Mike, have you thought that he may actually be a forum member? What tells you he is not?
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alright...you got me...
i'm the Ruiner.
i think you're onto something Flash. time will tell.
i just think the Ruiner has always planned on posting here at some point...as the "Ruiner". these guys always play it a bit coy though, thus my little quip. they love to pretend like it never crossed their mind to post on the forum.
'The Ruiner' mentioned Jan Irvin and the 'Trivium'
And Mark Passio
Link to Trivium study
http://www.triviumeducation.com/
I have to work really, really hard to listen to Mark Passio. He’s like nails on a chalkboard. (Sorry, Robin. :ROFL: I've watched a couple of his series: “Dismantle Matrix,” “Natural Law & The New Age Deception” and some other videos.)
I was happy to learn of Jan Irvin from Ruiner’s post. The video below was my introduction to him. I was so impressed that I purchased a couple of books. One of which is: “The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric”
What is Mind Control? by Jan Irvin - Paranoia Conference, 2014<3
i agree robin-i find dr.greer does the same thing---but i still honor them and their work
I'm Spartacus
Hi everyone. :bowing:
Although i have posted a couple of comments on the ruiner's blog, this is my first post in this thread.
I am sure many of you have noticed over the years that when a new kid on the block arrives, or "flavor of the month" as has been mentioned who may well be genuine people with good intentions in their hearts to assist humanity to move forward,, who bring to the table new insights of information or maybe recycled information with a different slant. If the information shared is of any value and may help humanity with a greater understanding and this is not within the controllers plan, Then it is just a matter of time before they are either attacked with attempts to be debunked and brought down, if that does not work then attempts will be made to influence the messenger by the controllers through infiltration to control what is being shared along with psychic attacks, psychic infections which is a form of dark magic. The list goes on.
I am generalizing here, looking at the bigger picture and am not referring to the ruiner personally. Who at this time i respect and admire his integrity and efforts.
Within my own vision of the bigger picture, Everything that is a threat to the controllers agenda will be attacked or becomes infiltrated.This has been the ongoing cycle that has been happening for thousands of years, Whether it be a star system, A planet, country, rulers of those countries, Religions, Kings, Queens, Dragon families, governments, Military, dictators, secret societies, masons, cults. Scientology, New age movement, Forums, individuals who start out with integrity and a passion to break those cycles and assist humanity, have allowed themselves to become pawns of the controllers, spreading disinformation. To many to mention but as an example, i remember many years ago a circle of friends i was involved with here in Scotland were in personal contact with Benjamin Fulford. When he shared his passion to assist humanity and his lives story with us, I cried. I believed he was the real deal back then. Since then we have had dozens more new kids on the block, who have been infiltrated and used. And most are not aware that they are being used.
I ask, How do we break this cycle of allowing humanity being controlled with man made wars, drama and disinformation and allow ourselves to take responsibility for our actions, break down the divisions that we allow and bring peace on earth? I left this comment on the ruiner's blog last week expressing a shorter version of the same.
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Well said Mr. Writer. Although i think the source of the message, The messenger and the information within the message are all important. What is most important is how one chooses to react and how one responds to the information shared.
As some chose, reacting with drama only continues one to go around and around the never ending cycle of the merry- go -round. Never moving forward. Like you said, Make a choice and "climb out" leaving the attachments of drama behind. Humanity is controlled only because we allow it to be so. End this cycle. Let humanity take responsibility, holding onto integrity, caring for each other, and not allow being controlled to be so.
Peace be with us all.
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The RuinerApril 30, 2015 at 8:00 AM
Very much agreed and thank you for sharing your thoughts here.
"Only because we allow it to be" exactly.
With respect,
With respect to all.
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TheRuiner posted on 5/3/2015 :Welcome Back
We've got a lot in motion now inside ourselves. Time to let go of things.
Now you see that all you've endured hasn't broken you. You're still here.
Things are changing all around you. In part this is your new ability to perceive the world. The mind does wonderful things when properly controlled by its soul observer. It's not just you, all life on earth is feeling something new.
It's not just earth, but let us not steer off that way for now.
All living things, to various degrees are entering a new phase in their evolution and this change can be interacted with everyday by anyone. No special membership.
For you, this matters because you will be interacting with people everyday, who have never tried to see, who begin to see. Your vibration will become a magnet for those who are searching. Be more responsible than those who you turned to in the same way.
Gently nudge, never push. Show the door, don't open it. Remember how you fell under the spell when you didn't take this responsibility for yourself.
At this point all that special information you received is shown as it truly is.. Not that special. It's everywhere. It's always been there. Now that the world has become smaller for the most part, it is so easy to find that anyone can become as well read on any given topic as most of your so called masters are. In that way the playing field is leveled.
Not unlike the progressions and compartments you've experienced, the various perspectives of history and information available to the public has made it difficult to make sense of everything. Encourage idea over belief. Be what they were not, open.
Your humble self knows that not everything you've been told is true, not everything you've seen is real, and no one is perfectly informed. This is because the details matter less than what we do with the lessons. There is no need to sort out all of this, the universe is full of different view points and in this way "as above so below" is still true. Those who gave you the special education don't know everything. Those who empower them don't know everything. Those who created them don't know everything.
Those who control us all don't know everything.
Don't focus on revenge. Leave them behind and go in the opposite direction. Don't stand still. We still have a long way to go.
Remember that looking after you, is looking after others. Looking after others, is looking after you. Everything is part of the whole and your attention causes an effect, but be conscious of the energy you give with your attention. A skill to develop: controlling where your own energy flows.
The excitement you felt as you progressed or received new clearance, is akin to the excitement anyone else feels as they break their own illusions and the defeat that they feel is akin to what you have known as well. What did you not receive?
Yes, that's right. So show compassion.
We don't have to be responsible for others we have to be responsible for ourselves as we interact with them.
You asked for this. You wanted to know. The gap between us all is closing.
So what is "the choice" you've asked? It's a series of choices. Not one.
Oh so many of the souls here have repeated patterns over various incarnations which no amount of regressive healing can't put an end to. You can heal the wound as many times as you want, but perhaps we should try avoiding wound ?
Your writer hopes that (and is attempting to himself) we can end these cycles as we ride this wave so that we can find fresh water on the other side.
Billy, I may be over analyzing your message but it sounds like you are saying that all who disagree with this messenger are sent by the controllers to destroy/corrupt/discredit the message. If this is not your intention then my apologies.
Although I agree with most of the Ruiners message I can't help question the authenticity of the messenger. It is my own free will to do so. It is a common theme here on PA to call those who question things shills or controlled disinfo agents. I've been accused here once or twice of this just for disagreeing with information that is presented. It is in my nature to question and I think too many people blindly accept everything that confirms their beliefs regardless of whether there is proof. For me, not everything is a conspiracy. The absence of proof is not proof in itself but the absence should be considered. Critical thinking and openness to multiple options is best kept until such proof can be found.
I'm open to the idea that this guy is being 100% honest. I can't help but to read between the lines. I can't help feel that it is a regurgitation of all the information that is already out there. I can't help question that there is no "meat" provided just overall general themes without any details. I can't help thinking that this guy is massaging the alternative communities ego to gain our trust, but to what end? I don't believe this is falling into the trap of negative energy cycles. This is me evaluating information, using critical thinking and intuition to decide for myself if the person and message is genuine.
With regards to Jakes comments around getting out of the system and not playing the game. I agree to a point. To truly get out of the system one would need to stop using money, not participate in government and stop watching/listening to the media among other things. While two of those three are easy enough to do, not using money is very difficult. Even if you moved to the mountains, built a cabin and tried to live off the grid there are still property taxes. So unless you save up enough money to pay your taxes till you die or just squat on some land, you will still need to participate in the money game. Completely disengaging from the system is hard and really not very productive to real change. At times I yearn to become a hermit and live completely free but this is selfish to my fellow brothers and sisters. I feel obligated to do my part in the change that needs to come. In the ideal world everyone would just stop participating en mass. Everyone in the world would stop using money, stop paying taxes, stop following unjust laws, stop listening to the media, stop watching tv, stop voting etc. Unfortunately this is not likely to happen.
So what do we do? Dennis' reset button has a plan. There has to be a stepwise approach to the change. Which means to some degree we still need to play the game while we work on changing the rules.
Perhaps instead of tar and feathering those who question things we can extend compassion to differing views and methods of discernment. Don't search for prophets but search your own soul for the answers. If it doesn't sound right then speak up. Sometimes I feel that those that question here on PA are belittled and written off as trouble makers. This reinforces complacency and silence. I will never sit idly when I think something is amiss. I will use my voice as I see fit. I was given free will and I will use it. I hope others aren't dissuaded into silence by those who don't like to be questioned.
Cheers,
Octavusprime
I have a slightly different take on 'not playing the game'..... The tough part of their game is the effect of implanted social programming which drives the defensive response when the egoic knee jerk reaction kicks in. Its deep and difficult to integrate.Quote:
Octavusprime------>With regards to Jakes comments around getting out of the system and not playing the game. I agree to a point. To truly get out of the system one would need to stop using money, not participate in government and stop watching/listening to the media among other things.
To my taste, definitely his most beautiful posting.
When I read or hear people, I very often repeat within myself that they are telling/writing whom they are and what they wish/believe in, projecting on the outer world. They answer to a complain, they tell you what they want themselves.... etc. We are projecting our wishes and learnings and who we are 98% of the time in my idea.
Same here, The Ruiner seems to be talking as much to us as to himself. Giving advice as much to us as to himself.
And it is beautiful.
Thank you The Ruiner. You have validated the cloning center information put forth by Donald Marshall and his blog for a while now, which is a bitter sweet pill for me to swallow at this stage in my "truth education." Hence, my intuition tells me what you have said here is true. I am grateful to you for not only sharing your experience with us but doing it in such a positive and sweet way; most likely you have been through some very horrific experiences yet you managed to articulate your experiences without a vengeful tone proving you have evolved and can show others it is possible to move forward and heal, thank you for that. Can you relate what the future holds for the PTB? 1. It is my understanding they have been duped by the Dracos; 2. The subterrainean (Dracos, Vrill, Trolodyte (sp?), etc) beings are wanting to continue to live here and be accepted by humans. Is this the case?
Ooops sorry Paul I forgot you were posting from The Ruiner Blog site. I will go to that site to post my reply. BTW thank you Paul!
Hello Avalon :)
Some know me by this name, some know me as "Harry", this thread knows me as "The Ruiner" and I write the blog discussed here.
My name is Shane. I live in Toronto, Canada.
I have been a member at Avalon three times now. Once on PA1. Again when it moved over here and after a hiatus, I came back again. (I had unsubscribed due to some personal complications.) At one time for a brief period I was a mod here also.
If you've read the blog, you know exactly why it began, why I write it and what my intentions are. This was all honest.
The only reason I do not attach my name is I do not want to be the focus. I have answered anyone who has ever emailed asking my name. My name truly doesn't matter and I've been honest as to why. I do not claim to be a credible whistleblower. I am not providing disclosure. I am helping some friends to whom I do not need to prove anything. It would be stupid to think I could hide from those I talk about so that is no reason. I am not looking for any spotlight here or anywhere else. There is a fairly large group of people I write the blog for, beyond that I do not care to be known.
Now, having become aware you all are reading also I still find no reason to try and prove anything and honestly admit I cannot. You are not obligated to read. Although I have appreciated all comments (both good and bad) sent to the blog, posted here or on other forums.
Now you know who I am, it's not hard to find out about me. I'm not hiding from anyone. I will not post more personal details in this thread as it would be like self promotion in some ways. If you really feel you need to know more you're welcome to PM or email me.
Hopefully this thread can now stick to allowing those who choose to read and discuss to focus on the material.
The writer is admittedly not very credible by traditional standards and is not even trying to be. This is not disclosure or anything official.
I will not be answering questions or interacting with this thread. I do not really post much and never have - this won't change.
Thank you all for your time in reading this.
Thank you to the mods of this site for their show of respect in contacting me and in how they have handled this thread.
With love and respect,
Shane - Your Writer
Thank you Shane for coming out.
I must say that you are very consistent throughout time. What you say does not change, you are just more mature now.
I have been night after night chatting with you two years ago. You were soooo patient, answering my naive questions one after the other. I thank you for this.
At the time, I could not believe that Reptilians, Dracos, the Cabal and satanism truly existed, even if I had read a lot on the topics, either with David Icke, Truman Cash, and others, and even if i had seen some things.
i was in touch with Simon Parkes, and he would tell me things about these, I would cross check with you, not telling you I was doing so, and you would tell more, which I would int turn cross check with Simon. In fact, I did not trust either one I think but wanted the truth. I was filled with fear.
I must say that you were instrumental in shattering my rosy and even not so rosy beliefs about life and helping me understand how we are seen and followed. And in hindsight, this is fine, it helped me evolve further. Simon did the other part of shattered beliefs and helped in his own ways.
I do think that we, the human race, are inviting the Cabal and all its behaviors as well as their masters by not confronting our own shadows. They are our specie's shadows, it has to be confronted, dealt with. For this, we have to confront who we are, we have to stand up.
After a few years, I am much more on my own, centered, and peaceful, even though there is still a great and long path to thread. The ride is very bumpy, in fact, it is a roller coaster.
Thank you for the patience you had with me and the help you gave, conscioulsy or not, I don't know which one.
For any detractors who may show up, I must say that you are very consistent through time.