Sam please do us all a favour take your comments elsewhere and leave this thread alone
I bet you're on it hehe
I know you shouldn't stereo type people but look where he is from. Stereo typing happens for a reason ;)
I was the first on the list!:first: I feel so honoured. :becky:
If Jim has the resources, why not do a double blind study?
There is a fantastic article here as well about the placebo effect, and how it CHANGES things within the body at a biochemical level.
"In recent decades reports have confirmed the efficacy of various sham treatments in nearly all areas of medicine. Placebos have helped alleviate pain, depression, anxiety, Parkinson’s disease, inflammatory disorders and even cancer.
Placebo effects can arise not only from a conscious belief in a drug but also from subconscious associations between recovery and the experience of being treated—from the pinch of a shot to a doctor’s white coat. Such subliminal conditioning can control bodily processes of which we are unaware, such as immune responses and the release of hormones."
People underestimate how POWERFUL the mind truly is.(Mind over matter.) Seems they are stuck in a mechanistic world where they think consciousness can have no effect on the biochemistry of your body.....read the above article for testable, repeatable proof that states otherwise.
Sorry didn't realize most of the article is behind pay subscription. Read more of it posted here:
THERE IS SOME HYPOCRACY GOING ON HERE SAM PUT UP A VIDEO ABOUT A RIDE...LOVE OR FEAR......all sam has done is to promote negtivism AND DOUBT, ..he needs a bigger forum for his "ignore list"......he has denigrated Dr deagle, and JIM HUMBLE ..WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY UNDERMINE BILL RYAN AND NO-ONE DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT.............where is this forum going?why let all this skepticism take hold..it is negative.........LOVE OR FEAR.......i WONDER HOW BIG THAT IGNORE LIST IS!!!!
talking about hypocrisy and mockery:
was it not yourself who started that "samgate..." thread (in a very, very bad taste) which got closed for that reason alone - bad taste: throwing scorn at others and mockery...so much for hypocrisy, but let's not talk about it any more :blink:.. really, it is not worth a mention as morguana made a very good decision.
i would like to know: how come you got conned/ripped off as many times as you did in your distant and recent past? how come? given that you know and can see through as much?
i am most sincere about this question - would really like to know, so it does not happen to me...what devil makes you fall for things faux?:unsure:
I think we should avoid polarity and ego issues. We can only choose what we do, not what others do. Hopefully, by not falling into these games others won't as well, because of either boredom or genuine change.
Please be aware of your data before making posts to denigrate another.
2) Anyone who claims that MMS works using the placebo effect is also betraying their own unawareness of the facts.
Please read my earlier post referencing the woman, whom I know personally, whose eyes straightened out and who was able to focus and control them for the first time in nearly 40 years.
She was only trying to treat a mild cold or flu, and took a few drops of MMS for a few days. The miracle that occurred was something else entirely, and was completely unexpected by herself and everyone else.
No snake oil... and no placebo effect either.
Something entirely different was happening. No-one I know understands what it was, but any observer of this should be a good scientist, gather data, and then generate models that might explain the biochemistry involved.
Nothing less than that will increase our understanding. Calling it a placebo effect is effectively a cheap smear, whether this was intended or not.
When I use the word 'cheap' here I'm pointing out that knocking something you (and I) don't understand is easy to do using a dismissive generality. It's actually a form of intellectual laziness.
Being truly honest about the entire problem is much harder and more demanding. The significant benefits - and apparent miracles - that have been attributed to MMS in hundreds of thousands of cases are not imagined or illusory. They are real.
therefore HIS DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTICS ARE NOT WORKING WITH ME , AND HE HAS MESSED UP QUITE A FEW threads with his so called skeptic view.......the battle ahead is between light and darkness......the more confusion sam can create in people THE MORE FEAR HE CREATES AND I WILL NOT STAND BY AND SEE HIM DO THAT TO DECENT PEOPLE...this confusion and fear tactic is an old one...Bill Ryan has spent a long time on the 2 videos by dr deagle and jim humble.......why would he do that?