perhaps this was a verse used to justify the killing of the Prophets and the Crucifiction of Christ
for how dare someone point out our faults
You know Red, the very arguments that you use against me could be said of you. I believe I have given ample evidence to back up what I say the bible is teaching, and you refuse to accept it because it does not go by mainstream christian teachings, and yet we know we are in the end days and the churches are not spoken of well in Revelation except for two. There are numerous passages about the apostacy of the church in the end days. Just what do you think that means if most of the churches teach these same false teachings and yet there are a few crying in the wilderness to make straight the paths, and to follow God?
Go back to the original texts. What I have said is clearly spelled out. Do you deny that the fallen angels took women and had these half breed giants with them? Satan is nothing but another fallen angel, albeit the chief one, but one none the less. The bible says he seduced Eve, she bore twins and one twin does the work of his father the devil. Why is the bible literal for you until it gets to that issue?
if i don't trust the establishment then i don't trust their science
see that is my logic
and so i look to sources that challenge the establishment
i search archaeological facts and artifacts which have not been totally censored or suppressed altogether
by the establishment for their controllers
one would think it is impossible to suppress something as big as a recent worldwide flood
but then one is not aware of the spirit deceiving high intelligence behind the controllers
we are all family and we can all trace our line back to Noah and his wife just some 4000 years ago
before the Flood there was a high tech civilisation on the earth in which The Great Pyramid of Giza is a still standing stone testimony of
we cannot compare with our antediluvian ancestors who was much bigger smarter and long-living than ourselves
and when the Watchers who was a group or order of spirits set to watch over mankind
begot children with women
then the earth became inhabitated with Giant demigods who inherited the spirit of disobediance to God
and began to genetically modify and corrupt not only animals but humans too
sounds like fiction i know but the Bible hints at this so it must be true
and if you read what i write than you know too that i do not deny this
the Bible says that the spirit of Satan in a serpent
seduced Eve to eat of the fruit of the spiritual knowledge of good and evil
and so our first parents chose to disobey a crystal clear command from God and instead obey Satan
which gave Satan a spiritual legal right to meddle in the affairs of mankind
I enjoy these deeper studies. Most do not like exegesis as it takes a lot of effort and interest to dig it out. The simple truth is there, but there are deeper truths that explain how things happened. There are deeper truths put in for the virgin bride to understand and protect the pearls of wisdom thus they won't be trodden down by swine.
who or what is this nachash which seduced Eve to eat of the fruit in Genesis 3 ?
"it is more cunning than any beast of the field which God had made" - Genesis 3
and how did God reward this nachash for tricking Eve to eat of the fruit ?
"You [are] cursed more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, And you shall eat dust All the days of your life." - Genesis 3:14
so you see this nachash is an animal
and i guess you know that Satan or the Adversary is a spirit
who can possess flesh ?
Blessings in truth,
hinting that i am an illiteral swine
while you are a true virgin bride of Christ
and you keep saying that you look to the original Hebrew text but so do i ?!
you don't even admit that you subscribe to a highly subjective interpretation of the Bible
which is not backed by the Bible
but you don't care about that
you just got it right regardless
Question for both RedeZra and Unified Serenity;
Did you ever thought about Bible as God`s words as it is?
Did you ever fathom that beside Bible there are more holy scriptures in whole world?
And finally do you both understand that WE humans apply filters of understanding of the divine when reading Bible and other works?
So you may both be right and both be wrong but Christ is one and the same always.
Be one in Christ not divided in reasoning which filter filters the best...
I gain a lot from looking at other ancient texts and prophecies. We are one whether we act like it or not. We all come from the Father. Yet, we are also called to be a separate people who live forth His truths in love with one another.
Whenever you read in Bible that God is angry and mad and wants revenge just breathe down and realize who wrote that- God or a man?
That man who wrote that God is any of the above was seeing some things happening through his own lower understanding.
He saw a cataclysm and described it as God`s wrath when in fact any cataclysm upon Earth was and is caused by MAN.
It`s a law of cause and effect.
Christ explained that and confirmed that too.
He was teaching us to remember that even in our thoughts we are powerful and that we create.
Good or bad effect - we create it.
So whatever man wants to impose upon God simply doesn`t work. For God is God and man is man.
Does God needs sacrifices or rituals or rules ???
Man needs that in his low conscience and energy of fear.
And God allows that because of free will so we can learn that WE cause things to happen for we were given that gift and such power.
All ancient texts upon the face of the Earth are carrying same messages slightly changed though human filter.
Why do you think people flocked to Christ?
Because they sensed and saw him as he truly is - Son of God .
Christ didn`t need to elaborate scriptures - he showed the power and also true words BUT religions and pharisees thrown in their own stuff...
One common denominator for religions is that they HAVE to use FORCE to bind people together to them- it`s just plain seen that they are not aligned with God at all. They say but they aren`t.
Reasoning about who is right and who is wrong about religious texts is futile for again it`s a quarrel about who `s filter filters the best?
When you are in Christ you don`t need filter.
I`m not saying you are wrong and that Red is wrong I`m saying that you are right and he is too!
It`s just that I would not like to see you two quarreling about words and texts when you have Christ whom you can attune to.
Leave pharisees tricks to themselves and their own.
which i believe is an inspired work
and therefore important
not only historically but also prophetically
so i welcome any and all views about the contents of this Book
and i have no problems with debates or disagreements
this is a thread about the Bible so let the Book speak
and when interpretations differ then let us debate
with honest intent and integrity
because the Bible is too important to ignore
in a world lost not for words but wisdom
for if the Bible is true then this is need to know for our souls
and you know that as well
nobody wants to hear about Heaven and Hell
and nobody likes the God of the Bible
but it's the only God we got
Hardly many people ever read it at all, or they read bits and pieces and dare to drag it through mire.
Sadly also there ones who read it but allow religions to interpretate for them without second thought.
And there ones who are adamantly against it for they think it`s a lie .
I used to have similar thread on AV1 and it was a bombshell as this one is.
I say again that many things were not understood by people who wrote it and what became the Bible.
But they wrote according to what they could grasp.
Imagine poor Ezekiel seeing God`s tech or Isaiah too or any others...and more surprise when they saw Christ doing all wonderful stuff without tech at all for he IS the power...
God is the power and Christ is too...
But it`s fascinating to see that we are ready to fight about written word.
It`s more constructive to reason without accusations which were present here on the thread.
Honestly Red you weren`t offensive as some posters were against you or anyone who agrees about what you write but thread changed into a better focused discussion and that is making me feel happy for I see human spirit of tolerance and Love actually.
That said, people here - I bless you on your search for truth but when you find it it will set you free!
then we can close the Books
because God will impress visions upon our minds and speak wisdoms in our hearts
and i mean that in a literal sense
the Bible is a pointer to God and a signpost
and so it is important for those on the road
for those that have come home
the signpost is not important at all
Don't act like just because I said it, it has invalidated it; it is your fantasy story, not mine; if you live your life by it, it is true whoever says it.
Tu quoque, RedeZra, tu quoque; "how dare someone point out our faults". That is exactly why you reacted to it the way you did. Heaven forbid anybody point out your faults while you go around calling down brimstone on us 'unbelievers' — or, in US's case, somebody who fails to conform to your narrow interpretation of the Bible.
and my interpretation is not narrow at all but pretty mainstream
and of course if you are in a relationship with God then you don't need Books to tell you about it
you live it and you teach it
How can you live according the God's ways when the you are taught men's ways in church? Sure the heart is willing, but the mind is educated in man's system, and you said it, not I but you are mainstream and mainstream is exactly where the sleeping virgins are.
Enjoy your night.