting Video with a lot of BS in my view in this. Boy, either the Government fear this man real bad, or someone got to much time on their hands.
Oh.. please tell us more?
Can we have some bullet points? I do try to avoid watching anything that's over ten minutes these days... unless it absolutely sings and rocks, and is pretty life changing stuff.
I still, really, really, want to read Mr Icke's book, it's about four arms lengths from me even now... but I just can't seem to muster the enthusiasm. It would save me a read if someone says it's all tosh. But if what they're saying is all tosh, then it's back to the drawing board.
My guess is we can't believe anything we read or see unless we've had direct firsthand experience of it ourselves. Which kind of narrows me down to an extremely small area of expertise.
Pool anyone ?
Pool seems a good idea, which planet?
I haven't watched the attached vid yet, but even if David is not legit, what's wrong with his message? His message is most important.
Still watching. Very long video. In my opinion, this video has the fingerprints of the ADL all over it.
Small blue green ball into the black hole ?
Hmm there are several ways to look at this. I know this may not sound popular, but :
We can either thank the likes of Jones and Icke to 'waking' us up to the bigger picture...or it could be that they are not pitching the whole truth, or even making things seem worse than they are. I don't know the truth of the real situation, but , logically, we have found certain things to not be true, logically , other things may not be true either.
Here's me believing the Queen really IS a shpaeshifting reptile, and actually, perhaps there's a small chance that she's not. Wow. Just think of the implication of that truth. And if she's not an alien.. and the moon isn't hollow.. then what else is not entirely correct?
So maybe they have done a favour, but maybe they haven't. Personally, I like Dave, I like his 'common man' approach. I hope details of his dicoveries get proven one way or another. Perhaps without Icke, there would be no Wikileaks to found.... or camelot even for that matter.... he's the original truthseeker..
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To save you the time, a full transcript is here:
http://davidickedebunked.com/?page_id=13
It ends like this:
********Jesus spoke of the time that’s coming, he said:
Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be delivered.
It interesting that here is a guy that not even his enemies can find a good reason to accuse him, He is entirely just and sincere, and humble, in the bible, yet for some unknown reason, what he said is absolutley true, we will be hated for his name sake.
This hate has to come from a third party, the illuminati perverts the bible to make you think that religion is equal with Jesus so that you will reject Him.
I submit to all of you that Jesus was the most anti-religious person that ever walked the face of the earth, he had nothing but compassion for sinners of even the worst kind…the only harsh things he ever said was to the clergy of his day….oh and the bankers.
The reason the mere calling on his name crushes whatever force is behind sleep paralysis and so called alien abductions is because he really is who he claimed to be. And the demons are just as scared of him now as they were during the pages of the bible.
Jesus said Matthew 11:28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Matthew 11:29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30 “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
Christianity is not a belief system it’s a supernatural event that happens to you, your life begins to change, you start to love the things of God and hate the things of sin, you are given new power to turn from things that have you in chains, it doesn’t mean you will be prefect but you will start to change and that change will continue your whole life, it is freedom from bondage not a list of rules.
Mark 10:45 “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
Acts 17:30 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”
I do not think that David Icke knows that he is being used as a tool for the new world order, I would like to think that he would turn from his ways if he could be convinced of it. I want to ask you to help me pray for Mr Icke.
That's just another debunking from Chris White. It's been the third time now on this forum that I lift the flag about Mr. 'crusader' Chris White. If you search a bit for the man, you will notice that he has debunked almost all of the most popular 'whistleblowers/researchers' in the anglo saxon comunity.
But, he even debunked the Mayan calendars! Hehe. Anyway, the guy isn't interested in the truth, but rather defending his own beleif system. He was once a member of avalon1 and came to debunk. He wasn't with us for long...
Hope this help, just search for the man and you'll see my point.
His material are a lost of precious time, that's for sure in my perspective.
Namaste, Steven
I recently finished Icke's latest book - Human Race Get Off Your Knees.
It was a very worthwhile read, in my opinion. The last thing David is - is a 'tool for the new world order'.
Thanks Bill for saving me the trouble of investing more time in evaluating this attack on his message.
(first post after joining yesterday)
Thanks for the grand finale there Bill, that saves even more time. I like to pop in to various 'debunked' sites when I come across them, just to make sure there's not something I may have overlooked. Never hurts to double check one's self, no? This one seems about par for the course, an insult to the intellect.
Cheers,
Fred
Banshee, that confused me at first too, had to read it a couple of times because it didn't sound like something Bill would say. He didn't. He just displayed the last part or the movie transcript.
Cheers,
fred
Thanks, Steven.
I just dumped about 1/2 page of silly quotes from the transcript, and you saved me a very large amount of typing. Skimming over the transcript, it seems like a rather desperate attempt at associating Icke with everything from NWO, possession, fairies, demons, and psychosis, to bad drugs. THEN he tries to make a case that none of this exists.
From what little I've read of him, even David Icke himself isn't this convoluted. And frankly, I speak to Jesus nearly every day, and he has yet to mention Chris White.
You would think a person with this much energy might spend a little time on what he does believe. Maybe next time.
Fred
I think Bill meant with his post that the people behind the video are religious nuts. I'm watching the video myself though.
thank god (lol) - the last paragraph didn't end in quotes, my fuzzy brain thought those were Bill's words....... thought we had another time line change there for a minute :)
My apologies to Bill Ryan for asking a question that I should have known the answer to ( and for wasting his time).
Actually......... errrr.....((( flame suit goes on top of asbestos underwear )))....I think it's a very good breakdown of the big picture.
It doesn't dent my respect for David Icke one bit.
For me, it just ups the name of the game a tad.
Eventually all truth workers betray their pet entrainments and this guy betrayes his, he's clearly a bible 'basher'. That doesn't disqualify him from contributing his best efforts to the discussion though. In any healthy discussion we try to air the most precious of peoples views without getting bogged down in individual struggles.
I got a lot from this film. Perhaps not what the creator might have wanted me to get from it, but I got a lot. He has a clarity of logic that would be nice to see more.
After watching the entire video I don't feel that he has "debunked" David Icke at all. David Icke comes out of it still David Icke ' the truth worker' that he was before it started. We are all scrambling around sifting and sorting clues and getting things wrong etc etc.... David Icke is still monumental in that scramble in my eyes.
:peep:
Having 'come up' through the "Hunter S" school of self warping, I'd like to make a case for that, if I may... :p.Quote:
...to bad drugs
I's kinda like that 'guy' line about sex, even bad sex -is still good.
Knowing when to stop is the key. No, I certainly don't advise that sort of path for anyone... and after visiting it, I found I could get much higher with nothing in my system.