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  1. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    I found this on Project Camelot's website ...

    LETTER FROM DUTCH CITIZEN RE BODIES FROM FLT MH17

    I have to say I had a similar 'feeling' a couple of days ago. Not so much that I thought it was...
  2. Re: MARKET CRASH DATE 'PREDICTED' - In line with Christine Legarde's (Luck 7s)..?

    it was on the 17th ...
  3. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Main question is: are there sides or is it all one and the same ?

    I referred to this in this post:



    Perestroika deception ... the book or more on what it is about.

    Strangely enough Rick...
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    Well, I think the video is confusing too. But the idea is food for thought.
    In fact it would make sense that if a bomb was used the (extensive?) preparations were done
    on another similar plane in...
  5. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Yep, you're right ... thanks for reminding me. ;)[/QUOTE]

    I had some time now to think about this ... one remark and one question:

    - The plane is 'expected' to be at 33000 feet. Black box data...
  6. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Yep, you're right ... thanks for reminding me. ;)
  7. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Here are some extensive articles that suggest that mh17 was shot down by a 30 mm canon which is fitted on the SU-25's.
    ...
  8. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    So I suppose that Kerry assumes responsibility for the death toll in Syria because they arm
    the rebels there and for the Palestinian victims because the US supports arming Israel ?

    How naive can...
  9. Re: International reply to Ukraine total failure. Graphic but needed! VT article....

    This is what happens if cronies in politics who think they are above the law start
    their own private armies ... they think there is no applicable law left, esp. in war.
  10. Re: International reply to Ukraine total failure. Graphic but needed! VT article....

    Well, minister Timmermans you have graceful and emotional words too for those war victims?

    We DO have some power too ... last weeks I've been watching quite some movies and I was
    actually...
  11. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Thanks for your analysis ...
    But keep in mind that none of the three separate elements have been proven yet.
    Maybe the BUK accusations were only made up to blame the 'other' party, there are no...
  12. Re: Are you sitting down? U.S. Accuses Russia of Violating 1987 Nuclear Missile Treaty

    Well it seems that the US/west/NATO is interpreting the rules as they deem fit themselves:

    Enlarging NATO, Expanding Confusion
  13. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    "Wars and rumors of wars ... "

    See also my post here about war with socialistic Venezuela.

    So if I understand correctly there was a workable peaceful way of investigating the crash site,
    now...
  14. Re: Timmerman's UN Speech based upon Provable Lies! Mainstream Media LIES!

    Die link brengt je uiteindelijk steeds op de homepage ... ?
  15. Re: Timmerman's UN Speech based upon Provable Lies! Mainstream Media LIES!

    More war news involving minister Timmermans but on a totally other war front ... the Dutch Caribbean !! :laser:

    http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/22906926/__Aruba_ontsnapt_aan_inval__.html...
  16. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Well I think it is very well likely that there is a multi faceted scenario at play here.
    To begin with, you need a patsy when performing a false flag op. It crossed my
    mind that the Su-25 jets may...
  17. Re: Timmerman's UN Speech based upon Provable Lies! Mainstream Media LIES!

    Yeah well, see my post here.

    I've read some of the toe-curling (Dutch) news and public reactions. Frankly I had to stop because
    the propaganda of all parties taking advantage out of this crisis...
  18. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Since there are also a few Dutch members participating in this thread and I did
    not focus that very much on Dutch news I have a question to you all:

    Did somebody catch the reason or an...
  19. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    If the bomb was brought on board by the guys in suits then there will never be clues found to indicate this.
    The investigation is lead by the Dutch, that's where the plane left. They could have...
  20. Re: Malaysian Plane MH17 shot down with over 295 on board. But by who?

    Timmermans is 'only' foreign affairs minister ... so instead of messing up the Netherlands they
    gave him the rest of the world to 'play' in.

    I don't like him ... wittingly or not but he seems to...
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